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John

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Jan 5, 2010, 10:32:38 AM1/5/10
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I brought this up in a previous post. Beltre part of a package deal that
brings Holliday to Boston. Holliday is still waiting even though all
reports have him staying with the Cardinals. Probably so. Is Holliday the
big bat? He could play LF with Cameron as the 4th outfielder. Cameron would
be the primary option when Drew does not play (which is often). Hermida
then could be packaged in a deal to bolster the bullpen.

Cameron would not like this but remember when the Yankees had no interest in
Texeira because they had signed Swisher? Cameron will get his at bats. I
know it's alot of money and puts the Sox over the luxury tax threshold. From
earlier posts alot comes off the books after next year .

As I indicated I was just thinking out loud.


Wayback1918

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Jan 5, 2010, 10:38:37 AM1/5/10
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There is 'no' big bat coming.....not Holliday...not Gonzalez....not
Cabrera.

This is the team unless some kind of major injury happens to a
starter.

Dano

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Jan 5, 2010, 11:26:46 AM1/5/10
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"Wayback1918" <wayba...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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You may be right, but I learned a while ago (2004 put the exclamation point
on it) that you never, ever say never! I lean toward agreeing with
you...however...there is always a (perhaps slim) chance that now, dealing
from a position of strength, unless someone steps forward for Holliday with
a huge deal, that something could be done with Boras.

I DO think if that were to happen...other deals would almost have be part of
the plan. I actually like this team. But all the pieces are still there to
make any number of trades as well. I think it's fair to say they won't be
adding a ton of payroll without moving some. When everyone gets paid...like
Papelbon, who is in line for a generous bump in salary, they are already
looking at breaking into the lux tax bracket. So remember that any contract
given Holliday (or anyone else) is automatically that much more costly.


O'Neil's Faggy Prostate - PIVOT, BARRY, PIVOT!!!

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Jan 5, 2010, 12:44:27 PM1/5/10
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^^^ This.

SDGon will be coming at the trading deadline - if at all.

STAY AWAY FROM HOLLIDAY!!!

:D

Giovanni Wassen

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Jan 5, 2010, 12:48:23 PM1/5/10
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John wrote:

> I brought this up in a previous post. Beltre part of a package deal
> that brings Holliday to Boston.

Surely people told you already Holliday is a free agent?

> As I indicated I was just thinking out loud.

Start over.

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Gio

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Orwell

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Jan 5, 2010, 4:41:06 PM1/5/10
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On Jan 5, 10:32 am, "John" <johnswi...@charter.net> wrote:

I'm pretty sure you can't trade a FA signee that quickly.

Mortimer

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Jan 5, 2010, 5:04:16 PM1/5/10
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On Jan 5, 12:48 pm, Giovanni Wassen <exta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Surely people told you already Holliday is a free agent?
>
> > As I indicated I was just thinking out loud.
>
> Start over.

He could off meant it in the context of a sign-and-trade type deal, as
in the Cardinals sign Matt to a 7 or 8 year deal over $100 million,
and then they trade him over too the Red Sox(or another team) for
Beltre and a PTBNL. It's not a popular thing to do in MLB, and you
probably can't trade a new FA signee that quickly (as Orwell pointed
out). Is that even allowed in the MLB collective bargaining agreement
(?)...beats the hell out of me!
But it's quite popular in the NBA(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Sign_and_trade)

mario in victoria

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Jan 5, 2010, 5:25:16 PM1/5/10
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I don't think you can trade a FA signee until mid-June, *without* his
permission.

On the other hand, in the above scenario, having been traded during a
contract, Holliday could demand (and get) a trade the following year.

It's dicey.

mario in victoria
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and unlikely

nate

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Jan 5, 2010, 5:28:07 PM1/5/10
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On Jan 5, 10:32 am, "John" <johnswi...@charter.net> wrote:
> Holliday is still waiting even though all
> reports have him staying with the Cardinals.

if Holliday is going anywhere, he's going to the Janks.


- nate

Dano

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Jan 6, 2010, 12:05:49 AM1/6/10
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So much for your powers of prognostication Nate.


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nate

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Jan 6, 2010, 12:37:10 PM1/6/10
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it was another attempt to appease the WOOFing Gods that has apparently
succeeded.
that was a mighty big IF it turned out.


- nate

nice guy

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Jan 6, 2010, 10:09:51 PM1/6/10
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Don't be too quick to deal Hermida. Several years ago I posted a note in
this group predicting Jeremy being a future star. He was never appreciated
in Miami and never developed. In Boston he may be better stimulated. He may
very well push Drew out.


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