Let's say someone spit in your face.
Joseph Fuller
game and someone spit in your face. Then someone nails you in the back of
your head with battery. Later somone pours beer on your girlfriend. To cap
it all off, someone throws a cup of beer on you. Then somone asks you of
your opinion of Omaha.......Everyone knows that NY is the hardest place to
play any sport. Why? Is it the weather? The facilities? Are the teams just
that intimidating? Or is it the character of the fans who represent the
people of New York?
mwt
Rocker may be perfectly justified in not having a fondness for New
York considering his experiences there (although I think it's a
wonderful place), but the comments at issue are the ones that could
include a large number of people outside of the Big Apple. Although I
realize that Rocker's comments were not very well thought out (to say
the least) and that he has been forgiven by Hank Aaron and Andrew
Young (which makes me more inclined to believe that he is genuinely
sorry for his comments), I do have to wonder one thing:
Has the guy been to Atlanta lately?
While the international population in New York is still considerably
higher than that of Atlanta, the gay/lesbian population is probably
higher in proportion to population, and the demographic of young,
unwed mothers is almost certainly higher (the rate of teen pregnancy
in Georgia and the Atlanta area is one of the highest in the country).
IIRC he actually resides in his hometown of Macon (might be wrong),
but I tend to believe that he would have spent enough time in Atlanta
by now to have noticed these things.
elisabeth kreyder
New-Yorkers are thinking, but are too afraid to say.
I know, it's not politically correct, but unfortunately, it's a fact.
I don't agree with him, I think he's a young jerk with extenuating
circumstances!
I like him because he's a good pitcher reliever .
I'm French, excuse-me for english.
Elisabeth
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"elisabeth kreyder" <ekre...@planetis.net> wrote:
> It seems there's lot hypocrisy about John Rocker, he's saying what a
> I'm French, excuse-me for english.
I'm guessing, then, Elizabeth, that your ancestors
were royalists up to the very moment that their
elitist heads were severed from their well fed bodies,
and that you share in their elitism, right?
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timan...@mindspring.com
<antipos...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:85q5bi$sd2> I'm
guessing, then, Elizabeth, that your ancestors
> were royalists up to the very moment that their
> elitist heads were severed from their well fed bodies,
> and that you share in their elitism, right?
And would it be safe to assume that your ancestors kept sending more and
more people to the guillotine in their self-righteous zeal to rid society of
the well-fed?
Walter Jowers
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> In article <85pg9c$17b$1...@jaydee.iway.fr>,
> "elisabeth kreyder" <ekre...@planetis.net> wrote:
> > It seems there's lot hypocrisy about John Rocker, he's saying what a
>
> > I'm French, excuse-me for english.
>
> were royalists up to the very moment that their
> elitist heads were severed from their well fed bodies,
> and that you share in their elitism, right?
First, she's Elisabeth. Reading is fundamental.
And weren't you just chiding me for making personal insults when I said your
logic was faulty and that you were posting bullshit?
Now you're insulting a woman *and* her ancestors, *and* posting bullshit.
All because you can't give up your hobby of whining about something John
Rocker said.
David Marc Nieporent
Joseph Fuller <jodyf...@mindspring.com> claimed:
>Let's say you went to Omaha, Nebraska. Now let's say you were at Cornhusker
>game and someone spit in your face. Then someone nails you in the back of
>your head with battery. Later somone pours beer on your girlfriend. To cap
>it all off, someone throws a cup of beer on you. Then somone asks you of
>your opinion of Omaha.......
Would people stop these bullshit responses? Rocker did not get in trouble
for saying bad things about New York. He insulted various racial and
ethnic groups, and gays. None of that had anything to do with New York.
None of that had anything to do with people cursing at him at games.
Somehow I suspect that if you look at the demographics of Shea fans,
you're not going to see a lot of welfare mothers, criminals, foreigners,
or "queers with AIDS."
>Everyone knows that NY is the hardest place to
>play any sport. Why?
Who says it is?
>Is it the weather? The facilities? Are the teams just
>that intimidating? Or is it the character of the fans who represent the
>people of New York?
He didn't rant about straight white males.
--
David M. Nieporent "Cases won in 30 minutes
niep...@alumni.princeton.edu or your pizza's free."
3L - St. John's School of Law -- L.Hutz
Roberto Petagine Appreciation Society
Cali Kid
>
> >Let's say you went to Omaha, Nebraska. Now let's say you were at
Cornhusker
> >game and someone spit in your face. Then someone nails you in the back of
> >your head with battery. Later somone pours beer on your girlfriend. To
cap
> >it all off, someone throws a cup of beer on you. Then somone asks you of
> >your opinion of Omaha.......
Well Joe, I think the answer to this one is obvious. You talk about the
dudes or dudettes that committed the transgressions rather than take a wide
swipe at others with a big paint brush.
One other point for comparison....Henry Aaron went through a reign of terror
as he closed in on the Babe's record. Hate mail, death threats, racial
epithets every here he went, people throwing things at him, having police
assigned to him and his family. While he said he wished it would stop, I
thought he handled it pretty well. And no, I don't think he would have
been justified in labeling everyone with the same brush.
Rocker could learn something from Henry in this regards.
Reggie
Joseph Fuller
Hank handled it very well. Rocker's harassment was nothing compared to
Hank's. However, Hank was in his middle to late 30's at the time- and very
mature-not a young, fiery 25 year old. Look at the Viking's Chris
Carter---when he was in his early 20's---man he was garbage---today he is
one of the most respected guys in the league. He's had a major influence on
Randy Moss.
Cali Kid
"Joseph Fuller" <jodyf...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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>
> Hank handled it very well. Rocker's harassment was nothing compared to
> Hank's. However, Hank was in his middle to late 30's at the time- and very
> mature-not a young, fiery 25 year old.
I'll concede that point; however, Hank had quite a bit of experience with
racism at an early age and became quite adept at dealing with it
appropriately. I will take your side on this one, though being fiery does
not excuse his behaivor, and I know you are not excusing it.
Look at the Viking's Chris
> Carter---when he was in his early 20's---man he was garbage---today he is
> one of the most respected guys in the league. He's had a major influence
on
> Randy Moss.
At the risk of getting my britches torched, I have absolutely no use for
Chris Carter. I think he has become an angry young man. In some ways, he
has resorted back to his old ways, IMHO.
>
antipos...@my-deja.com
<timan...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> <antipos...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:85q5bi$sd2> I'm
> guessing, then, Elizabeth, that your ancestors
> > were royalists up to the very moment that their
> > elitist heads were severed from their well fed bodies,
> > and that you share in their elitism, right?
>
and
> more people to the guillotine in their self-righteous zeal to rid
society of
> the well-fed?
Yes, I can only hope that my ancestors were good
militants. :->
AP2
elisabeth kreyder
Walter Jowers <walter...@nashville.com> a écrit dans le message :
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> <antipos...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> news:85q5bi$sd2$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> > In article <85pg9c$17b$1...@jaydee.iway.fr>,
> > "elisabeth kreyder" <ekre...@planetis.net> wrote:
> > > It seems there's lot hypocrisy about John Rocker, he's saying what a
> >
> > > I'm French, excuse-me for english.
> >
> > were royalists up to the very moment that their
> > elitist heads were severed from their well fed bodies,
> > and that you share in their elitism, right?
>