Desperate times call for desperate measures, so Braves right fielder Jeff
Francoeur said he'll wear the same underwear to Turner Field Tuesday that he
wore on Sunday. He claimed the Braves are 7-0 when he wears his
Thanksgiving-themed "turkey underwear" to the ballpark.
For a team that has a disappointing 35-40 overall record, that 7-0 mark is
no small feat. The Braves open a three-game series against NL East leader
Philadelphia on Tuesday.
Francoeur said he had not worn the turkey briefs for back-to-back games all
season, but will Tuesday (the Braves were off Monday, and he planned to ask
his wife, Catie, to wash the underwear).
Note that the article doesn't say that Francoeur plays better in the gobbler
skivvies, only that the team does. Given his performance (.248/.283/.347),
maybe the Braves would be better off by simply keeping the underwear around
and ditching Francoeur. At least the underwear seems to ad some sort of
value.
I hate Jaff francoeur.
Colin
Here's a problem: Casey Kotchman isn't much better.
s/
I can hate him too, if necessary.
Colin
It's about time you came out of the closet!
You 'hate" a baseball player for playing badly? Get a fucking life.
Just another silly superstition story from an athlete.
I hate you, too.
Colin
At last, you're being logical.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
--
zig zigalo
...it was just weird rooting so feverishly for the Braves.
(jason- mets fan extraordinaire coming to terms with his "inner braves fan")
> Colin William wrote:
> > Lookout wrote:
> >>> I hate Jaff francoeur.
> >>
> >> You 'hate" a baseball player for playing badly? Get a fucking life.
> >
> > I hate you, too.
> >
> post of the month
June or July? It's still a bit early to be giving out the POTM for
July, but I can agree about June.
dick
-- unless of course Lookout had a POTM candidate somewhere in there that
I didn't see.
Where's the tolerance for diversity of opinion? Where is the love for
your fellow man? Hate is not a family value. This is not very open-
minded Colin.
Shining the Light,
Marty Winn
you know what's coming now, don't you, Marty?
--
Ben
Is he the same idiot who needed a player to fawn over and he once had
Maddox and now it was going to be Hanson?
Bandwagoneering at best.
s/
No, but I guess I should have. I thought I was defending him while
teasing Colin. I've learned a couple of times in the last 24 hours
that no good dead goes unpunished.
Ben, Just to be sure is what I got, what you saw coming or something
else.
I was out of town for the weekend and thus missed this exchange. it
seems a little late to chime in now with the obvious retort :-)
Colin
I guess I'm an idiot. I wasn't sure if I should have expected what I
got from lookout or some random barb back from you. It's not too late
as far as I am concerned, I'm picking up on Monday what I dropped on
Thursday too. Let me have it.
Seeking the Light,
Marty Winn
I probably would have gone with "I hate you too"
Colin
I'm so stupid. But you never would have said that to me right?
Doesn't sound like the God you've espoused.
I'm pretty sure that Marty has never claimed to actually *be* God.
s/
Of course not, I was kidding. But theologically speaking punishment
for doing right would only come from man, not God, and that is a very
small thing to me. So yeah, anyone can get punished for doing nice
things (not that what I was doing was pure as the wind-driven snow),
but it's a fallen world, it comes with the territory. One can not
expect righteous judgment here on Earth. Christ has already received
the punishment for his chosen, there is no condemnation for them.
I love it when you defend me Sam. Really, I appreciate it. Think I'm
a whack-job if you must, but I appreciate you defending me.
Oh, if I thought it could get a laugh, I'd have said it :-)
Colin
>On Jul 6, 8:05�pm, Tarkus <karnev...@atlantabraves.net> wrote:
>> Marty Winn wrote:
>> > No, but I guess I should have. �I thought I was defending him while
>> > teasing Colin. �I've learned a couple of times in the last 24 hours
>> > that no good dead goes unpunished.
>>
>> Doesn't sound like the God you've espoused.
>
>Of course not, I was kidding. But theologically speaking punishment
>for doing right would only come from man, not God,
Huh? You're certainly not talking about the vengeful christian god.
>and that is a very
>small thing to me. So yeah, anyone can get punished for doing nice
>things (not that what I was doing was pure as the wind-driven snow),
>but it's a fallen world, it comes with the territory. One can not
>expect righteous judgment here on Earth. Christ has already received
>the punishment for his chosen, there is no condemnation for them.
>
>Shining the Light,
>Marty Winn
And still no proof of god. Why would you believe in a fairy tale?
If you can't successfully spell Maddux or Glavine it's a wonder you
can manage to nominally work a computer and a curiosity how you manage
to keep turning up here. I'm not sure I follow the logic of how me
picking a favorite player to follow is inferior to your decision to
troll newsgroups for fun.
I'm speaking of the righteous creator of the Earth who has for a time
allowed the wheat and tares to grow together. But His patience will
not last forever. Flee the wrath to come. Who did you suspect I was
talking about?
> >and that is a very
> >small thing to me. So yeah, anyone can get punished for doing nice
> >things (not that what I was doing was pure as the wind-driven snow),
> >but it's a fallen world, it comes with the territory. One can not
> >expect righteous judgment here on Earth. Christ has already received
> >the punishment for his chosen, there is no condemnation for them.
>
> >Shining the Light,
> >Marty Winn
>
> And still no proof of god. Why would you believe in a fairy tale?
Matter can neither be created nor destroyed. Everything tends towards
disorder, not order. Life can not come from no-life. The creator of
the world and life itself is God. To say there is no proof is just
willful ignorance. Evidence shows that to be par for the course for
you so far (I hope against hope that will change).
You on the other hand are much harder to prove. You appear only as a
series of characters on a newsgroup, a light mist at best,
indistinguishable from a bad dream. From dust you came and from dust
you will return, soon forgotten. Who will even bother to ask if there
really was a lookout?
Guess the joke about that last line went over your head.
I guess I must have, I wrote this response several times and almost
trashed it altogether as I was unable to parse it fully. I concluded
that I was being accused of thinking I was God and thus the
distributor of punishment. Sam stepped in and said in essence while
Marty might make all sorts of wild claims he does not go so far as to
actually claim to be God.
It's embarassing to have to have a joke explained to me (that's 2 in
one week for me, need to get more sleep) but I can live with never
fully understanding this one if necessary. Hope it's just some movie
reference I don't know rather than something more basic than that.
The operative word is "dead".
The spelling isn't important to me because I'm not a FANATIC. I'm
simply a fan. But we know you had to find something to whine about and
you're trolling for attention so the best you could do is find a
spelling error.
You don't pick a player...you have a 11 year old's infatuation with an
athlete. It's really childish for an adult to get so wrapped up in
another person.
>On Jul 7, 10:03 am, Lookout <mrLook...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 21:18:42 -0700 (PDT),Marty Winn
>>
>> <marty.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Jul 6, 8:05 pm, Tarkus <karnev...@atlantabraves.net> wrote:
>> >>Marty Winnwrote:
>> >> > No, but I guess I should have. I thought I was defending him while
>> >> > teasing Colin. I've learned a couple of times in the last 24 hours
>> >> > that no good dead goes unpunished.
>>
>> >> Doesn't sound like the God you've espoused.
>>
>> >Of course not, I was kidding. But theologically speaking punishment
>> >for doing right would only come from man, not God,
>>
>> Huh? You're certainly not talking about the vengeful christian god.
>
>I'm speaking of the righteous creator of the Earth who has for a time
>allowed the wheat and tares to grow together. But His patience will
>not last forever. Flee the wrath to come. Who did you suspect I was
>talking about?
Ohh..you mean your fairy tale? AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH Ya...like I'm gonna
take that seriously. Hell..most of the world thinks you're fucking
nuts.
>> >and that is a very
>> >small thing to me. So yeah, anyone can get punished for doing nice
>> >things (not that what I was doing was pure as the wind-driven snow),
>> >but it's a fallen world, it comes with the territory. One can not
>> >expect righteous judgment here on Earth. Christ has already received
>> >the punishment for his chosen, there is no condemnation for them.
>>
>> >Shining the Light,
>> >Marty Winn
>>
>> And still no proof of god. Why would you believe in a fairy tale?
>
>Matter can neither be created nor destroyed. Everything tends towards
>disorder, not order. Life can not come from no-life. The creator of
>the world and life itself is God. To say there is no proof is just
>willful ignorance. Evidence shows that to be par for the course for
>you so far (I hope against hope that will change).
Where's the proof? Most of the world agrees with me when I say you're
god is part of a fairy tale. YOU are in the minority.
>You on the other hand are much harder to prove. You appear only as a
>series of characters on a newsgroup, a light mist at best,
>indistinguishable from a bad dream. From dust you came and from dust
>you will return, soon forgotten. Who will even bother to ask if there
>really was a lookout?
>
>Shining the Light,
>Marty Winn
Yet you respond to me so I guess I'm real. If you're still doubting
that then you need to question your sanity.
I now see I misspelled deed, still don't get the joke.
I find it easy to believe you are the type of person who believes
truth is determined by majority vote. Of course forget hoping that
you would deal with the substance of my arguments. Long before God
becomes a farcical idea one must deal with the origins or life and
matter.
> >> >and that is a very
> >> >small thing to me. So yeah, anyone can get punished for doing nice
> >> >things (not that what I was doing was pure as the wind-driven snow),
> >> >but it's a fallen world, it comes with the territory. One can not
> >> >expect righteous judgment here on Earth. Christ has already received
> >> >the punishment for his chosen, there is no condemnation for them.
>
> >> >Shining the Light,
> >> >Marty Winn
>
> >> And still no proof of god. Why would you believe in a fairy tale?
>
> >Matter can neither be created nor destroyed. Everything tends towards
> >disorder, not order. Life can not come from no-life. The creator of
> >the world and life itself is God. To say there is no proof is just
> >willful ignorance. Evidence shows that to be par for the course for
> >you so far (I hope against hope that will change).
>
> Where's the proof? Most of the world agrees with me when I say you're
> god is part of a fairy tale. YOU are in the minority.
Again being in the minority is often the correct and true stance to
take. I suspect that not understanding this is a majority opinion,
just the place for you. I'm not at all sure the burden of proof falls
on me here. I say God made everything, you say that everything cam
from nothing, life came from no life, and design happened without a
designer. I think you have the tenuous position. FWIW you're = you
are.
> >You on the other hand are much harder to prove. You appear only as a
> >series of characters on a newsgroup, a light mist at best,
> >indistinguishable from a bad dream. From dust you came and from dust
> >you will return, soon forgotten. Who will even bother to ask if there
> >really was a lookout?
>
> >Shining the Light,
> >Marty Winn
>
> Yet you respond to me so I guess I'm real. If you're still doubting
> that then you need to question your sanity.
I did not say you don't exist. I said that the evidence of your
existence is much weaker than the evidence of God's existence. To put
it in an argument you would understand. More people believe in the
existence of God than believe in you. You are in the minority.
Some spelling errors are understandable. Our soon to be X right
fielder, the former Brave first baseman with cancer, the Twins 1B.
These are hard names. Andy Pettitte is another. I'm a horrible
speller myself. If I don't look it up I'm going to mess up double
letter spellings often. But some things are so basic that they
clearly either manifest a child at the keyboard or a troll. Cal
Ripkin, Greg Maddox, Roger Clemons, Tom Glavin. These types of errors
are not based in hurry or forgetfulness. They are based in ignorance
or immaturity. Tell me you are 14 or just learned English and I
understand. Otherwise you are clearly a troll.
Also It's mind-numbingly obvious that fan is short for fanatic. It's
like saying you have lots of RAM but no Random Access Memory, you are
a fan of the Nats but not the Nationals, you're a homo but not a
homosexual. They mean the same thing, they are the same thing.
I suspect that others would finger you as the troll. I strongly
suspect a clear majority would say so.
I'm not sure if you are arguing that (1) it is wrong to show more
interest in one player than any other player on a team (because that's
immature) or (2) if you are arguing, yeah you can do that but not so
much you have become too fanatical, or (3) if you are arguing that you
can't even care about players it must be the team, the laundry. Not
that any of these arguments make sense to me. Stirring up trouble on
a newsgroup featuring a subject you know precious little about is much
more mature.
I believe it's a rare fan that does not have a favorite player, if you
want to argue 95% of sports fans are immature, okay. Obviously if you
have a favorite tennis player, golfer, race car driver, biker you fall
in the same category. "I just like to watch them play, I don't care
who wins." Personally, I like to watch excellence and I have limited
time so I specialize my time, increase the like-hood I will see
something great. I watched Clemens, Pedro, Randy, and Maddux as often
as possible. I wouldn't turn the dial if Bonds or Pujols was up to
the plate because it's an opportunity to see something extraordinary.
I've been blessed to follow Maddux and Marino and to a lesser extent
Murphy, Dominique Wilkens, and Niekro. I hope to catch lightning in a
bottle again and get to see excellence on my team. It might be Tommy
Hanson who can do it. If hoping this is immaturity then I am guilty.
Either way you are a troll.
Nah..I never said a vote matters. I simply said most of the world
thinks you christians are nuts. That's a fact.
>> >> >and that is a very
>> >> >small thing to me. So yeah, anyone can get punished for doing nice
>> >> >things (not that what I was doing was pure as the wind-driven snow),
>> >> >but it's a fallen world, it comes with the territory. One can not
>> >> >expect righteous judgment here on Earth. Christ has already received
>> >> >the punishment for his chosen, there is no condemnation for them.
>>
>> >> >Shining the Light,
>> >> >Marty Winn
>>
>> >> And still no proof of god. Why would you believe in a fairy tale?
>>
>> >Matter can neither be created nor destroyed. Everything tends towards
>> >disorder, not order. Life can not come from no-life. The creator of
>> >the world and life itself is God. To say there is no proof is just
>> >willful ignorance. Evidence shows that to be par for the course for
>> >you so far (I hope against hope that will change).
>>
>> Where's the proof? Most of the world agrees with me when I say you're
>> god is part of a fairy tale. YOU are in the minority.
>
>Again being in the minority is often the correct and true stance to
>take.
What an asinine statement. Just how stupid are you to believe that
when most are against you you are right?
>I suspect that not understanding this is a majority opinion,
>just the place for you. I'm not at all sure the burden of proof falls
>on me here. I say God made everything, you say that everything cam
>from nothing, life came from no life, and design happened without a
>designer. I think you have the tenuous position. FWIW you're = you
>are.
Nope. You're lying again. Why do you lie so often? I never said any of
that.
Why do you lie?
>> >You on the other hand are much harder to prove. You appear only as a
>> >series of characters on a newsgroup, a light mist at best,
>> >indistinguishable from a bad dream. From dust you came and from dust
>> >you will return, soon forgotten. Who will even bother to ask if there
>> >really was a lookout?
>>
>> >Shining the Light,
>> >Marty Winn
>>
>> Yet you respond to me so I guess I'm real. If you're still doubting
>> that then you need to question your sanity.
>
>I did not say you don't exist. I said that the evidence of your
>existence is much weaker than the evidence of God's existence.
Prove it.
>To put
>it in an argument you would understand. More people believe in the
>existence of God than believe in you. You are in the minority.
Apples and oranges. You wouldn't last 2 minutes in a Jr Hr debate
club.
Nope. Just a lousy speller.
>Also It's mind-numbingly obvious that fan is short for fanatic.
Wrong. A fan is someone who likes something. A FANATIC is someone who
is FANATICAL..that means beyond a fan. EVERYONE knows that but
FANATICS won't admit it. Cheeseheads are FANATICS. The idiots who
paint their faces the team colors are FANATICS. And an adult who fawns
over a pro player is a FANATIC..in your cause an immature adult with
no life.
>It's
>like saying you have lots of RAM but no Random Access Memory, you are
>a fan of the Nats but not the Nationals, you're a homo but not a
>homosexual. They mean the same thing, they are the same thing.
Nope. Completely different. Stop trying to change the subject.
>I suspect that others would finger you as the troll. I strongly
>suspect a clear majority would say so.
SO the majority IS important to you?
>I'm not sure if you are arguing that (1) it is wrong to show more
>interest in one player than any other player on a team (because that's
>immature) or (2) if you are arguing, yeah you can do that but not so
>much you have become too fanatical, or (3) if you are arguing that you
>can't even care about players it must be the team, the laundry. Not
>that any of these arguments make sense to me. Stirring up trouble on
>a newsgroup featuring a subject you know precious little about is much
>more mature.
>
>I believe it's a rare fan that does not have a favorite player, if you
>want to argue 95% of sports fans are immature, okay.
When you state that you will follow EVERY PITCH..then you need to grow
the fuck up. You were crying that Maddux was gone and now you have to
find someone else to fill that empty spot in your life. You really
need help.
>Obviously if you
>have a favorite tennis player, golfer, race car driver, biker you fall
>in the same category. "I just like to watch them play, I don't care
>who wins." Personally, I like to watch excellence and I have limited
>time so I specialize my time, increase the like-hood I will see
>something great. I watched Clemens, Pedro, Randy, and Maddux as often
>as possible. I wouldn't turn the dial if Bonds or Pujols was up to
>the plate because it's an opportunity to see something extraordinary.
>I've been blessed to follow Maddux and Marino and to a lesser extent
>Murphy, Dominique Wilkens, and Niekro. I hope to catch lightning in a
>bottle again and get to see excellence on my team. It might be Tommy
>Hanson who can do it. If hoping this is immaturity then I am guilty.
>Either way you are a troll.
Nah..I'm no troll but you are an immature little boy who needs to get
a life.
> Nah..I never said a vote matters. I simply said most of the world
> thinks you christians are nuts. That's a fact.
As is the case most of the time, you're an ignorant troll.
There are +/- 2.1 billion Christians in the world. That accounts for
roughly a third of the human population.
Following in second is Islam with +/- 1.5 million adherents, for a 20%
share of the shaved ape family. Then Hinduism (+/- 900M),
"traditional Chinese religion" (+/- 395M), Buddhism (+/- 375M),
"primal/indigenous" including African natural religions (300-400M,
depending on how you count subsets.) At that point you fall off into
your second-tier "major world religions" like Sikhism (mystical Islam,
23M), Spiritism (15M depending on how you count subsets) and Judiaism
(14M.) Ba'hai, Shinto and Jainism come in +/- 5M each. 2.5M
Zorastarians, 2M Tenrikyo, 1M Neo-Pagans, 800K Universalist
Unitarians, 600K Rastafarians and, regretfully, a good half mil
Scientologists.
If you combine ALL POSSIBLE categories of "non-believers" into one
slice of the pie you get about a billion people. Now, half of those
self describe as "theistic, non-religious" so you're really not out of
the believer categories yet.
The point, of course, is that "most of the world" are Christians, and
doesn't think Christians are nuts. If you add up the Christians and
Muslims (who, in case you were wondering, believe everything
Christians believe except that bit about Christ) you've accounted for
more than half of the hairless apes on the planet.
You're an idiot. Your children should be ashamed of you.
s/
>On Jul 19, 10:46�am, Lookout <mrLook...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Nah..I never said a vote matters. I simply said most of the world
>> thinks you christians are nuts. That's a fact.
>
>As is the case most of the time, you're an ignorant troll.
>
>There are +/- 2.1 billion Christians in the world. That accounts for
>roughly a third of the human population.
Stop there. That means 2/3 aren't. All of them think you christians
are nuts.
>Following in second is Islam with +/- 1.5 million adherents, for a 20%
>share of the shaved ape family. Then Hinduism (+/- 900M),
>"traditional Chinese religion" (+/- 395M), Buddhism (+/- 375M),
>"primal/indigenous" including African natural religions (300-400M,
>depending on how you count subsets.) At that point you fall off into
>your second-tier "major world religions" like Sikhism (mystical Islam,
>23M), Spiritism (15M depending on how you count subsets) and Judiaism
>(14M.) Ba'hai, Shinto and Jainism come in +/- 5M each. 2.5M
>Zorastarians, 2M Tenrikyo, 1M Neo-Pagans, 800K Universalist
>Unitarians, 600K Rastafarians and, regretfully, a good half mil
>Scientologists.
>
>If you combine ALL POSSIBLE categories of "non-believers" into one
>slice of the pie you get about a billion people. Now, half of those
>self describe as "theistic, non-religious" so you're really not out of
>the believer categories yet.
>
>The point, of course, is that "most of the world" are Christians, and
>doesn't think Christians are nuts. If you add up the Christians and
>Muslims (who, in case you were wondering, believe everything
>Christians believe except that bit about Christ) you've accounted for
>more than half of the hairless apes on the planet.
You're math skill suck. You must be from the south.
>You're an idiot. Your children should be ashamed of you.
>
>s/
Nah..my daughter is very proud of me. I was responsible for stopping
you idiots from handing out bibles in her school about 15 years ago.
They still whine about it in the local paper and I'm very proud of it.
Whose sock is this? Could sam be pulling a super sekret double agent
sockpuppet trick? Having his foil make the most inane points and then
allowing himself to counter it is Rovian genius.
T
Not my fault.
s/
> >
> > Whose sock is this? Could sam be pulling a super sekret double agent
> > sockpuppet trick? �Having his foil make the most inane points and then
> > allowing himself to counter it is Rovian genius.
>
>
> Not my fault.
>
Yes it is. if you hadn't responded to him, I never would have known
that he was saying whatever stupid thing he was saying.
dick
-- please don't feed the trolls.
>On Jul 19, 5:43嚙緘m, "TimV" <nos...@nospam.org> wrote:
>> Lookout wrote:
>> > On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 08:12:53 -0700 (PDT), Sam Hutcheson
>> > <s...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> On Jul 19, 10:46 am, Lookout <mrLook...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>> Nah..I never said a vote matters. I simply said most of the world
>> >>> thinks you christians are nuts. That's a fact.
>>
>> >> As is the case most of the time, you're an ignorant troll.
>>
>> >> There are +/- 2.1 billion Christians in the world. 嚙確hat accounts for
>> >> roughly a third of the human population.
>>
>> > Stop there. That means 2/3 aren't. All of them think you christians
>> > are nuts.
>>
>> >> Following in second is Islam with +/- 1.5 million adherents, for a
>> >> 20% share of the shaved ape family. 嚙確hen Hinduism (+/- 900M),
>> >> "traditional Chinese religion" (+/- 395M), Buddhism (+/- 375M),
>> >> "primal/indigenous" including African natural religions (300-400M,
>> >> depending on how you count subsets.) 嚙璀t that point you fall off into
>> >> your second-tier "major world religions" like Sikhism (mystical
>> >> Islam, 23M), Spiritism (15M depending on how you count subsets) and
>> >> Judiaism (14M.) 嚙畿a'hai, Shinto and Jainism come in +/- 5M each.
>> >> 2.5M Zorastarians, 2M Tenrikyo, 1M Neo-Pagans, 800K Universalist
>> >> Unitarians, 600K Rastafarians and, regretfully, a good half mil
>> >> Scientologists.
>>
>> >> If you combine ALL POSSIBLE categories of "non-believers" into one
>> >> slice of the pie you get about a billion people. 嚙瞇ow, half of those
>> >> self describe as "theistic, non-religious" so you're really not out
>> >> of the believer categories yet.
>>
>> >> The point, of course, is that "most of the world" are Christians, and
>> >> doesn't think Christians are nuts. 嚙瘢f you add up the Christians and
>> >> Muslims (who, in case you were wondering, believe everything
>> >> Christians believe except that bit about Christ) you've accounted for
>> >> more than half of the hairless apes on the planet.
>>
>> > You're math skill suck. You must be from the south.
>>
>> >> You're an idiot. 嚙磐our children should be ashamed of you.
>>
>> >> s/
>> > Nah..my daughter is very proud of me. I was responsible for stopping
>> > you idiots from handing out bibles in her school about 15 years ago.
>> > They still whine about it in the local paper and I'm very proud of it.
>>
>> Whose sock is this? Could sam be pulling a super sekret double agent
>> sockpuppet trick? 嚙瘡aving his foil make the most inane points and then
>> allowing himself to counter it is Rovian genius.
>
>
>Not my fault.
>
>s/
HAHAH Nice try.
You're still as wrong as you were to begin with.
And still no proof there is a god.
Religion makes you stupid.
What's your excuse then? Mommy drop you on your head or just that 75% of
your DNA comes from your father's line?
T
There's a certain irony about a man who thinks I'm blinded by
religious belief accusing anyone else of being stupid.
s/