No Cy Young for Maddux
Jason Foster
chances at a fifth Cy Young are shot. The only was I could see him
getting it is if the Braves go all the way to the World Series and he
has some great outings during the post season. This would leave the
baseball writers with a good impression of Maddox, which could be
influential (even though post-season isn't supposed to count).
Meanwhile, I don't know what to think of Maddux. Is it even possible
that something we've all been dreading is finally starting to happen?
That being--Maddux starts to lose it. Now I know that this recent "bad"
streak can be called a slump, or anything else to indicate that it will
eventually pass. However, I think (and fear) that it's something else. I
think that something's wrong--possibly an injury we don't know about.
Remember last year when Alex Fernandez (I think) all of a sudden hit a
hard slump, not ulike Maddux's. He was just missing with location, like
Maddux. Long story short, he just wasn't himself anymore. The problem
turned out to be a major injury (rotator cuff I believe).
I'm not saying that Maddux has anything this serious, but something does
seem to be wrong (except for the last Florida outing). To be honest, I'm
starting to get worried about Maddux.
Jason
Twiddle
>
> Well, after tonight's outing it's pretty safe to say that Maddox's
> chances at a fifth Cy Young are shot. The only was I could see him
> getting it is if the Braves go all the way to the World Series and he
> has some great outings during the post season. This would leave the
> baseball writers with a good impression of Maddox, which could be
> influential (even though post-season isn't supposed to count).
It doesn't count. As I understand it, the votes are cast before post
season play starts, even though the results aren't announced until
later.
Twiddle
Maddux3l
>>In the Maddux loses you can see the Braves scored:
0 - 1 game
1 - 2 games
2 - 2 games
3 - 2 games
Well, you can now add another game next to the 0 runs scored column
Endymion9
I love Greg Maddux. But in his last 39 innings he has a 5.63 ERA. I am
starting to get worried for the post season also. It reminds me of Glavine in
92 when he lapped the field for the first 3/4ths of the season then faltered at
the end with a tired arm. Maddux slipped in with the Cy Young that year
although Glavine was the run away choice 3/4 way thru the season.
The Cy Young however isn't what I'm worried about, it's going down 0-1 in the
first playoff series.
I know I'll get yelled at or laughed at for this remark but what would you
think of a starting rotation of
1. Glavine
2. Smoltz
3. Millwood
in the post season with Madduz and Neagle as long relief men?
Just a thought.
Dennis/Endy
Happiness is reading a good scifi book :)
jef...@gte.net
madd...@aol.com (Maddux3l) wrote:
>
> >>In the Maddux loses you can see the Braves scored:
> 0 - 1 game
> 1 - 2 games
> 2 - 2 games
> 3 - 2 games
>
> Well, you can now add another game next to the 0 runs scored column
>
pitch, the offense takes a powder. At least four of those games
should be wins..............poor maddux
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Dick Sidbury
17wins- 9 losses- 7 no decisions (1-6 team record
in no decisions).
Team record in Maddux starts: 18-15
Total team runs scored in his starts: 142
Runs support for team in his starts: 4.303
Total runs allowed in his starts: 97
Runs per game average in starts: 2.9393
NOTE: the above numbers are for the entire
game including runs scored after Maddux left
and also runs allowed by the pen in his
starts.
2-1 Brewers ND
1-2 Phils L
0-1 Phils ND
7-0 Bucs W
7-5 Rockies W
6-7 Rockies L
6-2 Giants W
7-0 Dodgers W
8-1 Reds W
2-3 AStros ND
8-2 Cubs W
2-0 Expos W
5-2 Brewers W
9-0 Orioles W
5-7 Expos ND
6-2 Marlins W
4-6 Yankees ND
2-0 Blue Jays W
6-0 Tampa Bay W
3-4 Marlins L
4-3 Brewers W
0-3 Cubs L
2-1 Pirates W
2-3 Cards L
5-0 Reds W
1-5 Padres L
8-4 Giants W
12-7 Dodgers W
4-5 Cards ND
2-4 Astros L
3-6 Expos L
5-6 Marlins ND
0-5 Diamondbacks L
Runs given up (by staff) in wins
0 7
1 2
2 4
3 1
4 1
>4 2
Total 29
Avg 1.71
Runs scored in wins
1 0
2 3
3 0
4 1
5 2
6 3
>6 8
Total 102
Avg 6
Runs given up (by staff) in losses
2,3,3,4,4,5,5,6,7 = 39
Avg: 39/9=4.33
Runs scored in losses
0,0,1,1,2,2,3,3,6 = 18
Avg: 18/9 = 2.00
Runs given up (by staff) in no decisions
1,1,3,5,6,6,7 = 29
Avg: 29/7 = 4.14
Runs scored in no decisions
0,2,2,4,4,5,5 = 22
Avg: 22/7 = 3.14
Record in No decisions 1-6
Summary of average runs per game:
Wins Losses No Decisions
scored 6.00 2.00 3.14
allowed 1.71 4.33 4.14
So it seems that they score a lot and
he doesn't give up much when he wins
and that they don't score much and
give up a lot when he loses.
dick
Billy
>I love Greg Maddux. But in his last 39 innings he has a 5.63 ERA. I am
>starting to get worried for the post season also. It reminds me of Glavine in
>92 when he lapped the field for the first 3/4ths of the season then faltered at
>the end with a tired arm. Maddux slipped in with the Cy Young that year
>although Glavine was the run away choice 3/4 way thru the season.
to pitch through.
>I know I'll get yelled at or laughed at for this remark but what would you
>think of a starting rotation of
>1. Glavine
>2. Smoltz
>3. Millwood
>in the post season with Madduz and Neagle as long relief men?
I say it should be Glavine/Smoltz/Maddux (or reverse the first two)
with Millwood and Neagle (both of whom have relief experience) in
the pen...for however long the postseason lasts.
Billy
Terry May
>I say it should be Glavine/Smoltz/Maddux (or reverse the first two)
>with Millwood and Neagle (both of whom have relief experience) in
>the pen...for however long the postseason lasts.
The thing is, Glavine is so awesome on the road, I think I might want
him starting game 3.
I would go Smoltz/Maddux/Glavine.
--
Otagger ß1.22: Terry May - Las Vegas NV
Atlanta Braves - Seven straight division titles!
RobertY524
>I know I'll get yelled at or laughed at for this remark but what would you
>think of a starting rotation of
>1. Glavine
>2. Smoltz
>3. Millwood
>in the post season with Madduz and Neagle as long relief men?
>
Maddux is still the best. He will start the first game if possible.
Bob
"Only put off until tomorrow what you are willing to die having left undone."
Pablo Picasso
C. R. Burrell
RobertY524 wrote in message <19980920142158...@ng03.aol.com>...
>
>>I know I'll get yelled at or laughed at for this remark but what would you
>>think of a starting rotation of
>>1. Glavine
>>2. Smoltz
>>3. Millwood
>>in the post season with Madduz and Neagle as long relief men?
>>
>
>Maddux is still the best. He will start the first game if possible.
Bobby disagrees with you. Cox has selected, Smoltz, Glavine, Maddux as his
rotation in the first (short) series.
Russ Burrell
Billy
>On Sun 20-09-98 01:44, Billy pitched the following:
>
>>I say it should be Glavine/Smoltz/Maddux (or reverse the first two)
>>with Millwood and Neagle (both of whom have relief experience) in
>>the pen...for however long the postseason lasts.
>
>The thing is, Glavine is so awesome on the road, I think I might want
>him starting game 3.
too shabby at home either. Millwood is the one who concerns
me in this category.
>I would go Smoltz/Maddux/Glavine.
Only reason that spooks me is it leaves Maddux pitching thepossible
game five...the second time the opposing team would be seeing him.
I have all the respect int he world for Maddux, but given history,
that's not the safe bet.
Billy
RobertY524
>>Maddux is still the best. He will start the first game if possible.
>
>Bobby disagrees with you. Cox has selected, Smoltz, Glavine, Maddux as his
>rotation in the first (short) series.
>
>
>Russ Burrell
Oh well, can't win them all. But will this be because of how the season ends
and how the rotation sets? Is the rotation dictating this? Just curious.
Billy
>>Bobby disagrees with you. Cox has selected, Smoltz, Glavine, Maddux as his
>>rotation in the first (short) series.
>>
>>
>>Russ Burrell
>
>Oh well, can't win them all. But will this be because of how the season ends
>and how the rotation sets? Is the rotation dictating this? Just curious.
Billy