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Dave Mock

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Jul 15, 2001, 4:09:29 PM7/15/01
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I know I just posted a message re racecallers -- but afterward I came
upon an old Best Track Announcer thread and had to add my $2. These
are highly personal, based upon the limited experience of a
33-year-old railbird who never got to hear Fred Capossela live...


FAVORITE CURRENT ANNOUNCER -- Trevor Denman, Del Mar (consistent,
level-headed, exciting AND understated)
HONORABLE MENTION: Luke Kruytbosch, Churchill Downs (same qualities as
Denman)
MOST EXCITING ANNOUNCER: Tom Durkin, NYRA
SURPRISINGLY GOOD IN HIS LOCAL GIG: Dave Johnson, The Meadowlands and
Fox Sports Net (very little screaming)
ALL-TIME LEGENDS: Chic Anderson, Clem McCarthy
WISH I'D HEARD: Cappy, Marty Glickman, Dave Johnson at NYRA

David Balfoort

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Jul 15, 2001, 4:22:25 PM7/15/01
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Marty Glickman is a little before my time but I wasn't aware he was a
caller. Where and when?

David

Michael Napolitano

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Jul 15, 2001, 10:38:38 PM7/15/01
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I believe Marty Glickman was the TV host for the old local (NY) coverage
of harness races from Yonkers, Roosevelt, and Monticello. Probably would
have been WOR-TV (ch. 9) or maybe WPIX-TV (ch. 11). I don't remember him
as a live at the track race caller. Cappy, of course, is the hall of
famer.


Ocala Mike

LOU

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Jul 15, 2001, 8:45:05 PM7/15/01
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I remember Joe Hernandez when I was a lad :)

He was terrific!

LOU - Paintsville, Kentucky

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http://www.mountainhomeplace.com/queensland.htm

Morehits4u

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Jul 15, 2001, 11:09:15 PM7/15/01
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>ubject: Favorite announcers
>From: dfm...@rocketmail.com (Dave Mock)
>Date: 07/15/2001 3:09 PM C

are we on the same planet here ?? Tom
Durkin .. the most exciting ?? shaking
my head and taking a valium ..maybe
that will help me understand...all in my
humble opinion of course...The best
2 announcers ever ...harry henson at
hollywood park ... and the guy who did
the race re creations for the Vegas book
makers before simulcasting...Also the
guy who did Chicago tracks...cant recall
his name.

longshotjohn7

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Jul 15, 2001, 11:17:25 PM7/15/01
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>>>guy who did Chicago tracks....

You must be talking about Phil Georgeff.........

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longshotjohn7 happy gambling

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- Thomas Alva Edison (1847-1931)

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Kevin Wise

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Jul 16, 2001, 1:08:48 AM7/16/01
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Who's the guy that called the '87 Breeder's Cup? I've only been following
the races for a couple of years, but the stretch call of the
Ferdinand/Alysheba photo finish gives me goosebumps everytime I hear it.

This guy will never be confused with Denman or Durkin, but I really like
Tony Calo, who does the NoCal circuit (Bay Meadows and Golden Gate
Fields). I'll admit to being biased since that's my "home" circuit, but
Calo is very accurate and doesn't try to be overly dramatic. He often
chides the fans when a longshot comes home, saying "HELLO?!?! She's 18 to
1!" or "How do you like her now?" Even if I'm tossing a chalky mutuel
ticket, it never ceases to crack me up. Most importantly, he doesn't
screw up and lets the horses create most of the excitement.

k

karl steinhoff

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Jul 16, 2001, 10:47:54 AM7/16/01
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Dave Mock wrote in message ...

>WISH I'D HEARD: Cappy, Marty Glickman, Dave Johnson at NYRA

I've heard that Johnson actually did call Secretariat's Belmont at the track
that day, though what we've all heard was Anderson's television call. What
surprises me is that I've never heard the DJ call show up on a clip show or
anywhere else, even though his Marlboro Cup call has appeared in a few
places.

Has anyone *ever* heard how Johnson called the '73 Belmont?

(And an aside to Morehits - Harry Henson was indeed the man - the perfect
racecaller's voice. His calls of the J.O. Tobin Swaps and the Ack Ack Gold
Cup still give me the tingles.)

kes


Corsing

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Jul 16, 2001, 4:25:47 PM7/16/01
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Kevin Wise wrote:
>

> This guy will never be confused with Denman or Durkin, but I really like
> Tony Calo, who does the NoCal circuit (Bay Meadows and Golden Gate
> Fields). I'll admit to being biased since that's my "home" circuit, but
> Calo is very accurate and doesn't try to be overly dramatic.

You've got to be kidding, right? He's only one in a long line of
horrible race-callers who have called races in Northern Calif. Here are
a few:

Todd Creed: A drunk who had to be replaced after the fourth race everyday.

John Gibson: Arrested for child molesting

Danny Alameida: A con man who spent more time in the stewards office
than he did calling races.

Dick Riley: You could eat lunch before he figured out who was running
third. Also, only called the first two horses after the half-mile pole.

Lumpy (now calling at Monmouth); Spent more time imitating Denman and
others, thus never finding his own voice.

I can't think of his name right now, but the guy Calo replaced: This guy
was so bad, track officials made him correct his calls for the nightly
replay show.

Tony Calo: If this guy would just call the races and forget the cheesy
phrases like "the killer crossover", he might be OK. Also, when he
called a Cliff Delima sprinter the best sprinter in Calif., it makes one
wonder if he's lost his marbles. Hasn't he heard of Kona Gold or Caller One?

Michael Wrona was the best who ever called races in NorCal. Well, there
was that Spring meet Denman called at GGF.

db...@postoffice.pacbell.net

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Jul 16, 2001, 5:47:03 PM7/16/01
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karl steinhoff wrote:

" ..and here comes the Cougar! " ...Joe Hernandez

" ...and it's a driving finish ! "...Harry Henson

".. and he's moving like an express train.." Trevor Denman

" ...ooops " . Clem Mc Carthy

deeb
...


Kevin Wise

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Jul 16, 2001, 6:00:37 PM7/16/01
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Thanks for sharing your knowledge-I'm new out here and I had no idea there
was such an interesting history to NoCal race callers. I found your post
fascinating.

I still like Calo, cheesy phrases and all. I was at GG Fields the day he
called El Dorado Shooter "one of the fastest guns in the west." I didn't
get the impression Calo was calling him the best sprinter in CA, but I
could certainly be wrong. I'm with you-no way does E.D. Shooter have the
gas to run with Caller One or the class to hang with Kona Gold. Not even
on a wet-fast GG Fields racing strip (he recorded a 116 Beyer that day).

kevin

Dave Mock

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Jul 16, 2001, 9:25:51 PM7/16/01
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Thanks for the posts. Even Morehits4u, who I've now learned by past
posts is
NOT a Tom Durkin fan.

Good to hear from you, Kevin. If the Ferdinand/Alysheba was a
Breeder's Cup, it would probably be Tom Durkin, unless he was sick and
they went to the track caller. Durkin has been the voice of the
Breeder's Cup from day one.

Re the Secretariat Belmont: The late, great Chic Anderson was the CBS
Television racecaller for Secretariat's Belmont romp. Dave Johnson was
indeed the Belmont Park track announcer. (Chic was the PA guy at
Churchill Downs up to 1977, when he replaced Dave Johnson at NYRA.)

I heard Johnson's 1973 Belmont call on the intro to an ABC Radio
broadcast of the Belmont Stakes, and it was OK -- exciting without
veering into a Russ Hodges "Secretariat wins the pennant! Secretariat
wins the pennant!" mode.

However, the NYRA website and all the NYRA promotions I've seen
involving Secretariat have used the Anderson call, not Johnson's,
which would tick me off to no end if I were Dave Johnson. At least
NYRA could have both available, since it was were paying him. (I
personally prefer Anderson's call.)

BY THE WAY -- on a clear copy of the CBS-TV broadcast of the '73
Belmont, some CBS-TV audio guy put an echo on Anderson's voice. That's
right- a PA-like ECHO -- as if he were the track voice. Go to the
Museum of Television and Radio in NYC or LA and listen for yourself.

Dave

karl steinhoff

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Jul 16, 2001, 11:22:01 PM7/16/01
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In article <b7b61152.01071...@posting.google.com>,
dfm...@rocketmail.com (Dave Mock) wrote:

> BY THE WAY -- on a clear copy of the CBS-TV broadcast of the '73
> Belmont, some CBS-TV audio guy put an echo on Anderson's voice. That's
> right- a PA-like ECHO -- as if he were the track voice. Go to the
> Museum of Television and Radio in NYC or LA and listen for yourself.

Hmm . . . . . . I *HAVE* the original CBS broadcast on (audio) tape
somewhere. I'll have to listen to that to see if I can detect it on my
fairly low quality recording (holding up a microphone in front of the TV
speaker).

--
karl "at" deltanet "dot" com
(use the obvious substitution for direct replies)

Bet For A Living

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Jul 17, 2001, 4:52:49 AM7/17/01
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Actually that show was Stan Bergstein and some other guy (not him).


Ray Gordon, Author
The Seduction Library
http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html

Bet For A Living

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Jul 17, 2001, 4:59:45 AM7/17/01
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Some memorables:

Bob Meyer, Yonkers:

"They straighten away in the stretch and drive for the wire....It's My Fella on
the inside, Mohawk Fella on the outside....It's My Fella and Mohawk
Fella........It's My Fella and Mohawk Fella.......HANOVER LOBELL IN FRONT!"

Jack Lee, Roosevelt.

Roger Houston, Meadows (who else could YELL over $1,500 claimers?)

Keith Jones, Philadelphia (the best unknown announcer in the country)

Larry Lederman, various (very witty).

Tom Durkin (actually explains what is going on to those who can't see the
race).

Callers I don't/didn't like:

Denman (he acts like his call is more important than the race)

Marshall Cassidy (No Doz would wake him up)

Kruypocht (sp?). Ever since that Hertz commercial I can't stand him.

scratch 1

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Jul 17, 2001, 8:38:23 AM7/17/01
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I like Calo--cheese and all. Hard to
get too fired up about 4 and 5 horse
fields. "And THEEEEERE they go . . ."
I'm glad Wrona is back--where's he
gonna be after LS is done?

A guy who doesn't get enough credit
is Luke Krutybosch (sp?) at Churchill.
Why he doesn't get the national call
of the Derby is beyond me. I'm usually
at CD, can never see squat, but always
know where my horses are as long as
I can pick up the PA system. His first
Derby was the last one with 20 horses
in it. Davey Johnson went completely
silent at least twice, including the final
turn. Luke never missed a beat.

I used to like Chic Anderson too. Wasn't
it one of the Affirmed/Alydar TC races
where he blew the call and kept calling
the wrong horse in the lead?

The worst has got to be Mike Battaglia.
Nice guy, best ML writer there is, but
terrible race caller. He's notorious for
pounding them at the windows, and
you can always tell which horse he
bet. They keep getting calls even if
they're getting beat by a pole in the
stretch.

I like Durkin. I saw him speak at
a BC event, and he was positively
hilarious. He looked like Columbo--
totally disheveled, like he'd slept in
his clothes for 2 or 3 days. Just chock
full of stories too.

. .at the rail,
PK

Richard Nash

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Jul 17, 2001, 9:00:24 AM7/17/01
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scratch 1 wrote:

> He's notorious for
> pounding them at the windows, and
> you can always tell which horse he
> bet. They keep getting calls even if
> they're getting beat by a pole in the
> stretch.

I realize when these threads come up from time to time that I don't
listen to the race call. I think I am too absorbed in what I am
watching and my own internal call. But still, just for entertainment
value, if I did listen to racecalls, I think I would like this guy for
precisely this reason.

Corsing

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Jul 17, 2001, 9:51:19 AM7/17/01
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scratch 1 wrote:
>
> I like Calo--cheese and all. Hard to
> get too fired up about 4 and 5 horse
> fields. "And THEEEEERE they go . . ."

"And THEEEEERE they go..." was "borrowed" from
Harry Henson.

Corsing

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Jul 17, 2001, 10:01:13 AM7/17/01
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Kevin Wise wrote:

> I still like Calo, cheesy phrases and all. I was at GG Fields the day he
> called El Dorado Shooter "one of the fastest guns in the west."

He was not and is not one of the best sprinters in California. That day
the horse beat, at best, a mediocre allowance field. Decent horse though
- I wonder where he is now.

karl steinhoff

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Jul 17, 2001, 10:27:54 AM7/17/01
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scratch 1 wrote in message
<17648-3B...@storefull-248.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...

>I used to like Chic Anderson too. Wasn't
>it one of the Affirmed/Alydar TC races
>where he blew the call and kept calling
>the wrong horse in the lead?

You might be thinking of the '75 Derby, when he called Prince Thou Art in
the lead at mid-stretch, then suddenly noticed it was Foolish Pleasure, who
went on to win. Both horses had black & white silks, if I remember.

kes


Fager

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Jul 17, 2001, 10:46:36 AM7/17/01
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>Re the Secretariat Belmont: The late, great Chic Anderson was the CBS
>Television racecaller for Secretariat's Belmont romp. Dave Johnson was
>indeed the Belmont Park track announcer. (Chic was the PA guy at
>Churchill Downs up to 1977, when he replaced Dave Johnson at NYRA.)
>
>I heard Johnson's 1973 Belmont call on the intro to an ABC Radio
>broadcast of the Belmont Stakes, and it was OK -- exciting without
>veering into a Russ Hodges "Secretariat wins the pennant! Secretariat
>wins the pennant!" mode.


Best call of that Belmont that I heard was Ray Haight's, I believe from
CBS Radio, and the one used on the "Secretariat" record album.

Fager


Richard Nash

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Jul 17, 2001, 10:50:46 AM7/17/01
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Or you might be thinking of the grandaddy of all race-calling errors,
when Clem McCarthy mistakenly called Derby-winner Jet Pilot the winner
of the Preakness (he actually finished fourth). McCarthy corrected
himself immediately, adding "when I make a mistake, it's a doozy."

Bob

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Jul 17, 2001, 2:52:13 PM7/17/01
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BFL,

Was wondering if anyone would pick up on Keith Jones. I watch and
listen to most of my racing over youbet.com and some of these guys seem
to be talking with a mouthful of marbles. Keith Jones has great
pronunciation so I can understand where the horses are when the youbet
picture freezes :). Plus I like the fact that he doesn't just read out
the exotic payoffs after the race - he reads all of the payoffs
including place and show. And I love it when I have a 20-1 or better
horse cross the wire in front and he says, "At the wire it's Bob by
three lengths at 22-1, Helllllll-ooooo."

Bob

Bet For A Living wrote:

> Keith Jones, Philadelphia (the best unknown announcer in the country)

> Ray Gordon, Author

--
"Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress.
But I repeat myself." -- Mark Twain

Dave Mock

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Jul 17, 2001, 6:57:30 PM7/17/01
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Ray Haight! THAT's the guy who did the Secretariat call for the CBS
Radio Network. I thought his call was cool too -- especially when he
said Big Red was so far out in front that he was making an absolute
joke of the 105th Belmont.

Dig his partner Win Eliot going "WHOOOO!" as Secretariat hit the wire.

Re Chic Anderson's flub of the 1975 Kentucky Derby, calling Prince
Thou Art in the lead: The New York Times had the best headline about
it, saying "Prince Thou Ain't."

Dave

buffbill

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Jul 17, 2001, 11:32:13 PM7/17/01
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"Richard Nash" <na...@indiana.edu> wrote

> I realize when these threads come up from time to time that I don't
> listen to the race call. I think I am too absorbed in what I am
> watching and my own internal call.

Same with me. They're just background noise as far as I'm concerned.

buffbill


buffbill

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Jul 17, 2001, 11:35:43 PM7/17/01
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"Bet For A Living" <betfor...@aol.com> wrote

> >> Marty Glickman is a little before my time but I wasn't aware he was a
> >> caller. Where and when?

> >I believe Marty Glickman was the TV host for the old local (NY) coverage


> >of harness races from Yonkers, Roosevelt, and Monticello. Probably would
> >have been WOR-TV (ch. 9) or maybe WPIX-TV (ch. 11). I don't remember him

> >as a live at the track race caller. \

> Actually that show was Stan Bergstein and some other guy (not him).

Marty Glickman called the races at Yonkers for at least awhile in the early
60s. As for the rest of the above, I don't know. He was also the greatest
sports announcer ever.

buffbill

Gmquix

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Jul 18, 2001, 9:12:35 AM7/18/01
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marshall casady..........nyra about 10 years ago.....what ever happened to him
????????????????????

scratch 1

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Jul 18, 2001, 9:04:57 AM7/18/01
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I believe the guy who does the pre-race
show at Great Lakes Downs is also the
track announcer. When he's introducing
the horses in the show, he always comments on a shipper starting first
time at GLD with the phrase:
"Welcome to the SHOW!".

It's like their running in the Derby or
Dubai or something. Quite amusing.
Nobody up here carries GLD that I've
seen. I miss it. I liked betting it.

Richard Nash

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Jul 18, 2001, 9:43:03 AM7/18/01
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I had the great pleasure of attending an evening at GLD recently. As my
companion pointed out to me, one of the real treasures was watching this
guy's intro which now runs something along the lines of "Great Lakes Downs
would like to welcome it's audience from around the world." Presumably,
they have picked up a simulcast outlet in Canada (or perhaps Singapore).
An account of an evening in Muskegon will be available soon; as one of my
fellow newsgroupers is fond of saying . . . "stay tuned. Nuff said."

Bill Duncliffe

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Jul 18, 2001, 8:08:14 PM7/18/01
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"Gmquix" <gmq...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> marshall casady..........nyra about 10 years ago.....what ever happened to
him


Don't know what happened to him, but he authored one of my all-time favorite
race calls. Jockey Club Gold Cup, absolutely pouring down buckets of rain.
Waquoit was in the process of thoroughly trouncing a 5 horse field. Coming
out of the turn into the stretch, his lead increasing discernibly with every
step, Marshall slid out "Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-quoit!" painting the
increasing lead with the elongated "a." Just perfrect for the moment.

Bill D.


slip...@webtv.net

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Jul 18, 2001, 8:25:17 PM7/18/01
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Tom Durkin is one of the best in the business. He has made some great
and memorable calls over the years. My favorite was the 1994 Travers
when Concern was coming to Holy Bull. And Tom started yelling "There is
cause for Concern" at the top of stretch and was animated to the finish.
Most people heard Dave Johnson's boring call on ABC. I know Tom took
some heat for yelling Monarchos broke Secrectariat's Derby record at the
end of the race. But hey the guy is only human.

chris lowe

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Jul 18, 2001, 10:28:02 PM7/18/01
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Spencer Ross & John Dockery were the other 2 & Dave Johnson
occasionally.

http://community.webtv.net/DADUU5/UPSTATEHOOFBEATS

Terri Diane Bey

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Jul 18, 2001, 11:52:27 PM7/18/01
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Was Chic Anderson the one who called the Affirmed/Alydar Belmont?

I loved it when the announcer said, "we'll test these two to the
wire......."


Terri Diane Bey and Ace Frehley the Beagle
http://community.webtv.net/Alydace/TERRISCOMET

fooler tn

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Jul 19, 2001, 2:49:36 AM7/19/01
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I REALLY do not like hot dog announcers...the additional 'color'
provided by the hot shots would be laughable in other sports.
...therefore I do not like Denman. Wrona

I did/do like Anderson, Henson, Durkin, Johnson, Cassidy

karl steinhoff

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Jul 19, 2001, 10:45:04 AM7/19/01
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Terri Diane Bey wrote in message
<29626-3B...@storefull-178.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...

>Was Chic Anderson the one who called the Affirmed/Alydar Belmont?

Yep. Chick certainly got to call his share of memorable races, didn't he?

kes


TurfNSport

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Jul 19, 2001, 2:44:35 PM7/19/01
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Hey,

Has anyone mentioned Dave Rodman in Maryland?

VERY good.

Michael Dempsey
www.turfnsport.com

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