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Dave

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May 28, 2002, 5:39:35 PM5/28/02
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Can someone point me towards some info on this gun? It was my late
father's and I just found it in the attic. Seems pretty sweet. All
wood handle makes it weigh a ton, but feels good to hold. Accurate
sighting by my tests.

Also, can someone tell me where I can buy (IF I can buy) .177 pellets
up here in Canada and not need an FAC license? Canadian Tire requires
one...

Email me at chronologicallyfedup @ sympatico dot ca

Thanks!
Dave.

Dan Martin

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May 28, 2002, 8:20:20 PM5/28/02
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are you sure, I think your candian tire sales drone is on crack. Not that I
am an expert on the new gun laws, but pellet guns still aren't considered
fire arms in Canada
Dan


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Jared Mc

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May 29, 2002, 10:01:28 PM5/29/02
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Alas, some pellet guns are considered "firearms" in Canada. . . those that
have a muzzle velocity greater than 500 ft/sec. This includes many rifles,
but excludes almost all pistols. In order to legally own such a beast, one
requires a PAL or a POL (these are ownership/acquisition licenses), else one
could face criminal charges and "up to 2000 years in the pen" (only in
Canada, you say. . . ) or maybe worse. The new laws require you to have a
PAL/POL in order to buy "ammo" for a firearm. .177 pellets are so classed,
even though you may not intend to use them for that purpose (maybe you just
want them for fishing weights. . . )
Suggest you be careful how you handle the Slavia issue, since if you
don't have a PAL/POL, IMHO, you are already a criminal (e.g., don't go to
the police station and say "I've got this gun, so where do I get a
license"). Hope this helps. This is my first attempt at a submission to a
group, so apologize in advance if I offended anyone.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Martin" <nospam...@idirect.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: Slavia 620


> are you sure, I think your candian tire sales drone is on crack. Not that
I
> am an expert on the new gun laws, but pellet guns still aren't considered
> fire arms in Canada
> Dan
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Dan Martin

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May 30, 2002, 8:57:56 PM5/30/02
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I Knew about the 500fps /154m/sec rule, and If it is used as a weapon, I
believe all the related charges will be laid as if it were a fire arm, but I
find it difficult to believe that you vcan buy one without a pal/pol ( I
have one, the original poster doesn't) but not buy the pellets. I am going
to test this out for myself and see what the results are, I will tpost them
here, hopefullt tommorow If I have time.

Cheers.

Dan


Ps You didn';t seem to offend me !

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Dan Martin

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May 30, 2002, 9:23:56 PM5/30/02
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Taken from the Canaian Firearms centre site

http://www.cfc-ccaf.gc.ca/en/owners&users/fact_sheets/airguns.asp

Air guns with a velocity of 500 feet (152.4 meters) per second or less.
These low-velocity air guns are not considered firearms for the purposes of
the Firearms Act. Therefore, you do not need a firearms licence to own such
an air gun, nor do you have to register it.

Some air guns designed to have a lower velocity may be able to discharge
certain high-velocity pellets at more than 152.4 meters or 500 feet per
second.

The status of these air guns is being reviewed in consultation with a
variety of interest groups in the public and private sectors. In the
meantime, the status of an air gun is generally based on the manufacturer's
specifications for that air gun.

snip


Air guns with a velocity of over 500 feet (152.4 metres) per second.
These high-velocity air guns are considered firearms for the purposes of the
Firearms Act. As such, they are subject to the same requirements as other
firearms in the same class.

The three classes of firearms are:

non-restricted (including air rifles);
restricted (including air handguns with a barrel length longer than 105
mm ); and
prohibited(including air handguns with a barrel length of 105 mm or less).
The main requirements under the Firearms Act for these and other firearms
are as follows:

You need a valid firearms licence that allows you to possess that class of
firearm.
The firearm must be registered.
You can only give, sell or lend a firearm to someone who is licensed to have
that class of firearm.
You must store, display and transport the firearm in accordance with the
regulations for storing that particular class of firearm.


Although these air guns are not considered firearms for the purposes of the
Firearms Act, anyone who uses one to commit a crime can be charged with a
firearm offence under the Criminal Code.

As well, many municipalities have regulations affecting the use, buying,
selling and manufacturing of these air guns. For more information on this,
please check with your local government. As well, some provinces now
regulate the sale of airguns

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Dave

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Jun 2, 2002, 7:37:43 PM6/2/02
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As an update to my original posting, it would seem that Canadian Tire
takes the FAC thing too far. I checked out the local Home Hardware
store and they will let you buy pellets, but not a rifle without an
FAC. I went into the store and not only did they let me buy .177
pointed pellets, but the lady let me go behind the counter to get
them.

Dave.

Rob Morin

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Jun 3, 2002, 4:20:30 PM6/3/02
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Hey my buddy has one of those his dad uses it to scare away little rodents
from his garden....

Its quite the gun heavy but packs a good whop, it must be more than 500 FPS?

--

Rob Morin
Montreal, Canada

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Nyder

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Jun 3, 2002, 6:04:30 PM6/3/02
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So you can't buy an air rifle thats below 500fps without an FAC?
Give me a break

Nyder


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Dan Martin

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Jun 3, 2002, 5:05:03 PM6/3/02
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Canadian tire in Pickering will allow purchase of pellets without
fac/pol/pal

Cheers

Dan

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Dan Martin

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Jun 3, 2002, 10:57:37 PM6/3/02
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Wrong Chris, You CAN buy them without an fac, there was a bit of a commotion
recently when some manufacturer came out with a slick new pellet that
effectivley increased the muzzle velocity , putting many past the 500 fps
mark, the gov relaxed on it though. As for under 500 fps being firearms,
only when used in crimes, is what it boils down to, given my basic
understanding of the text. Not that I am pro
registration, control et.c, CUZ I am not, but the firearms centre is pretty
good at getting back to people with questions. I have contacted them on a
couple of occasions and been pleasantly surprised.

Dan

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