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Most powerfull air rifle ???

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Arthur Kendrick

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Jul 9, 2003, 4:40:21 PM7/9/03
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Anybody know for sure what's the most powerfull air rifle on the market. I
have a big rabbit/groundhog problem at my country place in Ontario, Canada,
but dont like the noise of a .22 firearm. I presently own a Weirauch HW
80 - .22 cal which knocks the rabbits over pretty good at 40 yards or so,
but need something a bit more powerfull in .22 or .25 calibre.

Direct e-mail appreicated to : aewke...@sympatico.ca


Trevor Jones

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Jul 9, 2003, 7:05:28 PM7/9/03
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If you want to shop for "the most powerful" you are into the realm of
the precharged pneumatic big bores.

They are not quiet, however. They will put a 9mm lead bullet downrange
in excess of 1000 fps. Not a lot more expensive to buy than the high end
springers.

Gary Barnes is one respected maker, Dennis Quackenbush, another. there
are several variations on the "Career" airgun line, in repeaters and
single shots, in .22 up to .45 cal.

If you want quiet, buy a good bow, and practice. Moderators are
available, sorta, but are not worth the jail time you face in our
jurisdiction. In the States, they are a bit of a grey area, as BATF is
not real concerned with air guns, and in Bitain they are widely
available.

If you need power and quiet, get a longer barrelled .22 rifle and use
the Remington subsonic long rifle cartidges. 39 grains at 1000 fps is a
lot more energy than most air guns will provide. And quieter than the
pneumatics.

If that does not work, resort to quiet violence. Traps and poison bait.

Cheers
Trevor Jones

Joseph Oberlander

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Jul 10, 2003, 3:42:10 AM7/10/03
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Trevor Jones wrote:
> Arthur Kendrick wrote:
>
>>Anybody know for sure what's the most powerfull air rifle on the market. I
>>have a big rabbit/groundhog problem at my country place in Ontario, Canada,
>>but dont like the noise of a .22 firearm. I presently own a Weirauch HW
>>80 - .22 cal which knocks the rabbits over pretty good at 40 yards or so,
>>but need something a bit more powerfull in .22 or .25 calibre.
>>
>>Direct e-mail appreicated to : aewke...@sympatico.ca
>
>
> If you want to shop for "the most powerful" you are into the realm of
> the precharged pneumatic big bores.
>
> They are not quiet, however. They will put a 9mm lead bullet downrange
> in excess of 1000 fps. Not a lot more expensive to buy than the high end
> springers.
>
> Gary Barnes is one respected maker, Dennis Quackenbush, another. there
> are several variations on the "Career" airgun line, in repeaters and
> single shots, in .22 up to .45 cal.
>
> If you want quiet, buy a good bow, and practice. Moderators are
> available, sorta, but are not worth the jail time you face in our
> jurisdiction. In the States, they are a bit of a grey area, as BATF is
> not real concerned with air guns, and in Bitain they are widely
> available.

You beat me to it. Quackenbush makes a 250ft-lb .50 cal version for
only $500. A steal, actually - and far superior to a 9mm air rifle
like the Career. More power, better accuracy, and less cost. Roughly
the same power as a .223, though it won't explode/fragment like a true
varminting round will.

Uses standard black powder lead balls or sabots(CVA makes a line, IIRC)
Gets about 3 shots per tankfull. Heh. That should give you an idea
of the power involved. LOUD. Yeah - that too. ;) OTOH, no muzzle
crack as it is about 800-850fps.

It can be used during bow/black-powder hunting season as it isn't a
true firearm. The Barnes? 500-600ft-lbs. People are taking large
deer(you'd probably call them Elk) with these monsters.

PROBLEM: Barnes is a twink, IMO. Something like a 18 month waiting
list and la-la-land prices(upwards of $3-5K last I checked). Quackenbush
will gladly chew the fat with you and answer all of your questions.
Plus, he sells it for easily half the price it would go for if it was
made by any commercial firm.(~$500!) Left-handed stock and other
goodies are no broblem, either. Nice guy. :)

http://www.connext.net/~daq/index.html

Quackenbush also makes a nice 8.5ft-lb model. Roughly 450fps 25cal.
Nice little pistol - works off of a CO2 powerlet/expendable cartridge.

His .375 pistol he no longer makes, but if you can locate one(good luck),
they fire a .375 cal 85 gr lead ball at 310fps. Roughly 16 ft-lbs.
Talk to him - he might make a 2240 crossman conversion with a 9mm
or larger bore - no get about 10-12 ft-lbs and be just under the
fps limit.

This would be ideal, IMO - small, compact, and as powerful as your
large rifle, and no license required. Maybe $150-$200 for the air pistol.

Other than that - since you have a license(Canada, over 500fps IIRC)
already, just get a .22 Mag (Remington Premier V-Max) or .17HMR (V-Max)and
enjoy the fun.

Neon John

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Sep 6, 2018, 8:05:51 PM9/6/18
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Hello Arthur.

I've spent the past 2 months intensely studying PCP high power air
rifles. I have on order an Air Force Texan SS in .308. It pushes a
.308 55 grain pill well over 1200 fps. The "SS" designation means
fully suppressed. In their videos, a Texan in .45 caliber makes less
noise than the bullet smacking into a feral hog. One of their videos
shows some guys shooting feral hogs in Alabama (a pest animal. No
season, no bag limit) at about 100 yds. When hit, each hog quit what
he was doing and simply fell over.

Other features of this rifle include the largest available air storage
tank at about half a liter, and a very reasonable price. The gun can
be modified with parts available from Air Force to increase the power
even more at the expense of more air usage.

I have also ordered a compressor and a half hour carbon fiber SCBA
tank so air usage will not be a problem.

Regarding the suppressor issue, early in my search I called the
Atlanta BATF office and asked. Their reply was that permanently
attached air gun suppressors are not regulated. For the removable
suppressor, the situation gets a bit more murky. Their position is
that if the suppressor could be mounted to a firearm using a
reasonable amount of effort, then the suppressor is regulated as a
firearm. Not an area I want to wade into.

John



John DeArmond
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