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Airarms S310 grouping problems??

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Carl Blocksidge

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Nov 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/21/99
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I went to 2 well known tuning companies yesterday and both were complaining
about S310`s which don`t group.Venom have sent 3 back to Airarms because of
it, Ivan Hancock believes the transfer port, which is drilled in the barrel has
not been deburred and is damaging the pellets as they enter the barrel.
Venom have pushed pellets up the barrel and sent the damaged pellets to Airarms
as proof.
I must say I`ve never been impressed by the Airarms S310 and think it looks
cheap if you compare it to the Webley Axsor, the guns Airarms had on show at
Weston Park and at Shooting 99 all had machine marks on the breech blocks which
seems like poor quality control to me.
If you read some of the U.S. websites/message boards they are full of
complaints of poor Airarms quality control.
CARL

archo...@my-deja.com

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Nov 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/21/99
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In article <19991120191050...@ng-cm1.aol.com>,

==> Carl,

Thank you for pointing this out, I have a S300 ( standard beech )
which is a load of tosh, bought new. It won't group tightly at 30 yards
and is incredibly pellet-fussy. If you want to put ten shots into an
inch and a half at 30 yards you HAVE to use Bisley Magnums. Nothing else
will group. Pehaps Magnums have the mass to survive slightly better the
"skirt shredding" transfer port.
I was advised by Peter Zamit from the Airgun Centre at Rayleigh that
the S310 was a completely different beast altogether. So muggins bought
one of them as well. Walnut thumbhole stock-the lot. It looks the
business, and shoots like a pile of sh*!. It's the same story all over
again, it will not group with anything other than Magnums, if anything
it's less accurate than the S300. The trigger was gritty and the bolt
action was less than smooth. I've fixed both those problems now but
should I have had to on a £500 rifle...? As of yet, I've not had time to
remove the barrel and study it. It's lined up for doing this winter.
For the record, when I spoke to The Airgun Centre about the inaccuracy
of the rifle they said I was probably using the wrong pellets and would
send me some of the new air-arms range of pellets to try. They never
arrived........ When I spoke to Air-arms about the trigger they asked
what I had done to it.......
I'ts for reason's like this that I will never buy / trust Air Arms
again, not to mention the dealer quoted.
thanks for bringing this up Carl.
===---BUYERS BEWARE---===

S.


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Martin Owens

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Nov 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/21/99
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Say any thing you like about there pcp's (except the promatch). The quality
of my TX200 is as high as factory made rifles get , its arguably the best
spring rifle ever made , and I dont even have a MKIII which are even better.
Why else would Venom customise them if they werent already good ?
Mart.
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Keith

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Nov 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/21/99
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<Mar...@radiator.swinternet.co.uk> wrote:
>Say any thing you like about there pcp's (except the promatch).
>The quality of my TX200 is as high as factory made rifles get ,
>its arguably the best spring rifle ever made, and I dont even have
>a MKIII which are even better.
~~~~~~~~
That is what makes this all the more disappointing. They made great
rifles, and are now letting things slide while resting on their
laurels. The MKIII does have new features but unfortunately one of
them is Quality control problems.

archo...@my-deja.com

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Nov 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/21/99
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In article <818jrq$m5f$1...@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>,

"Martin Owens" <Mar...@radiator.swinternet.co.uk> wrote:
> Say any thing you like about there pcp's (except the promatch). The
quality
> of my TX200 is as high as factory made rifles get , its arguably the
best
> spring rifle ever made , and I dont even have a MKIII which are even
better.

> Why else would Venom customise them if they werent already good ?
> Mart.

==>> Martin, why don't you have yourself a day off eh..?
Why don't you read the subject line again and then assess the
relevance of your post. The subject in hand is the crap quality
of AirArms S310 product, who mentioned their spring guns ?? and what
are you adding to the discussion by saying how good your one is.
I have a specially stocked pro-sport which is just superb, but whats
that good to do with this thread..?
I've wasted £800 on an S300 and an S310 which don't shoot straight but.
hey, thats ok because they make a damn good TX200.
Don't mean to be nasty, but you seem to be saying it's ok to rip
buyers of S3xx rifles off, because they make good spring guns and it
just winds me up a little.

Baz Covill

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Nov 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/21/99
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If you read the Delphi forums you will see BIG problems with TX200s!

Baz


Martin Owens wrote in message <818jrq$m5f$1...@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>...


>Say any thing you like about there pcp's (except the promatch). The quality
>of my TX200 is as high as factory made rifles get , its arguably the best
>spring rifle ever made , and I dont even have a MKIII which are even
better.
>Why else would Venom customise them if they werent already good ?
>Mart.

Martin Owens

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Nov 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/21/99
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I never said it was okay for air arms to rip off s310 buyers , furthermore
the posting refered to airairms quality control , not airarms pcp quality
control, being an airarms owner i felt qualified to answer , Ever herd of
trying a gun before buying it , you seem to have too much money to waste.
<archo...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> In article <818jrq$m5f$1...@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>,
> "Martin Owens" <Mar...@radiator.swinternet.co.uk> wrote:
> > Say any thing you like about there pcp's (except the promatch). The
> quality
> > of my TX200 is as high as factory made rifles get , its arguably the
> best
> > spring rifle ever made , and I dont even have a MKIII which are even
> better.
> > Why else would Venom customise them if they werent already good ?
> > Mart.
>

S

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Nov 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/21/99
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Martin,
So your saying that your post had nothing to do with the quality
control of
the S310 rifle and whether or not they group properly. I see.

Thanks for clearing that up.

S.

Al .

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Nov 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/27/99
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I have an Air-Arms S310 .177, this gun shoots very well, very accurately,
'BUT' a while back, based on the good experiences of the .177 S310, I bought
a new S310 .22, what a piece of sh*t same story as reported on this N/G
totally innacurate, I returned the gun, to 'Michael Tawn Airguns' and after
a few days waiting, followed by a heated argument, I got my money back (the
gun was only a few days old when I returned it) it seems I was lucky to get
a refund and also lucky that during the argument Mr Tawn stated that he no
longer wanted to deal with me :-)
Shabby gun from a shabby dealer !!!

Alan.

archon2000

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Nov 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/27/99
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Al . wrote:
>
> I have an Air-Arms S310 .177, this gun shoots very well, very accurately,
> 'BUT' a while back, based on the good experiences of the .177 S310, I bought
> a new S310 .22, what a piece of sh*t same story as reported on this N/G
> totally innacurate, I returned the gun, to 'Michael Tawn Airguns' and after
> a few days waiting, followed by a heated argument, I got my money back (the
> gun was only a few days old when I returned it) it seems I was lucky to get
> a refund and also lucky that during the argument Mr Tawn stated that he no
> longer wanted to deal with me :-)
> Shabby gun from a shabby dealer !!!
>
> Alan.
>
==>> Respect to you Alan, you stood up for yourself and argued your
money back from a notoriously stubborn dealer. Well Done !!
Have you considered writing a letter to Airgunner about this
incident..? I'm sure they would print it....................
............................................................
............................................................
........................................................NOT!

Al .

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Nov 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/28/99
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archon2000 <ar_ch_...@go.com> wrote in message
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I did consider writing to the magazines, but decided not to waste a stamp, I
thought it would do more good to mention Michael Tawn and his poor service
and bad treatment of customers wherever possible on the internet.
I would advise that anyone who buys a poor shooting airgun, to return it to
where it was purchased from and if the problem is not rectified, insist on a
refund under 'the sale of goods act' which states that a product sold must
be fit for the purpose it was sold for, in the case of an airgun that will
not shoot straight, it isn't fit for the purpose it was sold, so, you are
entitled to a refund, not a replacement or a credit note, a refund ! if the
shop refuses, make a claim against them in the small claims court (county
court) it only costs £10 to take the action and this will be refunded as
well as costs and the full purchase price of the gun, if you genuinely have
a defective product, you WILL win in court, don't get fobbed off, that's
just what the shops want.

Finally, "DON'T BUY FROM 'MICAHAEL TAWN AIRGUNS'.
All the best.

Alan.


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