Robert Ducharme Declared Suppressive Person
Koos Nolst Trenite
the same his master "L. Ron Hubbard".
I quote Robert Ducharme's statement of conviction, in which he
denies the existence of good and evil, just as his master
L. Ron Hubbard does.
On 15 Aug 1998, Robert Ducharme wrote publicly:
"However, the classification of an act as 'good' or 'evil' is
entirely a matter of consideration."
But Robert Ducharme found it opportune to hide his conviction.
His conviction is as profoundly evil and ugly as is his master.
These people (Robert Ducharme and L. Ron Hubbard, and including
such people as Homer Wilson Smith, Ralph Hilton, Christine
Norstrand and Heidrun Beer) experience and exhibit an insane
"joy" in smashing aliveness, decency and truth, and help
offered to them, and they find an insane "pleasure" in
defending criminality.
(All extensively documented in their posts to the newsgroup
alt.clearing.technology)
These compulsions, they can get under control, by realizing that
they are other-determined, and by locating and admitting the
source of their other-derterminism, which is the being L. Ron
Hubbard, usually with the assistance of some of his admirers.
Sorry for the almost two month delay in declaring Robert Ducharme
what he is.
(Reference:
RI-1107i 'Choose Sides in the War against L. Ron Hubbard'
http://AmbassadorForMankind.org/ri-bulletins/ri-1107i.htm)
Koos Nolst Trenite - Ambassador for Mankind
Copyright 1998 by Koos Nolst Trenite
Library of Ambassador for Mankind:
http://AmbassadorForMankind.org
Personal Web-page: http://ArtOrg.com
Enclosure:
"From: Vo...@ctinet.net (RDucharme)
"Newsgroups: alt.clearing.technology
"Subject: Cancel previous message
"Date: 15 Aug 1998 12:33:02 -0400
"In the context of [life], [any crime] becomes non-existent. An
overt [crime against life] only becomes such within the context of a
game with rules. A person could consider that he committed an overt
on himself by allowing himself to become disabled for a near
eternity for the sake of a game to play. But that would not be true
on the eighth dynamic level [creating a game, according to
Ducharme]. In music, tunes with dissonent chords are not necessarily
"bad" [-] simply parents hate them[,] cows won't give as much milk
when they listen to it, they are just a different experience.
[Being tortured or betrayed or raped or lied about, is, according to
Robert Ducharme and his master, "just a different experience".]
"But I do agree that having [conflicts of the past unburdened] does
not give one [a] license to commit overts [crimes on life]. The
mechanics of the game will still cause repercussions. However, the
classification of an act as "good" or "evil" is entirely a matter of
consideration."
"Robert Ducharme"
--
Koos Nolst Trenite
quoted below, as is not difficult to see.
It is only L. Ron Hubbard speaking through Ralph Hilton.
(It's the same with other similar posters who also post
complete gibberish without any sense at all: They are
completely overwhelmed by L. Ron Hubbard in this and
earlier lifetimes, and they just execute the intentions, the
very insane, violently insane intentions of L. Ron Hubbard,
which mainly are and always have been to destroy life
forever and perfectly.)
So you have to forgive these guys and girls: They have not
the faintest idea that they are not talking for themselves.
The only way I know of that you can help them is to tell them
that they are being zombies to the being L. Ron Hubbard and
ask them 'Why are you a zombie to the being L. Ron Hubbard'.
A suggested handling is:
The following questions are doing and have done miracles in
defense against L. Ron Hubbard:
1. What about yourself has L. Ron Hubbard prevented
you from perceiving?
(repetitive question)
2. What about the future has L. Ron Hubbard prevented
you from perceiving?
(repetitive question)
3. What about the future is L. Ron Hubbard preventing
you from perceiving?
(repetitive question)
- Answers to question 1., for instance:
Your good intentions, yourself.
- Answers to question 2. and 3, for instance:
Anything about your future, about the future of others,
and any mechanisms (like statistics, his pretended goals
for Mankind, etc.) that made you believe you were
looking at the future while you or others were tricked
into NOT looking at the ACTUAL true future for yourself,
or for others, which he ACTUALLY creates or created.
Your purpose for Mankind is
"Freedom from L. Ron Hubbard",
for everyone.
Koos Nolst Trenite - Ambassador for Mankind
Copyright 1998 by Koos Nolst Trenite
Library of Ambassador for Mankind:
http://AmbassadorForMankind.org
Personal Web-page: http://ArtOrg.com
Ralph Hilton posted on Thu, 08 Oct 1998 03:33:23 GMT:
>
> Koos is a silly cunt.
>
> The koos entity has no decency.
>
> The koos entity steals circuit diagrams for e-meters with no recognition and
> posts them on its web site.
>
> The Koos entity is a psychotic babbling piece of shit.
>
> The Koos entity wouldn't get my responses if the babbling idiot didn't change
> its address.
>
> I have the Koos entity killfiled.
>
> Every time Koos thing changes its address then it gets a posting from me say
> what a babbling idiot it is. Then I make a new KF entry.
>
> --
>
> Ralph Hilton
> http://Ralph.Hilton.org
Ralph Hilton
wrote:
>There is not one bit of Ralph Hilton talking in his post
> quoted below, as is not difficult to see.
> It is only L. Ron Hubbard speaking through Ralph Hilton.
Koos - how do you reconcile that I can talk to you qute rationally?
Hubbard hasn't talked to me for years. Last time we conversed in person was
1975.
I didn't really like him too much - I thought he'd come up with a lot of bright
ideas but no way was I going to be a puppet for his speech.
>(It's the same with other similar posters who also post
> complete gibberish without any sense at all: They are
> completely overwhelmed by L. Ron Hubbard in this and
> earlier lifetimes, and they just execute the intentions, the
> very insane, violently insane intentions of L. Ron Hubbard,
> which mainly are and always have been to destroy life
> forever and perfectly.)
Koos - cool it! Very few here were overwhelmed by Hubbard.
If you were indicating correct items then you would get vgi's.
Please notice that most of your indications do not get good indicators from the
majority.
>So you have to forgive these guys and girls: They have not
> the faintest idea that they are not talking for themselves.
Or the Ambassador for Mankind has failed to indicate the corect items?
>The only way I know of that you can help them is to tell them
> that they are being zombies to the being L. Ron Hubbard and
> ask them 'Why are you a zombie to the being L. Ron Hubbard'.
>
>A suggested handling is:
>
> The following questions are doing and have done miracles in
> defense against L. Ron Hubbard:
>
> 1. What about yourself has L. Ron Hubbard prevented
> you from perceiving?
> (repetitive question)
sfa
> 2. What about the future has L. Ron Hubbard prevented
> you from perceiving?
> (repetitive question)
sfa
> 3. What about the future is L. Ron Hubbard preventing
> you from perceiving?
> (repetitive question)
sfa
>
> - Answers to question 1., for instance:
>
> Your good intentions, yourself.
you are violating the auditors code wth evaluation as to how the pc should
answer.
>
> - Answers to question 2. and 3, for instance:
>
> Anything about your future, about the future of others,
> and any mechanisms (like statistics, his pretended goals
> for Mankind, etc.) that made you believe you were
> looking at the future while you or others were tricked
> into NOT looking at the ACTUAL true future for yourself,
> or for others, which he ACTUALLY creates or created.
>
>
> Your purpose for Mankind is
> "Freedom from L. Ron Hubbard",
> for everyone.
Most people never heard of him.
Life is in you today -let go of the yesterdays and create your tomorrow.
Dave Bird
<Koos....@Trenite.de> writes
>There is not one bit of Ralph Hilton talking in his post
> quoted below, as is not difficult to see.
> It is only L. Ron Hubbard speaking through Ralph Hilton.
Really? Ralph is quite small and slim. It would
be quite hard to fit a big fat lump like Hubbard
inside him.
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Rob Clark
<Koos....@Trenite.de> wrote:
>The task is to get people out of all the universes that
> they (or you) have in common with L. Ron Hubbard:
> Times of him having absorbed them (or you) after torturing
> them (or you), or
> of tricking them (or you) into being an Implanter [an
> Implanter is forcing false awarenesses onto people], or
> of seducing them (or you) into his sex- and
> admiration-universe (with the beings David Miscavige and
> Richard Reiss) and keeping you there "comfortably" and
> "cozy" and unaware of your good intentions and unaware of
> your abilities and unaware of your friends, unaware of
> reality.
hey, do you have any more on the sex-universes of miscavige, reiss and
hubbard? that would seem to warrant a whole session!
even koos knows grady is right.
rob
Koos Nolst Trenite
> that I [now] can talk to you quite rationally?
I did say how (you got out of some of Hubbard's space) and
you are proving my point now.
I know this phenomenon from people whom I get out of L. Ron
Hubbard's hate-universe:
Within a second they are, from violently institutional
or even catatonic, suddenly sane and entirely rational.
(If I would get Dave Bird or Tilman Hausherr or Christine
Norstrand out of L. Ron Hubbard's hate-universe - sorry,
I forgot Russel Shaw and his alter-egos - they suddenly
would be sane, and rational, and look at themselves as
they really are, and they would again remember, and want
to execute their good intentions.)
The task is to get people out of all the universes that
they (or you) have in common with L. Ron Hubbard:
Times of him having absorbed them (or you) after torturing
them (or you), or
of tricking them (or you) into being an Implanter [an
Implanter is forcing false awarenesses onto people], or
of seducing them (or you) into his sex- and
admiration-universe (with the beings David Miscavige and
Richard Reiss) and keeping you there "comfortably" and
"cozy" and unaware of your good intentions and unaware of
your abilities and unaware of your friends, unaware of
reality.
But probably the biggest impact on you - seen from your
reaction then, recently when we pointed it out and you
felt the world suddenly getting lighter - is the
insect-universe that L. Ron Hubbard is stuck in and which
he forces onto many people ("life is suffering", "life is
ugly", "life consists of overwhelming others", etc.) of
which L. Ron Hubbard mentions what he calls the Fifth
Invader Force invading Earth. (Hubbard "wisely" omits to
mention that he was leading the expedition of insects to
subdue and destroy Earth's population, to my present
knowledge - Hubbard is a very, very "wise" man, isn't
he.)
Koos Nolst Trenite - Ambassador for Mankind
Copyright 1998 by Koos Nolst Trenite
Library of Ambassador for Mankind:
http://AmbassadorForMankind.org
Personal Web-page: http://ArtOrg.com
Ralph Hilton wrote on Sat, 10 Oct 1998 05:34:10 GMT:
>
> On Fri, 09 Oct 1998 22:58:30 +0100, Koos Nolst Trenite <Koos....@Trenite.de>
> wrote:
>
> >There is not one bit of Ralph Hilton talking in his
> > [previous hate-]post [about Koos], as is not difficult to see.
> > It is only L. Ron Hubbard speaking through Ralph Hilton.
>
> Koos - how do you reconcile that I can talk to you qute rationally?
>
> Hubbard hasn't talked to me for years. Last time we conversed in person was
> 1975.
>
> I didn't really like him too much - I thought he'd come up with a lot of bright
> ideas but no way was I going to be a puppet for his speech.
>
> >(It's the same with other similar posters who also post
> > complete gibberish without any sense at all: They are
> > completely overwhelmed by L. Ron Hubbard in this and
> > earlier lifetimes, and they just execute the intentions, the
> > very insane, violently insane intentions of L. Ron Hubbard,
> > which mainly are and always have been to destroy life
> > forever and perfectly.)
>
> Koos - cool it! Very few here were overwhelmed by Hubbard.
(...) [to be answered later]
> Ralph Hilton
> http://Ralph.Hilton.org