Solar powered cement mixers
Drew Cutter
Gěmměe Bobbie
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ptaylor
Solar powered? Humm.. I dunno..
Maybe you could,uhm, "adapt" a 12/24V washing machine/dryer or
something? (I assume they'd have a decent sized DC motor in there..)
I wouldn't try mixing a large load in it..
I know they make portable gas powered mixers..Dunno where to get
one,other than the local equipment rental place.
Drew Cutter
ptaylor
Got alot of batts/PV panels?
Get a large inverter,and use an electric one..?
Drew Cutter
gulffisher
has a 1/4 hp motor on it and even though I have never operated it off
one of my inverters. I know it would just fine. the power to operate
the mixer is not all that large. You can get a good cheap inverter from
harbor freight for $80 for a 1200 watt unit. It would do what you
want.
Offgridman
Steve Spence
that 1/4 hp motor. Put an amp meter on it (clampon is fine) lock the
rotor shaft, and see what it draws. A 2500 watt unit with 5000 watt
surge might handle it just fine. $269 at BJ's wholesale, if that motor
is happy on MSW. Our 1/2 hp water pump works ok on this inverter.
Steve Spence
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Drew Cutter wrote:
> Thanks . The next challenge is ebay. I know someone in Africa that use
> wind power / solar for all his needs. 30 mph winds during the day and
> 60 at night. He's gotten the natives to switch from palm tree (mud) to
> lime stone for new homes. Using cement for building new homes ,etc.
> Though i would give him a hand in technology stuff to help his job a
> little bit easier. Is their battery buyer guide for solar or
> wind power ? I got to send the new battery dry to him . 5 year life span.
>
> Steve Spence wrote:
>
>> Yes. Lets say your 1/4 hp motor needs to run for 4 hours. 1hp = 746
>> watts, so 746 / 4 = 187 watts or so. Lets call it 250 for arguments
>> sake. 250 watts * 4 hours = 1000 watthours. Double that for a 50% DOD,
>> and add 50% for Mr. Peukert, and a 3000 watt hour battery pack might
>> do you. What is a 3000 wh pack, you ask? Well, batteries are actually
>> sold in amp hours (ah), so 3000wh's / 12vdc = 250ah, so 3 walmart type
>> 27 115 ah batteries at $55 each, plus a BJ's Wholesale 2500 watt AC
>> Delco Inverter for $269 would put you in the ballpark.
>>
>> Steve Spence
>> Dir., Green Trust
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>>
>> Drew Cutter wrote:
>>
>>> Question is it possible to set up a cement mixer that you don't have
>>> to be tied to a cord (tied into the wind or solar for direct power )?
>>> Could you some how put a deep cycle battery and an inverter on (Wheel
>>> barrow style - cement mixer) , then plug the cord into the
>>> "inverter". - Struggling with the lingo . newbie
Drew Cutter
Drew Cutter
wind power / solar for all his needs. 30 mph winds during the day and
60 at night. He's gotten the natives to switch from palm tree (mud) to
lime stone for new homes. Using cement for building new homes ,etc.
Though i would give him a hand in technology stuff to help his job a
little bit easier. Is their battery buyer guide for solar or
wind power ? I got to send the new battery dry to him . 5 year life span.
Steve Spence wrote:
> Yes. Lets say your 1/4 hp motor needs to run for 4 hours. 1hp = 746
> watts, so 746 / 4 = 187 watts or so. Lets call it 250 for arguments
> sake. 250 watts * 4 hours = 1000 watthours. Double that for a 50% DOD,
> and add 50% for Mr. Peukert, and a 3000 watt hour battery pack might do
> you. What is a 3000 wh pack, you ask? Well, batteries are actually sold
> in amp hours (ah), so 3000wh's / 12vdc = 250ah, so 3 walmart type 27 115
> ah batteries at $55 each, plus a BJ's Wholesale 2500 watt AC Delco
> Inverter for $269 would put you in the ballpark.
>
> Steve Spence
> Dir., Green Trust
> http://www.green-trust.org
>
> Contributing Editor
> http://www.off-grid.net
> http://www.rebelwolf.com/essn.html
>
> Drew Cutter wrote:
>
>> Question is it possible to set up a cement mixer that you don't have
>> to be tied to a cord (tied into the wind or solar for direct power )?
>> Could you some how put a deep cycle battery and an inverter on (Wheel
>> barrow style - cement mixer) , then plug the cord into the "inverter".
>> - Struggling with the lingo . newbie
>>
>> Steve Spence wrote:
>>
Steve Spence
watts, so 746 / 4 = 187 watts or so. Lets call it 250 for arguments
sake. 250 watts * 4 hours = 1000 watthours. Double that for a 50% DOD,
and add 50% for Mr. Peukert, and a 3000 watt hour battery pack might do
you. What is a 3000 wh pack, you ask? Well, batteries are actually sold
in amp hours (ah), so 3000wh's / 12vdc = 250ah, so 3 walmart type 27 115
ah batteries at $55 each, plus a BJ's Wholesale 2500 watt AC Delco
Inverter for $269 would put you in the ballpark.
Steve Spence
Dir., Green Trust
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Contributing Editor
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Drew Cutter wrote:
> Question is it possible to set up a cement mixer that you don't have to
> be tied to a cord (tied into the wind or solar for direct power )? Could
> you some how put a deep cycle battery and an inverter on (Wheel barrow
> style - cement mixer) , then plug the cord into the "inverter". -
> Struggling with the lingo . newbie
>
> Steve Spence wrote:
>
Steve Spence
Sine Wave, but what do they know.
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Drew Cutter
be tied to a cord (tied into the wind or solar for direct power )? Could
you some how put a deep cycle battery and an inverter on (Wheel barrow
style - cement mixer) , then plug the cord into the "inverter". -
Struggling with the lingo . newbie
Gěmměe Bobbie
Can lead acid be discharged...drained and sent successfully and then
refilled and charged at the other end or how would that be done?
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ptaylor
> How big is a larger inverter ? cost ?
Sorta depends on the power needs of the mixer,I'd assume they'd use a
fair amount of power (1/2HP motor? I dunno,never used one.)
So you'd need an inverter capable of whatever the mixer needs,plus some
more,for "reserves".The motor will draw a 'peak' when it first starts
spinning,and you don't want the inverter to switch off before it even
starts up!
Cost will depened on size,and wether it's sine/modified sine
(square,actually) wave. I'd think the motor would run okay on a
modified-sine(square) wave inverter,but a pure sine wave inverter might
be more efficient,and heat up the motor less...
I'm not sure of the specifics here,but I do know that sine wave
inverters cost more.
Then you'll need enough battery power to run the load of the mixer,for
however long you'll be mixing cement.
And hopefully you'll have enough solar(hydro/wind,etc) power to help out
during the day,and recharge the batteries inbetween mixing,etc.
I'm not sure of the nitty-gritty details and figures,but I'm sure one of
the more experienced guys could help you with that stuff.
I'm still fairly new to the solar/alternative energy thing also.
Another of my wacky ideas..
Are you after "solar" (ie; just sun-powered) or 'Photovoltaic' (electric
solar panels) ?
Perhaps you could setup a reflector to heat water,and devise a
steam-powered mixer?.. (something like a "sunflower" reflector/heater?)
Wonder if anyone makes anything like that. Hmm..
Like I said,another of my wacky ideas.. ;-)
ptaylor
> Weight may be the cost factor.
>
> Can lead acid be discharged...drained and sent successfully and then
> refilled and charged at the other end or how would that be done?
>
I think it can be done..
Can they get acid in Africa easily?
I wonder if you could talk to a manufacturer,and buy dry
batteries,perhaps that would be better than draining/refilling?
Hmm..you might have to charge them under a watchful-eye to "form" the
plates (oxides) after you fill them,but that shouldn't be too hard..
(I think they usually do that at the factory,after the fill them.)
I dunno.
Gěmměe Bobbie
acid in the batteries.
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> the acid is only a small percentage of the weight.
>
> He should be able to buy concorde batteries in-continent, and save on
> the shipping.
>
> Steve Spence
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> My understanding is that acid is not hard to get.
Steve Spence
He should be able to buy concorde batteries in-continent, and save on
the shipping.
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Gěmměe Bobbie
oscilligraphed)
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Gěmměe Bobbie wrote:
> The shipper may not want to even handle "dangerous goods" for any price with
> acid in the batteries.
>
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>
>>the acid is only a small percentage of the weight.
>>
>>He should be able to buy concorde batteries in-continent, and save on
>>the shipping.
>>
>>Steve Spence
>>Dir., Green Trust
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>>
Steve Spence
(187watts) at locked rotor, might pull 187 * 8, or 1500 watts max.
1500 watts / 120vac = 12.5 amps
1500 watts / 220vac = 6.8 amps
1500 watts / 12vdc = 125 amps
I wonder where your 35 amps came from?
BTW, a 1/4 hp condenser fan motor in a a/c unit has a full load amps
rated load of 1.12 amps, but locked rotor amps of 2.38 on single phase
220vac.
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andre...@yahoo.com
alternators) off old cars, trucks, or tractors they make good motors
for this kind of thing. Two of them should be good for a 1/4 - 1/3 HP
running off 12 volt batteries, if they get hot just dump some water on
them.
_______________
Andre' B.
Gěmměe Bobbie
USanians will dream up next...LOL
I guess you were talking 220v AC motor here.
OK... 120 vAC +/- 2 vAC sinesoidial waveform, measured less than 0.5%
distortion of any kind, using a 1/10 current shunt to measure using
Tectronic dual channel recording oscilliscope, switched with a copper blade,
spring loaded, snap action, open air switch. The source was via a 300 kVA
4.9% impedance, delta wye transformer from a 14kV 3000A dual fed bus by two
33MVA transformers from two 115kV transmission line systems = Jones Scheme.
14.2 % impedance at middle tap, reverse impedance tapchanger wound, ANSI
standard OFAF cooling.
No voltage sag was noticed due to the less than 100 m 500MCM copper
conductors feeding the building and the neutral connected to the massive <2
ohm ground grid in parallel with the neutral conductor returning to the
stations service transformers.
The 35 amperes was calculated by IR drop from the shunt mesaurement standard
tracable to the NBS calibration labs within the previous 12 months.
BTW Watts / AC voltage does not equate to any amps. Just plain bad physics.
Also
Locked rotor current depnds on many factors. What type of motor? split
phase, cap run, cap start, pole count, etc.. etc...
We measured a typical induction type furnace motor 1/4 horsepower used in
most places in N. America. It was tossed years ago so I couldn't tell you
the brand of manufacturer.
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Gěmměe Bobbie
"special" or "dangerous".
Check with shipping experts to be sure.
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wmbjk
<no...@spamin.all> wrote:
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>> Hence the need for AGM's. They can be shipped by air.
>I doubt AGM would matter, They contain acid and would be considered
>"special" or "dangerous".
Sounds conclusive, perhaps even helpful. But wait....
>Check with shipping experts to be sure.
IOW, even *you* don't value your opinion.
http://www.dcbattery.com/lifeline_agm.html "Unrestricted D.O.T.
Shipping: Lifeline batteries are not restricted by air or any other
means of transportation. They are classified as non-dangerous, shipped
fully charged, and do not have corrosive labels on their shipping
cartons. Lifeline batteries have been tested by an independent
laboratory and passed D.O.T. shipping requirements for hazardous
materials, 49 CFR Section 173.159. There are no "UN" labels required.
(The "UN" label marks a product as hazardous material)"
Wayne
Gěmměe Bobbie
Does Africa care if you put a DOT on it? How big doe the DOT have to be?
It's $7 / kG insdie N. America. You know what a kG is, do ya'll?
Have ya'll ever been outside Macon county or is it the hills?
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> On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:24:54 -0500, "Gìmmìe Bobbie"
Bill Kaszeta / Photovoltaic Resources
>On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:24:54 -0500, "Gěmměe Bobbie"
><no...@spamin.all> wrote:
>
>>"Steve Spence" <spe...@green-trust.org> wrote in message
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>>> Hence the need for AGM's. They can be shipped by air.
>
>>I doubt AGM would matter, They contain acid and would be considered
>>"special" or "dangerous".
>
>Sounds conclusive, perhaps even helpful. But wait....
>
>>Check with shipping experts to be sure.
>
>IOW, even *you* don't value your opinion.
>
> http://www.dcbattery.com/lifeline_agm.html "Unrestricted D.O.T.
>Shipping: Lifeline batteries are not restricted by air or any other
>means of transportation. They are classified as non-dangerous, shipped
>fully charged, and do not have corrosive labels on their shipping
You are mostly correct, but the US Department of Transportation (DOT)
does require a 'Non-Spillable Battery' label. I ship a lot of sealed AGM
batteries, some to the mid-east and Central America.
Safety is not the problem, cost of shipping heavy batteries and the time
required for sea shipment (self discharge rates in high termeratures) are
the main problem. What Africa needs is a lower cost of batteries and
lower costs of shipping. There are some very good and reasonably
priced batteries made in South Africa, but they are easier to move to
Europe or the USA than other African locations.
There is also a need to recycle lead acid batteries in Africa, most
are simply discarded and polute the environment.
>cartons. Lifeline batteries have been tested by an independent
>laboratory and passed D.O.T. shipping requirements for hazardous
>materials, 49 CFR Section 173.159. There are no "UN" labels required.
>(The "UN" label marks a product as hazardous material)"
>
>Wayne
>
Bill Kaszeta
Photovoltaic Resources Int'l
Tempe Arizona USA
bi...@pvri-removethis.biz
Steve Spence
what DOT stands for.
idiocy strikes again. what was your momma thinkin?
Steve Spence
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Steve Spence
Steve Spence
220vac). 2200vac is common around the rest of the world. This is an
international group.
I don't know what voltage they use in GB's universe .....
Windsun
">> BTW Watts / AC voltage does not equate to any amps...."
">> Tectronic dual channel recording oscilliscope...."
But I am sure that GB 'really' knows WTH he is talking about.
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> 120vac and 220vac are common in the US (My Air Conditioner in NJ was
> 220vac). 2200vac is common around the rest of the world. This is an
> international group.
>
> I don't know what voltage they use in GB's universe .....
>
> Steve Spence
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>
Steve Spence
funny he doesn't realize the relationship between watts, amps, volts,
and power factor.
he sure likes to pretend he knows what he's talking about.
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Windsun wrote:
> And the correct spelling is "Tektronix"
>
> ">> BTW Watts / AC voltage does not equate to any amps...."
> ">> Tectronic dual channel recording oscilliscope...."
>
> But I am sure that GB 'really' knows WTH he is talking about.
>
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>>120vac and 220vac are common in the US (My Air Conditioner in NJ was
>>220vac). 2200vac is common around the rest of the world. This is an
>>international group.
>>
>>I don't know what voltage they use in GB's universe .....
>>
>>Steve Spence
>>Dir., Green Trust
>>http://www.green-trust.org
>>
>>Contributing Editor
>>http://www.off-grid.net
>>http://www.rebelwolf.com/essn.html
>>
wmbjk
<spe...@green-trust.org> wrote:
<gimmie bob>
>sure likes to pretend he knows what he's talking about.
And he's able to respond to posters *after* he claims to have plonked
them. He must have ESP! Perhaps that's how he comes up with many of
his "facts" as well.
Wayne
tazoar
> And he's able to respond to posters *after* he claims to have plonked
> them. He must have ESP! Perhaps that's how he comes up with many of
> his "facts" as well.
>
> Wayne
I guess you guys all share a brain together? Your IQs don't add up to much
together.
Maybe when you get out of kindergarten you could come back and your momy
will let you type some of the words.
tazoar
Some people just can't read the information they request even when it is
spelled out for them.. I had no trouble reading his answer, although a
little long winded.
You want to call yourself a "Contributing Editor"?. Where do morons like you
get your pipe dreams from?
What an idiot.
m II
> idiocy strikes again. what was your momma thinkin?
She wasn't. Gymmie's older brother 'Taz' got her in the family way while she was
passed out. The inbreeding combined with the foetal alcohol syndrome certainly
shows.
mike
John Bengi
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Quite funny since Taz is your alter ego according to many other newsgroups.
wmbjk
wrote:
>"m II" <No...@this.time> wrote in message news:zkN0e.3808$x8.845@edtnps90...
>Gymmie's older brother 'Taz' got her in the family way while
>she was
>> passed out. The inbreeding combined with the foetal alcohol syndrome
>certainly shows.
>>
>> mike
>Quite funny since Taz is your alter ego according to many other newsgroups.
Two sock puppets in the same day in the same thread Gimmie? Good
thinkin', nobody will be able to see through such a brilliant debating
technique. Your ISP must be really hard up if they can't do without
your 15 bucks a month.
Wayne
John Bengi
Isn't this a Photovoltaic NG? I think I turned into the kindergarten group
by mistake. I see you are the teacher here.
wmbjk
wrote:
>
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>> Two sock puppets in the same day in the same thread Gimmie? Good
>> thinkin', nobody will be able to see through such a brilliant debating
>> technique. Your ISP must be really hard up if they can't do without
>> your 15 bucks a month.
>>
>> Wayne
>Isn't this a Photovoltaic NG?
Normally it is, but lately it's been the "how goofy can Gimmie get"
NG.
>and I think I turned into the kindergarten group
>by mistake. I see you are the teacher here.
The teacher has a couple of questions for you.... Given that as Gimmie
you claimed that top posting is best, but as Bengi you're bottom
posting, can we expect the two of you to duke it out? Is there room on
that short bus for all of your personalities?
Wayne
John Bengi
I guess I was wrong. You seem to be one of the pupils here.
wmbjk
wrote:
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>> Two sock puppets in the same day in the same thread Gimmie? Good
>> thinkin', nobody will be able to see through such a brilliant debating
>> technique. Your ISP must be really hard up if they can't do without
>> your 15 bucks a month.
>>
>> Wayne
>Isn't this a Photovoltaic NG?
Normally it is, but lately it's been the "how goofy can Gimmie get"
NG.
>and I think I turned into the kindergarten group
>by mistake. I see you are the teacher here.
The teacher has a question for you - given that as Gimmie you claimed
that top posting is best, but as Bengi you're bottom posting, can we
expect the two of you to duke it out?
Wayne
wmbjk
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>> Hence the need for AGM's. They can be shipped by air.
>I doubt AGM would matter, They contain acid and would be considered
>"special" or "dangerous".
Sounds conclusive, perhaps even helpful. But wait....
>Check with shipping experts to be sure.
IOW, even *you* don't value your opinion.
LectronNuis
Hardly likely. Given past operandi my bet is GimmeButt will
now "interleave". That is about as inventive as he is
capable of in camouflage - given all his knowledge is
contained within the volumes of Popular Mechanics.
IIRC PM does not do an issue on "Building your own Moron".
tater schuld
First, cement has been mixed for years with out the benefit of mechanical
asistance. with the use of a wheel barrow and a shovel. why try to build a
solar powered system for such a thing when manual labor can do the same,
possibly better?
--
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Anthony Matonak
...
> First, cement has been mixed for years with out the benefit of mechanical
> asistance. with the use of a wheel barrow and a shovel. why try to build a
> solar powered system for such a thing when manual labor can do the same,
> possibly better?
I imagine because mechanical assistance is less work. That said, I
suppose an engine powered mixer is best for really remote work and
I wouldn't be a bit surprised if there are any number of PTO mixers
or adapters to hook up to the driven wheels of a truck.
In a pinch, I suppose animal powered mixers could be used.
Anthony
Bruce in Alaska
Steve Spence <ssp...@green-trust.org> wrote:
There was a neighbor of mine who used local rock, sand, and gravel,
mixed with bagged cement, in a wheelbarrow and did a continious poor of
a complete daylight basement and 8ft walls on a 16'X24' cabin. He also
builtin all the mansonry for a double flue chimney with fireplaces in
the basement and first floor. The cabin is built out of local 10"
Spruce logs, set in place with a ginpole derrick, block & Tackle rig
using a local tree as a spar. No electrical devices, were used in any
of the construction.
A Picture of the cabin is on my website <www.99850.net)
Bert Stewart is a one of a kind guy, and this was the last cabin
in a series of cabins that he built over his lifetime. He also
doesn't believe in Gasoline engines, and rowed a dory 5 miles
down the Inlet every week to pick up his mail. One really tough old
bird. All that bagged cement was rowed up the inlet as well.......
Bruce in alaska
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up with current?
I hope you don't tell people that in real life. What a fucking idiot! When
did you ever see a unity power factor synchronous motor? Have you ever even
touched a synchronous motor? Does mommy let you play with mechanical things
when daddy is away? and you even signed the math with your business
information ROFLMFAO.
Hey folks. We gotz a real grade three wiener here!
It takes all kinds to make the world go 'round. SCARY place, this!
"Steve Spence" <spe...@green-trust.org> wrote in message
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> 1500 watts / 120vac = 12.5 amps
> 1500 watts / 220vac = 6.8 amps
> 1500 watts / 12vdc = 125 amps
>
>
>> Steve Spence
> Dir., Green Trust
> http://www.green-trust.org
>
Ptaylor
I think I saw a bit about him on PBS about a week or two ago..
He was a tough old bird indeed..
Bruce in Alaska
Ptaylor <Pta...@nospam.qwest.net> wrote:
> I think I saw a bit about him on PBS about a week or two ago..
> He was a tough old bird indeed..
don't know about PBS....but he is still around and kicking........
his wife passed away this winter, and he now travels around and visits
the kids and grandkids.......
Richard P.
awesome film.
George Ghio
"tater schuld" <tat...@maps.charter.net> wrote:
> I've been reading the replies and find myself a bit confused.
>
> First, cement has been mixed for years with out the benefit of mechanical
> asistance. with the use of a wheel barrow and a shovel. why try to build a
> solar powered system for such a thing when manual labor can do the same,
> possibly better?
The American syndrome.
Stick a motor on it, and if that does not work get a bigger motor.