THE KNOW IT ALL LIBBYS, Just CANNOT ANSWER THIS QUESTION
ViperSpit
APPARENTLY, B.O. said in his "TIMEFRAME" campaign PROMISE that it would be 6
MONTHS.
SEVEN MONTHS LATER, WE'RE STILL THERE ............
HEH HEH,
Spit
Ron
.
Try 16 months not 6, and Iraq not Afghanistan.
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/jul/04/nation/na-campaign4
http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed2/idUSL198009020080719
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/22/us/politics/22prexy.html
RO
cop welfare
you're antiwar?
war on terrorism never ends.
you know that.
Phlip
We will be in Afghanistan either forever, or as long as the Soviet
Union was there. If you catch my drift.
In the blame game, lots of early fault lies with Jimmy Carter (and his
CIA). When the Soviets made a grab for both oil and a warm-water port,
Jimmy heroically opposed them, in true Cold War style, by interfering
with Afghans to start breeding a proxy army.
His meddling led to Afghans killing all their own moderates - people
who "collaborated" with the Soviets. And that, naturally, left the
country full of extremists...
Phlip
No he ain't.
> war on terrorism never ends.
The war on _some_ terrorism never ends.
When we or our allies do it, it's okay.
James Of Tucson
> > Try 16 months not 6, and Iraq not Afghanistan.
>
> We will be in Afghanistan either forever, or as long as the Soviet
> Union was there. If you catch my drift.
>
Afghanistan doesn't have a functional government that people are going
to rise up to defend. There simply isn't much opportunity for
anything like "patriotism" to develop. The indigenous culture of
Afghanistan has been successfully repressed for so long that it is
nonexistent, so there's not going to be an emergence of native
patriotism either.
As for foreign interests, they basically amount to control of the
opium trade (which is a red herring that sensible people who lead
rational governments really don't get as excited about as some would
have us believe) and they want to keep the warring factions in the
region from crossing certain borders. That's it. That's not enough
to justify an endless war. There isn't anything like a "victory
condition" that can be applied to Afghanistan. What would that be?
"The last desperate tribal faction either becomes legitimately
prosperous or else dies?" This is not going to happen, and trying to
make it happen by military means will only make them more desperate.
People with nothing to lose... have nothing to lose.
They shouldn't have blown up the Bamiyan Buddhas OR the Twin Towers.
*us*
that anyone in Afghanistan had anything to do
with the crimes of 9/11.
Phlip
> They shouldn't have blown up the Bamiyan Buddhas OR the Twin Towers.
They may have attacked those peaceful Buddhas, but they sure did NOT
attack the USA on 9/11.
No Afghans were among the hijackers...
> Remember, there's absolutely no real evidence
> that anyone in Afghanistan had anything to do
> with the crimes of 9/11.
Osama bin Laden publicly announced credit for all the other terror
operations that he was then proven to have directed.
He never took credit for 9/11. Maybe he actually changed his modus
operandi, or maybe it surprised him. Or maybe he felt someone higher
than him in the hierarchy deserved the credit.
5147 Dead, 280 since 1/20/09
Like Saudi Prince Abdul, perhaps. I've always wondered at how must Saudi
Arabian involvement was in it. It would explain the curiously muted and
ineffectual administration response.
--
Pay your taxes so the rich don't have to
Ron
.
Re: He never took credit for 9/11.
What? Five YEARS ago Bin Laden took responsibility for 9-11 in
October of 2004. Read the statements he made about it at:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3966817.stm
In which bin Laden stated:
(1) "While I was looking at those destroyed towers in Lebanon, it
occurred to me to punish the
unjust one in a similar manner by destroying towers in the United
States so that it would feel some
of what we felt and to be deterred from killing our children and
women... "
and
(2) "We had agreed with the chief amir [leader - of the 11 September
hijackers] Mohammed Atta
that he should accomplish all the operations within 20 minutes before
Bush and his administration
could take notice."
And further note that Fox News offered the same story:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,137095,00.html
We initially went into Afghanistan to get bin Laden, but Bushie Boy
decided he wasn't that important anymore.
RO
Iarnrod
You mean other than UBL's own admission?
KStahl
Why didn't someone tell that to Bush before he decided to commit
genocide on our own soldiers?
Transition Zone
All big investment has to do is lure wistle-blowers all on board one
plane/building and then
down the whole thing.
Now, let CNN and MSNBC investors try to refute that !!
Transition Zone
What other groups rushed to "admit" involvement?
KStahl
Geez, if all it takes is just claiming something to have it credited to
me, then I'll claim that I was the person who took the virginity of
Brooke Shields, Anna Kournikova, Maria Sharapova, Julia Stiles, Jessica
Beil, Rachel McAdams, Amy Smart, Charlize Theron, Emmy Rosum, Jessica
Alba, Selma Blair, Natalie Portman, Mandy Moore, Amber Tamblyn, Keri
Russell and others that I don't even remember the names of any more.
I'll even claim that I should be lauded as a hero for such
accomplishments. I mean, after all, if all it takes is to just claim
something for it to be true then how can you ever say that I didn't bed
all of those celebrities?
Ron
>
> - Show quoted text -
.
.
Re: I mean, after all, if all it takes is to just claim something for
it to be true then how can you ever say that I didn't bed all of those
celebrities?
Easy. Just ask any one of them if it is true. Ask bin Laden if it's
true. Hint: He answered the question...openly.
I made a claim and gave independent sources of news to back it up,
which I doubt you examined at any length. But you offer no evidence
at all that you bedded those celebs.
And perhaps more importantly to your way of thinking, Bush implicitly
asserted that bin Laden did it. How? The Taliban in Afghanistan was
sheltering bin Laden. We attacked Afghanistan to get at
who? .........BIN LADEN !
Keep trying.
RO
Iarnrod
Exactly. None did except UBL. He's proud he did it and he would cut
off your head if you claimed to his face that he didn't.
Phlip
> opium trade (which is a red herring that sensible people who lead
> rational governments really don't get as excited about as some would
> have us believe)
Opium - drug prohibition - is the heart of the matter. Without the
incredible profits of prohibition, terrorists would have to work for a
living.
Legalize the opium (and use medical cannabis to prevent physical
addictions), and the war on terror disappears in a puff of ... smoke!
And gov'ts "look the other way" because that's part of the profit
chain.
Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names
We are still in Afghanistan because, a couple of years ago, when you
went there on your third tour and left Mrs. Viper in charge back here
-- YOU FUCKED IT UP LIKE HOGAN'S GOAT.
Remember that?
Phlip
> (1) "While I was looking at those destroyed towers in Lebanon, it
> occurred to me to punish the
> unjust one in a similar manner by destroying towers in the United
> States so that it would feel some
> of what we felt and to be deterred from killing our children and
> women... "
>
> and
>
> (2) "We had agreed with the chief amir [leader - of the 11 September
> hijackers] Mohammed Atta
> that he should accomplish all the operations within 20 minutes before
> Bush and his administration
> could take notice."
I may be misremembering, but can you compare those tangential remarks
to the _formal_ press releases or whatever that he released after
operations like his embassy bombings?
(If the question becomes "what did OBL know and when did he know it",
the heat is on in some circles to make sure he's never taken alive,
huh?)
But note I don't personally consider OBL's statements proof of
anything one way or the other...
Phlip
> > > >that anyone in Afghanistan had anything to do
> > > >with the crimes of 9/11.
>
> > >You mean other than UBL's own admission ?
>
> > What other groups rushed to "admit" involvement?
>
> Exactly. None did except UBL. He's proud he did it and he would cut
> off your head if you claimed to his face that he didn't.
Regardless whether UBL actually did it, he already had the motivation
to do it, so of course he hastened to profit from it, afterwards.
He wanted the USA to attack Saudi Arabia's enemies for them. And we
did!
Phlip
Because either Bush was the actual ringleader, or so incompetent that
it makes no difference.
Besides, I thought our soldiers' causalities were distributed among
our entire melting pot, not just from one ethnicity.
Phlip
Uh, no. When you commit treason against your own homeland, it's "for
the greater good", meaning launching the Oil War.
The individual players (including my crooked former CEO, who got
inexplicably invited to a meeting in the WTC on exactly that day) are
just ants on the ground to the UberMan. You target almost no one,
spare almost no one, and let the cards fall where they may.
KStahl
>>- Show quoted text -
>
> .
> .
> Re: I mean, after all, if all it takes is to just claim something for
> it to be true then how can you ever say that I didn't bed all of those
> celebrities?
>
> Easy. Just ask any one of them if it is true. Ask bin Laden if it's
> true. Hint: He answered the question...openly.
>
> I made a claim and gave independent sources of news to back it up,
> which I doubt you examined at any length. But you offer no evidence
> at all that you bedded those celebs.
>
> And perhaps more importantly to your way of thinking, Bush implicitly
> asserted that bin Laden did it. How? The Taliban in Afghanistan was
> sheltering bin Laden. We attacked Afghanistan to get at
> who? .........BIN LADEN !
>
> Keep trying.
>
> RO
I offer my claim. That is quite sufficient and has equal standing with
OBL's claim.
If we went into Afghanistan to get at OBL, why was the mission not
successful?
KStahl
When did race come into this conversation? I spoke of our soldiers -
they represent many different races and nationalities. The uniform is
the same color no matter who wears it. But Bush put our troops in harms
way for his own personal reasons that had nothing to do with our
national defense and now many of them are dead due to his vendetta.
Al Dykes
Becuase we didn't have enough troops.
--
Al Dykes
News is something someone wants to suppress, everything else is advertising.
- Lord Northcliffe, publisher of the Daily Mail
Iarnrod
Actually no, it does not at all. It is in no way comparable.
> If we went into Afghanistan to get at OBL, why was the mission not
> successful?
Bush led it. Do you really have to be made to understand how
incompetent that fuckin' AWOL boob was?
Phlip
> In article <0dDnm.39708$mw4.10...@news.usenetserver.com>,
> >If we went into Afghanistan to get at OBL, why was the mission not
> >successful?
>
> Becuase we didn't have enough troops.
The commanders on the ground were like, "Uh, we can hear OBL's
personal cell phone, apologizing to his lieutenants for their imminent
capture. Can we bring one more division in from Kabul - they are
already mobilized - to close the box?
"We only needed a division, not a whole army."
Washington was like, "Hang tight for now. We will get back to you
about that, okay?"
(Or how about "Okay, your ass is covered. Beat it!")
Al Dykes
Phlip <phli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Sep 2, 5:44=A0pm, ady...@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>> In article <0dDnm.39708$mw4.10...@news.usenetserver.com>,
>
>> >If we went into Afghanistan to get at OBL, why was the mission not
>> >successful?
>>
>> Becuase we didn't have enough troops.
>
>The commanders on the ground were like, "Uh, we can hear OBL's
>personal cell phone, apologizing to his lieutenants for their imminent
>capture. Can we bring one more division in from Kabul - they are
>already mobilized - to close the box?
And there was no division to mobilize.
Actually, the commander on the scene wanted helicopters and artillery
and Rummy had kept these to a minimum in a well-intended but flawed
attempt to keep an "Afghan face" on the anti-Taliban effort. Rummy
also wanted Afghans to be the sharp point in the attack force and even
if they wanted to, they just couldn't move fast enough.
Sources:
Kill Bin Laden: A Delta Force Commander's Account of the Hunt for
the World's Most Wanted Man: Dalton Fury
And many other places.
Phlip
> Actually, the commander on the scene wanted helicopters and artillery
> and Rummy had kept these to a minimum in a well-intended but flawed
> attempt to keep an "Afghan face" on the anti-Taliban effort. Rummy
> also wanted Afghans to be the sharp point in the attack force and even
> if they wanted to, they just couldn't move fast enough.
You just described Rummy's fig leaf for denying our own troops doing
what they do best - instant transport to a precise geographical
location, then pounding the shit out of it. Do you think these guys
don't think of fig leafs for their "mistakes"??
One little operation, closing the box around OBL's _known_ location,
would not have unraveled our deals with Afghanistan's other
terrorists...
Ron
>
> - Show quoted text -
.
.
and equipment out of Afghanistan and directed them to Iraq to quash
Saddam and his non-existent WMDs.
Remember?
RO
Phlip
> Bush declared bin Laden "not that important anymore" and pulled troops
> and equipment out of Afghanistan and directed them to Iraq to quash
> Saddam and his non-existent WMDs.
>
> Remember?
Yeah, and part of the timing was making sure OBL was safely over the
border into Pakistan. Apparently it was number 3 on the list that OBL
wanted Bush to sack, so it could wait!
Let's put OBL into Canada next. Teach those guys to have better HC
than us!
Oh, look! Now he's in North Korea! Fiddling with the nuke equipment
that we GAVE THEM!
Phlip
> Bush declared bin Laden "not that important anymore" and pulled troops
> and equipment out of Afghanistan and directed them to Iraq to quash
> Saddam and his non-existent WMDs.
>
> Remember?
Yeah, and part of the timing was making sure OBL was safely over the
Phlip
> >>Why didn't someone tell that to Bush before he decided to commit
> >>genocide on our own soldiers?
>
> > Because either Bush was the actual ringleader, or so incompetent that
> > it makes no difference.
>
> > Besides, I thought our soldiers' causalities were distributed among
> > our entire melting pot, not just from one ethnicity.
>
> When did race come into this conversation? I spoke of our soldiers -
> they represent many different races and nationalities. The uniform is
> the same color no matter who wears it. But Bush put our troops in harms
> way for his own personal reasons that had nothing to do with our
> national defense and now many of them are dead due to his vendetta.
Right. Betrayal and atrocity, but not "genocide".
And we also used ethnic cleansing, during "The Surge", to "pacify"
Baghdad. Our troops were disarming selected residents - of the
Shi'ites, who we had previously claimed to defend. Then the Sunnis
would move in at night and kill or evict them.
Their survivors are in refugee camps, now. That's why much of Baghdad
is now "peaceful".
(BTW, everyone should thank ViperSpit for yet another great topic.
Expecting Obama to unravel this situation, the biggest clusterfuck in
US history, miiight take longer than the people who caused it would
like!)
KStahl
You spelled that wrong - it should be spelled "cannon fodder".
KStahl
Don't get me wrong - I blame the entire failure in Iraq and Afghanistan
on the shrub's incompetence. The biggest error was his decision to
pursue a private vendetta instead of actually doing his job and
protecting the U.S. from a terrorist attack.
*us*
>Various libruls wrote:
>
>> They shouldn't have blown up the Bamiyan Buddhas OR the Twin Towers.
>
>They may have attacked those peaceful Buddhas, but they sure did NOT
>attack the USA on 9/11.
>
>No Afghans were among the hijackers...
>
>> Remember, there's absolutely no real evidence
>> that anyone in Afghanistan had anything to do
>> with the crimes of 9/11.
>
>Osama bin Laden publicly announced credit for all the other terror
>operations that he was then proven to have directed.
>
>He never took credit for 9/11. Maybe he actually changed his modus
>operandi, or maybe it surprised him. Or maybe he felt someone higher
>than him in the hierarchy deserved the credit.
Even Tim Osman couldn't take the credit.
*us*
<ze...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:39:31 -0700, Phlip wrote:
>
>> Various libruls wrote:
>>
>>> They shouldn't have blown up the Bamiyan Buddhas OR the Twin Towers.
>>
>> They may have attacked those peaceful Buddhas, but they sure did NOT
>> attack the USA on 9/11.
>>
>> No Afghans were among the hijackers...
>>
>>> Remember, there's absolutely no real evidence that anyone in
>>> Afghanistan had anything to do with the crimes of 9/11.
>>
>> Osama bin Laden publicly announced credit for all the other terror
>> operations that he was then proven to have directed.
>>
>> He never took credit for 9/11. Maybe he actually changed his modus
>> operandi, or maybe it surprised him. Or maybe he felt someone higher
>> than him in the hierarchy deserved the credit.
>
>Like Saudi Prince Abdul, perhaps. I've always wondered at how must Saudi
>Arabian involvement was in it. It would explain the curiously muted and
>ineffectual administration response.
Bush and Cheney were quite prepared, and immediately
used 9/11 for their own fun and profit.
They're still making money on it.
*us*
>On Sep 2, 10:39�am, Phlip <phlip2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Various libruls wrote:
>> > They shouldn't have blown up the Bamiyan Buddhas OR the Twin Towers.
>>
>> They may have attacked those peaceful Buddhas, but they sure did NOT
>> attack the USA on 9/11.
>>
>> No Afghans were among the hijackers...
>>
>> > Remember, there's absolutely no real evidence
>> > that anyone in Afghanistan had anything to do
>> > with the crimes of 9/11.
>>
>> Osama bin Laden publicly announced credit for all the other terror
>> operations that he was then proven to have directed.
>>
>> He never took credit for 9/11. Maybe he actually changed his modus
>> operandi, or maybe it surprised him. Or maybe he felt someone higher
>> than him in the hierarchy deserved the credit.
>.
>.
>Re: He never took credit for 9/11.
In fact, he immediately denied, directly, any part in it.
*us*
to Usama bin Ladin in an interview with the Pakistani newspaper Ummat. Usama bin Ladin
went on to suggest that Jews or US secret services were behind the attacks"
*us*
Laden said, "The U.S. government has consistently blamed me for being behind every
occasion its enemies attack it.
"I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to
have been planned by people for personal reasons," bin Laden's statement said."
*us*
Good points.
Al Dykes
Cherrypick much?
Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda Updated 5/22/09
http://911links.webs.com/binLaden.htm
Table Of Contents
[1] NEWS (Jan 2001) Some See U.S. as Terrorists' Next Big Target
[2] (Jan 2001) ObL Tells Reporter that US attacks are comming.
[3] New York Times reports about al Queda about 89 times prior to 9/11/2001
[4] bin Laden quotes
[5] Al Qaeda: Statements and Evolving Ideology
[6] 1996: bin Laden declares war on America.
[7] ObL attacks on America prior to 2001 listed
[8] Specific attack warnings
[9] Bibliography
[10] 1998 ObL Fatwa calling for attack on the US
[11] Complete 9/11 timeline
[12] Answer to "bin Laden not wanted by FBI"
[13] US Government "Wanted" poster for biin Ladem
*us*
to Usama bin Ladin in an interview with the Pakistani newspaper Ummat. Usama bin Ladin
went on to suggest that Jews or US secret services were behind the attacks"
http://911review.com/articles/usamah/khilafah.html
See also:
Phlip
> "The Al-Qaidah group had nothing to do with the 11 September attacks on the USA, according
> to Usama bin Ladin in an interview with the Pakistani newspaper Ummat. Usama bin Ladin
> went on to suggest that Jews or US secret services were behind the attacks"
That's Truthism if it shields the Saudis.
Really, folks - this part is known. The money trail - the part the MSM
almost never talks about - leads straight into Arabia. And OBL has
never stopped defending Saudi Arabia, even when he appears to attack
them.
Al Dykes
Iarnrod
But he has admitted it.
*us*
>On Sep 4, 6:01�am, * US * wrote:
>
>> "The Al-Qaidah group had nothing to do with the 11 September attacks on the USA, according
>> to Usama bin Ladin in an interview with the Pakistani newspaper Ummat. Usama bin Ladin
>> went on to suggest that Jews or US secret services were behind the attacks"
>
>That's Truthism if it shields the Saudis.
There's also the way Bush hustled the bin Ladens out of the USA.
He'd forced the FBI to stop investigating them when he took office.
>Really, folks - this part is known. The money trail - the part the MSM
>almost never talks about - leads straight into Arabia. And OBL has
>never stopped defending Saudi Arabia, even when he appears to attack
>them.
There's no way the Saudis could've pulled off 9/11 without Bush/Cheney.
*us*
to Usama bin Ladin in an interview with the Pakistani newspaper Ummat. Usama bin Ladin
went on to suggest that Jews or US secret services were behind the attacks"
http://911review.com/articles/usamah/khilafah.html
See also:
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/
Notice that even the most desperate neocon pawn can't dispute these facts.
*us*
>But he has admitted it.
Faked videos don't count. That Chihuahua at Taco Bell couldn't really talk.
Al Dykes
<Ame...@USA.now> wrote:
>On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 06:23:11 -0700 (PDT), Phlip <phli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sep 4, 6:01�am, * US * wrote:
>>
>>> "The Al-Qaidah group had nothing to do with the 11 September attacks on the USA, according
>>> to Usama bin Ladin in an interview with the Pakistani newspaper Ummat. Usama bin Ladin
>>> went on to suggest that Jews or US secret services were behind the attacks"
>>
>>That's Truthism if it shields the Saudis.
>
>There's also the way Bush hustled the bin Ladens out of the USA.
>
>He'd forced the FBI to stop investigating them when he took office.
The FBI was all over the US branch of the bin Laden family in the late
90s becuase Osama was killing Americans in Africa and finally in Yemen
by bombing the USS Cole. The FBI repeatedly looked at all the family
starting in 1998 right through the fall of 2000. They found no
connections with Osama.
There was no reason to keep them.
*us*
>On Sep 4, 6:01�am, * US * wrote:
>
>> "The Al-Qaidah group had nothing to do with the 11 September attacks on the USA, according
>> to Usama bin Ladin in an interview with the Pakistani newspaper Ummat. Usama bin Ladin
>> went on to suggest that Jews or US secret services were behind the attacks"
>
>That's Truthism if it shields the Saudis.
There's also the way Bush hustled the bin Ladens out of the USA.
He'd forced the FBI to stop investigating them when he took office.
http://tvnewslies.org/html/bin_laden_ties.html
>Really, folks - this part is known. The money trail - the part the MSM
>almost never talks about - leads straight into Arabia. And OBL has
>never stopped defending Saudi Arabia, even when he appears to attack
>them.
There's no way the Saudis could've pulled off 9/11 without Bush/Cheney.
Bush/Cheney even made sure pilots were disarmed in June of 2001.
Iarnrod
Of course there is, UBL did it. He's admitted it. What would Bush/
Cheney to do with this.
Iarnrod
> On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 08:46:02 -0700 (PDT),Iarnrod<iarn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >But he has admitted it.
>
> Faked videos don't count.
Not fake. Sorry. Just saying it doesn't make it so.
> That Chihuahua at Taco Bell couldn't really talk.
Are you a born moron or did you have to work hard at it? UBL is not a
chihuahua, He can talk and does and has admitted it.
> http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/
He has subsequently admitted it. He has discussed the how and why of
its planning.
He is responsible for it. There is no way for you around this.
*us*
>... He's admitted it...
You're easily duped by faked video.
There's also the way Bush hustled the bin Ladens out of the USA.
He'd forced the FBI to stop investigating them when he took office.
http://tvnewslies.org/html/bin_laden_ties.html
Bush also made sure that the pilots were disarmed, in July of 2001.
Bush and Cheney are still making money on 9/11.
*us*
>...Just saying it doesn't make it so.
Bush and Cheney lied about 9/11.
On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 08:46:02 -0700 (PDT), Iarnrod <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>But he has admitted it.
Faked videos don't count. That Chihuahua at Taco Bell couldn't really talk.
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/
It'd be good to put ObL on trial, but Bush and Cheney don't want
"Tim Osman" to testify.
Al Dykes
<Ame...@USA.now> wrote:
>On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 12:05:01 -0700 (PDT), Iarnrod <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>... He's admitted it...
>
>You're easily duped by faked video.
>
>There's also the way Bush hustled the bin Ladens out of the USA.
>
>He'd forced the FBI to stop investigating them when he took office.
>
The FBI had been investigating the US branch if the bin Laden family
due to Osama's involvement in the African embassy bombings (Aug 98)
right up to the USS Cole bombing (Oct 2000). The FBI indictment that
names Osama was delivered in Jan 2001.
By 9/2001, the FBI had been looking at the US branch of the family for
two and a half years and found nothing.
*us*
>... He's admitted it...
You're easily duped by faked video.
There's also the way Bush hustled the bin Ladens out of the USA.
He'd forced the FBI to stop investigating them when he took office.
http://tvnewslies.org/html/bin_laden_ties.html
Bush also made sure that the pilots were disarmed, in July of 2001.
Bush and Cheney are still making money on 9/11.
They're the primary beneficiaries of the crime PNAC wanted.
Phlip
> In article <sv57a5l8jtrp4mud11g8c3haplltqv3...@4ax.com>,
> >>... He's admitted it...
>
> >You're easily duped by faked video.
>
> >There's also the way Bush hustled the bin Ladens out of the USA.
>
> >He'd forced the FBI to stop investigating them when he took office.
>
> The FBI had been investigating the US branch if the bin Laden family
> due to Osama's involvement in the African embassy bombings (Aug 98)
> right up to the USS Cole bombing (Oct 2000). The FBI indictment that
> names Osama was delivered in Jan 2001.
>
> By 9/2001, the FBI had been looking at the US branch of the family for
> two and a half years and found nothing.
That is definitely a good reason to downsize that useless FBI team -
AFTER the failed attempt on LAX.
And to whisk that family out of the country, just after 9/11, when no
other planes were allowed to fly!
(And how do you know they found "nothing"? Wouldn't they keep anything
they found classified, and not tip their hand by arresting anyone
lower on the chain of command than OBL?)
Al Dykes
<Ame...@USA.now> wrote:
>On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 12:05:01 -0700 (PDT), Iarnrod <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>... He's admitted it...
>
>You're easily duped by faked video.
Why We know that bin Laden was responsible for 9/11 - Some of the evidence.
Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda Updated 5/22/09
http://911links.webs.com/binLaden.htm
Table Of Contents
[1] NEWS (Jan 2001) Some See U.S. as Terrorists' Next Big Target
[2] (Jan 2001) ObL Tells Reporter that US attacks are comming.
[3] New York Times reports about al Queda about 89 times prior to 9/11/2001
[4] bin Laden quotes
[5] Al Qaeda: Statements and Evolving Ideology
[6] 1996: bin Laden declares war on America.
[7] ObL attacks on America prior to 2001 listed
[8] Specific attack warnings
[9] Bibliography
[10] 1998 ObL Fatwa calling for attack on the US
[11] Complete 9/11 timeline
[12] Answer to "bin Laden not wanted by FBI"
[13] US Government "Wanted" poster for bin Laden
[1] -------------------------------------
NEWS: Some See U.S. as Terrorists' Next Big Target
http://articles.latimes.com/2000/jan/13/news/mn-53626
Bin Laden Is Said to Be at Center of Loose Web
By John-Thor Dahlburg
January 13, 2000 in print edition A-1
...
U.S. and European authorities say that at the center of
this web, which has been loosely spun from the Philippines
to North America, is Saudi militant Osama bin Laden. A
former Afghan moujahedeen, or holy warrior, the 43-year-old
Bin Laden is on the FBI's 10-most-wanted list for allegedly
sponsoring the 1998 bombings of the U.S. embassies in Kenya
and Tanzania that killed 224 people.
In a development indicative of Bin Laden's esteem among his
brothers in arms, after the United States succeeded in obtaining a
U.N. Security Council resolution in October demanding
bin Laden's extradition from Afghanistan, GIA leader Antar Zouabri
issued a letter that condemned the West for persecuting
Islamic militants and that vowed reprisals.
French officials said Ahmed Ressam, an Algerian national arrested
Dec. 14 in Washington state on suspicion of plotting a bombing in
the United States, received his military training at one of Bin Laden's
camps in eastern Afghanistan.
According to the French, the 33-year-old North African belonged to
the "Roubaix gang," a band of armed robbers of Algerian, Bosnian and
French origin who trained in Islamic camps in Bosnia-Herzegovina and
carried out a series of holdups in Belgium and northern France in
early 1996.
Judge Jean-Louis Bruguiere, one of France's top anti-terrorism
investigators, says a flexible, diffuse and worldwide structure
makes Muslim extremism a growing problem that demands more
intense cross-border cooperation.
In the space of one month, the French judge's investigations took
him as far afield as Canada and Australia.
"The Islamic extremist threat is the Internet of terrorism," Bruguiere said.
[2] ---------------------------------------------------------------
June, 2001: ObL Tells London reporter "attacks are coming.
June 21st, 2001: Bakr Atyani, a reporter for Saudi
Arabian owned broadcaster Middle East Broadcasting
Corp. meets with Osama bin Laden and his aides
in a desert area of Afghanistan. According
to Atyani, "Bin Laden seemed happy with the talks
of his aides who said that the coming weeks will
hold important surprises that will target American
and Israeli interests in the world."
June 22nd, 2001: The US State Department
issued a "Worldwide Caution" regarding the risk of a
terrorist attack by extremist groups. It specifically
mentioned groups with links to Bin Laden and his
Al Queda organization as possible sources for the threat.
June 22nd, 2001: US military forces throughout the
Persian Gulf were put on a heightened state of alert.
June 22nd, 2001: A U.S. Marine Corps
contingent in Jordan cut short its training session and
returned to its ships.
June 22nd, 2001:
U.S. 5th Fleet sent its ships out of port in Bahrain.
June 23rd, 2001: Middle East Broadcasting Corp reported
that followers of Bin Laden were planning an attack
on American and Israeli interests within the next few
weeks. Bakr Atyani's interview with Bin Laden is a
featured report.
June 24th: Taliban officials responde
http://archive.democrats.com/view.cfm?id=7743
Described in Bamford [9] Starting on p.16
[3] ---------------------------------------------------------------
"al Queda" was first mentioned in the NY Times on
August 28, 1998 and an estimated 89 times prior to
9/11/2001. A computer at any library can be used
to find all the stories by searching the NYT archives.
[4] -------- bin Laden quotes-----------------------------------
http://iraqwar.org/binladenquotes.htm
[5] ---------------------------------------------------------------
Congressional Research Service
Al Qaeda: Statements and Evolving Ideology
Updated July 9, 2007
Christopher M. Blanchard, Analyst in Middle Eastern Affairs
- http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/terror/RL32759.pdf
...The third and "ultimate objective," according to
Al Adl, (*) "was to prompt [the United States] to come
out of its hole." Al Adl claims that Al Qaeda wanted
to provoke the United States into attacking areas
of the Islamic world associated with the
organization and its affiliates. In doing so, Al Adl
claims, Al Qaeda hoped to make it easier to attack
elements of U.S. power and to build its "credibility
in front of [the Islamic] nation and the
beleaguered people of the world." Al Adl and others have conceded that the attacks
on New York and Washington were not totally
successful, while arguing that the September 11
attack "was enough to prompt the Americans to carry
out the anticipated response" - namely direct military action
within the Islamic world. ...In December 2004, Bin Laden identified the conflict
in Iraq as "a golden and unique opportunity" for
jihadists to engage and defeat the United States,
and he characterized the insurgency in Iraq as the
central battle in a "Third World War, which the
Crusader-Zionist coalition began against the Islamic
nation." 24 (*) Al-Qa'ida Leader Sayf al-Adl OSC Report -
GMP2005060637100, May 21, 2005
[6] ----------------------------------------------------
1966: bin Laden declares war on America http://www.outpost-of-freedom.com/opf980830a.htm
[7] -----------------------------
ObL Early attacks and aid for attacks http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden#Militant_activity
[8] ----------------------------------------
Specific attack warnings
http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&warning_signs:_specific_cases
Spying Blind by Amy Zegart.
Apr 2001, MASSOUD Tells us bin Laden and AQ will attach us "Through Northern Alliance intelligence efforts,
the late commander Massoud gained limited knowledge
regarding the intentions of the Saudi millionaire,
Usama bin Laden and his terrorist organization, al-Qaida,
to perform a terrorist act against the U.S.,
on a scale larger than the 1998 bombing of the U.S.
embassies in Kenya and Tanzania." http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/11/06/massoud.cable/index.html
[9] ------------ Bibliography --------------
Al Qaeda Now - Understanding today's terrorists - Ed. by Greenberg Lots of good ObL quotes
9/11 Comission Report Ch. 6.3
The Commission - The Uncensored History Of The 9/11 Investigation by Shenon, Philip
Messages to the world; The statements of Osama bin Laden translated by Bruce Lawrence
Congressional Report for Congress; Al Qaede: Statements and Evolving Ideology
The Power of Nightmares VIDEO (3 parts)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_of_Nightmares
The Shadow Factory - The Ultra-Secret NSA from 9/11 by Bamford
PBS Nova Spy Factory
Ghost Wars by Cole
The Looming Tower - Wright
The bin Ladens by Cole
Spying Blind by Amy Zegart.
[10] ------------------------------------------------------------
1998 Fatwa calling for war abainst the US
http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a022298fatwaexpands&scale=0#a022298fatwaexpands
http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/980223-fatwa.htm
[11] --------------------------------
Complete 9/11 timeline
http://www.historycommons.org/project.jsp?project=911_project
[12] ---------------------------------------
Answer to "bin Laden not wanted by FBI"
November 6, 2001 the Bush administration handed
such prosecutions over to the DoD and said this
circumvented the 5th ammedment requirement for
indictments
www.usdoj.gov/olc/2001/pub-millcommfinal.pdf
www.commondreams.org/headlines01/1113-07.htm
[13] -----------------------------------------------
http://www.nctc.gov/site/profiles/bin_ladin.html
Usama Bin Ladin is wanted in connection with the
11 September 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center
and the Pentagon and for the 7 August 1998 bombings
of the US Embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and
Nairobi, Kenya. The embassy bombings killed 224 civilians and
wounded more than 5,000 others. Usama Bin Ladin and
other terrorists.specifically Ayman al-Zawahiri, Fazul Abdullah
Mohammed, Fahid Mohammed Ally Msalam, Sheikh Ahmed Salim
Swedan, Abdullah Ahmed Abdullah, Saif al-Adel, Anas al-Liby,
Ahmed Mohamed Hamed Ali, and others already in custody.
are members of al-Qa.ida, the international terrorist network
headed by Bin Ladin.
Phlip
> "The Al-Qaidah group had nothing to do with the 11 September attacks on the USA, according
> to Usama bin Ladin in an interview with the Pakistani newspaper Ummat. Usama bin Ladin
> went on to suggest that Jews or US secret services were behind the attacks"
>
> http://911review.com/articles/usamah/khilafah.html
Is that a Truther site?
Iarnrod
> On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 12:05:01 -0700 (PDT), Iarnrod <iarn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >... He's admitted it...
>
> You're easily duped by faked video.
No, you are easily duped by kkkooks.
> There's also the way Bush hustled the bin Ladens out of the USA.
Get over it. Bush was a fuckin' moron. But UBL admitted doing 9/11.
> He'd forced the FBI to stop investigating them when he took office.
No he didn't.
UBL admitted 9/11.
> Bush also made sure that the pilots were disarmed, in July of 2001.
No he didn't, kook.
> Bush and Cheney are still making money on 9/11.
So fuckin' what? UBL still did it. FACT.
Iarnrod
> On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 12:06:54 -0700 (PDT), Iarnrod <iarn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >...Just saying it doesn't make it so.
>
> Bush and Cheney lied about 9/11.
>
> >But he has admitted it.
>
> Faked videos don't count.
I never said they did. your pronouncement that videos are "fake" when
the contradict you is what doesn't count.
> That Chihuahua at Taco Bell couldn't really talk.
But UBL can and did.
FACT.
*us*
enemies attack it.
"I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to
have been planned by people for personal reasons..."
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/
Bush and Cheney certainly have personal reasons for wanting the
crimes of 9/11 to occur. They did all they could to make sure
the crimes would happen, and they're the primary beneficiaries.
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 12:05:01 -0700 (PDT), Iarnrod <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>... He's admitted it...
You're easily duped by faked video.
There's also the way Bush hustled the bin Ladens out of the USA.
*us*
enemies attack it.
"I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to
have been planned by people for personal reasons..."
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/
Bush and Cheney certainly have personal reasons for wanting the
crimes of 9/11 to occur. They did all they could to make sure
the crimes would happen, and they're the primary beneficiaries.
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 12:05:01 -0700 (PDT), Iarnrod <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>... He's admitted it...
You're easily duped by faked video.
There's also the way Bush hustled the bin Ladens out of the USA.
He'd forced the FBI to stop investigating them when he took office.
http://tvnewslies.org/html/bin_laden_ties.html
Bush also made sure that the pilots were disarmed, in July of 2001.
Bush and Cheney are still making money on 9/11.
They're the primary beneficiaries of the crime PNAC wanted.
On Mon, 7 Sep 2009 11:54:54 -0700 (PDT), Iarnrod <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>...easily duped by kkkooks.
You believe all of the Bush and Cheney lies about 9/11, don't you.
*us*
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 12:06:54 -0700 (PDT), Iarnrod <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>...Just saying it doesn't make it so.
Bush and Cheney lied about 9/11.
On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 08:46:02 -0700 (PDT), Iarnrod <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>But he has admitted it.
Faked videos don't count. That Chihuahua at Taco Bell couldn't really talk.
*us*
The messenger isn't the message.
Phlip
> >> "The Al-Qaidah group had nothing to do with the 11 September attacks on the USA, according
> >> to Usama bin Ladin in an interview with the Pakistani newspaper Ummat. Usama bin Ladin
> >> went on to suggest that Jews or US secret services were behind the attacks"
>
> >>http://911review.com/articles/usamah/khilafah.html
>
> >Is that a Truther site?
>
> The messenger isn't the message.
The definition of a Truther is someone who believes the Saudis did NOT
pull off the (logistical details) of the attack.
So in this case, the message _is_ the messenger. Cherry picking which
lie a liar went with is an example of exonerating the Saudis.
Al Dykes
<Ame...@USA.now> wrote:
>"The U.S. government has consistently blamed me for being behind every occasion its
>enemies attack it.
>
>"I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to
>have been planned by people for personal reasons..."
>
>http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/
>
>Bush and Cheney certainly have personal reasons for wanting the
>crimes of 9/11 to occur. They did all they could to make sure
>the crimes would happen, and they're the primary beneficiaries.
>
>On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 12:05:01 -0700 (PDT), Iarnrod <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>... He's admitted it...
>
>You're easily duped by faked video.
>
>There's also the way Bush hustled the bin Ladens out of the USA.
>
>He'd forced the FBI to stop investigating them when he took office.
The FBI had been investigating the US branch of the bin Laden family
due to Osama's involvement in the African embassy bombings (Aug 98)
right up to the USS Cole bombing (Oct 2000). The FBI indictment that
named Osama and AQ was delivered in Jan 2001. There was no US family
involvement found.
By 9/2001, the FBI had been looking at the US branch of the family for
two and a half years and found nothing.
--
Phlip
> The FBI had been investigating the US branch of the bin Laden family
> due to Osama's involvement in the African embassy bombings (Aug 98)
> right up to the USS Cole bombing (Oct 2000). The FBI indictment that
> named Osama and AQ was delivered in Jan 2001. There was no US family
> involvement found.
>
> By 9/2001, the FBI had been looking at the US branch of the family for
> two and a half years and found nothing.
Do you actually expect a criminal mastermind to farm his odd-jobs out
to family members, living under chronic surveillance?
You are mixing two topics here. Before 9/11, Bush should not have
blocked the FBI's hunt. Part of this hunt was keeping tabs on good
witnesses. The fact that their paperwork did not (yet!) tap those
witnesses is not evidence the hunt was not working.
After 9/11, Bush should _not_ have let those prime witnesses go. We
detained plenty of innocent people because they had the wrong skin
color and weird names - a royal hostage or two would have sent a
message to THE SAUDIS that we were on their case.
However, that's not really the message Bush sent after 9/11 - a
message that we would NOT get even with the PEOPLE WHO PLANNED AND
FINANCED THE ATTACK.
The question whether Bush was surprised on 9/11 is irrelevant. Not
going after the Saudis, after the attack, was the next biggest treason
in US history.
Al Dykes
Phlip <phli...@gmail.com> wrote:
Going after anyone as a nation for the acts of a few is a horrible
idea. The Saudi governement and the bin Laden family had cpmpletely
disowned Osama by 1996.
Did individuals in Saudi help Osama. Sure. Find them and kill them.
Day Brown
> Remember, there's absolutely no real evidence
> that anyone in Afghanistan had anything to do
> with the crimes of 9/11.
Lets start with quo bono.
Whether OBL had anything to do with 911 or not, the PR that he did was
certainly empowering to the Jihadim and an organizing point for what
they think is American Imperialism. Which it may be, but there's also a
global effort to bring them out of the 14th century.
I have a copy of the Mytreyayasamiti Texts in Tocharian A in which
there's a reference to the misogynistic "arrogant Sakyas" who are the
ancestors of the jackass warlords running [if thats the right word] much
of what is now Pakistan and Afghanistan. From the 5th century.
History shows the character of their descendants, and it seems they
certainly would, if they could, do the 911 hit. But even if they did,
these medieval jackasses would have needed modern high tech help.
Which members of the Bush administration, Mossad, and the CIA certainly
had. And again, history suggests there were characters in these
organizations that would have been motivated to promote 911, at the very
least, by turning a blind eye. Of which there are some reports.
Then too, Swiss and other financial analyists report on the curious
movement of assets to take advantage of such an event, not, by any
means, limited to Silverstein. Who, had he insured some delis that had
all been struck in the same day, would have resulted in an immediate
investigation. Which we did not see.
It aint so much that I see so much evidence, but that there's info I
should see that has not been presented that I find curious.
Phlip
> It aint so much that I see so much evidence, but that there's info I
> should see that has not been presented that I find curious.
Google "Daniel Hopsicker" and/or "Grover Norquist".
The actual chain of events has been researched in very thorough detail
- and of course it has nothing to do with the "9/11 Truth"
disinformation campaign.
Phlip
> It aint so much that I see so much evidence, but that there's info I
> should see that has not been presented that I find curious.
Google "Daniel Hopsicker" and/or "Grover Norquist".
Governor Swill
>Opium - drug prohibition - is the heart of the matter. Without the
>incredible profits of prohibition, terrorists would have to work for a
>living.
>
>Legalize the opium (and use medical cannabis to prevent physical
>addictions), and the war on terror disappears in a puff of ... smoke!
>
>And gov'ts "look the other way" because that's part of the profit
>chain.
Right idea, wrong substance. It isn't opium that funds and drives
Islamic terrorism, it's oil.
Swill
--
Since WW II Truman and Clinton reduced the national debt.
Reagan and Bush the younger tripled it. Bush the elder
doubled it.
NO Republican has ANY right to complain about deficit spending
since it is *always* Republican Administrations that engage in it.
Iarnrod
> "The U.S. government has consistently blamed me for being behind every occasion its
> enemies attack it.
>
> "I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to
> have been planned by people for personal reasons..."
>
> http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/
He has admitted it, kkkook. Deal with it.
> Bush and Cheney certainly have personal reasons for wanting the
> crimes of 9/11 to occur.
No, they did not.
> They did all they could to make sure
> the crimes would happen, and they're the primary beneficiaries.
No, they didn't, and no they weren't. You are a lunatic.
> On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 12:05:01 -0700 (PDT),Iarnrod<iarn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >... He's admitted it...
>
> You're easily duped by faked video.
Nope. Not fake. Sorry, Cleopatra, Queen of Denial.
> There's also the way Bush hustled the bin Ladens out of the USA.
Wrong.
> He'd forced the FBI to stop investigating them when he took office.
No he didn't.
> http://tvnewslies.org/html/bin_laden_ties.html
>
> Bush also made sure that the pilots were disarmed, in July of 2001.
No he didn't.
> Bush and Cheney are still making money on 9/11.
No, they're not.
> They're the primary beneficiaries of the crime PNAC wanted.
No, they are not.
You need mental health intervention STAT.
Iarnrod
> On Mon, 7 Sep 2009 05:47:38 -0700 (PDT), Phlip <phlip2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Sep 5, 4:54 am, * US * wrote:
> >> "The Al-Qaidah group had nothing to do with the 11 September attacks on the USA, according
> >> to Usama bin Ladin in an interview with the Pakistani newspaper Ummat. Usama bin Ladin
> >> went on to suggest that Jews or US secret services were behind the attacks"
>
> >>http://911review.com/articles/usamah/khilafah.html
>
> >Is that a Truther site?
>
> The messenger isn't the message.
In this case, the messenger is a proven liar.
5147 Dead, 280 since 1/20/09
> On Sep 8, 4:09 am, * US * wrote:
>> "The U.S. government has consistently blamed me for being behind every
>> occasion its enemies attack it.
>>
>> "I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent
>> attacks, which seems to have been planned by people for personal
>> reasons..."
>>
>> http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/
>
> He has admitted it, kkkook. Deal with it.
>
>> Bush and Cheney certainly have personal reasons for wanting the crimes
>> of 9/11 to occur.
>
> No, they did not.
Sure they did. What was the FIRST thing they pushed for after 9/11? A
tax cut for the rich! That makes sense, right?
>
>> They did all they could to make sure
>> the crimes would happen, and they're the primary beneficiaries.
>
> No, they didn't, and no they weren't. You are a lunatic.
>
>
>> On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 12:05:01 -0700 (PDT),Iarnrod<iarn...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>> >... He's admitted it...
>>
>> You're easily duped by faked video.
>
> Nope. Not fake. Sorry, Cleopatra, Queen of Denial.
>
>> There's also the way Bush hustled the bin Ladens out of the USA.
>
> Wrong.
>
>> He'd forced the FBI to stop investigating them when he took office.
>
> No he didn't.
>
>> http://tvnewslies.org/html/bin_laden_ties.html
>>
>> Bush also made sure that the pilots were disarmed, in July of 2001.
>
> No he didn't.
>
>> Bush and Cheney are still making money on 9/11.
>
> No, they're not.
>
>> They're the primary beneficiaries of the crime PNAC wanted.
>
> No, they are not.
>
> You need mental health intervention STAT.
--
*us*
>
>The FBI had been investigating the US branch of the bin Laden family
Bush stopped them just in time to finger his scapegoat for 9/11.
"The U.S. government has consistently blamed me for being behind every occasion its
enemies attack it.
"I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to
have been planned by people for personal reasons..."
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/
Bush and Cheney certainly have personal reasons for wanting the
crimes of 9/11 to occur. They did all they could to make sure
the crimes would happen, and they're the primary beneficiaries.
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 12:05:01 -0700 (PDT), Iarnrod <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>... He's admitted it...
You're easily duped by faked video.
There's also the way Bush hustled the bin Ladens out of the USA.
He'd forced the FBI to stop investigating them when he took office.
http://tvnewslies.org/html/bin_laden_ties.html
*us*
>Going after anyone as a nation for the acts of a few is a horrible
>idea ...
Yet Bush and Cheney went after Afghanistan and Iraq.
You're perfectly content that the perps of 9/11 are still
cashing in on their crimes.
"The U.S. government has consistently blamed me for being behind every occasion its
enemies attack it.
"I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to
have been planned by people for personal reasons..."
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/
Bush and Cheney certainly have personal reasons for wanting the
crimes of 9/11 to occur. They did all they could to make sure
the crimes would happen, and they're the primary beneficiaries.
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 12:05:01 -0700 (PDT), Iarnrod <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>... He's admitted it...
You're easily duped by faked video.
There's also the way Bush hustled the bin Ladens out of the USA.
He'd forced the FBI to stop investigating them when he took office.
http://tvnewslies.org/html/bin_laden_ties.html
*us*
>... kkkook ...
You believe all of the Bush/Cheney lies about 9/11, don't you.
"The U.S. government has consistently blamed me for being behind every occasion its
enemies attack it.
"I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to
have been planned by people for personal reasons..."
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/
Bush and Cheney certainly have personal reasons for wanting the
crimes of 9/11 to occur. They did all they could to make sure
the crimes would happen, and they're the primary beneficiaries.
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 12:05:01 -0700 (PDT), Iarnrod <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>... He's admitted it...
You're easily duped by faked video.
There's also the way Bush hustled the bin Ladens out of the USA.
He'd forced the FBI to stop investigating them when he took office.
http://tvnewslies.org/html/bin_laden_ties.html
Bush also made sure that the pilots were disarmed, in July of 2001.
Bush and Cheney are still making money on 9/11.
They're the primary beneficiaries of the crime PNAC wanted.
*us*
The Saudis didn't need to do anything but provide some dupes.
The masterminds of 9/11 are still cashing in on it.
*us*
>... a proven liar.
Yet you believe every lie Bush and Cheney have told about 9/11.
"The Al-Qaidah group had nothing to do with the 11 September attacks on the USA, according
to Usama bin Ladin in an interview with the Pakistani newspaper Ummat. Usama bin Ladin
went on to suggest that Jews or US secret services were behind the attacks"
http://911review.com/articles/usamah/khilafah.html
See also:
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/
Notice that even the most desperate neocon pawn can't dispute these facts.
*us*
>* US * wrote:
>> Remember, there's absolutely no real evidence
>> that anyone in Afghanistan had anything to do
>> with the crimes of 9/11.
>Is there 'real evidence' of anything on the Internet?
There's real evidence that Bush and Cheney lied about 9/11,
as well as that they're still cashing in on it.
>... Jihadim ...
BOO! Now cower.
>I have a copy of the Mytreyayasamiti Texts in Tocharian A in which
>there's a reference to the misogynistic "arrogant Sakyas" who are the
>ancestors of the jackass warlords running [if thats the right word] much
>of what is now Pakistan and Afghanistan. From the 5th century.
Relevance?
>History shows the character of their descendants, and it seems they
>certainly would, if they could, do the 911 hit. But even if they did,
>these medieval jackasses would have needed modern high tech help.
Cheney stood down NORAD on 9/11.
>Which members of the Bush administration, Mossad, and the CIA certainly
>had. And again, history suggests there were characters in these
>organizations that would have been motivated to promote 911, at the very
>least, by turning a blind eye. Of which there are some reports.
PNAC wanted that attack.
>Then too, Swiss and other financial analyists report on the curious
>movement of assets to take advantage of such an event, not, by any
>means, limited to Silverstein. Who, had he insured some delis that had
>all been struck in the same day, would have resulted in an immediate
>investigation. Which we did not see.
>
>It aint so much that I see so much evidence, but that there's info I
>should see that has not been presented that I find curious.
Cheney and Bush obstructed the 'investigation' of 9/11.
*us*
>Islamic terrorism ...
Loon Lingo Alert!
Al Dykes
Whatever B&C have to say has nothing to do with all the evidence that
shows that 19 Islamist Arabs crashed 4 hijacked jets into three
buildings and causing the death of about 3,000 people on 9/11.
http://911links.webs.com/index.htm
Al Dykes
<Ame...@USA.now> wrote:
>On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 23:55:27 -0700 (PDT), Iarnrod <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>... a proven liar.
>
>Yet you believe every lie Bush and Cheney have told about 9/11.
>
>"The Al-Qaidah group had nothing to do with the 11 September attacks on the USA, according
>to Usama bin Ladin in an interview with the Pakistani newspaper Ummat. Usama bin Ladin
>went on to suggest that Jews or US secret services were behind the attacks"
>
>http://911review.com/articles/usamah/khilafah.html
http://911links.webs.com/binLaden.htm
Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda Updated 5/22/09
Table Of Contents
[1] NEWS (Jan 2001) Some See U.S. as Terrorists' Next Big Target
[2] (Jan 2001) ObL Tells Reporter that US attacks are comming.
[3] New York Times reports about al Queda about 89 times prior to 9/11/2001
[4] bin Laden quotes
[5] Al Qaeda: Statements and Evolving Ideology
[6] 1996: bin Laden declares war on America.
[7] ObL attacks on America prior to 2001 listed
[8] Specific attack warnings
[9] Bibliography
[10] 1998 ObL Fatwa calling for attack on the US
[11] Complete 9/11 timeline
[12] Answer to "bin Laden not wanted by FBI"
[13] US Government "Wanted" poster for biin Ladem
[1] -------------------------------------
NEWS: Some See U.S. as Terrorists' Next Big Target
http://articles.latimes.com/2000/jan/13/news/mn-53626
Bin Laden Is Said to Be at Center of Loose Web
By John-Thor Dahlburg
January 13, 2000 in print edition A-1
...
U.S. and European authorities say that at the center of
this web, which has been loosely spun from the Philippines
to North America, is Saudi militant Osama bin Laden. A
former Afghan moujahedeen, or holy warrior, the 43-year-old
Bin Laden is on the FBI's 10-most-wanted list for allegedly
sponsoring the 1998 bombings of the U.S. embassies in Kenya
and Tanzania that killed 224 people.
In a development indicative of Bin Laden's esteem among his
brothers in arms, after the United States succeeded in obtaining a
U.N. Security Council resolution in October demanding
bin Laden's extradition from Afghanistan, GIA leader Antar Zouabri
issued a letter that condemned the West for persecuting
Islamic militants and that vowed reprisals.
French officials said Ahmed Ressam, an Algerian national arrested
Dec. 14 in Washington state on suspicion of plotting a bombing in
the United States, received his military training at one of Bin Laden's
camps in eastern Afghanistan.
According to the French, the 33-year-old North African belonged to
the "Roubaix gang," a band of armed robbers of Algerian, Bosnian and
French origin who trained in Islamic camps in Bosnia-Herzegovina and
carried out a series of holdups in Belgium and northern France in
early 1996.
Judge Jean-Louis Bruguiere, one of France's top anti-terrorism
investigators, says a flexible, diffuse and worldwide structure
makes Muslim extremism a growing problem that demands more
intense cross-border cooperation.
In the space of one month, the French judge's investigations took
him as far afield as Canada and Australia.
"The Islamic extremist threat is the Internet of terrorism," Bruguiere said.
[2] ---------------------------------------------------------------
June, 2001: ObL Tells London reporter "attacks are coming.
June 21st, 2001: Bakr Atyani, a reporter for Saudi
Arabian owned broadcaster Middle East Broadcasting
Corp. meets with Osama bin Laden and his aides
in a desert area of Afghanistan. According
to Atyani, "Bin Laden seemed happy with the talks
of his aides who said that the coming weeks will
hold important surprises that will target American
and Israeli interests in the world."
June 22nd, 2001: The US State Department
issued a "Worldwide Caution" regarding the risk of a
terrorist attack by extremist groups. It specifically
mentioned groups with links to Bin Laden and his
Al Queda organization as possible sources for the threat.
June 22nd, 2001: US military forces throughout the
Persian Gulf were put on a heightened state of alert.
June 22nd, 2001: A U.S. Marine Corps
contingent in Jordan cut short its training session and
returned to its ships.
June 22nd, 2001:
U.S. 5th Fleet sent its ships out of port in Bahrain.
June 23rd, 2001: Middle East Broadcasting Corp reported
that followers of Bin Laden were planning an attack
on American and Israeli interests within the next few
weeks. Bakr Atyani's interview with Bin Laden is a
featured report.
June 24th: Taliban officials responde
http://archive.democrats.com/view.cfm?id=7743
Described in Bamford [9] Starting on p.16
[3] ---------------------------------------------------------------
"al Queda" was first mentioned in the NY Times on
August 28, 1998 and an estimated 89 times prior to
9/11/2001. A computer at any library can be used
to find all the stories by searching the NYT archives.
[4] -------- bin Laden quotes-----------------------------------
http://iraqwar.org/binladenquotes.htm
[5] ---------------------------------------------------------------
Congressional Research Service
Al Qaeda: Statements and Evolving Ideology
Updated July 9, 2007
Christopher M. Blanchard, Analyst in Middle Eastern Affairs
- http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/terror/RL32759.pdf
...The third and "ultimate objective," according to
Al Adl, (*) "was to prompt [the United States] to come
out of its hole." Al Adl claims that Al Qaeda wanted
to provoke the United States into attacking areas
of the Islamic world associated with the
organization and its affiliates. In doing so, Al Adl
claims, Al Qaeda hoped to make it easier to attack
elements of U.S. power and to build its "credibility
in front of [the Islamic] nation and the
beleaguered people of the world." Al Adl and others have conceded that the attacks
on New York and Washington were not totally
successful, while arguing that the September 11
attack "was enough to prompt the Americans to carry
out the anticipated response" - namely direct military action
within the Islamic world. ...In December 2004, Bin Laden identified the conflict
in Iraq as "a golden and unique opportunity" for
jihadists to engage and defeat the United States,
and he characterized the insurgency in Iraq as the
central battle in a "Third World War, which the
Crusader-Zionist coalition began against the Islamic
nation." 24 (*) Al-Qa'ida Leader Sayf al-Adl OSC Report -
GMP2005060637100, May 21, 2005
[6] ----------------------------------------------------
1966: bin Laden declares war on America http://www.outpost-of-freedom.com/opf980830a.htm
[7] -----------------------------
ObL Early attacks and aid for attacks http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden#Militant_activity
[8] ----------------------------------------
Specific attack warnings
http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&warning_signs:_specific_cases
Spying Blind by Amy Zegart.
Apr 2001, MASSOUD Tells us bin Laden and AQ will attach us "Through Northern Alliance intelligence efforts,
the late commander Massoud gained limited knowledge
regarding the intentions of the Saudi millionaire,
Usama bin Laden and his terrorist organization, al-Qaida,
to perform a terrorist act against the U.S.,
on a scale larger than the 1998 bombing of the U.S.
embassies in Kenya and Tanzania." http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/11/06/massoud.cable/index.html
[9] ------------ Bibliography --------------
Al Qaeda Now - Understanding today's terrorists - Ed. by Greenberg Lots of good ObL quotes
9/11 Comission Report Ch. 6.3
The Commission - The Uncensored History Of The 9/11 Investigation by Shenon, Philip
Messages to the world; The statements of Osama bin Laden translated by Bruce Lawrence
Congressional Report for Congress; Al Qaede: Statements and Evolving Ideology
The Power of Nightmares VIDEO (3 parts)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_of_Nightmares
The Shadow Factory - The Ultra-Secret NSA from 9/11 by Bamford
PBS Nova Spy Factory
Ghost Wars by Cole
The Looming Tower - Wright
The bin Ladens by Cole
Spying Blind by Amy Zegart.
[10] ------------------------------------------------------------
1998 Fatwa calling for war abainst the US
http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a022298fatwaexpands&scale=0#a022298fatwaexpands
http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/980223-fatwa.htm
[11] --------------------------------
Complete 9/11 timeline
http://www.historycommons.org/project.jsp?project=911_project
[12] ---------------------------------------
Answer to "bin Laden not wanted by FBI"
November 6, 2001 the Bush administration handed
such prosecutions over to the DoD and said this
circumvented the 5th ammedment requirement for
indictments
www.usdoj.gov/olc/2001/pub-millcommfinal.pdf
www.commondreams.org/headlines01/1113-07.htm
[13] -----------------------------------------------
http://www.nctc.gov/site/profiles/bin_ladin.html
Usama Bin Ladin is wanted in connection with the
11 September 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center
and the Pentagon and for the 7 August 1998 bombings
of the US Embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and
Nairobi, Kenya. The embassy bombings killed 224 civilians and
wounded more than 5,000 others. Usama Bin Ladin and
other terrorists.specifically Ayman al-Zawahiri, Fazul Abdullah
Mohammed, Fahid Mohammed Ally Msalam, Sheikh Ahmed Salim
Swedan, Abdullah Ahmed Abdullah, Saif al-Adel, Anas al-Liby,
Ahmed Mohamed Hamed Ali, and others already in custody.
are members of al-Qa.ida, the international terrorist network
headed by Bin Ladin.
Iarnrod
> On 8 Sep 2009 09:33:57 -0400, ady...@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>
>
>
> >The FBI had been investigating the US branch of the bin Laden family
>
> Bush stopped them just in time to finger his scapegoat for 9/11.
No, he didn't.
> "The U.S. government has consistently blamed me for being behind every occasion its
> enemies attack it.
>
> "I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to
> have been planned by people for personal reasons..."
>
> http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/
He has admitted it. Deal with it.
> Bush and Cheney certainly have personal reasons for wanting the
> crimes of 9/11 to occur.
No, they did not.
> They did all they could to make sure the crimes would happen,
No they did not.
> and they're the primary beneficiaries.
No, they are not.
> On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 12:05:01 -0700 (PDT),Iarnrod<iarn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >... He's admitted it...
>
> You're easily duped by faked video.
It is not fake. You're just saying that because your belief system
cannot admit you're wrong.
> There's also the way Bush hustled the bin Ladens out of the USA.
He didn't.
> He'd forced the FBI to stop investigating them when he took office.
No, he did not.
> Bush also made sure that the pilots were disarmed, in July of 2001.
No, he didn't.
> Bush and Cheney are still making money on 9/11.
No, they're not.
> They're the primary beneficiaries of the crime PNAC wanted.
It did not want any such thing and they are not benefiting from it.
Iarnrod
> On 8 Sep 2009 09:47:55 -0400, ady...@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>
> >Going after anyone as a nation for the acts of a few is a horrible
> >idea ...
>
> Yet Bush and Cheney went after Afghanistan
They did not go after the country; that's where UBL, the admitted
perp, was.
> and Iraq.
Bush is a moron. 'nuff said.
> You're perfectly content that the perps of 9/11 are still
> cashing in on their crimes.
How is UBL and al Qaeda still cashing in on 9/11?
> "The U.S. government has consistently blamed me for being behind every occasion its
> enemies attack it.
>
> "I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to
> have been planned by people for personal reasons..."
>
> http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/
He later admitted it, kkkook.
> Bush and Cheney certainly have personal reasons for wanting the
> crimes of 9/11 to occur.
No, they didn't.
> They did all they could to make sure
> the crimes would happen,
They did no such thing.
> and they're the primary beneficiaries.
No, they are not.
> On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 12:05:01 -0700 (PDT),Iarnrod<iarn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >... He's admitted it...
>
> You're easily duped by faked video.
It isn't fake, dearie. you just need to say that since it upsets your
delusional kkkooker world view.
> There's also the way Bush hustled the bin Ladens out of the USA.
He didn't.
> He'd forced the FBI to stop investigating them when he took office.
No, he did not.
> Bush also made sure that the pilots were disarmed, in July of 2001.
No, he didn't.
> Bush and Cheney are still making money on 9/11.
No, they're not.
> They're the primary beneficiaries of the crime PNAC wanted.
They wanted no such thing.
Iarnrod
> On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 23:54:43 -0700 (PDT),Iarnrod<iarn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >... kkkook ...
>
> You believe all of the Bush/Cheney lies about 9/11, don't you.
You douchebag, I don't believe one single thing Moron AWOL Bush and
Psycho Cheney say.
I believe what the FACTS show.
You claim things that are proven false, so where does that leave you?
<chuckle>
> Bush and Cheney certainly have personal reasons for wanting the
> crimes of 9/11 to occur
No, they do not.
> They did all they could to make sure
> the crimes would happen,
No, they did not.
> and they're the primary beneficiaries.
No, they're not.
Got anything at all?
No?
Iarnrod
UBL has admitted it, dearie. Deal with it.
Iarnrod
> On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:16:06 -0500, Day Brown <dayhbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >* US * wrote:
> >> Remember, there's absolutely no real evidence
> >> that anyone in Afghanistan had anything to do
> >> with the crimes of 9/11.
> >Is there 'real evidence' of anything on the Internet?
>
> There's real evidence that Bush and Cheney lied about 9/11,
> as well as that they're still cashing in on it.
There is no evidence to support either of those statements.
> >History shows the character of their descendants, and it seems they
> >certainly would, if they could, do the 911 hit. But even if they did,
> >these medieval jackasses would have needed modern high tech help.
>
> Cheney stood down NORAD on 9/11.
No, he did no such thing. Sorry. You're lying again.
> >Which members of the Bush administration, Mossad, and the CIA certainly
> >had. And again, history suggests there were characters in these
> >organizations that would have been motivated to promote 911, at the very
> >least, by turning a blind eye. Of which there are some reports.
>
> PNAC wanted that attack.
No it did not.
Day Brown
School of government rules apply to unraveling 911:
1- Never say anything in writing [much less email].
2- Never say over the phone what you can say in person.
3- Never speak when you can nod.
4- Never nod when you can smile.
Chaney is real good at smiling. There are, of course, a few new lie
detection technologies like the fMRI brain scan, which show the
pre-frontal lobe activity that happens during the calculation for a lie
and the mid brain activity when the memory centers are activated.
But nobody wants to let that genie out of the bottle. Start with 911,
and the lies in the system would be opened up en masse, and drain all
the life out of it.
Day Brown
>> I have a copy of the Mytreyayasamiti Texts in Tocharian A in which
>> there's a reference to the misogynistic "arrogant Sakyas" who are the
>> ancestors of the jackass warlords running [if thats the right word] much
>> of what is now Pakistan and Afghanistan. From the 5th century.
>
> Relevance?
us. They take after these same arrogant Sakyas, who could, even then, as
still today, rattle off the names of their warrior aggressive
forefathers. They innately understand their sons will take after them,
and now the DNA suggests 80% of the boys will.
The alpha male misogynistic syndrome is related to the DNA markers that
increase adrenalin and testosterone, and lower dopamine and seratonin.
All of which have powerful effects on the level of violence and the
reaction to drugs and alcohol.
http://www.livescience.com/health/090605-warrior-gene.html
These kinds of markers are more or less common in different gene pools.
And that results in the different character of the men. It explains some
of how you can get a population of men who will follow a prophet with a
9 year old wife. Are you like that? I saw a Taliban video that showed a
12 year old boy using a butcher knife to cut off the head of some poor
smuck accused of spying. Can your boy do that? Hello?
You think all men are alike? They do not have that opinion, and will
tell you so to your face, saying they are different. They are wrong
about a lot, but not that.
*us*
enemies attack it.
"I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to
have been planned by people for personal reasons..."
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/
Bush and Cheney certainly have personal reasons for wanting the
crimes of 9/11 to occur. They did all they could to make sure
the crimes would happen, and they're the primary beneficiaries.
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 12:05:01 -0700 (PDT), Iarnrod <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>... He's admitted it...
You're easily duped by faked video.
There's also the way Bush hustled the bin Ladens out of the USA.
He'd forced the FBI to stop investigating them when he took office.
http://tvnewslies.org/html/bin_laden_ties.html
Bush also made sure that the pilots were disarmed, in July of 2001.
Bush and Cheney are still making money on 9/11.
They're the primary beneficiaries of the crime PNAC wanted.
Even their most subservient pawn can't deny it.
*us*
>Bush is a moron ...
Yet he duped you, totally.
On 8 Sep 2009 09:47:55 -0400, ady...@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>Going after anyone as a nation for the acts of a few is a horrible
>idea ...
Yet Bush and Cheney went after Afghanistan and Iraq.
You're perfectly content that the perps of 9/11 are still
cashing in on their crimes.
"The U.S. government has consistently blamed me for being behind every occasion its
enemies attack it.
"I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to
have been planned by people for personal reasons..."
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/
Bush and Cheney certainly have personal reasons for wanting the
crimes of 9/11 to occur. They did all they could to make sure
the crimes would happen, and they're the primary beneficiaries.
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 12:05:01 -0700 (PDT), Iarnrod <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>... He's admitted it...
You're easily duped by faked video.
There's also the way Bush hustled the bin Ladens out of the USA.
He'd forced the FBI to stop investigating them when he took office.
http://tvnewslies.org/html/bin_laden_ties.html
Bush also made sure that the pilots were disarmed, in July of 2001.
Bush and Cheney are still making money on 9/11.
They're the primary beneficiaries of the crime PNAC wanted.
*us*
>... belief system ...
You're so stupid you believe every lie Bush and Cheney have told.
On 8 Sep 2009 09:33:57 -0400, ady...@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>
>The FBI had been investigating the US branch of the bin Laden family
Bush stopped them just in time to finger his scapegoat for 9/11.
"The U.S. government has consistently blamed me for being behind every occasion its
enemies attack it.
"I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to
have been planned by people for personal reasons..."
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/
Bush and Cheney certainly have personal reasons for wanting the
crimes of 9/11 to occur. They did all they could to make sure
the crimes would happen, and they're the primary beneficiaries.
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 12:05:01 -0700 (PDT), Iarnrod <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>... He's admitted it...
You're easily duped by faked video.
There's also the way Bush hustled the bin Ladens out of the USA.
He'd forced the FBI to stop investigating them when he took office.
http://tvnewslies.org/html/bin_laden_ties.html
Bush also made sure that the pilots were disarmed, in July of 2001.
Bush and Cheney are still making money on 9/11.
They're the primary beneficiaries of the crime PNAC wanted.
*us*
>... kkkook...
Tell us the one about the WMD in Iraq, again.
On 8 Sep 2009 09:33:57 -0400, ady...@panix.com (Al Dykes) wrote:
>
>The FBI had been investigating the US branch of the bin Laden family
Bush stopped them just in time to finger his scapegoat for 9/11.
"The U.S. government has consistently blamed me for being behind every occasion its
enemies attack it.
"I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to
have been planned by people for personal reasons..."
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/
Bush and Cheney certainly have personal reasons for wanting the
crimes of 9/11 to occur. They did all they could to make sure
the crimes would happen, and they're the primary beneficiaries.
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 12:05:01 -0700 (PDT), Iarnrod <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>... He's admitted it...
You're easily duped by faked video.
There's also the way Bush hustled the bin Ladens out of the USA.
He'd forced the FBI to stop investigating them when he took office.
http://tvnewslies.org/html/bin_laden_ties.html
Bush also made sure that the pilots were disarmed, in July of 2001.
Bush and Cheney are still making money on 9/11.
They're the primary beneficiaries of the crime PNAC wanted.
*us*
>... douchebag, I ...
You don't care if the perps get away with 9/11.
On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 23:54:43 -0700 (PDT), Iarnrod <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>... kkkook ...
You believe all of the Bush/Cheney lies about 9/11, don't you.
"The U.S. government has consistently blamed me for being behind every occasion its
enemies attack it.
"I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to
have been planned by people for personal reasons..."
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/
Bush and Cheney certainly have personal reasons for wanting the
*us*
enemies attack it.
"I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to
have been planned by people for personal reasons..."
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/
Bush and Cheney certainly have personal reasons for wanting the
crimes of 9/11 to occur. They did all they could to make sure
the crimes would happen, and they're the primary beneficiaries.
On Sat, 5 Sep 2009 12:05:01 -0700 (PDT), Iarnrod <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>... He's admitted it...
You're easily duped by faked video.
There's also the way Bush hustled the bin Ladens out of the USA.
He'd forced the FBI to stop investigating them when he took office.
http://tvnewslies.org/html/bin_laden_ties.html
Bush also made sure that the pilots were disarmed, in July of 2001.
Bush and Cheney are still making money on 9/11.
They're the primary beneficiaries of the crime PNAC wanted.
On Mon, 7 Sep 2009 11:54:54 -0700 (PDT), Iarnrod <iar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>...easily duped by kkkooks.
You believe all of the Bush and Cheney lies about 9/11, don't you.
Even the most subservient kneeling neopawn can't deny that
Bush and Cheney lied about 9/11, and that they're still making
profits from it.