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3941 Dead

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Feb 11, 2008, 12:42:17 PM2/11/08
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/11/guantanamo.usa

US charges Guantánamo detainees with 9/11 murders

The United States today charged six Guantánamo Bay detainees with
murder and war crimes in relation to the September 11 attacks in New
York and Washington.

The men are set to be the first detainees brought before a military
tribunal in Guantánamo Bay in connection with the attacks. The
Pentagon said prosecutors would seek the death penalty if they were
convicted.

A spokesman told reporters one of the men charged was Khalid Sheikh
Mohammed, who he named as the "mastermind of the 9/11 attacks" who
proposed carrying out the mission to Osama bin Laden as early as 1996.

Last week, the CIA admitted interrogators used "waterboarding" - a
technique widely perceived as torture - shortly after the September 11
attacks on Mohammed.

More details soon

"I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that
said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'"
- G.W. Bush, 9/17/01, UPI


"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care.
It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

Pay your taxes so the rich don't have to.

For the best in liberal/leftist commentary, visit www.zeppscommentaries.com

free....@gmail.com

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Feb 11, 2008, 12:56:29 PM2/11/08
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More propaganda ...The Bushites want us to believe they have done
something! Fighting Evil is really rough. We are suppose to be
impressed if they KILL some more people. It's the American way.

Steve

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Feb 11, 2008, 1:05:02 PM2/11/08
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On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 09:42:17 -0800, 3941 Dead <ze...@finestplanet.com>
wrote:

>
>http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/11/guantanamo.usa
>
>US charges Guantánamo detainees with 9/11 murders
>
>The United States today charged six Guantánamo Bay detainees with
>murder and war crimes in relation to the September 11 attacks in New
>York and Washington.
>
>The men are set to be the first detainees brought before a military
>tribunal in Guantánamo Bay in connection with the attacks. The
>Pentagon said prosecutors would seek the death penalty if they were
>convicted.
>
>A spokesman told reporters one of the men charged was Khalid Sheikh
>Mohammed, who he named as the "mastermind of the 9/11 attacks" who
>proposed carrying out the mission to Osama bin Laden as early as 1996.
>
>Last week, the CIA admitted interrogators used "waterboarding" - a
>technique widely perceived as torture - shortly after the September 11
>attacks on Mohammed.
>
>More details soon
>

Too bad they ONLY waterboarded them...

"And one of the ironies of this entire discussion is that a company
that pays corporate income taxes one year can deduct them as a
business expense the next.
--Milt Shook, who claims to have been a business consultant.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/b0151278e691117b.


"Corporate income taxes are not deductible, and I was wrong about that.
That's why, as a business consultant, i always made sure my clients
hired an accountant."
--Milt Shook
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/67262bc51f223155

Canyon Note: the irony lies in that someone who claims to have
been a business consultant would ever think corporate income taxes
were deductible..

"As a business consultant, I would never do anything beyond simple
daily bookkeeping"
--Milt Shook
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/305f3c9f66cb109c

Canyon Note: So Milt's career as a "business consultant" was really nothing
more than recording the store''s daily sales figures... something a sales
clerk does, usually for minimum wage..

Jeff Morgan

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Feb 11, 2008, 1:34:09 PM2/11/08
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3941 Dead wrote:

>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/11/guantanamo.usa
>
> US charges Guantánamo detainees with 9/11 murders
>


When Bush's role in 9/11 comes out, the military officers involved in
these kangaroo courts are gonna get reamed.


Billary/2008

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"3941 Dead" <ze...@finestplanet.com> wrote in message
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>

It's too bad the Supremes don't agee with you isn't it Canuk? Why do you
hate America? Why don't you go back to where you came from?

Billary/2008

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Feb 11, 2008, 2:54:20 PM2/11/08
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"Steve" <steven...@yahooooooo.com> wrote in message

Their day is coming. Soon they'll be surrounded by dozens of ugly Virgins.

Billary/2008

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Feb 11, 2008, 2:54:51 PM2/11/08
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<free....@gmail.com> wrote in message news:89c7cbd7-ff3a-45d0-9137-

More propaganda ...The Bushites want us to believe they have done
something! Fighting Evil is really rough. We are suppose to be
impressed if they KILL some more people. It's the American way.


What has Hitlery or Osama or Teddy Kennedy done?


Steve

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Feb 11, 2008, 3:41:49 PM2/11/08
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..who are afraid to come out from behind their burkas.. what good is
a virgin wrapped up like a mummy?

Gandalf Grey

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"Shillary/2008" <BillaryCl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "3941 Dead" <ze...@finestplanet.com> wrote in message
> news:l621r3tlearji0qvc...@4ax.com...
>>
>
> It's too bad the Supremes don't agee with you isn't it Canuk? Why do you
> hate America?

That's funny coming from a treasonous anti-American fascist like you, Shill.


Billary/2008

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Feb 11, 2008, 4:28:50 PM2/11/08
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"Gandalf Grey" <vali...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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To you, everything to the right of comrade Stalin is "fascist". Get a life
loser.

Gandalf Grey

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Feb 11, 2008, 4:36:43 PM2/11/08
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"Billary/2008" <BillaryCl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> To you, everything to the right of the Constitution of the United States
> is fascist and unamerican, Shill.

No need to thank me for correcting your pitiful ignorance. Since you're
always in the wrong, it's really no problem.


VRWC Destruction Machine

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Feb 11, 2008, 7:47:39 PM2/11/08
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3941 Dead <ze...@finestplanet.com> wrote in crayon...

>
>http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/11/guantanamo.usa
>
>US charges Guantánamo detainees with 9/11 murders
>
>The United States today charged six Guantánamo Bay detainees with
>murder and war crimes in relation to the September 11 attacks in New
>York and Washington.
>
>The men are set to be the first detainees brought before a military
>tribunal in Guantánamo Bay in connection with the attacks. The
>Pentagon said prosecutors would seek the death penalty if they were
>convicted.
>

Hip Hip Hooray!

They should put them in a plane on auto pilot and slam it into a
mosque in Saudi Arabia. They should be able to go home.

----o----


"This VAST RIGHT-WING CONSPIRACY that has been conspiring
against my husband since the day he announced for President"
-Hillary Clinton on the Today Show Jan 27, 1998

As Bill Clinton said in a speech last week, referring
to a range of conservative media: "They have a DESTRUCTION
MACHINE. We don't have a DESTRUCTION MACHINE."
-Bill Clinton in a speech addressing the Democratic Leadership Council
on 2002 in New York

A big THANK YOU to the Wicked Witch of the Left
& the man from the Hope, Arkansas Trailer Park
for giving me the inspiration for my nic.

VRWC Destruction Machine

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Feb 11, 2008, 7:52:55 PM2/11/08
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"free....@gmail.com" <free....@gmail.com> wrote in crayon...

Who cares if you're not impressed?

Justice will be served
And the battle will rage
This big dog will fight
When you rattle his cage
You’ll be sorry that you messed with
The U.S. of A.
'Cause we'll put a BOOT in your ass
It's the American way
-Toby Keith

3960 Dead

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Feb 11, 2008, 9:40:50 PM2/11/08
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Of course, um, old Toby's kinda RECONSIDERED since then, and nowdays,
he's agin the occupation.

>
>----o----
>
>
>"This VAST RIGHT-WING CONSPIRACY that has been conspiring
>against my husband since the day he announced for President"
>-Hillary Clinton on the Today Show Jan 27, 1998
>
>As Bill Clinton said in a speech last week, referring
>to a range of conservative media: "They have a DESTRUCTION
>MACHINE. We don't have a DESTRUCTION MACHINE."
>-Bill Clinton in a speech addressing the Democratic Leadership Council
> on 2002 in New York
>
>A big THANK YOU to the Wicked Witch of the Left
>& the man from the Hope, Arkansas Trailer Park
>for giving me the inspiration for my nic.

--

What do you call a Republican with a conscience?

An ex-Republican.

http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=8827 (From Yang, AthD (h.c)

"Prosperity and peace are in the balance," -- Putsch, not admitting that he's against both

Putsch: leading America to asymetric warfare since 2001

Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!


Pay your taxes so the rich don't have to.

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VRWC Destruction Machine

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Feb 12, 2008, 9:21:26 AM2/12/08
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3960 Dead <zepp22...@finestplanet.com> wrote in crayon...

He wrote that song as a tribute to his father who was in the Korean
Conflict.

I didn't want to embarrass you by saying there are no "secret death
trials." The trials was plastered all over the news.

3960 Dead

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Feb 12, 2008, 10:23:18 AM2/12/08
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On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:21:26 GMT, VRWC Destruction Machine
<Righ...@vrwcdm.com> wrote:

And he still reconsidered. Incidently, someone ought to tell Toby
that the US went as a part of a UN peace keeping force.


>
>I didn't want to embarrass you by saying there are no "secret death
>trials." The trials was plastered all over the news.
>

Think we'll SEE any of the trials, chuckles? Will they let the press
in? Will there be transcripts?

Remember when you used to be an American?


>----o----
>
>
>"This VAST RIGHT-WING CONSPIRACY that has been conspiring
>against my husband since the day he announced for President"
>-Hillary Clinton on the Today Show Jan 27, 1998
>
>As Bill Clinton said in a speech last week, referring
>to a range of conservative media: "They have a DESTRUCTION
>MACHINE. We don't have a DESTRUCTION MACHINE."
>-Bill Clinton in a speech addressing the Democratic Leadership Council
> on 2002 in New York
>
>A big THANK YOU to the Wicked Witch of the Left
>& the man from the Hope, Arkansas Trailer Park
>for giving me the inspiration for my nic.

--

What do you call a Republican with a conscience?

An ex-Republican.

"Prosperity and peace are in the balance," -- Putsch, not admitting that he's against both

Putsch: leading America to asymetric warfare since 2001

Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!

Pay your taxes so the rich don't have to.

VRWC Destruction Machine

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Feb 15, 2008, 4:55:36 PM2/15/08
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I really couldn't care less. Having a trial for the public to see will
make it a circus. There's no need to have terrorist supporters go
rabid on the world. All that's needed is the final verdict. We don't
need wannabe barristers to second guess the trial. When Americans
abroad are afforded Constitutional rights of the United States when
they are arrested by a hostile country get back to me.


>
>Remember when you used to be an American?

Still am and always will be. Being an American will always give me the
right to my opinion.

3960 Dead

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Feb 15, 2008, 8:37:10 PM2/15/08
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On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 21:55:36 GMT, VRWC Destruction Machine
<Righ...@vrwcdm.com> wrote:

Hey, remember when you used to be an American, you cowardly little
right wing cunt?

Steve

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Feb 16, 2008, 6:04:05 AM2/16/08
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On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:37:10 -0800, 3960 Dead <ze...@finestplanet.com>
wrote:

Being an American is Zepp's holy grail.. mostly because he's been
permanently barred from being an American.

VRWC Destruction Machine

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Feb 16, 2008, 9:38:43 AM2/16/08
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3960 Dead <ze...@finestplanet.com> wrote in crayon...

>>>Think we'll SEE any of the trials, chuckles? Will they let the press
>>>in? Will there be transcripts?
>>
>>I really couldn't care less.
>
>Hey, remember when you used to be an American, you cowardly little
>right wing cunt?

Is this a Zepp Commentary at its finest? Snip and whine.


>
>Having a trial for the public to see will
>>make it a circus. There's no need to have terrorist supporters go
>>rabid on the world. All that's needed is the final verdict. We don't
>>need wannabe barristers to second guess the trial. When Americans
>>abroad are afforded Constitutional rights of the United States when
>>they are arrested by a hostile country get back to me.
>>>
>>>Remember when you used to be an American?
>>
>>Still am and always will be. Being an American will always give me the
>>right to my opinion.

You Commies hate opinions that don't follow your utopian view of the
world.

VRWC Destruction Machine

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Feb 16, 2008, 9:44:03 AM2/16/08
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Steve <steven...@yahooooooo.com> wrote in crayon...

>Being an American is Zepp's holy grail.. mostly because he's been
>permanently barred from being an American.

I thought Zepperhead was a Cannuckistani. He can't be an American
because he spends so much time try to bring America down.

3960 Dead

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Feb 16, 2008, 1:08:38 PM2/16/08
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On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 14:38:43 GMT, VRWC Destruction Machine
<Righ...@vrwcdm.com> wrote:

>3960 Dead <ze...@finestplanet.com> wrote in crayon...
>
>>>>Think we'll SEE any of the trials, chuckles? Will they let the press
>>>>in? Will there be transcripts?
>>>
>>>I really couldn't care less.
>>
>>Hey, remember when you used to be an American, you cowardly little
>>right wing cunt?
>
>Is this a Zepp Commentary at its finest? Snip and whine.

Gosh, you were so busy trying to inflict your PC morals on me you
forgot to answer my remark.

Most Americans pride themselves on fair and open trials. What the
fuck happened to you? What turned you into such a pathetic cringer?


>>
>>Having a trial for the public to see will
>>>make it a circus. There's no need to have terrorist supporters go
>>>rabid on the world. All that's needed is the final verdict. We don't
>>>need wannabe barristers to second guess the trial. When Americans
>>>abroad are afforded Constitutional rights of the United States when
>>>they are arrested by a hostile country get back to me.
>>>>
>>>>Remember when you used to be an American?
>>>
>>>Still am and always will be. Being an American will always give me the
>>>right to my opinion.
>

Yeah, right. You're a great example of that. Thomas Jefferson would
slap your fucking face off for making that claim.

>You Commies hate opinions that don't follow your utopian view of the
>world.

Throw some straw, little ex-American!


>
>----o----
>
>
>"This VAST RIGHT-WING CONSPIRACY that has been conspiring
>against my husband since the day he announced for President"
>-Hillary Clinton on the Today Show Jan 27, 1998
>
>As Bill Clinton said in a speech last week, referring
>to a range of conservative media: "They have a DESTRUCTION
>MACHINE. We don't have a DESTRUCTION MACHINE."
>-Bill Clinton in a speech addressing the Democratic Leadership Council
> on 2002 in New York
>
>A big THANK YOU to the Wicked Witch of the Left
>& the man from the Hope, Arkansas Trailer Park
>for giving me the inspiration for my nic.

--

What do you call a Republican with a conscience?

An ex-Republican.

"Prosperity and peace are in the balance," -- Putsch, not admitting that he's against both

Putsch: leading America to asymetric warfare since 2001

Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!

Pay your taxes so the rich don't have to.

Steve

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Feb 16, 2008, 8:40:13 PM2/16/08
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Thomas Jefferson would have Zepp deported...

Steve

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On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 14:44:03 GMT, VRWC Destruction Machine
<Righ...@vrwcdm.com> wrote:

>Steve <steven...@yahooooooo.com> wrote in crayon...
>
>>Being an American is Zepp's holy grail.. mostly because he's been
>>permanently barred from being an American.
>
>I thought Zepperhead was a Cannuckistani. He can't be an American
>because he spends so much time try to bring America down.

He says he was born in Canada.. I have a feeling he has no
citizenship of any kind.. meaning that he can't even get a passport
but he can't leave the USA anyway because he won't be able to get back
in..

>----o----
>
>
>"This VAST RIGHT-WING CONSPIRACY that has been conspiring
>against my husband since the day he announced for President"
>-Hillary Clinton on the Today Show Jan 27, 1998
>
>As Bill Clinton said in a speech last week, referring
>to a range of conservative media: "They have a DESTRUCTION
>MACHINE. We don't have a DESTRUCTION MACHINE."
>-Bill Clinton in a speech addressing the Democratic Leadership Council
> on 2002 in New York
>
>A big THANK YOU to the Wicked Witch of the Left
>& the man from the Hope, Arkansas Trailer Park
>for giving me the inspiration for my nic.

David Moffitt

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Feb 17, 2008, 1:31:17 AM2/17/08
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"Steve" <steven...@yahooooooo.com> wrote in message
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%%%% Thomas Jefferson would have had zippy hung for treason.

"Ignorance gives politicians a free
hand to exploit the politics of envy. Our education system creates a
growing surplus of that ignorance." --Walter E. Williams

VRWC Destruction Machine

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Feb 17, 2008, 10:35:35 AM2/17/08
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Steve <steven...@yahooooooo.com> wrote in crayon...

>On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 14:44:03 GMT, VRWC Destruction Machine
><Righ...@vrwcdm.com> wrote:
>
>>Steve <steven...@yahooooooo.com> wrote in crayon...
>>
>>>Being an American is Zepp's holy grail.. mostly because he's been
>>>permanently barred from being an American.
>>
>>I thought Zepperhead was a Cannuckistani. He can't be an American
>>because he spends so much time try to bring America down.
>
>He says he was born in Canada.. I have a feeling he has no
>citizenship of any kind.. meaning that he can't even get a passport
>but he can't leave the USA anyway because he won't be able to get back
>in..
>

That situation usually applies to ILLEGAL Aliens.

VRWC Destruction Machine

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Feb 17, 2008, 10:45:59 AM2/17/08
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3960 Dead <zepp22...@finestplanet.com> wrote in crayon...

>On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 14:38:43 GMT, VRWC Destruction Machine


><Righ...@vrwcdm.com> wrote:
>
>>3960 Dead <ze...@finestplanet.com> wrote in crayon...
>>
>>>>>Think we'll SEE any of the trials, chuckles? Will they let the press
>>>>>in? Will there be transcripts?
>>>>
>>>>I really couldn't care less.
>>>
>>>Hey, remember when you used to be an American, you cowardly little
>>>right wing cunt?
>>
>>Is this a Zepp Commentary at its finest? Snip and whine.
>
>Gosh, you were so busy trying to inflict your PC morals on me you
>forgot to answer my remark.

You made no remark. It was just the ramblings of an idiot.


>
>Most Americans pride themselves on fair and open trials. What the
>fuck happened to you? What turned you into such a pathetic cringer?

Fair and open trials are ideal in the United States. You outsiders
don't understand the concept of a foreigner outside the United States
wanting to kill Americans. Constitutional Rights do not apply to
enemies of the United States. We do not require our soldiers on the
battlefield to Mirandize the enemy.

Thank God, bleeding heart Liberals do not run the United States.

>>>
>>>Having a trial for the public to see will
>>>>make it a circus. There's no need to have terrorist supporters go
>>>>rabid on the world. All that's needed is the final verdict. We don't
>>>>need wannabe barristers to second guess the trial. When Americans
>>>>abroad are afforded Constitutional rights of the United States when
>>>>they are arrested by a hostile country get back to me.
>>>>>
>>>>>Remember when you used to be an American?
>>>>
>>>>Still am and always will be. Being an American will always give me the
>>>>right to my opinion.
>>
>Yeah, right. You're a great example of that. Thomas Jefferson would
>slap your fucking face off for making that claim.

You sound like the bastard son of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg.

>
>>You Commies hate opinions that don't follow your utopian view of the
>>world.
>
>Throw some straw, little ex-American!

You hate America, don't you, Zepperhead?

Steve

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Feb 17, 2008, 10:48:37 AM2/17/08
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On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 15:35:35 GMT, VRWC Destruction Machine
<Righ...@vrwcdm.com> wrote:

>Steve <steven...@yahooooooo.com> wrote in crayon...
>
>>On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 14:44:03 GMT, VRWC Destruction Machine
>><Righ...@vrwcdm.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Steve <steven...@yahooooooo.com> wrote in crayon...
>>>
>>>>Being an American is Zepp's holy grail.. mostly because he's been
>>>>permanently barred from being an American.
>>>
>>>I thought Zepperhead was a Cannuckistani. He can't be an American
>>>because he spends so much time try to bring America down.
>>
>>He says he was born in Canada.. I have a feeling he has no
>>citizenship of any kind.. meaning that he can't even get a passport
>>but he can't leave the USA anyway because he won't be able to get back
>>in..
>>
>That situation usually applies to ILLEGAL Aliens.
>

here's his problem...

An alien who requests and is exempt under an agreement or
bilateral treaty can never become a U.S. citizen, and may
have trouble reentering the U.S. if he leaves.
http://www.sss.gov/fsaliens.htm

3960 Dead

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Feb 17, 2008, 12:58:08 PM2/17/08
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On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 15:35:35 GMT, VRWC Destruction Machine
<Righ...@vrwcdm.com> wrote:

>Steve <steven...@yahooooooo.com> wrote in crayon...
>
>>On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 14:44:03 GMT, VRWC Destruction Machine
>><Righ...@vrwcdm.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Steve <steven...@yahooooooo.com> wrote in crayon...
>>>
>>>>Being an American is Zepp's holy grail.. mostly because he's been
>>>>permanently barred from being an American.
>>>
>>>I thought Zepperhead was a Cannuckistani. He can't be an American
>>>because he spends so much time try to bring America down.
>>
>>He says he was born in Canada.. I have a feeling he has no
>>citizenship of any kind.. meaning that he can't even get a passport
>>but he can't leave the USA anyway because he won't be able to get back
>>in..
>>
>That situation usually applies to ILLEGAL Aliens.

You have to keep in mind, little troll, that you are riffing off a
psychotic and obsessive narcissist who is forbidden to lurk in parts
of the internet that might be frequented by children.


>
>----o----
>
>
>"This VAST RIGHT-WING CONSPIRACY that has been conspiring
>against my husband since the day he announced for President"
>-Hillary Clinton on the Today Show Jan 27, 1998
>
>As Bill Clinton said in a speech last week, referring
>to a range of conservative media: "They have a DESTRUCTION
>MACHINE. We don't have a DESTRUCTION MACHINE."
>-Bill Clinton in a speech addressing the Democratic Leadership Council
> on 2002 in New York
>
>A big THANK YOU to the Wicked Witch of the Left
>& the man from the Hope, Arkansas Trailer Park
>for giving me the inspiration for my nic.

--

What do you call a Republican with a conscience?

An ex-Republican.

"Prosperity and peace are in the balance," -- Putsch, not admitting that he's against both

Putsch: leading America to asymetric warfare since 2001

Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!

Pay your taxes so the rich don't have to.

Steve

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Feb 17, 2008, 2:51:16 PM2/17/08
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On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:58:08 GMT, 3960 Dead
<zepp22...@finestplanet.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 15:35:35 GMT, VRWC Destruction Machine
><Righ...@vrwcdm.com> wrote:
>
>>Steve <steven...@yahooooooo.com> wrote in crayon...
>>
>>>On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 14:44:03 GMT, VRWC Destruction Machine
>>><Righ...@vrwcdm.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Steve <steven...@yahooooooo.com> wrote in crayon...
>>>>
>>>>>Being an American is Zepp's holy grail.. mostly because he's been
>>>>>permanently barred from being an American.
>>>>
>>>>I thought Zepperhead was a Cannuckistani. He can't be an American
>>>>because he spends so much time try to bring America down.
>>>
>>>He says he was born in Canada.. I have a feeling he has no
>>>citizenship of any kind.. meaning that he can't even get a passport
>>>but he can't leave the USA anyway because he won't be able to get back
>>>in..
>>>
>>That situation usually applies to ILLEGAL Aliens.
>
>You have to keep in mind, little troll, that you are riffing off a
>psychotic and obsessive narcissist who is forbidden to lurk in parts
>of the internet that might be frequented by children.

Zepp needs to get a better handle on projections, as in the example
above as they provide such a good look into what kind of a perverted
person he really is...


I figure it's time to start considering legal action
against this little stalker.
Zepp Jamieson 2 Mar 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.democrats.d/msg/b503459d6b2db5b2?hl=en&

VRWC Destruction Machine

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Feb 18, 2008, 7:38:22 PM2/18/08
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3960 Dead <zepp22...@finestplanet.com> wrote in crayon...

>On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 15:35:35 GMT, VRWC Destruction Machine


><Righ...@vrwcdm.com> wrote:
>
>>Steve <steven...@yahooooooo.com> wrote in crayon...
>>
>>>On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 14:44:03 GMT, VRWC Destruction Machine
>>><Righ...@vrwcdm.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Steve <steven...@yahooooooo.com> wrote in crayon...
>>>>
>>>>>Being an American is Zepp's holy grail.. mostly because he's been
>>>>>permanently barred from being an American.
>>>>
>>>>I thought Zepperhead was a Cannuckistani. He can't be an American
>>>>because he spends so much time try to bring America down.
>>>
>>>He says he was born in Canada.. I have a feeling he has no
>>>citizenship of any kind.. meaning that he can't even get a passport
>>>but he can't leave the USA anyway because he won't be able to get back
>>>in..
>>>
>>That situation usually applies to ILLEGAL Aliens.
>
>You have to keep in mind, little troll, that you are riffing off a
>psychotic and obsessive narcissist who is forbidden to lurk in parts
>of the internet that might be frequented by children.

Sucks to be an illegal, eh Zepperhead?

VRWC Destruction Machine

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Feb 18, 2008, 7:41:17 PM2/18/08
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Steve <steven...@yahooooooo.com> wrote in crayon...

>On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:58:08 GMT, 3960 Dead
><zepp22...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 15:35:35 GMT, VRWC Destruction Machine
>><Righ...@vrwcdm.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Steve <steven...@yahooooooo.com> wrote in crayon...
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 14:44:03 GMT, VRWC Destruction Machine
>>>><Righ...@vrwcdm.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Steve <steven...@yahooooooo.com> wrote in crayon...
>>>>>
>>>>>>Being an American is Zepp's holy grail.. mostly because he's been
>>>>>>permanently barred from being an American.
>>>>>
>>>>>I thought Zepperhead was a Cannuckistani. He can't be an American
>>>>>because he spends so much time try to bring America down.
>>>>
>>>>He says he was born in Canada.. I have a feeling he has no
>>>>citizenship of any kind.. meaning that he can't even get a passport
>>>>but he can't leave the USA anyway because he won't be able to get back
>>>>in..
>>>>
>>>That situation usually applies to ILLEGAL Aliens.
>>
>>You have to keep in mind, little troll, that you are riffing off a
>>psychotic and obsessive narcissist who is forbidden to lurk in parts
>>of the internet that might be frequented by children.
>
>Zepp needs to get a better handle on projections, as in the example
>above as they provide such a good look into what kind of a perverted
>person he really is...
>

It's rather funny. It's so easy to get Zepperhead all flustered.
Anything on the net preceded with the "Zepp" moniker is comic relief.

3960 Dead

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Feb 18, 2008, 9:07:25 PM2/18/08
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On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:38:22 GMT, VRWC Destruction Machine
<Righ...@vrwcdm.com> wrote:

>3960 Dead <zepp22...@finestplanet.com> wrote in crayon...
>
>>On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 15:35:35 GMT, VRWC Destruction Machine
>><Righ...@vrwcdm.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Steve <steven...@yahooooooo.com> wrote in crayon...
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 14:44:03 GMT, VRWC Destruction Machine
>>>><Righ...@vrwcdm.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Steve <steven...@yahooooooo.com> wrote in crayon...
>>>>>
>>>>>>Being an American is Zepp's holy grail.. mostly because he's been
>>>>>>permanently barred from being an American.
>>>>>
>>>>>I thought Zepperhead was a Cannuckistani. He can't be an American
>>>>>because he spends so much time try to bring America down.
>>>>
>>>>He says he was born in Canada.. I have a feeling he has no
>>>>citizenship of any kind.. meaning that he can't even get a passport
>>>>but he can't leave the USA anyway because he won't be able to get back
>>>>in..
>>>>
>>>That situation usually applies to ILLEGAL Aliens.
>>
>>You have to keep in mind, little troll, that you are riffing off a
>>psychotic and obsessive narcissist who is forbidden to lurk in parts
>>of the internet that might be frequented by children.
>
>Sucks to be an illegal, eh Zepperhead?

Wouldn't know, cupcakes. But I bet YOU do.


>
>
>----o----
>
>
>"This VAST RIGHT-WING CONSPIRACY that has been conspiring
>against my husband since the day he announced for President"
>-Hillary Clinton on the Today Show Jan 27, 1998
>
>As Bill Clinton said in a speech last week, referring
>to a range of conservative media: "They have a DESTRUCTION
>MACHINE. We don't have a DESTRUCTION MACHINE."
>-Bill Clinton in a speech addressing the Democratic Leadership Council
> on 2002 in New York
>
>A big THANK YOU to the Wicked Witch of the Left
>& the man from the Hope, Arkansas Trailer Park
>for giving me the inspiration for my nic.

3960 Dead

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Feb 18, 2008, 9:08:14 PM2/18/08
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On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:41:17 GMT, VRWC Destruction Machine
<Righ...@vrwcdm.com> wrote:

Ask Steve why he's so afraid of us finding out who he is.

Go ahead.

We'll wait.


>
>----o----
>
>
>"This VAST RIGHT-WING CONSPIRACY that has been conspiring
>against my husband since the day he announced for President"
>-Hillary Clinton on the Today Show Jan 27, 1998
>
>As Bill Clinton said in a speech last week, referring
>to a range of conservative media: "They have a DESTRUCTION
>MACHINE. We don't have a DESTRUCTION MACHINE."
>-Bill Clinton in a speech addressing the Democratic Leadership Council
> on 2002 in New York
>
>A big THANK YOU to the Wicked Witch of the Left
>& the man from the Hope, Arkansas Trailer Park
>for giving me the inspiration for my nic.

Kurt Nicklas

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Feb 18, 2008, 9:31:18 PM2/18/08
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On Feb 18, 9:07 pm, 3960 Dead <zepp22113...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:38:22 GMT, VRWC Destruction Machine
>
>
>
>
>
> <Right...@vrwcdm.com> wrote:
> >3960 Dead <zepp22113...@finestplanet.com> wrote in crayon...

>
> >>On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 15:35:35 GMT, VRWC Destruction Machine
> >><Right...@vrwcdm.com> wrote:
>
> >>>Steve <stevencan...@yahooooooo.com> wrote in crayon...

>
> >>>>On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 14:44:03 GMT, VRWC Destruction Machine
> >>>><Right...@vrwcdm.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>Steve <stevencan...@yahooooooo.com> wrote in crayon...

>
> >>>>>>Being an American is Zepp's holy grail..  mostly because he's been
> >>>>>>permanently barred from being an American.
>
> >>>>>I thought Zepperhead was a Cannuckistani.  He can't be an American
> >>>>>because he spends so much time try to bring America down.
>
> >>>>He says he was born in Canada..  I have a feeling he has no
> >>>>citizenship of any kind..    meaning that he can't even get a passport
> >>>>but he can't leave the USA anyway because he won't be able to get back
> >>>>in..
>
> >>>That situation usually applies to ILLEGAL Aliens.
>
> >>You have to keep in mind, little troll, that you are riffing off a
> >>psychotic and obsessive narcissist who is forbidden to lurk in parts
> >>of the internet that might be frequented by children.
>
> >Sucks to be an illegal, eh Zepperhead?
>
> Wouldn't know, cupcakes.  But I bet YOU do.

By the way, PorkStock, you were going to produce that piece where
Tucker Carlson claimed to have interviewed 'lil ole me, right?

When can we expect to see that?

--------------------------------------------
"I'm supporting Edwards for now."
--------- 1/28/08

"Well, that's North Carolina. Whole state population's only got 14
chromosomes among them."
----------- 12/27/2006

Steve

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Feb 19, 2008, 5:11:50 AM2/19/08
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On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:08:14 GMT, 3960 Dead
<zepp22...@finestplanet.com> wrote:

How can that be when Zepp already knows who I am?


"Just like "Steve Canyon" did a couple of years ago when I called him
on his fantasy that he was a millionaire with yachts and apartment
complexes and who was an Indian married to a black woman and all these
other strange things. I even stumbled across his real identity, and
while I've never discussed it publically, you did mention it to him,
and he went berserk, remember?"
Zepp Jamieson 31 Mar 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.usa.republican/msg/fe9c048c552ef851?hl=en&


"I've got the word back on you from
Zepp. Your real name is Henry Selvitella"
Alric Knoodles Sep 24 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.bush/msg/1d12e417d7c6f999?hl=en&


"Parker is Steve Canyon, of course"
Zepp Jamieson Aug 7 2005
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/d12282dc011005ea?hl=en&

Kurt Nicklas

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Feb 19, 2008, 6:39:56 AM2/19/08
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On Feb 15, 8:37 pm, 3960 Dead <ze...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 21:55:36 GMT, VRWC Destruction Machine
>
>
>
>
>
> <Right...@vrwcdm.com> wrote:
> >3960 Dead <zepp22113...@finestplanet.com> wrote in crayon...

>
> >>On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:21:26 GMT, VRWC Destruction Machine
> >><Right...@vrwcdm.com> wrote:
>
> >>>3960 Dead <zepp22113...@finestplanet.com> wrote in crayon...

>
> >>>>On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 00:52:55 GMT, VRWC Destruction Machine
> >>>><Right...@vrwcdm.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>"free.tun...@gmail.com" <free.tun...@gmail.com> wrote in crayon...

Remember how you'll NEVER be an American, yah little Loony Lefty?


Steve

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Feb 19, 2008, 6:58:38 AM2/19/08
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...and perhaps Zepp should explain why he can't figure out who I
am.... and why he thinks that his inability to do so is any
reflection on me..

Maybe he should ask Shook who claims it's very easy to do....

<LOL> in fact, now Shook is claiming to know my name..

"The only reason I even know his name was because, when he first
started stalking me, I needed to know who I was dealing with,"
--Milt Shook
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.misc/msg/c40621c16ca02727

Kurt Lochner

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Feb 19, 2008, 7:25:29 AM2/19/08
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"sleaze" <semen...@yahooooooo.com> wrote in crayon:
>
> 3960 Dead wrote:
> >
> >half-vast right-wing destruction <Righ...@vrwcdm.com> wrote:
- --

> >>It's rather funny. It's so easy to get Zepperhead all flustered.
> >>Anything on the net preceded with the "Zepp" moniker is comic relief.
> >
> > Ask Steve why he's so afraid of us finding out who he is.
>
>How can that be [..]

Dunno, but it's certain that you aren't who you say you are..

--And have something to hide, besides an old sailboat..

VRWC Destruction Machine

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Feb 19, 2008, 10:19:05 AM2/19/08
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3960 Dead <zepp22...@finestplanet.com> wrote in crayon...

>On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:41:17 GMT, VRWC Destruction Machine

Is that what you do when no more idiotic replies?

VRWC Destruction Machine

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Feb 19, 2008, 10:21:34 AM2/19/08
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3960 Dead <zepp22...@finestplanet.com> wrote in crayon...

>On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:38:22 GMT, VRWC Destruction Machine
><Righ...@vrwcdm.com> wrote:
>
>>3960 Dead <zepp22...@finestplanet.com> wrote in crayon...
>>
>>>On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 15:35:35 GMT, VRWC Destruction Machine
>>><Righ...@vrwcdm.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Steve <steven...@yahooooooo.com> wrote in crayon...
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 14:44:03 GMT, VRWC Destruction Machine
>>>>><Righ...@vrwcdm.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Steve <steven...@yahooooooo.com> wrote in crayon...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Being an American is Zepp's holy grail.. mostly because he's been
>>>>>>>permanently barred from being an American.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I thought Zepperhead was a Cannuckistani. He can't be an American
>>>>>>because he spends so much time try to bring America down.
>>>>>
>>>>>He says he was born in Canada.. I have a feeling he has no
>>>>>citizenship of any kind.. meaning that he can't even get a passport
>>>>>but he can't leave the USA anyway because he won't be able to get back
>>>>>in..
>>>>>
>>>>That situation usually applies to ILLEGAL Aliens.
>>>
>>>You have to keep in mind, little troll, that you are riffing off a
>>>psychotic and obsessive narcissist who is forbidden to lurk in parts
>>>of the internet that might be frequented by children.
>>
>>Sucks to be an illegal, eh Zepperhead?
>
>Wouldn't know, cupcakes. But I bet YOU do.

I see no denial on your part, Zepperhead.

3960 Dead

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Feb 19, 2008, 10:28:27 AM2/19/08
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On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:19:05 GMT, VRWC Destruction Machine
<Righ...@vrwcdm.com> wrote:

Wow. Many of those words also appear in the English language.

With a head start like that, you should consider learning it.


>
>----o----
>
>
>"This VAST RIGHT-WING CONSPIRACY that has been conspiring
>against my husband since the day he announced for President"
>-Hillary Clinton on the Today Show Jan 27, 1998
>
>As Bill Clinton said in a speech last week, referring
>to a range of conservative media: "They have a DESTRUCTION
>MACHINE. We don't have a DESTRUCTION MACHINE."
>-Bill Clinton in a speech addressing the Democratic Leadership Council
> on 2002 in New York
>
>A big THANK YOU to the Wicked Witch of the Left
>& the man from the Hope, Arkansas Trailer Park
>for giving me the inspiration for my nic.

3960 Dead

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Feb 19, 2008, 10:29:11 AM2/19/08
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On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:21:34 GMT, VRWC Destruction Machine
<Righ...@vrwcdm.com> wrote:

Run along, little right winger. You're reduced to throwing straw on
behalf of the pedolphile, which tells me I've won the discussion.


>
>----o----
>
>
>"This VAST RIGHT-WING CONSPIRACY that has been conspiring
>against my husband since the day he announced for President"
>-Hillary Clinton on the Today Show Jan 27, 1998
>
>As Bill Clinton said in a speech last week, referring
>to a range of conservative media: "They have a DESTRUCTION
>MACHINE. We don't have a DESTRUCTION MACHINE."
>-Bill Clinton in a speech addressing the Democratic Leadership Council
> on 2002 in New York
>
>A big THANK YOU to the Wicked Witch of the Left
>& the man from the Hope, Arkansas Trailer Park
>for giving me the inspiration for my nic.

Steve

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Feb 19, 2008, 10:56:17 AM2/19/08
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Pedophilia seems to have become one of Jamieson's favorite topics
lately...

VRWC Destruction Machine

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Feb 19, 2008, 12:50:15 PM2/19/08
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Another idiotic reply, thanx Zepperhead.

VRWC Destruction Machine

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Feb 19, 2008, 12:57:18 PM2/19/08
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You are an illegal alien, eh? I must have won my discussion with you a
long time ago when you said, "Hey, remember when you used to be an


American, you cowardly little right wing cunt?"

You make it hard to believe you won any discussion, ever.

Scargo

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Feb 21, 2008, 8:18:41 AM2/21/08
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On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:21:34 GMT, VRWC Destruction Machine
<Righ...@vrwcdm.com> wrote:

What part of "Wouldn't know" did you not understand?

Scargo

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Feb 21, 2008, 8:18:46 AM2/21/08
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On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:29:11 -0800, 3960 Dead
<zepp22...@finestplanet.com> wrote:

Why do you call Canyon a pedophile?

3960 Dead

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Feb 21, 2008, 9:06:54 AM2/21/08
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Probably be easier to ask him what he DOES understand. It would be a
much shorter answer, and possibly even more coherent.

3960 Dead

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Well, couple of things. Here you've got this guy who loves to try to
bully and dominate people. He's got this immense ego that he has to
feed with sad fantasies about how he's a multimillionaire with yachts
and apartment complexes, a big shot lawyer for a mistress, and on and
on.

He's long since been discredited. Even the clowns who play up to him
because they think they can annoy liberals by doing so no longer
pretend to believe his stories. And the rest of us openly laugh at
them. He also is incapable of political debate, usually coming up
with hilariously bad misstatements that reveal that he knows little or
nothing about politics. He's openly admitted before that he takes
stands to annoy and disrupt other users, rather than any actual belief
in them.

He's widely ignored, and the few who do pay any attention laugh at
him. You would expect that he would have moved on to green pastures
long before now.

At the same time, he's utterly and abjectly afraid that people will
find out, and a couple of users have made it clear that they've made
it their business to stalk him just as he's stalked us. (Stalking
behavior, of course, is another effort at domination).

So let's see: we have someone who likes to dominate, control, and
manipulate people he sees as weaker than him (and he loves to claim
liberals are weak). He's been unsucessful here, and indeed is under
indirect threat if he continues his behavior.

And yet he can't move on. Why is that?

The political groups are one place on the web where you aren't going
to find children. There also an area with a group of people he can
TRY to dominate, the same way a pedophile dominates children, through
threats and claims of superiority.

There's no reason for him to stay. He's a failed troll, and obviously
afraid of being outed. But he can't leave. There are few, if any,
places he can go.

That's not PROOF he's a pedophile, of course. He's denied it, in
fact, although part of his schitick is that he can openly and
blatently lie in his posts, and he clearly enjoys doing so.

It may well be that he really is nothing more than a narcissist with
an obsessive compulsive disorder. That would explain his behavior,
too.

But the deep fear he shows of being discovered, combined with his
inability to simply move on to a new set of victims, suggests
something much darker, and that fits the bill.

Steve

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Feb 21, 2008, 11:54:49 AM2/21/08
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On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 06:23:07 -0800, 3960 Dead
<zepp22...@finestplanet.com> wrote:

Poor loons have made all sorts of silly attempts to make me stop
reposting their lies and ignorance...

>He's widely ignored, and the few who do pay any attention laugh at
>him. You would expect that he would have moved on to green pastures
>long before now.
>
>At the same time, he's utterly and abjectly afraid that people will
>find out, and a couple of users have made it clear that they've made
>it their business to stalk him just as he's stalked us. (Stalking
>behavior, of course, is another effort at domination).

errr, so somebody claims to be stalking me? ...well golly.. I didn't
know that... but if that's true, I think it's sort of fun.....

<LOL> ...Bring it on....

>So let's see: we have someone who likes to dominate, control, and
>manipulate people he sees as weaker than him (and he loves to claim
>liberals are weak). He's been unsucessful here, and indeed is under
>indirect threat if he continues his behavior.

wow.... indirect threat?

bring it on....

>And yet he can't move on. Why is that?

It's because the leftist loons are so entertaining.

>The political groups are one place on the web where you aren't going
>to find children.

Immature leftists like the weasels....

>There also an area with a group of people he can
>TRY to dominate, the same way a pedophile dominates children, through
>threats and claims of superiority.

Zepp seems to know so much about pedophilia..... why is that?

>There's no reason for him to stay. He's a failed troll, and obviously
>afraid of being outed. But he can't leave. There are few, if any,
>places he can go.

So if I was so afraid of being "outed," why do I keep slapping all
these lefty loons around here?

>That's not PROOF he's a pedophile, of course. He's denied it, in
>fact, although part of his schitick is that he can openly and
>blatently lie in his posts, and he clearly enjoys doing so.

Actually, I don't bother to deny any of Zepp's silliness.. He's
welcome to post as many of his wild fantasies about me as he can come
up with...

>It may well be that he really is nothing more than a narcissist with
>an obsessive compulsive disorder. That would explain his behavior,
>too.
>
>But the deep fear he shows of being discovered, combined with his
>inability to simply move on to a new set of victims, suggests
>something much darker, and that fits the bill.

Wow... Poor Zepp fantasizes all that about me.. I truly have
underestimated the powers of his imagination...

VRWC Destruction Machine

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Feb 21, 2008, 7:22:18 PM2/21/08
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Scargo <nota...@ble.net> wrote in crayon...

Zepperhead is an America hating Cannuck. He claims to be living in the
United States. Did he come here illegally or by legal means? He won't
deny that he came here illegally. Before you chime in on a thread, you
should read the entire thread if you want join the discussion. Is that
asking too much of you?

Steve

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Feb 21, 2008, 7:33:58 PM2/21/08
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On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:22:18 GMT, VRWC Destruction Machine
<Righ...@vrwcdm.com> wrote:

I think Zepp (David) probably has a green card... its just that he
can't get US citizenship. Not ever... had to do with the raft back
during Nam. See below:

steven...@yahoo.com

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Feb 22, 2008, 10:23:39 AM2/22/08
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On Feb 21, 9:23 am, 3960 Dead <zepp22113...@finestplanet.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:18:46 -0500, Scargo <notav...@ble.net> wrote:
> >On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:29:11 -0800, 3960 Dead

> >Why do you call Canyon a pedophile?


>
> Well, couple of things. Here you've got this guy who loves to try to
> bully and dominate people. He's got this immense ego that he has to
> feed with sad fantasies about how he's a multimillionaire with yachts
> and apartment complexes, a big shot lawyer for a mistress, and on and
> on.

<LOL> ..This from Fatty Jamieson who can't even figure out my name,
let alone what I own and who I sleep with,,,

> He's long since been discredited. Even the clowns who play up to him
> because they think they can annoy liberals by doing so no longer
> pretend to believe his stories.

Poor David Jamieson... he's seen his pathetic, miserable life
chronicled here on Usenet and all he can do is bluster and fume about
it...

> And the rest of us openly laugh at
> them.

<LOL> That I've been threatened with law suits says something
entirely different.

He also is incapable of political debate, usually coming up
> with hilariously bad misstatements that reveal that he knows little or
> nothing about politics.

More undocumented bluster....

>He's openly admitted before that he takes
> stands to annoy and disrupt other users, rather than any actual belief
> in them.

More bullshit...

> He's widely ignored, and the few who do pay any attention laugh at
> him.

...and yet spends all this time trying to discredit me.

You would expect that he would have moved on to green pastures
> long before now.

You hope....

> At the same time, he's utterly and abjectly afraid that people will
> find out, and a couple of users have made it clear that they've made
> it their business to stalk him just as he's stalked us. (Stalking
> behavior, of course, is another effort at domination).

So when am I going to hear from this mysterious user? ...and surely
you can't be speaking of Lochner's nonsense.. That pathetic moron
thinks I'm posting from somewhere in Tampa where the little arrow on
the IP tracking site falls for anyone posting in the Tampa Bay area..

VRWC Destruction Machine

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Feb 22, 2008, 12:00:39 PM2/22/08
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A situation shared by all illegal aliens.

Steve

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Feb 22, 2008, 1:01:37 PM2/22/08
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On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:00:39 GMT, VRWC Destruction Machine
<Righ...@vrwcdm.com> wrote:

Yet even those illegal aliens do have a country they can go home to...
Poor David is in limbo-land... not happy here and nowhere else he can
go...


"a couple of users have made it clear that they've made
it their business to stalk him just as he's stalked us."

David (Zepp) Jamieson Feb 21, 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/9ff12a04c549088e

Kurt Nicklas

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Feb 25, 2008, 11:14:23 AM2/25/08
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On Feb 22, 10:23 am, "stevencan...@yahoo.com" <stevencan...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Locknutz has located me in Rocky Mount. I so afraid his mafia will be
pounding
on my door any minute.

{snickers}

Steve

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Feb 25, 2008, 11:44:10 AM2/25/08
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Not to worry,... Lochner's mother doesn't allow him to leave her for
more than an afternoon... and none of the weasels can afford bus
fare anyway.

...and Jamieson is back to making idle threats in my direction...
between claims of ignoring me....

Last I heard me Lochner had me "pinned down" to one of the 3 million
people that live in the Tampa Bay area.. ...and Shook pretends that
he knows my "real" name which he procured through his vast network of
secret agents and underground spies...

Poor Shook would like people to believe that he's more than the
lonely, friendless, pathetic loser that he is.... He's not having
much luck with that lately.. Most of his former chatroom friends
have trouble keeping a straight face when they see his name....

"a couple of users have made it clear that they've made
it their business to stalk him just as he's stalked us."

--David (Zepp) Jamieson Feb 21, 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/9ff12a04c549088e


Canyon note: .and this is supoosed to be part of their ignoring me?

Kurt Lochner

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Feb 25, 2008, 12:11:25 PM2/25/08
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"semen...@yahoo.com" <semen...@yahoo.com> whimpered again:
-

>Last I heard me Lochner had me "pinned down" to one of the
>3 million people that live in the Tampa Bay area..

With IP-addresses that Fatt Guywire uses..

Now, what were you saying about Coloumb's Law?

>Coulomb's Law
>"Like charges repel, unlike charges attract."

Nope.. Here's "Coloumb's Law"..

http://ffden-2.phys.uaf.edu/212_fall2003.web.dir/Kevin_Jones/coulombslaw.html

"The force that one particle exerts on another particle is
directly proportional to the product of their charges and
inversely proportional to the square of their separation."

--*>LOL!<* Your arrogance is surpassed only by your stupidity..
________________________________________________________________

Canyon <steven...@nospam.yahoo.com> Wed, 26 Feb 2003 17:11:30 GMT
news:<i4tp5v4c5ulhakvei...@4ax.com>

"I never made any claims I couldn't back up...."
--
Canyon <parkie...@nospam.yahoo.com> Wed, 26 Feb 2003 19:59:42 GMT
news:<rg6q5vgq29cerpocl...@4ax.com>

"I don't need to back anything up,"
--
Steven Canyon <Ga...@dog.soldiers> Tue, 13 Aug 2002 13:57:10 GMT
news:<jc1iluog2emtkjqso...@4ax.com>

"I have no need to demonstrate what I know,[..]"

steven...@yahoo.com

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Feb 25, 2008, 1:07:04 PM2/25/08
to
On Feb 25, 12:11 pm, Kurt Lochner <kurt_loch...@DONOTSPAMhotmail.com>
wrote:
> "semencan...@yahoo.com" <semencan...@yahoo.com> whimpered again:

> -
>
> >Last I heard me Lochner had me "pinned down" to one of the
> >3 million people that live in the Tampa Bay area..
>
> With IP-addresses that Fatt Guywire uses..

On the other hand, I might be somewhere else..

Kurt Lochner

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Feb 25, 2008, 1:27:12 PM2/25/08
to
"semen...@yahoo.com" <semen...@yahoo.com> whimpered again:
>
> Kurt Lochner was again exploiiting the pahology exhibited by:
> >
> >"semen...@yahoo.com" <semen...@yahoo.com> whimpered again:
- -->

> > >Last I heard me Lochner had me "pinned down" to one of the
> > >3 million people that live in the Tampa Bay area..
> >
> > With IP-addresses that Fatt Guywire uses..
> >
> > Now, what were you saying about Coloumb's Law?
> >
> > >Coulomb's Law
> > >"Like charges repel, unlike charges attract."
> >
> > Nope.. Here's "Coloumb's Law"..
> >
> > http://ffden-2.phys.uaf.edu/212_fall2003.web.dir/Kevin_Jones/coulombslaw.html
> >
> > "The force that one particle exerts on another particle is
> > directly proportional to the product of their charges and
> > inversely proportional to the square of their separation."
> >
> > --*>LOL!<* Your arrogance is surpassed only by your stupidity..
>
>On the other hand, I might be somewhere else..

Or be someone else entirely, but still a stupid right-wing moron..

--You deleted the part where you screwed up Coloumb's Law..

steven...@yahoo.com

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Feb 25, 2008, 1:38:46 PM2/25/08
to
On Feb 25, 1:27 pm, Kurt Lochner <kurt_loch...@DONOTSPAMhotmail.com>
wrote:
> "semencan...@yahoo.com" <semencan...@yahoo.com> whimpered again:

>
>
>
>
>
> > Kurt Lochner was again exploiiting the pahology exhibited by:
>
> > >"semencan...@yahoo.com" <semencan...@yahoo.com> whimpered again:

> - -->
> > > >Last I heard me Lochner had me "pinned down" to one of the
> > > >3 million people that live in the Tampa Bay area..
>
> > > With IP-addresses that Fatt Guywire uses..
>
> > > Now, what were you saying about Coloumb's Law?
>
> > > >Coulomb's Law
> > > >"Like charges repel, unlike charges attract."
>
> > > Nope.. Here's "Coloumb's Law"..
>
> > >http://ffden-2.phys.uaf.edu/212_fall2003.web.dir/Kevin_Jones/coulombs...

>
> > > "The force that one particle exerts on another particle is
> > > directly proportional to the product of their charges and
> > > inversely proportional to the square of their separation."
>
> > > --*>LOL!<* Your arrogance is surpassed only by your stupidity..
>
> >On the other hand, I might be somewhere else..
>
> Or be someone else entirely, but still a stupid right-wing moron..
>

<LOL> I'm everyone, Licknutz and your pitiful attempts at "stalking"
me is laughable. You couldn't track a fart through your mother's
bedroom.....

Kurt Lochner

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Feb 25, 2008, 1:48:49 PM2/25/08
to
"semen...@yahoo.com" <semen...@yahoo.com> whimpered again:
>
> Kurt Lochner was again exploiting the pathology exhibited by:
> >
> >"semen...@yahoo.com" <semen...@yahoo.com> whimpered again:
> > >
> > > Kurt Lochner was again exploiting the pathology exhibited by:
> > > >
> > > >"semen...@yahoo.com" <semen...@yahoo.com> whimpered again:
- - - -->

> > > > >Last I heard me Lochner had me "pinned down" to one of the
> > > > >3 million people that live in the Tampa Bay area..
> > > >
> > > > With IP-addresses that Fatt Guywire uses..
> > > >
> > > > Now, what were you saying about Coloumb's Law?
> > > >
> > > > >Coulomb's Law
> > > > >"Like charges repel, unlike charges attract."
> > > >
> > > > Nope.. Here's "Coloumb's Law"..
> > > >
> > > > http://ffden-2.phys.uaf.edu/212_fall2003.web.dir/Kevin_Jones/coulombslaw.html

> > > >
> > > > "The force that one particle exerts on another particle is
> > > > directly proportional to the product of their charges and
> > > > inversely proportional to the square of their separation."
> > > >
> > > > --*>LOL!<* Your arrogance is surpassed only by your stupidity..
> > >
> > >On the other hand, I might be somewhere else..
> >
> > Or be someone else entirely, but still a stupid right-wing moron..
> >
> > --You deleted the part where you screwed up Coloumb's Law..
>
><LOL> I'm everyone[..]

No, you're a laughably immature, intentionally ignorant right-wing
zealot..

--See subject header for clue, collect the whole set..

steven...@yahoo.com

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Feb 25, 2008, 2:00:20 PM2/25/08
to
On Feb 25, 1:48 pm, Kurt Lochner <kurt_loch...@DONOTSPAMhotmail.com>
wrote:
> "semencan...@yahoo.com" <semencan...@yahoo.com> whimpered again:

>
>
>
>
>
> > Kurt Lochner was again exploiting the pathology exhibited by:
>
> > >"semencan...@yahoo.com" <semencan...@yahoo.com> whimpered again:

>
> > > > Kurt Lochner was again exploiting the pathology exhibited by:
>
> > > > >"semencan...@yahoo.com" <semencan...@yahoo.com> whimpered again:

> - - - -->
> > > > > >Last I heard me Lochner had me "pinned down" to one of the
> > > > > >3 million people that live in the Tampa Bay area..
>
> > > > > With IP-addresses that Fatt Guywire uses..
>
> > > > > Now, what were you saying about Coloumb's Law?
>
> > > > > >Coulomb's Law
> > > > > >"Like charges repel, unlike charges attract."
>
> > > > > Nope.. Here's "Coloumb's Law"..
>
> > > > >http://ffden-2.phys.uaf.edu/212_fall2003.web.dir/Kevin_Jones/coulombs...

>
> > > > > "The force that one particle exerts on another particle is
> > > > > directly proportional to the product of their charges and
> > > > > inversely proportional to the square of their separation."
>
> > > > > --*>LOL!<* Your arrogance is surpassed only by your stupidity..
>
> > > >On the other hand, I might be somewhere else..
>
> > > Or be someone else entirely, but still a stupid right-wing moron..
>
> > > --You deleted the part where you screwed up Coloumb's Law..
>
> ><LOL> I'm everyone[..]
>
> No, you're a laughably immature, intentionally ignorant right-wing
> zealot..
>
> --See subject header for clue, collect the whole set..

That's from Liknutz Lochner who thinks the IP trace sites will track
soneone to their address.

Where am I, Licky, an for that matter, who am I?.

Kurt Lochner

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Feb 25, 2008, 2:04:17 PM2/25/08
to
"semen...@yahoo.com" <semen...@yahoo.com> whimpered on command:
>
> Kurt Lochner continued to elicit knee-jerk responses from:
> >
> >"semen...@yahoo.com" <semen...@yahoo.com> whimpered again:

> > >
> > > Kurt Lochner was again exploiting the pathology exhibited by:
> > > >
> > > >"semen...@yahoo.com" <semen...@yahoo.com> whimpered again:

> > > > >
> > > > > Kurt Lochner was again exploiting the pathology exhibited by:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >"semen...@yahoo.com" <semen...@yahoo.com> whimpered again:
- - - - - -->

> > > > > > >Last I heard me Lochner had me "pinned down" to one of the
> > > > > > >3 million people that live in the Tampa Bay area..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > With IP-addresses that Fatt Guywire uses..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now, what were you saying about Coloumb's Law?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >Coulomb's Law
> > > > > > >"Like charges repel, unlike charges attract."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nope.. Here's "Coloumb's Law"..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://ffden-2.phys.uaf.edu/212_fall2003.web.dir/Kevin_Jones/coulombslaw.html

> > > > > >
> > > > > > "The force that one particle exerts on another particle is
> > > > > > directly proportional to the product of their charges and
> > > > > > inversely proportional to the square of their separation."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --*>LOL!<* Your arrogance is surpassed only by your stupidity..
> > > > >
> > > > >On the other hand, I might be somewhere else..
> > > >
> > > > Or be someone else entirely, but still a stupid right-wing moron..
> > > >
> > > > --You deleted the part where you screwed up Coloumb's Law..
> > >
> > ><LOL> I'm everyone[..]
> >
> > No, you're a laughably immature, intentionally ignorant right-wing
> > zealot..
> >
> > --See subject header for clue, collect the whole set..
>
>That's from Liknutz Lochner who thinks the IP trace sites[..]

How's your Panera Bread today, "stephie"?

--Are you working the check-out counter finally?

Kurt Lochner

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Feb 25, 2008, 2:21:57 PM2/25/08
to
"semencanyon" <semen...@rampabay.rr.com> whined the usual:
>
> 3960 Dead wrote:
> >
> >Scargo <nota...@ble.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > 3960 Dead replied:
- - -->

> > > > Run along, little right winger. You're reduced to throwing straw on
> > > > behalf of the pedolphile, which tells me I've won the discussion.
> > >
> > >Why do you call Canyon a pedophile?
> >
> > Well, couple of things. Here you've got this guy who loves to try to
> > bully and dominate people. He's got this immense ego that he has to
> > feed with sad fantasies about how he's a multimillionaire with yachts
> > and apartment complexes, a big shot lawyer for a mistress, and on and
> > on.
> >
> > He's long since been discredited. Even the clowns who play up to him
> > because they think they can annoy liberals by doing so no longer
> > pretend to believe his stories. And the rest of us openly laugh at
> > them. He also is incapable of political debate, usually coming up
> > with hilariously bad misstatements that reveal that he knows little or
> > nothing about politics. He's openly admitted before that he takes
> > stands to annoy and disrupt other users, rather than any actual belief
> > in them.
> >
> > He's widely ignored, and the few who do pay any attention laugh at
> > him. You would expect that he would have moved on to green pastures
> > long before now.
> >
> > At the same time, he's utterly and abjectly afraid that people will
> > find out, and a couple of users have made it clear that they've made
> > it their business to stalk him just as he's stalked us. (Stalking
> > behavior, of course, is another effort at domination).
> >
> > So let's see: we have someone who likes to dominate, control, and
> > manipulate people he sees as weaker than him (and he loves to claim
> > liberals are weak). He's been unsucessful here, and indeed is under
> > indirect threat if he continues his behavior.
> >
> > And yet he can't move on. Why is that?
> >
> > The political groups are one place on the web where you aren't going
> > to find children. There also an area with a group of people he can

> > TRY to dominate, the same way a pedophile dominates children, through
> > threats and claims of superiority.
> >
> > There's no reason for him to stay. He's a failed troll, and obviously
> > afraid of being outed. But he can't leave. There are few, if any,
> > places he can go.
> >
> > That's not PROOF he's a pedophile, of course. He's denied it, in
> > fact, although part of his schitick is that he can openly and
> > blatently lie in his posts, and he clearly enjoys doing so.
> >
> > It may well be that he really is nothing more than a narcissist with
> > an obsessive compulsive disorder. That would explain his behavior,
> > too.
> >
> > But the deep fear he shows of being discovered, combined with his
> > inability to simply move on to a new set of victims, suggests
> > something much darker, and that fits the bill.
> > --
>
>Poor loons have made all sorts of silly attempts [..]
[..]
>errr, so somebody claims to be stalking me? [..]
[..]

>wow.... indirect threat?
>bring it on....
[..]

>Immature leftists like the weasels....
[..]
>Zepp seems to know so much about pedophilia [..]
[..]
>So if I was so afraid of being "outed," [..]
[..]
>Actually, I don't bother to deny [..]

Got any of those "magnetic capacitors" yet, "stephie"?

--Or, will you admit that you screwed up Coloumb's Law?
____________________________________________________________________

steven...@yahoo.com

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Feb 25, 2008, 2:56:22 PM2/25/08
to
On Feb 25, 2:04 pm, Kurt Lochner <kurt_loch...@DONOTSPAMhotmail.com>
wrote:
> "semencan...@yahoo.com" <semencan...@yahoo.com> whimpered on command:

>
>
>
>
>
> > Kurt Lochner continued to elicit knee-jerk responses from:
>
> > >"semencan...@yahoo.com" <semencan...@yahoo.com> whimpered again:

>
> > > > Kurt Lochner was again exploiting the pathology exhibited by:
>
> > > > >"semencan...@yahoo.com" <semencan...@yahoo.com> whimpered again:

>
> > > > > > Kurt Lochner was again exploiting the pathology exhibited by:
>
> > > > > > >"semencan...@yahoo.com" <semencan...@yahoo.com> whimpered again:

> - - - - - -->
> > > > > > > >Last I heard me Lochner had me "pinned down" to one of the
> > > > > > > >3 million people that live in the Tampa Bay area..
>
> > > > > > > With IP-addresses that Fatt Guywire uses..
>
> > > > > > > Now, what were you saying about Coloumb's Law?
>
> > > > > > > >Coulomb's Law
> > > > > > > >"Like charges repel, unlike charges attract."
>
> > > > > > > Nope.. Here's "Coloumb's Law"..
>
> > > > > > >http://ffden-2.phys.uaf.edu/212_fall2003.web.dir/Kevin_Jones/coulombs...

>
> > > > > > > "The force that one particle exerts on another particle is
> > > > > > > directly proportional to the product of their charges and
> > > > > > > inversely proportional to the square of their separation."
>
> > > > > > > --*>LOL!<* Your arrogance is surpassed only by your stupidity..
>
> > > > > >On the other hand, I might be somewhere else..
>
> > > > > Or be someone else entirely, but still a stupid right-wing moron..
>
> > > > > --You deleted the part where you screwed up Coloumb's Law..
>
> > > ><LOL> I'm everyone[..]
>
> > > No, you're a laughably immature, intentionally ignorant right-wing
> > > zealot..
>
> > > --See subject header for clue, collect the whole set..
>
> >That's from Liknutz Lochner who thinks the IP trace sites[..]
>
> How's your Panera Bread today, "stephie"?

Poor Licky.. are you still addicted to those useless free IP tracking
and Whois sites?

They aren't going to help you stalk me.... you don't have the
brains anyway...

Kurt Lochner

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Feb 25, 2008, 3:05:12 PM2/25/08
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"semen...@yahoo.com" <semen...@yahoo.com> knee-jerked on command:

>
> Kurt Lochner continued to elicit knee-jerk responses from:
> >
> >"semen...@yahoo.com" <semen...@yahoo.com> whimpered on command:

> > >
> > > Kurt Lochner continued to elicit knee-jerk responses from:
> > > >
> > > >"semen...@yahoo.com" <semen...@yahoo.com> whimpered again:

> > > > >
> > > > > Kurt Lochner was again exploiting the pathology exhibited by:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >"semen...@yahoo.com" <semen...@yahoo.com> whimpered again:

- - - - - -->
> > > > > > >On the other hand, I might be somewhere else..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Or be someone else entirely, but still a stupid right-wing moron..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --You deleted the part where you screwed up Coloumb's Law..
> > > > >
> > > > ><LOL> I'm everyone[..]
> > > >
> > > > No, you're a laughably immature, intentionally ignorant right-wing
> > > > zealot..
> > > >
> > > > --See subject header for clue, collect the whole set..
> > >
> > >That's from Liknutz Lochner who thinks the IP trace sites[..]
> >
> > How's your Panera Bread today, "stephie"?
>
>Poor Licky.. are you still addicted [..]

Nope, still clean and sober, unlike yourself it seems..

Steve

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Feb 25, 2008, 3:15:40 PM2/25/08
to


..this has been your nose tweaking for the day, Licky. See ya...

"a couple of users have made it clear that they've made
it their business to stalk him just as he's stalked us."

Kurt Lochner

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Feb 25, 2008, 3:26:16 PM2/25/08
to
"stephen" <semen...@yahoo.com> knee-jerked on command when:

>
> Kurt Lochner continued to elicit knee-jerk responses from:
> >
> >"semen...@yahoo.com" <semen...@yahoo.com> knee-jerked on command:
> > >
> > > Kurt Lochner continued to elicit knee-jerk responses from:
> > > >
> > > >"semen...@yahoo.com" <semen...@yahoo.com> whimpered on command:
> > > > >
> > > > > Kurt Lochner continued to elicit knee-jerk responses from:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >"semen...@yahoo.com" <semen...@yahoo.com> whimpered again:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kurt Lochner was again exploiting the pathology exhibited by:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >"semen...@yahoo.com" <semen...@yahoo.com> whimpered again:
- - - - - - - -->

> > > > > > > > >On the other hand, I might be somewhere else..
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Or be someone else entirely, but still a stupid right-wing moron..
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --You deleted the part where you screwed up Coloumb's Law..
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > ><LOL> I'm everyone[..]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No, you're a laughably immature, intentionally ignorant right-wing
> > > > > > zealot..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --See subject header for clue, collect the whole set..
> > > > >
> > > > >That's from Liknutz Lochner who thinks the IP trace sites[..]
> > > >
> > > > How's your Panera Bread today, "stephie"?
> > >
> > >Poor Licky.. are you still addicted [..]
> >
> > Nope, still clean and sober, unlike yourself it seems..
> >
> > --Are you working the check-out counter finally?
>
>..this has been your nose tweaking for the day [..]

Translation: After a major faux pas on Coloumb's Law, Crayon
will now be leaving the thread to avoid further embarrassment
at his own game of stalking those who do not share his criminally
obsessive traits and deviant desires of fulfilling his malignant
narcissism..

--Got any "magnetic capacitors"? What about Coloumb's Law?

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Feb 25, 2008, 8:41:35 PM2/25/08
to
On Feb 25, 2:00 pm, "stevencan...@yahoo.com" <stevencan...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Get Iris to let you use your IP Detector(c) again and tell me where I
am,
Licknitz.

{snickers}

Steve

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Feb 26, 2008, 5:27:49 AM2/26/08
to

Iris hasn't helped her little Licky boy to locate me
either....Yesterday I popped him a IP that showed me to be a thousand
miles away from Tampa Bay... The poor little fella is still
scratchin' his head over that.

That stalking that Zepp's talking about is well beyond Lochner's
limited capacity... The reason he still lives with Iris is because
she's still helping him with his toilet training.

Maybe Iris will tell him what columb's law says too....

Kurt Lochner

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Feb 26, 2008, 9:10:42 AM2/26/08
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"sleaze" <semen...@yahooooooooo.com> whimpered again:

>Maybe Iris will tell him what columb's law says too....

*>LOL!<* Still hurtin' and squirtin' over how you screwed
the 'pooge' on Coloumb's Law, sparky?

Hell, now you can't even spell "coloumb".. *>chuckling<*

--Got any of those "magnetic capacitors" yet, "stephen"?
____________________________________________________________________

Sun, 24 Feb 2008 15:28:01 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID:
53150fee-bc34-40e3-912c-be62297c363b%4072g2000hsu.googlegroups.com

> Coulomb's Law
>"Like charges repel, unlike charges attract."

Nope.. Here's "Coloumb's Law"..

http://ffden-2.phys.uaf.edu/212_fall2003.web.dir/Kevin_Jones/coulombslaw.html

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