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nee...@syix.com

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Feb 21, 2003, 10:11:39 PM2/21/03
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Thanks teapot for confirming that Maichael Savage has liberals
absolutely frighten out of their wits.

For those who want to find out for THEMSLEVES what Michael is all
about instead of depending on the DNC spin version, go to his official
web site at:

http://www.michaelsavage.com/

And for Michael's book, "The Savage Nation" which has once again hit
the New York Times best seller list, see:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/104-4255549-3087952

Michael has the liberals at the Times are once again refilling their
prozac meds...

"Liberalism is a mental disorder.

Michael Savage"

LN


On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 23:20:33 GMT, Tempest <tem...@hotmail.com> wrote:

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>And it ain't pretty.
>
>http://www.michaelsavagesucks.com/

Bush Busta

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On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 19:11:39 -0800, "nee...@syix.com"
<nee...@syix.com> wrote:

>Thanks teapot for confirming that Maichael Savage has liberals
>absolutely frighten out of their wits.
>
>For those who want to find out for THEMSLEVES what Michael is all
>about instead of depending on the DNC spin version, go to his official
>web site at:
>
>http://www.michaelsavage.com/

Then read what this asshole REALLY stands for:

Savage with the Truth..The man Who Makes Limbaugh Look Sane and
Logical

Ben Fritz, Salon, February 19, 2003

http://www.salon.com/books/review/2003/02/19/savage/print.html

Conservative radio hosts have come to dominate the airwaves with
ferocious rhetoric that's often filled with ad hominem attacks and
blatant untruths, but Michael Savage is easily the worst of the bunch.
Savage, who makes Rush Limbaugh look reasonable, isn't just a radio
personality anymore. His book "The Savage Nation: Saving America From
the Liberal Assault on Our Borders, Language and Culture" has reached
the top of the New York Times bestseller list, and Savage has been
rewarded with his own weekly MSNBC show as part of that struggling
cable network's efforts to improve its ratings.

Criticizing the rhetoric on Savage's radio show, which has about 5
million listeners and airs on over 300 stations, is a relatively easy
task, as evidenced last week when MSNBC announced Savage's new show.
The liberal media watchdog group FAIR, for instance, immediately
responded with a press release pointing out that Savage often refers
to Third World nations as "turd world nations." In addition, Savage
has said the U.S. "is being taken over by the freaks, the cripples,
the perverts and the mental defectives," and said of poor immigrants,
"You open the door to them, and the next thing you know, they are
defecating on your country and breeding out of control."

But there's more to Savage than the sum of his hateful quotes. Known
before his radio career began as Michael A. Weiner, he's also an
ethnobotanist with a Ph.D. from the University of California who wrote
a number of books about natural healing and nutritional supplements
with titles like "Herbs That Heal." Savage became an author after he
failed to get an academic position, a result he blames in his book on
affirmative action and his status as a white male: "For here I was, a
'manchild in the promised land,' denied my birthright for matters of
race."

In 1995, in the aftermath of the Republican takeover of Congress,
which many credited to Limbaugh and other conservative talk radio
hosts, Savage launched his show on San Francisco talk station KSFO,
eventually landing a national syndication deal and becoming, according
to Talkers magazine, the fifth most popular talk-radio host in the
country.

It's worth noting, however, that Savage attempted to return to
academia in 1996, when he applied to be dean of U.C. Berkeley's School
of Journalism based on less than two years of experience in radio and
his Ph.D. in epidemiology and nutrition science. When he wasn't
granted an interview, Savage filed a lawsuit that, unsurprisingly,
didn't go anywhere.

Unlike Limbaugh and the increasingly popular Sean Hannity, Savage
spends little time in his book praising President Bush or the
Republican Party, or spreading false tropes that circulate in the
conservative media. Unlike Hannity's "Let Freedom Ring," for example,
which often reads like a collection of Republican talking points, "The
Savage Nation" is an almost unreadable amalgamation of virulent
attacks on liberals, feminism, Islam and gays. It wouldn't be much of
a surprise if people like MSNBC president Erik Sorenson, who called
Savage "brash, passionate and smart" in a press release, haven't
actually opened the book.

If Sorenson did read "The Savage Nation," one has to wonder what he
thought of Savage's description of MSNBC correspondent Ashleigh
Banfield, whom he calls "the mind slut with a big pair of glasses that
they sent to Afghanistan," adding, "She looks like she went from porno
into reporting." Those aren't the only kind words Savage has for
successful women, though. "Today in America," he writes, "we have a
'she-ocracy' where a minority of feminist zealots rule the culture."
In Savage's mind, this "she-ocracy" includes not only the usual
conservative targets like Sens. Hillary Clinton and Barbara Boxer, but
even right-leaning Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor, a Reagan
appointee.

One can only hope Sorenson didn't refer to Savage as "smart" based on
his insights into the fight against terrorism or, as he calls those
who took down the World Trade Center, "pirates in filthy nightshirts."
Savage states flat out in his book what several mainstream
conservative commentators, like Hannity, have only dared to hint --
that American liberals are a threat equal to terrorists. "To fight
only the al-Qaida scum is to miss the terrorist network operating
within our own borders," he states. "Who are these traitors? Every
rotten radical left-winger in this country, that's who."

Lest one think Savage is only talking about the truly radical left, he
makes clear that he includes most Democratic leaders and center-left
foreign leaders on that list. Former President Bill Clinton, Senate
Minority Leader Tom Daschle, German Chancellor Gerhard Schröder and
British Prime Minister Tony Blair are all "New World Order Socialists"
to Savage, with Blair earning the extra moniker of "Third Way Führer
Blair."

Savage's rants against liberals also occasionally include the
obsession of radical right-wingers with a one-world government. "[The
liberal agenda] is all about one oppressive central government ruling
the whole world," he says. "This is the utopia the left has in mind
for us." Savage is fiercely bipartisan when it comes to one-world
government, though, adding later on, "I've said for a long time that
we have a 'Republicrat' or 'Demican' oligarchy in America and that
most of our politicians are pawns controlled by their one-world puppet
masters behind the scenes."

Most of the book consists of fact-free rants such as these; "The
Savage Nation" doesn't bother with notes, and doesn't even have an
index. Like Ann Coulter, Michael Moore and Hannity, when Savage does
bother with facts, he often gets them wrong. He says that "the divorce
rate has doubled since 1970," but according to federal statistics,
while the divorce rate was 3.5 per 1,000 people in 1970, it never came
close to doubling, and was 4.7 in 2000.

Using a study by Tokyo University scientists as data, Savage mocks
former Vice President Al Gore's efforts "to combat the evils of global
warming and the ozone depletion [sic]" and asks "Why won't Al, the
global warming bogeyman, back down?" That study, however, found only
that the ozone hole in the Southern Hemisphere would heal itself by
2040 thanks in part to regulatory controls of CFCs and other
chemicals. Savage, whose biography calls him an "ardent
conservationist," seems unaware that ozone depletion and global
warming are in fact separate phenomena.

As part of an attack on the use of Ritalin by children, Savage quotes
then-first lady Hillary Clinton at a White House conference calling
the drug "a godsend for emotional and behavioral problems for both
children and their parents." He fails to mention, however, Clinton's
next comment: "We do have to ask some serious questions about the use
of prescription drugs in all children ... What about the effects on
our very youngest children who haven't been tested for these
prescription drugs and whose brains are in their most critical stages
of development?" Hardly the words of someone who, as Savage alleges,
is "calling Ritalin a miracle drug."

Just how does a book like this get published? The answer can be found
on a network of conservative Web sites. "The Savage Nation" is one of
the first books published by WND Books, a partnership between the
conservative site WorldNetDaily and Thomas Nelson, a publisher of
Christian books. All WND books are not only heavily publicized on
WorldNetDaily but also made available for sale there first, giving
direct access to a loyal audience most authors would kill for.

Much of Savage's content, meanwhile, can be traced directly to columns
he published on the conservative site NewsMax.com. The book itself is
divided into two- to four-page sections, many of which are near-exact
replicas of Savage's NewsMax columns with the same name. Most of the
content in the book, in fact, can be found in the columns archived on
this page. Of course, there's nothing wrong with collecting a series
of columns into a book. It's noteworthy, however, that Savage doesn't
tell his readers they're primarily reading recycled material, and it's
revealing that a book containing so many errors is primarily a
cut-and-paste job.

The easiest response to all of this, of course, is one that Savage
himself partially makes early in his book: "Comedy is what I sometimes
do." Does taking Michael Savage seriously play right into his hands?
It's certainly important to point out the hypocrisy of a bestselling
author who says of himself, "I want to elevate the dialogue, if I can,
to some level that's civil."

More fundamentally, in a world where people like Savage are rewarded
with their own shows on a major cable news channel, close scrutiny is
absolutely necessary. Either MSNBC executives have listened to
Savage's show and read his book and believe his brand of vitriol and
distortions make him, as Sorenson said, "brash, passionate and smart,"
or they don't care about anything other than his ratings and his book
sales. Either way, they have a lot to explain. Michael Savage may be
one small step up in the ratings for MSNBC, but he's one giant leap
down for our political discourse.

--Ben Fritz is the co-editor of Spinsanity, the nation's leading
watchdog of manipulative political rhetoric.

--
"You gotta feel bad for President Bush. He's really fed up with the
U.N.'s foot dragging. He's very frustrated because he wants to attack
Iraq and wipe them out before his one-term presidency is up."

--David Letterman

GoreWasRobbed

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Feb 22, 2003, 3:42:00 AM2/22/03
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Savage had his ass kicked BIG-TIME on tonight's NOW with Bill
Moyers.

nee...@syix.com

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Feb 22, 2003, 11:17:29 AM2/22/03
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On Sat, 22 Feb 2003 05:34:05 GMT, Bush Busta <Bush...@America.com>
wrote:

>On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 19:11:39 -0800, "nee...@syix.com"
><nee...@syix.com> wrote:
>
>>Thanks teapot for confirming that Maichael Savage has liberals
>>absolutely frighten out of their wits.
>>
>>For those who want to find out for THEMSLEVES what Michael is all
>>about instead of depending on the DNC spin version, go to his official
>>web site at:
>>
>>http://www.michaelsavage.com/
>
>Then read what this asshole REALLY stands for:
>
>Savage with the Truth..The man Who Makes Limbaugh Look Sane and
>Logical
>
>Ben Fritz, Salon, February 19, 2003
>
>http://www.salon.com/books/review/2003/02/19/savage/print.html
>


So you're putting your liberal stock into what a losing liberal rag
editorial thinks of him.

Are you so proof positive led by others because you fail to read and
think for yourself, or is it because you're unable to think?

LN

nee...@syix.com

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Feb 22, 2003, 11:18:12 AM2/22/03
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On Sat, 22 Feb 03 08:42:00 GMT, sh...@fauxprez.com (GoreWasRobbed)
wrote:

>Savage had his ass kicked BIG-TIME on tonight's NOW with Bill
>Moyers.


Now that would be a matter of perception wouldn't it?

LN

nee...@syix.com

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On Sat, 22 Feb 2003 09:02:29 GMT, Mark Cresky <hap...@opermail.com>
wrote:

>On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 19:11:39 -0800, "nee...@syix.com"
><nee...@syix.com> wrote:
>

>>Thanks teapot for confirming that Maichael Savage has liberals
>>absolutely frighten out of their wits.
>

>Disgusted beyond description, yes.

Once again marky chimes in projections he sees in his mirror....


>Frightened? Don't you wish, pussyboy.

marky's 3-call playbook never changes, lie, smear & whine...

LN

Bush Busta

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On Sat, 22 Feb 2003 09:02:29 GMT, Mark Cresky <hap...@opermail.com>
wrote:

>On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 19:11:39 -0800, "nee...@syix.com"
><nee...@syix.com> wrote:
>

>>Thanks teapot for confirming that Maichael Savage has liberals
>>absolutely frighten out of their wits.
>

>Disgusted beyond description, yes.


>
>Frightened? Don't you wish, pussyboy.

Savage with the Truth..The man Who Makes Limbaugh Look Sane and
Logical

Ben Fritz, Salon, February 19, 2003

http://www.salon.com/books/review/2003/02/19/savage/print.html

Conservative radio hosts have come to dominate the airwaves with


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"New rumors that Saddam Hussein is planning to flee to a castle in Libya with 10 billion dollars. Now
President Bush doesn't know whether to nuke him or give him a tax cut."
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On Sat, 22 Feb 03 08:42:00 GMT, sh...@fauxprez.com (GoreWasRobbed)
wrote:

>Savage had his ass kicked BIG-TIME on tonight's NOW with Bill
>Moyers.

Savage with the Truth..The man Who Makes Limbaugh Look Sane and

Bush Busta

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Feb 22, 2003, 2:37:03 PM2/22/03
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Savage with the Truth..The man Who Makes Limbaugh Look Sane and

Bush Busta

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Tempest

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GoreWasRobbed wrote:
>
> Savage had his ass kicked BIG-TIME on tonight's NOW with Bill
> Moyers.

Who wouldn't be able to kick Weiner's ass in a debate?

--
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and
causes me to tremble for the safety of my country; corporations have
been enthroned, an era of corruption in High Places will follow, and the
Money Power of the Country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working
upon the prejudices of the People, until the wealth is ggregated in a
few hands, and the Republic is destroyed."
- Abraham Lincoln

Tempest

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Mark Cresky wrote:
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> On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 19:11:39 -0800, "nee...@syix.com"
> <nee...@syix.com> wrote:
>

> >Thanks teapot for confirming that Maichael Savage has liberals
> >absolutely frighten out of their wits.
>

> Disgusted beyond description, yes.


>
> Frightened? Don't you wish, pussyboy.

Needleloon needs to believe that Liberals are afraid of Savage,
otherwise his entire fantasy world will collapse and he'll have to go
back to taking his meds.

nee...@syix.com

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Obviously this droid is a bot and cannot carry on a conversation
beyond its auto-repsonse progreamming. I guess the idiot who launched
it doesn;t have enough confidence/conviction in his ability to argue.

LN

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