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Pinto Moskowitz

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Jun 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/12/97
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Yes, I like my name. If i wasnt named Pinto, how would people know what
to call me? I have 17 uncles & relatives all names Pancho, so you can
imagine the confusing around Feliz Navidad time. I think you should
name baby pinto, despite boy or girl. Its original, and makes person
stick up...no... out in a crowded. Please excuse my spell, I am new to
proper grammy award.. no... grammer. thanks!

Chuck Lipsig

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bwoh...@nospam.crl.com wrote:

>As you may or may not know, Jen and I are expecting Baby #2 in July.
>There is an argument raging between us, family, and friends regarding the
>proposed name. We know it is a girl, as was #1 (Brenna), and the
>proposed name right now is Ailish. We want something Irish, as we both
>have mostly Irish blood, but not so Irish that everyone in the US
>mispronounces it (example: Siobhan).

>So, people are divided into two camps about the name Ailish. One side,
>mostly made up of people with common names (including Jen) thinks we need
>to give the baby a less common name, themselves having endured lives of
>turning around when someone is talking to a different Jennifer (or
>whatever). OTOH, those with uncommon names generally argue for a more
>common name, having endured lives of mispronounciation, misspellings, and
>mocking.

>Which fate is worse? We are down to two choices: Katherine or Ailish.
>Do we call her Kate (currently the most common girl's name, by a long
>shot) or Ailish? Will she hate us and call herself A. Kate Wohlenberg, or
>will she be happy she is the only Ailish around? What do you think of
>your own common/uncommon name?

My usual advice is to go for names that are neither common nor uncommon.
Hence, Patti and I naming our son Derek and having planned on Miranda if
the baby had been a girl. A friend of mine, based on the same logic, went
with Marshall and Adrian for her twins.

That said, there are a number of good female Irish names that are known
but not, IMO, overused. Brigit is almost stereotypically Irish but I
don't note it being used anymore. Moira is another nice name. I also
like Shannon, but that's because it's my daugher's name. And, BTW, I get
the impression that Siobhan is getting to just that point of commoness
that most people would pronounce it correctly. I could be wrong.

That said, Ailish is a lovely name. I hope that if you go with
Katherine, you at least keep Ailish as a middle name. That way, she could
always choose to go by K. Ailish Wohlenberg.

In the end, go with what feels right, and it will most likely be right.
Naming is not a terribly rational exercise.

Chuck Lipsig lip...@atlantic.net Gainesville, FL
Too cynical to believe my own paranoia.


Katrin

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On 12 Jun 1997 07:51:31 GMT, bwoh...@nospam.crl.com wrote:

>Which fate is worse? We are down to two choices: Katherine or Ailish.
>Do we call her Kate (currently the most common girl's name, by a long
>shot) or Ailish? Will she hate us and call herself A. Kate Wohlenberg, or
>will she be happy she is the only Ailish around? What do you think of
>your own common/uncommon name?

Go for the less-common name. No contest.

On the whole, I appreciate my name, but here's a list of things I
dislike about it (which you might want to consider):

1. My parents gave me a cool name, but also stuck me with a dorky
nickname which I always hated and which took many, many years to get
rid of. Don't even ask what it was; I don't tell anyone. Give your
child an original name, and then *use* it. Make her feel proud of who
she is, instead of giving the impression you'd rather pretend she's
someone else.

2. Most people assume that my real name is something more ordinary,
and that I changed the spelling and pronunciation to be "unique". This
is not true. My real given name is Katrin.

3. I always have to spell my first name and my last name (now *both*
last names) over the phone. And *no one* ever gets the spelling of my
first name right the first time, no matter how clearly I spell it,
either on the phone or in person Usually it takes more than two
repeats, if they ever get it right at all. I have learned how to punch
my own name into UPS's little electronic notepad, just so I don't have
to waste my time trying to explain to the delivery person. I wish
Airborne Express had something similar.

4. Several people I know have changed their names (or nicknames) to
something similar to mine (in order to be "unique" -- see #2). Some of
these sound-alikes are people I don't like and don't want to be
associated with. I have often been mistaken for one or another of
them.

5. Maybe because my name is unusual (or maybe I just don't know why),
I've never gotten used to hearing the sound of it. Every time I hear
someone say it, I feel a little startled and defensive, as if I've
been "caught" doing something I shouldn't.

Even if she resents her name early on, don't worry; she'll probably
grow into it and thank you later. My family has Katrin, Gretchen and
Ingrid; the family across the street when we were kids had Susie,
Debbie and Kathy. I envied them back then, but now I wouldn't trade
places for anything.

TMByrd

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In article <19970613034...@ladder02.news.aol.com>, tmb...@aol.com
(TMByrd) writes:

>mostly because people can't seem to
>pronounce it wrong, even when I correct them. P

aack!!!

meant to say... "people can't seem to pronouce it right"

:-)

tmb

Sara Hively

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Katrin (kat...@dimensional.com) wrote:
: On 12 Jun 1997 16:07:59 GMT, shi...@newstand.syr.edu (Sara Hively)
: wrote:

: >I've got a plain first name and an odd middle name (easily pronounced once
: >you know how)

: I never considered that it wouldn't be easy to pronounce. I always
: assumed the accent is on the second syllable -- right?

Actually it's supposed to be evenly distributed between both syllables.
The usual mistake is to mispronounce the 'i's ("ee" is correct for both) -
I've had a few people on the phone attempt to pronounce it 'Phyllis'.

Sara

Chris Moorehead

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fra...@wocket.primenet.com (david s. broudy) wrote:

>In article <5no9q3$rvk$1...@nnrp1.crl.com>, bwoh...@nospam.crl.com wrote:
>
>- As you may or may not know, Jen and I are expecting Baby #2 in July.
>- There is an argument raging between us, family, and friends regarding the
>- proposed name. We know it is a girl, as was #1 (Brenna), and the
>- proposed name right now is Ailish. We want something Irish, as we both
>- have mostly Irish blood, but not so Irish that everyone in the US
>- mispronounces it (example: Siobhan).
>
>How the hell *do* you pronounce "Siobhan" ? if it's anything like some
>other gaelic words, it's probably pronounced "moe" :)

In Irish Gaelic, I believe that an 's' followed by a vowel is
pronounced 'sh'. Hence Sean ('shawn'), Seamus ('shay-mus'), Sinead
('shi-nayd'), etc. Siobhan ends up sounding something like
'shi-vawn'. I thought there were some linguists on this ng - give us
some help!

Such names are mostly borne by those of Irish Catholic background.
Irish Protestants ususally stick with English names: William rather
than Liam, etc. The only archetypal Irish name that appears to be
common to both Catholics & Protestants is Patrick (or Padraig, if you
prefer the Gaelic).

My grandfather was a stubborn old Orangeman who refused to call me by
my given name because, in his words, 'Christopher's a dogan
[Protestant Irish ethnic slur] name'. It wasn't until after he died
that I discovered that Christopher is in fact Greek in origin.

>I have one of the most common male names around and it's only bothered me
>when there's more than 1-2 Davids around. Mayhem ensues. I have a terribly
>unusual and annoying middle name which when discovered in grade school
>caused no end of torment.

It couldn't be worse than 'Warren Gamaliel Harding', could it?

At high school, we had a principal who went by the name 'L. Douglas
Swanson'. For most of our senior year, we had a contest to determine
what the 'L' stood for. We finally decided on 'Lanthazar'...

>Everyone, please refrain from giving your children idiotic middle names.
>
>My first impression of an unusual kid's name is that of the parents trying
>to be trendy or trying to affect some sort of Brahmin-esque pose, viz:
>Brittany Rodriguez (my friend's sister's kid), or Jewish girls named
>Kaitlin, or my stupid nephew and his immense wife who invented a name
>("Timmery" *blorf*) for their first-born daughter and chose stupid trendoid
>names (Briana, Brittany) for the other two. It seems little girls bear the
>brunt of Stupid Naming Affectation Syndrome more than boys do.

I'd rather name my child 'Blorf' than 'Timmery'...

>If I ever do end up with a kid or two, I plan to choose traditional,
>non-ethnic names for them (not saying that *you* are being trendy,
>affected, etc; that's just me). Any relevant ethnic names would be like
>Olga or Igor (and I remember the brief WASP fascination for the name
>"Natasha", har har) and I just couldn't do that to a little kid.

My wife is Ukrainian, & they tend to give their male children names
such as Taras, Yuri, Orest, Ivan, & Ihor (Ukrainian pronunciation of
'Igor'), & their female children names like Olha (Olga), Luba, Zirka,
& Natalka. Some of these names have English equivalents (Yuri -
George, Ivan - John, Natalka - Natalie), but try to translate Orest
(Orestes?). Worse, the very normal Ukrainian girl's name 'Zirka'
translates as 'Star', which would lead non-Ukrainian folks to assume
that the bearer's parents were hippies.

But the strangest Ukrainian name of all is that of my father-in-law:
Swiatoslaw (pronounced 'Svyato-slau'). It's the name of a 10th
century Ukrainian warrior prince (we have a huge painting of the guy
on our dining room wall - the prince, not my father-in-law!) that was
one of the unifiers of Ukraine - sort of their Charlemagne.

My wonderful in-laws blessed my wife with the name Zoya (after an
artist friend of theirs); a name considered unusual even by other
Ukrainians (I believe its English translation is 'Zoe'). She really
hated it when she was a child & teenager, but rather likes it now - or
at least she did until Danielle Steele wrote a 'novel' with 'Zoya' as
the title. She still occasionally has airheads ask her if she was
named 'after the Danielle Steele book'. Right...that work of literary
splendour was released around 1986, & my wife was born in 1963.

All in all, it's probably better for us to stick with more
'conventional' names that have Ukrainian equivalents (Mark, Paul,
Katherine, etc), or sufficiently quirky historical names, rather than
the trendy 'name of the moment' that Boomer parents inflict on their
offspring. Hopefully one day these parents will get their comeuppance
(shades of 'A Boy Named Sue' here).

chris
maybe I'll just give my children numbers instead

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from work, stopped at the liquor store,
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drank 'em in the car on his way
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parked across the street, laughing,
watching it burn, all Halloween
orange and chimney red then
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got on the Hollywood Freeway
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Michelle Darrah

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In article <5npaut$uk$1...@news1.atlantic.net>, lip...@atlantic.net (Chuck
Lipsig) wrote:

bwoh...@nospam.crl.com wrote:

>As you may or may not know, Jen and I are expecting Baby #2 in July.

>There is an argument raging between us, family, and friends regarding the

>proposed name. We know it is a girl, as was #1 (Brenna), and the

>proposed name right now is Ailish. We want something Irish, as we both

>have mostly Irish blood, but not so Irish that everyone in the US

>mispronounces it (example: Siobhan).

>So, people are divided into two camps about the name Ailish. One side,
>mostly made up of people with common names (including Jen) thinks we need
>to give the baby a less common name, themselves having endured lives of
>turning around when someone is talking to a different Jennifer (or
>whatever). OTOH, those with uncommon names generally argue for a more
>common name, having endured lives of mispronounciation, misspellings, and
>mocking.

>Which fate is worse? We are down to two choices: Katherine or Ailish.

>Do we call her Kate (currently the most common girl's name, by a long
>shot) or Ailish? Will she hate us and call herself A. Kate Wohlenberg, or
>will she be happy she is the only Ailish around? What do you think of
>your own common/uncommon name?
>

> That said, there are a number of good female Irish names that are known
> but not, IMO, overused. Brigit is almost stereotypically Irish but I
> don't note it being used anymore. Moira is another nice name. I also
> like Shannon, but that's because it's my daugher's name. And, BTW, I get
> the impression that Siobhan is getting to just that point of commoness
> that most people would pronounce it correctly. I could be wrong.

My 1-year-old daughter's name is Brigid. We chose it for our Irish
heritage. We love it, I have no regrets for using it, but we get so many
variations on the spelling I no longer bother to correct people. If we
ever have another daughter, we like Shannon, Kerry, Siobhan, Sinead, or
Rhiannon. I do agree that Siobhan is getting much more popular, but still
feel that the child would run into mispronunciations often enough for it
to be quite annoying.

FWIW, I like Ailish quite a bit, but then again I don't go in for trendy
names (being one in a sea of Michelles born in the late 60s-early 70s). I
say go for it.

Michelle, mom to Brigid Erin, back to lurking and minding my own business

Sue Irvin

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In article <frantic-ya0240800...@news.primenet.com>,

fra...@wocket.primenet.com (david s. broudy) wrote:

> Now, my last name, well, that's another story. I hate it. Everyone fucks it
> up, can't spell it, can't pronounce it, and I'd just as soon ditch it for
> something simple, but I don't dislike it enough to go through all the
> hassle of having it changed, and I have no idea what I would pick instead,
> so there it sits.

Hmph. Having a simple name isn't going to stop people from screwing it
up. My last name is frequently listed as being Irwin or Irving.

I went through a period in my teens when I hated my first name and wanted
it changed to Samantha. Don't know why I picked that name, but I think
I was prompted by the fact that far too many people were still calling
me Susie.

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Confusion Incarnate

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bwoh...@nospam.crl.com wrote:
> As you may or may not know, Jen and I are expecting Baby #2 in July.
> There is an argument raging between us, family, and friends regarding the
> proposed name. We know it is a girl, as was #1 (Brenna), and the
> proposed name right now is Ailish. We want something Irish, as we both
> have mostly Irish blood, but not so Irish that everyone in the US
> mispronounces it (example: Siobhan).

Eireann. Just like Erin, but more blatantly Irish.

--
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James

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Well, I really don't like my name much. I go by James now, but for most
of my life it was Jim. Can't get much more boring than that. I tend to
like 'old' names - for instance Samuel is a nice name. Also a good idea
is using the mother's surname as the middle name (if she chooses to change
her name at marriage.) My mother did that for one of my brothers and I
always thought it was really special. People really like my last name,
Laforest, but I have often thought of changing that too, to take my
mother's maiden name - Kaplan - which is in itself pretty common, moreso
than Laforest (although not in Michigan - many Laforests in MI).
It costs about $70 in michigan to change your name, and you have to
announce it in the newspaper in the section where things like foreclosures
and estate liquidations are announced. Weird things, names.

If I had kids.... for girls - Olive or Shoshana, for boys - hmmmm....

Rob Myers

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On 12 Jun 1997 bwoh...@nospam.crl.com wrote:

> Which fate is worse? We are down to two choices: Katherine or Ailish.
> Do we call her Kate (currently the most common girl's name, by a long
> shot) or Ailish? Will she hate us and call herself A. Kate Wohlenberg, or
> will she be happy she is the only Ailish around? What do you think of
> your own common/uncommon name?

I can hear the "hey, eye lash!" jokes now.

I'm a Rob, one of millions. My best male friend is named Rob. The Robs of
asgx have their own cabal, and we even have shirts.

I think that some kids are predisposed to hate their names at a certain
stage. For a while I wanted to change my last name to Reid, my mother's
maiden name, for convoluted reasons. But mostly it just "sounded cooler."

I've also got Irish blood, and think there are plenty of good Irish names
out there without getting super-gaelic about it. If you want something
that sounds Irish to an American ear, I don't know if Ailish is the way to
go. If you've got any relatives over there, why not call or write and ask
for their input?

--
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Tim Irvin

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In article <clio*-13069706...@nntp.netgate.net>, clio*@*netgate.net

(Sue Irvin) wrote:
> Hmph. Having a simple name isn't going to stop people from screwing it
> up. My last name is frequently listed as being Irwin or Irving.
>
> I went through a period in my teens when I hated my first name and wanted
> it changed to Samantha. Don't know why I picked that name, but I think
> I was prompted by the fact that far too many people were still calling
> me Susie.

Well, dear, I didn't *force* you to give up your maiden name. I suppose
than in the heart of PA Dutch country, not many people screwed up
"Moyer"; I wonder how many would out here.

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steven r kleinedler

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Does Ailish have a recognizable equivalent? I ask, because
although my name is Steven, my mother always called me
by the Czech equivalent -- Stepan (with a hook over the
S and the e) (shtjepan) or just Step for short.

Had she named me Stepan, I wouldn't have minded, in fact I would
have gloried in the diacritical marks, but it would have
been a nightmare for getting across how to pronounce it and
stuff.

Personally, I'd rather go with the name as you want it, but
this is an option.
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bwoh...@nospam.crl.com

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Rob Myers <ro...@detnews.com> wrote:
: I can hear the "hey, eye lash!" jokes now.

I thought of this, and am expecting kids to call her Alien, too.

: I've also got Irish blood, and think there are plenty of good Irish names


: out there without getting super-gaelic about it. If you want something
: that sounds Irish to an American ear, I don't know if Ailish is the way to
: go. If you've got any relatives over there, why not call or write and ask
: for their input?

No relatives that anyone is in contact with, but Jen had an Irish
co-worker, Alan, at her job (before she quit, that is). Alan has only
been in the US for a couple of years, and his sister's name is Siobhan,
BTW. Jen asked him what he thought about Ailish or Aidan (before we knew
it was a girl), and he said, "Sweet divine Jesus, what ever happened to
Mary or Patrick!?"

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L. Shelton Bumgarner

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bwoh...@nospam.crl.com wrote:


>Which fate is worse? We are down to two choices: Katherine or Ailish.
>Do we call her Kate (currently the most common girl's name, by a long
>shot) or Ailish? Will she hate us and call herself A. Kate Wohlenberg, or
>will she be happy she is the only Ailish around? What do you think of
>your own common/uncommon name?

From a parental standpoint, I would rather a kid have an interesting
name than a dull name. But I could see from a kid standpoint it's much
better to have a dull name than a more interesting one -- in fact,
I've heard of studies that prove a little kid is less likely to make
friends if their name is strange. ( I donno what happened to me -- I
guess "Bumgarner" was to different for all those assholes in high
school.)

If and when I ever help create a child, I'm going to push for a weird
middle name if nothing else. Then if the kid doesn't like there dull
first name they can use their middle one.

lee
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L. Shelton Bumgarner

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shi...@newstand.syr.edu (Sara Hively) wrote:

>Uncommon names that are spellable and pronounceable aren't that hard to
>find if you look back a generation or two.

I see that problem TODAY! I work for a small community newspaper and
damn if thar ain't some weird named people out there.

> My husband ditched his first name for his
>middle name - partly because he shared the first name with his dad and his
>family always called him by his middle name.

I'm afraid that my first name, Lee, will eventually only be a woman's
name, (but then, I'm afraid that by the time I'm 70 everyone will be 8
feet tall, making me look like Robert Reich in comparison.)

>I've got a plain first name and an odd middle name (easily pronounced once

>you know how) - I like the first name because it's unteasable and
>unnicknameable (except for Sally, as I just recently found out)

No name is unteasable. (little kids are mean and vicious!) Reminds me
of Nickolas "Asswhipe" Cage on SNL.

Katrin

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On 13 Jun 1997 19:07:01 -0700, fra...@wocket.primenet.com (david s.
broudy) wrote:

>In article <33a1e4b3...@news.dimensional.com>, kat...@dimensional.com
>(Katrin) wrote:
>- the baby turned out to be a boy named Levi (yes, the parents were
>- fundamentalist Christians).

>That's about as jarring as Liam Goldblatt or Moishe Wallingford III.

Actually, the only other "Levi" I have known personally is also the
young child of fundamentalist Christian parents.

(It's not just a name, it's a FASHION STATEMENT!)

Katrin

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On Fri, 13 Jun 1997 14:06:23 GMT, moor...@interlog.com (Chris
Moorehead) wrote:

>fra...@wocket.primenet.com (david s. broudy) wrote:
>

>>...or my stupid nephew and his immense wife who invented a name


>>("Timmery" *blorf*) for their first-born daughter and chose stupid trendoid
>>names (Briana, Brittany) for the other two. It seems little girls bear the
>>brunt of Stupid Naming Affectation Syndrome more than boys do.

>I'd rather name my child 'Blorf' than 'Timmery'...

I once knew a couple named Terry and Sharon who named their daughter
Taron.

And then there was the co-worker who *seriously* considered naming her
child "Gorry" if it was a girl. The rest of us wondered what the hell
she was thinking, and hoped we could talk her out of it. Fortunately,


the baby turned out to be a boy named Levi (yes, the parents were

fundamentalist Christians).

Darla

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> bwoh...@nospam.crl.com wrote:
>
> >Which fate is worse? We are down to two choices: Katherine or Ailish.
> >Do we call her Kate (currently the most common girl's name, by a long
> >shot) or Ailish? Will she hate us and call herself A. Kate Wohlenberg, or
> >will she be happy she is the only Ailish around? What do you think of
> >your own common/uncommon name?


The first time I heard the name "Eilish" (I saw it written with an "E" and
that's how I have thought of it ever since!) the story was of an exquisite
little Irish baby girl. I have had nothing but good associations with the
name ever since--- and so much of one's feeling about a name has to do with
association. If your daughter is a beautiful little sprite--- happy and
graceful, thoughtful of and good to those around her--- her name will become
synonymous with who she is and people will love both!

*My* name is quite dull and common-- it was one of the three most popular
girls' names of 1949 (the other two were Barbara and Nancy), and when I found
that out, I felt instantly average--- let down, plain, boring. Small wonder
that I spent my youth making up names for myself---nicknames and noms des
plumes and aliases galore!

I was the despair of my father, who couldn't understand it. When he got the
mail in the morning, he was reduced to showing me envelopes addressed to
various names and asking "Are any of these *you* this week?"

I would spend some time thinking about a name that reminds or means or
embodies something for you--- some cherished person, some desired quality---
that you can explain to your wonderful daughter. She will be so
appreciative, and it will mean so much to her! And that is, I assume, the
point!

Congratulations and best wishes for a wonderful life together---

Darla (not her real name! Ssshhhhhh!)

--- Who once received a postcard from her crush, Paul Anka, addressed to
"Veronica 'Ronnie' Prentice" and thought she was in heaven--- until she
realized she couldn't show it off to any of her chums. *sigh*

Anne-Marie

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david s. broudy wrote:

>
> How the hell *do* you pronounce "Siobhan" ?


Chev- on


> I have one of the most common male names around and it's only bothered me
> when there's more than 1-2 Davids around. Mayhem ensues.

You may find this hard to believe, but Anne-Marie was pretty common when I
was in elementary school and in high school (French-Canadians, you know). I
wanted something less ordinary myself.

As a grown-up with the MacDonald added on, I am forever being mistaken for
that now best-selling Canadian novelist. And the endless "are you her?"
from parents at school just boggles the mind.


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Ed and Phantom MacLennan

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L. Shelton Bumgarner wrote:
>
> shi...@newstand.syr.edu (Sara Hively) wrote:
>
> >Uncommon names that are spellable and pronounceable aren't that hard to
> >find if you look back a generation or two.
>
> I see that problem TODAY! I work for a small community newspaper and
> damn if thar ain't some weird named people out there.
>
>

I guess I qualify. In my family, we have all three extremes. My given
name is Phantom. Yes really. Okay, you can stop laughing now. My
sisters are Jennifer and Cristyna. Of the three, I'll take mine,
thankyouverymuch. Jenn was always one of 8 or 10 Jennifers in every
grade of school (she is 25 now). and Cristyna is just plain a goofy
spelling--she says it's far worse than having an odd, but spellable
name. There's a fine line between uncommon and just plain weird. My
son's name (Keith) fits the uncommon category. There aren't too many of
them out there under the age of 25. Our daughter (God rest her soul) is
named Aria--again, not too common, but not too awful. Mine, on the
other hand, falls into the category of Just Plain Weird.
Phan

Lane Browning

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Ed and Phantom MacLennan wrote:
>
>>
> >>
> I guess I qualify. In my family, we have all three extremes. My given
> name is Phantom. Yes really. Okay, you can stop laughing now.

I didn't laugh, I LOVE IT. I'd rather be named "involuntary bowel
movement" than be named Jennifer--sorry, all you Jennifers out there! I
tihnk Phantom is terrific. And thank god they didn't do it Fpantumm. I
can't believe the liberties some parents take with spellings. Teyler or
Teighlir instead of Taylor; Shiyanne instead of Cheyanne or
Cheyenne...don't get me started. There must be 18 spellings for
McKenzie/McKinsee/MacKenzee/Mickinzie.

Jenn was always one of 8 or 10 Jennifers in every

> son's name (Keith) fits the uncommon category.

Actually it's fairly common, but not SUPER common, definitely not with
Mike/Dave/Steve/Bob/Nicholas/Matt. I've always liked Keith--practical,
efficient, solid, easy to spell (unless you go for Keath, or K'eeth).

There aren't too many of
> them out there under the age of 25. Our daughter (God rest her soul) is
> named Aria--again, not too common, but not too awful.

I've seen some Arias, and some Divas. Also some Arials/Ariels. I make
a habit of watching names for some reason. Why did you write "God rest
her soul" about your daughter?

Mine, on the
> other hand, falls into the category of Just Plain Weird.
> Phan

But unforgettable, and for me that's the ticket.

Spiros Triantafyllopoulos

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Ed and Phantom MacLennan <the8...@vabch.com> wrote:
: I guess I qualify. In my family, we have all three extremes. My given
: name is Phantom. Yes really. Okay, you can stop laughing now. My

Your dad was an F-4 pilot most likely :-) :-)...

Today I saw two kids, one named "Echo" (shoot me, please) and another
named "Avery". Why anyone would name their kid after a software package
(ok, the package is spelled Ecco ;-)) or a stationery supply company
escapes me...

On the other hand, I have found that the probability of someone
making a stupid remark about MY last name is inversely proportional
to their income... Wal-mart cashiers seem to have the best hit rate,
while more income-oriented people like MD's tend to not worry too
much about it...

Spiros
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James Walker

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On 13 Jun 1997, Katina Choovanski wrote:

> My favorite Gaelic name that's pronounced nothing like it's spelled:
> Niamh. Pronounced Neev.

If you know the Gaelic writing system, it's pronounced *exactly* like it's
spelled ;-)

James

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Daniel R. Reitman

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On Sat, 14 Jun 1997 00:31:06 GMT, kat...@dimensional.com (Katrin)
wrote:

>I once knew a couple named Terry and Sharon who named their daughter
>Taron.

>. . . .

A friend in college was named Tarl. After a character in the Gor
novels. :-(

I'm still surprised he didn't use his middle name.

Dan, ad nauseam

Douglas Lathrop

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Daniel R. Reitman <drei...@teleport.com> wrote:
: On Sat, 14 Jun 1997 00:31:06 GMT, kat...@dimensional.com (Katrin)

: wrote:
: >I once knew a couple named Terry and Sharon who named their daughter
: >Taron.

: >. . . .

: A friend in college was named Tarl. After a character in the Gor
: novels. :-(

Eep. His middle or last name wasn't Cabot, was it? If so, there's a
certain episode of MST3K he should absolutely never watch.

Tom Salyers will now explain why.


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In article <5o14lk$v...@nntp02.primenet.com>, lat...@primenet.com (Douglas
Lathrop) says...

> Eep. His middle or last name wasn't Cabot, was it? If so, there's a
> certain episode of MST3K he should absolutely never watch.
>
> Tom Salyers will now explain why.

Thanks, Doug. All righty--one episode of MST3K is "Outlaw", and the
movie is a really cheesy adaptation of one of the Gor novels (which, BTW,
has Jack Palance in it as some sort of high priest).
Anyway, the main character is one Tarl Cabot, who usually rooms on Earth
and works as a college professor. He has a woodchuck-looking companion
who is thoroughly loathsome--at least when he's trying to pick up women
in the bar scene that opens the film.
When both are transported to the world of Gor (in the cheapest special
effects sequence known to man), young Tarl takes off for the nearest
city, while all the while Sticky Boy trots along behind him yelling
"Cabot! Hey, Cabot! Cabot!" at approximately three-millisecond intervals.
He does this for serious...there's no attempt at an Abbot and Costello
riff. Deep hurting indeed.

And now, back to Doug for the weather.....

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mara lee

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TMByrd wrote:
>

> Tara. I hated it until I was about 14 or so... partially because I didn't
> know anyone else with my name; mostly because people can't seem to
> pronounce it wrong, even when I correct them. Properly pronouced, it
> rhymes with "Laura." It is not pronounced "Terra."

mine's Mara, pronounced to rhyme with Sarah... I have the same problem
in the opposite direction. I've known several Mara's pronounced to
rhyme with Laura, and they always had the same problem too. Murphy's
law, I guess.

I also have the problem that people think my name is Marilee, and even
when I preempt message takers: 'Mara is my first name, M-a-r-a, Lee is
my last name' i get, 'how is that spelled?'

it could be worse, of course. my youngest half sister is named Sara
Lee. cruel and unusual punishment, imho.

mara

Paul Schwartz

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Naming children is a very personal thing. When my husband and I were
taking prenatal classes, we started a discussion about what names we
liked. My husband pointed out that he hated biblical names and another
couple responded that they loved biblical names and all the names they
were considering were biblical. Then, another couple went on and on about
how they loved one name (I don't remember what it was) and as they
finished a fourth couple joined the conversation and went on and on about
how they hated that very same name. Basically, we all managed to insult
each others taste. I figure we all have our reasons for choosing the names
we do and hopefully our children won't hate us for them!
Cornelia (mom to Charlotte)

Brandi Weed

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I don't really mind my name, though I'm bemused by some of the
creative misinterpretations when people try to make it into a name
they think is more "normal" (Francis? Bambi?).

The bimbo connotation, at least wRT Usenet and the Web, is much more
annoying, but a couple of actual pictures of myself seems to have
winnowed out the idiots.

--
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http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/~brandi/

Dean H. Saxe

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In article <5o1q0l$3...@huitzilo.tezcat.com>, wedn...@huitzilo.tezcat.com
(Beverley R. White) wrote:
> I can deal with Bev. I don't like the R. at all, and I'd like to exchange
> it for something else -- maybe Relkie, my old ASAR pseudonym, just to keep
> the sound of the initial.

I hat emy middle name, Howard. However, I *really* like the way my name
sounds with the middle initial "Dean H. Saxe," therefore I always write my
name out with the middle initial. Lately I have found myself speaking the
R. when talking to credit card companies, banks, etc. *shrugs* Dunno why,
I just do.

-Dean

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Lane Browning

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Spiros Triantafyllopoulos wrote:
>
>
> Today I saw two kids, one named "Echo" (shoot me, please) and another
> named "Avery". Why anyone would name their kid after a software package

No, after a pleasant repetition!

> (ok, the package is spelled Ecco ;-)) or a stationery supply company
> escapes me...

No, after a character in an Alice Walker novel!

Yet it's OK with most people to name a daughter after a female donkey
(jenny) or a boy after a slang word for toilet (john) or an indelicate
name for the male sexual organ ... came across a boy named Talon the
other day...and of course Jack is something you use to hold your car up
while you're changing the tire..and bob is what you do when you're
trying to avoid getting punched...and a Tyler is someone who lays
tile...and Sue is what you do when only legal recourse will suffice...
(guess).

I just want to be known as a narrow alley, myself. :-)

-Lane


> > Spiros

Does anyone pronounce it right, or does the first syllable come out
rhyming with "Fire?"

What will you name that second kid? Not "Trauma," I guess. :-)

> --Lane

Lane Browning

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I love the name Charlotte (so does Sigourney Weaver, whose daughter has
it). My brother asked for suggestions for his daughter's name, and I
nominated Charlotte; but they went for Reta. Oh well. I hate it; they
love it. You're right, there are no universals. It's like taste in
music, art, humor, food...

Andrew Ross

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I'm well satisfied with my name: Andrew Ross. Not too common; not weird.
The elementary school bullies could think of nothing more insulting than
references to RossApollo bicycles. The etymology of "Andrew" connotes
strength, bravery, and other handsomely masculine qualities. I get to be
Celtic at a time when Celtic is cool. I can interact with judges, or with
in-your-face punk protestors, or with any other subculture that's caught
my attention so far, without anyone looking askance at me because of my
name. My name runs nicely off the tongue. Only utter morons have trouble
spelling or pronouncing it.

Yep, Andrew Ross is a good thing to be named. The only negative aspect is
that there are some people, mostly "friendly" salespeople, who want to
call me Andy or Drew. This is not a capital offense. The first time.

Fun fact #1: My father wanted to name me "Albert," so that my name would
sound like "Albatross." My mother wouldn't let him. Whenever I'm feeling
mad at my mother, I try to remember that I owe her big time for that.

Fun fact #2: Both parents agree that, had I been a girl, I would have
been named "Samantha." I think I would have made an excellent Samantha.
I have just the sort of smile you would expect a Samantha to have!

I like names. :)


Says Andrew!
"I'm sure you will be either one of the greatest statesmen of the 21st
Century or institutionalized for life. Best of luck with whichever path
you choose." --inscription in Andrew's yearbook

Mike Branom

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Mike is just way too common for my taste. When I attended University of
Arizona (1988-91), it was a running joke among all the Mikes that there
were so many of us. Serious! I'd be introduced to someone, we'd find out we
were both named Mike and sort of shudder. Kinda creepy.
Other than that, Mike is OK.
I once "changed" my name to Michael for about four years. I met another
Michael and we discussed our names. He crystallized my thoughts entirely
when he saidI don't mind people calling me Mike, but they have to ask
first. If you introduce yourself as Michael and they call you Mike next
time, they've blown it.

t. & p. & t.

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Missed the original post on this...but while we're on
the subject..if you must name your child after some
relative or another, please think carefully about how
that relative lived her/his life and how stories about
that life might affect the child's perception of his/her
name...case in point, my husband's first/middle name
is the first/last name of one of his grandfathers, whom
he remembers non-fondly as a certain small town's
"town drunk" and nothing more (this grandfather was
dead before his namesake was even born).

And having said all that...I recall that the aunt of mine
after whom we would have named our child if HE had
been a SHE...was an alcoholic/pill addict who died of
an overdose, though I remember her fondly as an
eccentric amateur astrologer...sigh...Our son's name, btw,
came from a book. Period. No famous people have it,
the translation is relatively benign, hopefully won't cause
him any trouble. The hyphenated last name, however... :)

t.r.

James Walker

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On Fri, 13 Jun 1997, Chris Moorehead wrote:

> fra...@wocket.primenet.com (david s. broudy) wrote:
>
> >How the hell *do* you pronounce "Siobhan" ? if it's anything like some
> >other gaelic words, it's probably pronounced "moe" :)
>
> In Irish Gaelic, I believe that an 's' followed by a vowel is
> pronounced 'sh'. Hence Sean ('shawn'), Seamus ('shay-mus'), Sinead
> ('shi-nayd'), etc. Siobhan ends up sounding something like
> 'shi-vawn'. I thought there were some linguists on this ng - give us
> some help!

Nobody asked! ;-) 's' is only pronounced 'sh' when followed (or
preceded) by a front vowel ('i' or 'e', as in all your examples).

And 'sh' is pronounced 'h', so the vocative case of Seumas is Sheumais,
which is pronounced 'Hamish' (noticed how the final 's', preceded by a
front vowel, becomes 'sh').

> maybe I'll just give my children numbers instead

"Third of Five"

Seumas

Daniel R. Reitman

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On Sun, 15 Jun 1997 11:29:15 -0600,
tsal...@dimen.spambots-die.sional.com (Tom Salyers) wrote:

>In article <5o14lk$v...@nntp02.primenet.com>, lat...@primenet.com (Douglas
>Lathrop) says...
>> Eep. His middle or last name wasn't Cabot, was it? If so, there's a
>> certain episode of MST3K he should absolutely never watch.

>> Tom Salyers will now explain why.

> Thanks, Doug. . . .


> When both are transported to the world of Gor (in the cheapest special
>effects sequence known to man), young Tarl takes off for the nearest
>city, while all the while Sticky Boy trots along behind him yelling
>"Cabot! Hey, Cabot! Cabot!" at approximately three-millisecond intervals.
>He does this for serious...there's no attempt at an Abbot and Costello
>riff. Deep hurting indeed.

>. . . .

Fortunately, his last name is not Cabot.

OTOH, I recall seeing an episode of the Monkees once which had them
perform at the Henry Cabot Lodge.

Dan, ad nauseam

B. Chas Parisher

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le Fantome de l'Opera <fan...@netdepot.com> wrote:
>wedn...@huitzilo.tezcat.com (Beverley R. White) wrote:
>>I can deal with Bev. I don't like the R. at all, and I'd like to exchange
>>it for something else -- maybe Relkie, my old ASAR pseudonym, just to keep
>>the sound of the initial. I know I'm almost certainly going to end up
>>taking the last name of my spouse if I should ever marry; anything's got to
>>have more audio impact than "White."
>Why not go the way that Ulysses S Grant did and make it:
>
>Beverley R White ?

She R NOT!!!

Ok, maybe she is.

Personally, I hate my first name. I've all but given up on it. It's just
the way "B. Chas Parisher" sounds that makes it dignified. Definately much
better than B(mumble) Parisher. It makes me sound like a fukkin Frat guy.

--B. Chas "You'll just have to trust me on this..." Parisher

BErinCole

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B. Chas Parisher wrote:

>Personally, I hate my first name. I've all but given up on it. It's
just
>the way "B. Chas Parisher" sounds that makes it dignified. Definately
much
>better than B(mumble) Parisher. It makes me sound like a fukkin Frat
guy.

Change the middle and last names, and the "frat guy" part, and you've got
my answer to this question...

B. Erin Cole
http://www.mscd.edu/~colebr/
(no one serves coffee. no one wakes up.)

Mike Branom

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I would've been Jody Lynn.
Dumb. I'm glad I was born a guy.
The name would've been mine and mine alone, though. I think in my entore
life, I've met ONE Jody and no Jody Lynns.

Hal Phillips

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Mike Branom wrote:
>
> I would've been Jody Lynn.
> Dumb. I'm glad I was born a guy.
> The name would've been mine and mine alone, though. I think in my
> entore
> life, I've met ONE Jody and no Jody Lynns.

Actually, I think I DO know a Jody Lynn...

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Claire Petersky

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: Naming children is a very personal thing.

Ain't that the truth? I personally would never name my kid:

An ambisexual name (Jordan for a girl)
A last name used for a first name (McKenzie, Parker)
A place name (Dakota, India, Sierra)
A really popular name (Kaitlin)
A name of something associated with things that are expensive (Bentley,
Tiffany)

...and yet there are plenty of people I know and respect who have named
their kids this way. And some of them think the old-fashioned names I used
for my girls are crazy -- they think of fat old ladies in big flowered
dresses when they hear them.

No accounting for tastes, eh?

--
Claire Petersky (pete...@halcyon.com)
Mother to Rose (9/92) and Emma (11/94)

Lane Browning

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Claire Petersky wrote:
>
> : Naming children is a very personal thing.
>
> Ain't that the truth? I personally would never name my kid:
>
> An ambisexual name (Jordan for a girl)

Hold it, hold it! Thare are more female Jordans than there are males!
Yes, really! Jordan is a river and a country.

> A last name used for a first name (McKenzie, Parker)

Wait, the names Cooper and Tyler are not surnames, they are vocational
terms (barrel maker, tile layer). Just because they have been used as
surnames does not mean that putting them first is reversing the order;
it's like naming someone Duke or Prince or Bailey (attorney in the U.K.,
I believe). The history of names is a very complex one, and recent
trends are not representative of the total picture.

> A place name (Dakota, India, Sierra)

But almost ANY name is a place name! Check an atlas; there are cities
named James, Bob (yes), Karen, William...and (see below) Rose...

> A really popular name (Kaitlin)How do you define "really popular?" Depends on the region you live in.
I have a list citing Emma as very popular.

> A name of something associated with things that are expensive (Bentley,
> Tiffany)

Gotta say, I'm with you on this one. Rolex doesn't do a thing for me.
> The "old-fashioned" names you used are actually extremely trendy now; do
you have any idea how many little girls named Emma there are out
there?????? Super SUPER popular name (not that I don't like it, it's
just that everything is relative)> When I hear Emma I think not of "fat
ladies in flowered dresses," as you said, but of a little kid in
Oshkosh, at a modern playground. Heck, Gary's daughter on
"thirtysomething" was named Emma! And what about Emma Thompson? Hardly
a frumpy great-aunt.

As for Rose, it's a flower. And better than Tulip, Daisy, Lily (also a
popular name for celeb kids these days), or Hyacinth. Not to mention
Snapdragon.

-Lane picked-my-own-name

Paul Schwartz

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some of them think the old-fashioned names I used
> for my girls are crazy -- they think of fat old ladies in big flowered
> dresses when they hear them.
>
> No accounting for tastes, eh?
>

> --
> Claire Petersky (pete...@halcyon.com)
> Mother to Rose (9/92) and Emma (11/94)

I love those names. I considered them for my daughter, but Charlotte just
fits her. We briefly considered strange or unusual names, but then we
decided that a lifetime of dealing with it wasn't worth the present
novelty. However, I don't know if the fact that I live in a working class
area has anything to do with it, when Charlotte was an infant and I was
making a quick trip to the supermarket, the cashier asked me her name.
When I told her she said they would probably tease her in school because
of it. Why, I do not know.

Cornelia

Jin Oh

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My parents picked names that wouldn't be "shortened" (i.e. no nicknames),
but now they have a "Tony" (Anthony--who Keeps telling people, "Call me
Anthony...") and "Kev" (Kevin).... At least they managed to get the
first one right--

Sharon
(one of Three in my freshman English class in the mid 1980s!)

Brandi Weed

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On Mon, 16 Jun 1997 06:00:29 -0400, Hal Phillips <bo...@webspan.net>
wrote:

>mara lee wrote:
>
>> it could be worse, of course. my youngest half sister is named Sara
>> Lee. cruel and unusual punishment, imho.
>

> You think THAT'S bad? I know a guy whose father is named Bob
>Bobis (yep, the first syllable rhymes with the first name).

I had an aunt, who died long before I was born, who came far too close
to being named Joy Weed...

Jin Oh

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Marie Houck

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I agree: names are real personal choices. The best two pieces of advice
I received on this topic were:

1) Use the name in the following sentence: "Introducing the President of
the United States, [insert full given name here]"; and

2) Stand at your front door and holler the name five times as loud as you can.

Marie, who inadvertantly picked names that I thought were familiar but
uncommon, but turned out to be VERY popular (Kathryn, Lauren and Kevin.)

Rob Myers

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On Sun, 15 Jun 1997, Mike Branom wrote:

> I once "changed" my name to Michael for about four years. I met another
> Michael and we discussed our names. He crystallized my thoughts entirely
> when he saidI don't mind people calling me Mike, but they have to ask
> first. If you introduce yourself as Michael and they call you Mike next
> time, they've blown it.

Same thing with Robert/Bob.

I *hate* "Bob." Bob is the name of some guy who's good at hanging
wallpaper and mowing the lawn. Bob Newhart. Bob Dole.

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Katrin

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On 16 Jun 1997 11:15:08 +0300, bena...@cc.helsinki.fi (Diana
Ben-Aaron) wrote:

>Wohlenberg is already unusual enough that
>she'll always be able to find herself on Alta Vista.
>
> ("My parents took a poll on the Internet. How did you get yours?")

Through a search engine, I found at least three other Katrins who are
married to guys named Tom. :)

Once in a while I toy with the idea of writing to them and starting a
little club...but the introductions would probably be just too
confusing.
_______
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write it myself.

Katrin

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On Mon, 16 Jun 1997 01:34:16 -0700, mbr...@humboldt1.com (Mike
Branom) wrote:

> The name would've been mine and mine alone, though. I think in my entore
>life, I've met ONE Jody and no Jody Lynns.

Wow, really? I seem to recall that there were two Jod(i/y) Lynns in
just my sister's circle of friends alone. And I've known *tons* of
other girls named Jodi (the more common spelling).

Christina Stanley

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I *love* my name! My parents named me after Christina Rossetti. (Ma
was a lit major)

My grandmother and her sister are named Gloria and Joan, after Gloria
Swanson and Joan Crawford. I think this is just so cool.

Christina, who has wasted large chunks of her life on the movies.


50% Mary, 50% Rhoda

TMByrd

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In article <5o4b9q$1e...@newssvr02-int.news.prodigy.com>,
JSZ...@prodigy.com (Jin Oh) writes:

>My parents picked names that wouldn't be "shortened" (i.e. no nicknames),

>but now they have a "Tony" (Anthony--who Keeps telling people, "Call me
>Anthony...") and "Kev" (Kevin).... At least they managed to get the
>first one right--
>
>

I knew a guy in high school named Billy. His mom assumed if she named him
Bill (like she really wanted to), everyone would call him Billy. Since
she hated nicknames, she chose Billy. Except he hated it & ended up being
called Bill anyway.

tmb

marco anglesio

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Well, I used to *hate* being called Marco. Now, I sort of like it; it's
distinctive (except that there's another Marco - Marco Giacomello - in my
department at work, and we're both unix/networking geeks), and Marco Paolo
Anglesio does roll of the tongue quite musically.

So, in the balance, I like it. And 10 years of teasing built character,
really.

m.

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Chris Moorehead

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p...@bigfoot.com (Paul Schwartz) wrote:

The only thing to be afraid of will be when one of the neighbourhood
urchins discovers that it rhymes with 'harlot'. Of course, that may
be too large a word for the locals to learn...

chris
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naomi pardue

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Distribution:

Lane Browning (rain...@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
> > An ambisexual name (Jordan for a girl)
>
> Hold it, hold it! Thare are more female Jordans than there are males!
> Yes, really! Jordan is a river and a country.

That is true of the current generation of children, but for a long time,
Jordan was the male name, and Jordana was the female version. Only
recently has Jordan become popular for girls.

> > A place name (Dakota, India, Sierra)
>
> But almost ANY name is a place name! Check an atlas; there are cities
> named James, Bob (yes), Karen, William...and (see below) Rose...

Generally in those cases the given name came first and the place name was
given to name the town after the founder.

Naomi

Crazy Uncle Joe

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bwoh...@nospam.crl.com said:
>Rob Myers <ro...@detnews.com> wrote:
>: I can hear the "hey, eye lash!" jokes now.
>
>I thought of this, and am expecting kids to call her Alien, too.

OK, I'm archiving this. If you name her Ailish I'm going to mail it
to her when she hits 10. "YOU KNEW THEY WOULD CALL ME ALIEN???
IHATEYOUIHATEYOUIHATEYOU!"

>No relatives that anyone is in contact with, but Jen had an Irish
>co-worker, Alan, at her job (before she quit, that is). Alan has only
>been in the US for a couple of years, and his sister's name is Siobhan,
>BTW. Jen asked him what he thought about Ailish or Aidan (before we knew
>it was a girl), and he said, "Sweet divine Jesus, what ever happened to
>Mary or Patrick!?"

ROTFLMAO!!!

It's strange, but I consider Mary and Patrick to be "Irish-Catholic"
or, more accurately "Irish-American" - rather than Irish. I think a
unique name is wonderful, once you get to a certain age... the trick
is to give them something they can use until then. Of course, as we
have discussed before, kids will make fun of you even if you have a
"normal" name...

Joe - and believe me, I know what I'm talking about
Crazy Uncle Joe
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Crazy Uncle Joe

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Ed and Phantom MacLennan <the8...@vabch.com> said:
>L. Shelton Bumgarner wrote:
>> shi...@newstand.syr.edu (Sara Hively) wrote:
>>
>> >Uncommon names that are spellable and pronounceable aren't that hard to
>> >find if you look back a generation or two.
>>
>> I see that problem TODAY! I work for a small community newspaper and
>> damn if thar ain't some weird named people out there.

>I guess I qualify. In my family, we have all three extremes. My given
>name is Phantom. Yes really. Okay, you can stop laughing now. My
>sisters are Jennifer and Cristyna. Of the three, I'll take mine,
>thankyouverymuch. Jenn was always one of 8 or 10 Jennifers in every
>grade of school (she is 25 now). and Cristyna is just plain a goofy
>spelling--she says it's far worse than having an odd, but spellable
>name. There's a fine line between uncommon and just plain weird. My
>son's name (Keith) fits the uncommon category. There aren't too many of
>them out there under the age of 25. Our daughter (God rest her soul) is
>named Aria--again, not too common, but not too awful. Mine, on the
>other hand, falls into the category of Just Plain Weird.

Your dad wanted a horse, didn't he?

Joe

Katrin

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On 17 Jun 1997 03:13:05 GMT, tmb...@aol.com (TMByrd) wrote:

>I knew a guy in high school named Billy. His mom assumed if she named him
>Bill (like she really wanted to), everyone would call him Billy. Since
>she hated nicknames, she chose Billy. Except he hated it & ended up being
>called Bill anyway.

I had a friend in school whose older brother was named Ricky (not
Richard). I suppose it was fine when he was a kid, but he quickly grew
up to be a big fat greasy guy with a puny little mustache. He
eventually shortened it to Rick.

Tim Irvin

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In article <33a6c2ba...@news.ucdavis.edu>,
bra...@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us (Brandi Weed) wrote:

> On Mon, 16 Jun 1997 06:00:29 -0400, Hal Phillips <bo...@webspan.net>
> wrote:
>
> >mara lee wrote:
> >
> >> it could be worse, of course. my youngest half sister is named Sara
> >> Lee. cruel and unusual punishment, imho.
> >
> > You think THAT'S bad? I know a guy whose father is named Bob
> >Bobis (yep, the first syllable rhymes with the first name).
>
> I had an aunt, who died long before I was born, who came far too close
> to being named Joy Weed...

I used to work with a Vietnamese woman whose last name was Do (which,
for those in less ethnically diverse areas, is pronounced "dough").
Anyway, when she had her first child, she wanted to give him a good,
conforming Western name.

They named him John.

Yep. John Do.

Well, it took a couple of days and a lot of buzzing around the office
before she went to the courthouse and got it legally changed...

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Ms Tory Caplan

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Spiros Triantafyllopoulos (stri...@primenet.com) wrote:

: Today I saw two kids, one named "Echo" (shoot me, please) and another
: named "Avery". Why anyone would name their kid after a software package
: (ok, the package is spelled Ecco ;-)) or a stationery supply company
: escapes me...

I have a step- uncle named Avery, it was a surname in his family.
His dad's name was Delano and my step-dad is Denison.

Echo, it is a little bit odd, but I'd rather that than Narcissus.
I have an acquaintance here in Hong Kong (a man) whose English name is
Echo. I thought it odd because I considered it a female name.

- Tory (short for Victoria)

Ms Tory Caplan

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naomi pardue (npa...@indiana.edu) wrote:
: Distribution:

: Lane Browning (rain...@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
: > > An ambisexual name (Jordan for a girl)
: >
: > Hold it, hold it! Thare are more female Jordans than there are males!
: > Yes, really! Jordan is a river and a country.

: That is true of the current generation of children, but for a long time,
: Jordan was the male name, and Jordana was the female version. Only
: recently has Jordan become popular for girls.

But Naomi, what about the female character Jordan in The Great
Gatsby? She was Daisy's friend, the one who cheated at golf. That novel
was written in the 1920's.

- Tory

Daniel R. Reitman

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On Mon, 16 Jun 1997 18:24:00 -0500, meh...@netgate.net (Marie Houck)
wrote:

>I agree: names are real personal choices. The best two pieces of advice
>I received on this topic were:

>1) Use the name in the following sentence: "Introducing the President of
>the United States, [insert full given name here]"; and

>2) Stand at your front door and holler the name five times as loud as you can.

How does this explain Millard Fillmore?

Dan, ad nauseam

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Deanna Walker

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I've always hated my name (until I had children of my own and became
forgiving) just because of HOW the name was attained. My first name is
Doris, Middle is Deanna. Doris was my dads first girlfriends name. I
always thought it was insulting to my mother to use that name (and could
never understand why she let him get away with it), then I realized, we
were talking about first girlfriend at age 15 or whatever, and he truly
just loved the name. And there all those years I probably hurt his
feelings. However, I still prefer to be called Deanna, as that's what
my mother called me all my life! Just my two cent story!

Good day!

Alan_Browning

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In article <33a75746...@news.teleport.com>, drei...@teleport.com says...

>
>On Mon, 16 Jun 1997 18:24:00 -0500, meh...@netgate.net (Marie Houck)
>wrote:
>
>>I agree: names are real personal choices. The best two pieces of advice
>>I received on this topic were:
>
>>1) Use the name in the following sentence: "Introducing the President of
>>the United States, [insert full given name here]"; and
>
>>2) Stand at your front door and holler the name five times as loud as you
can.

We considered initials, possible nicknames, rhymes made on the name, family
names, and age appropriateness when we named our kids. Ended up with Alex (not
Alexander) and Catherine (also my siser-in-law's name). They translate well,
too. Third child is Evan.

A true story: My sister-in-law was married to a Muslim from Tanzania. One
couple in his extended family, also living in the States, wanted to give their
son a name that had been in their family for a long time. I don't know how it
was spelled but it was pronounced Pea-noose. Talk about trouble...

Alan


James

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Cool names from my family tree: My grandmother *b. 1895* Rosina
Geneveive, my g-grandmother, b. 1872 Vitaline, my grandfather b 1901
Armand later changed to Samuel, my other grandfather, b. 1881 (!) Rudy.

others unusual and cool: Georgia, Quentin, Oliver, Stella, Minnie, and
Louis.


--
James Laforest
Editorial Assisant
University of Michigan Press

Lauria Blackwell

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I thought I'd throw in my 2 cents as a person who loves
her name. My name (Lauria) is a bit hard to spell, though
not that hard to pronounce. It is often mis-heard as
Gloria when I am introduced to people. People who read
it quickly often think it is Laura or Laurie, or that it
is a misspelling. You'd think that this would drive me
crazy. Well it doesn't. I really love my name! It's unique
and it's beautiful and it's meaningful!

I think the big factor for me is that it is a name with
family connections. It is my grandmother's name and my mom's
middle name and it will probably be my daughter's middle name,
when I have one. It makes me feel connected to that side of
my family, it's like having two family names. It's something
special that I share with my grandma and my mom.

When people get it wrong, I correct it if I think it matters,
and I ignore it if I think it doesn't. If it's someone that
I'm not likely to meet ever again, I just let it go. Who cares
if somebody's friend's cousin's brother-in-law thinks my name
is Laurel?

One of the great things about having a unique name is that
no one ever forgets it! You don't get mixed up with 15
other Donnas or Jennifers. I am the only Lauria in town
and I love it!


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/ _ o _ Lauria Blackwell
/_ (_/ /_/ /~ / (_/ (Lau...@erato.usask.ca)
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Michael LeBlanc

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In article <mbranom-ya0240800...@news2.humboldt1.com>,
Mike Branom <mbr...@humboldt1.com> wrote:

> I once "changed" my name to Michael for about four years. I met another
>Michael and we discussed our names. He crystallized my thoughts entirely
>when he saidI don't mind people calling me Mike, but they have to ask
>first. If you introduce yourself as Michael and they call you Mike next
>time, they've blown it.

People usually do ask first, I've found. I hate being called "Mike", unless
the person is (1) a family member or (2) can't pronounce "Michael" because
English isn't their first language. Bothers the hell out of me.

Factoid: "Michael" was the most common name given to boys in 1967 (It was
"Jennifer" for girls). Hey, maybe I should go look up that table and post
it (it was in some "History of English" textbook, I think I still have it
at home somewhere).

Grrrrrr. And then there's the last name, LeBlanc. I grew up in a mostly
Irish/Italian neighborhood, so for a while I did think it was a pretty
unique last name, with that capital B and that "nc" at the end... but in the
great wide world of adulthood it's fairly common. Also, most Americans tend
to pronounce it "lerblank". Not very flattering.

I've thought about changing it to my mother's maiden name, but somehow
"LaRocque" doesn't seem like enough of a change to merit the red tape <g>.

:Michael

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Lane Browning

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Daniel R. Reitman wrote:
>
> On Mon, 16 Jun 1997 18:24:00 -0500, meh...@netgate.net (Marie Houck)
> wrote:
>
> >I agree: names are real personal choices. The best two pieces of advice
> >I received on this topic were:
>
> >1) Use the name in the following sentence: "Introducing the President of
> >the United States, [insert full given name here]"; and
>
> >2) Stand at your front door and holler the name five times as loud as you can.
>
> How does this explain Millard Fillmore?
>
> Dan, ad nauseamOr Jimmy Carter. President Jimmy?


Carole Pergunas

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A kid's name can be a burden or a joy to them. My husband and I were/are
Dr. Who (excellent Brit. sci-fi show of the 60's and 70's) fans, and we
really liked the names of two of the Doctor's companions, Tegan and
Nissa, as candidate names for our children. My husband favoured Nissa, I
liked them both. When my sister-in-law, who is a teacher, came to visit
one day I mentioned that we were thinking of using one of those names if
the baby was a girl. Her reply was immediate, she didn't miss a beat,
"Nissa? The kids at school will call her Nissa-pissa." Growing up being
called Carol-the-barrel in school was bad enough, Nissa-pissa would be
awful.
So, Tegan is 6 now, doing well in school, and she says she likes her name
(although she has a secret name for herself, Serena, after Sailor Moon!).
You can't win.
Carole
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Marsha Roana

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Hal Phillips <bo...@webspan.net> wrote:

>mara lee wrote:

>> it could be worse, of course. my youngest half sister is named Sara
>> Lee. cruel and unusual punishment, imho.

> You think THAT'S bad? I know a guy whose father is named Bob
>Bobis (yep, the first syllable rhymes with the first name).

I had a science teacher at highschool named Phillip Phillips. the mind
boggles....


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Beverley R. White

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Carole Pergunas <perg...@inforamp.net> wrote:
>So, Tegan is 6 now, doing well in school, and she says she likes her name
>(although she has a secret name for herself, Serena, after Sailor Moon!).

I named my Pentium Usagi, after Sailormoon, and the drives on the Powerbook
Michiru and Haruka after the cute dyke couple (Sailorneptune/Sailoruranus).
Can't win. :)

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rani

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Jill Moore wrote:
>
> Claire Petersky (pete...@halcyon.com) wrote:
> : Ain't that the truth? I personally would never name my kid:

>
> : An ambisexual name (Jordan for a girl)
> : A last name used for a first name (McKenzie, Parker)
> : A place name (Dakota, India, Sierra)
> : A really popular name (Kaitlin)
> : A name of something associated with things that are expensive (Bentley,
> : Tiffany)
>
> : ...and yet there are plenty of people I know and respect who have named
> : their kids this way. And some of them think the old-fashioned names I used

> : for my girls are crazy -- they think of fat old ladies in big flowered
> : dresses when they hear them.
I hated my name until I was about 18, then it became kind of nice to
have someone be able to call me in a crowd and I would be the only one
to turn around.

I have also noticed that people are really proud when they pronounce it
right the first time (pro. "rainy", sp. "Rani") if they have only seen
it on paper.

The irritating part, being called Ronny, Renee, Rany, etc. Or having it
spelled in any number of strange ways. But that's not too bad.

The most ironic part is that when I was younger, one of my best friends'
name is Rameh (pro. "ramie"), so we both responded to the same calls.

There is no perfect name.

As far as people naming their children before birth, I knew my daughter
would be "Chloe Marie" before I was even pregnant. And she is such the
Chloe!

Rani
(I'm just as odd as my name, thank goodness!)

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Katrin

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On 18 Jun 1997 23:58:51 GMT, Carole Pergunas <perg...@inforamp.net>
wrote:

>So, Tegan is 6 now, doing well in school, and she says she likes her name

A friend of a friend of mine also named her daughter Tegan. I don't
know if she's a Dr. Who fan or if she thought she made up the name - I
heard it described as "Megan, but with a T."

Cheryl Malaguti

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I don't hate my name, per se, but I *really* hated having the same
name as so many other people in my near-age group.

Regarding the nickname discussion, that's one thing we're thinking a
lot about in trying to pick names. It bugs me when other people
shorten one's name (even if it's family or friends); using a nickname
should be the choice of the namee. We've discarded a couple of names
because of "No, then he'll get called ______".

Lane Browning

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Cheryl Malaguti wrote:
>
> I don't hate my name, per se, but I *really* hated having the same
> name as so many other people in my near-age group.

Yep, my best friend (born the day after I was) was named Cheryl. Wonder
what became of her...


>
> should be the choice of the namee. We've discarded a couple of names
> because of "No, then he'll get called ______".

Definitely, be aware of this!!! Strangers do it WANTONLY! If your name
is James they immediately trot out Jim! Emerson would be a cool name,
but the kid would be "Emmy" or "em" or "Emmo." Harrison is nice, but
right away you're Harry. Want to be named Gulliver? Better be ready
for Gully or Gull! My son's two-syllable name is forever being
truncated to one.

One idea is to pick a one-syllable name, although people do occasionally
call me Laney.

A woman named Gay became Gayski or Gaydee.


Katrin

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On Wed, 18 Jun 1997 11:30:21 GMT, lip...@atlantic.net (Chuck Lipsig)
wrote:

> I have an uncle who came close to being named Justin Case. When my aunt
>was pregnant with my cousin, they joked (I hope) that if it was a girl,
>they were going to name her Charity.

My sister's ex-husband's brother (my former brother-in-law-in-law)
named his two sons Justin and Casey.

TMByrd

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In article <5o91e9$o...@cocoa.brown.edu>, Alan_B...@brown.edu
(Alan_Browning) writes:

>We considered initials, possible nicknames, rhymes made on the name,
family

Don't forget the initials!!! A friend of mine's brother was almost named
Frederich Ulrich Charles Kaufke"

tmb

Vicky Larmour

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In article <5o96uf$s...@tribune.usask.ca>,
lau...@erato.usask.ca (Lauria Blackwell) wrote:

>I thought I'd throw in my 2 cents as a person who loves
>her name. My name (Lauria) is a bit hard to spell, though
>not that hard to pronounce. It is often mis-heard as
>Gloria when I am introduced to people. People who read
>it quickly often think it is Laura or Laurie, or that it
>is a misspelling. You'd think that this would drive me
>crazy. Well it doesn't. I really love my name! It's unique
>and it's beautiful and it's meaningful!

I have a friend whose name is Heidilora, usually shortened to
just Heidi. People often write Heidi-Laura (or even without the
hyphen). In fact, when she started at Kindergarten the teacher
apparently insisted she was spelling it wrong and she had to get
a note from her parents to say it really was Heidilora! :-)

Vicky

Leah R Kauffman

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Excerpts from netnews.alt.society.generation-x: 18-Jun-97 Re: Do you
hate your name? by david s. broudy@wocket.p
> - I named my Pentium Usagi, after Sailormoon, and the drives on the Powerbook
> - Michiru and Haruka after the cute dyke couple
(Sailorneptune/Sailoruranus).
> - Can't win. :)
>
> Nyuk!
>
> My PowerMac is unnamed (not on a network so why bother). The two hard
> drives are "Junebug" and "To Let".

My work PowerMac is named something boring, but the HD is named
"Millenium Falcon." My home PowerMac HD is named "Gwondanaland."


Christopher Dye

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Chuck Lipsig wrote:

: I have an uncle who came close to being named Justin Case. When my aunt
: was pregnant with my cousin, they joked (I hope) that if it was a girl,
: they were going to name her Charity.

I've often considered calling a child, if I ever have one, Tyson, for the
nickname value :-)

Seeya!

Chris

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Tom Salyers

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In article <frantic-ya0240800...@news.primenet.com>,
fra...@wocket.primenet.com (david s. broudy) says...

> My PowerMac is unnamed (not on a network so why bother).

I named mine just because I'm planning to network it at some point. It's
called "Tom Servo".

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Hal Phillips

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Cheryl Malaguti wrote:

> Regarding the nickname discussion, that's one thing we're thinking a
> lot about in trying to pick names. It bugs me when other people
> shorten one's name (even if it's family or friends); using a nickname

> should be the choice of the namee. We've discarded a couple of names
> because of "No, then he'll get called ______".

Good call. My parents were looking for a name beginning with H
for me, in honor of my great-grandfather Hugo. Hugh was apparently a
contender for a while, but they didn't want people calling me Baby Huey.

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Alan_Browning

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In article <5o9snr$9...@news.inforamp.net>, perg...@inforamp.net says...


>"Nissa? The kids at school will call her Nissa-pissa." Growing up being
>called Carol-the-barrel in school was bad enough, Nissa-pissa would be
>awful.
>So, Tegan is 6 now, doing well in school, and she says she likes her name
>(although she has a secret name for herself, Serena, after Sailor Moon!).
>You can't win.

Did you consider Leela or Sarah Jane?

Alan (favorite doctor = Tom Baker)


Spiros Triantafyllopoulos

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Jun 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/19/97
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Hal Larson <hla...@mail.hesch-prod.com> wrote:
: An ethnic name when you're not of that ethnicity (white-bread wasp parents
: with a daughter named "Moesha.")

Can't tell, tho. I once had a classmate who looked (Far East) Asian,
spoke English with a Spanish accent (!), and had a Christian name.
Her family had moved to Central America from Asia :-). Is my daughter
'ethnic' by looks alone?

: A name of a car (Chevy, Mercedes, etc). Might not apply if your surname
: IS the name of a car (I know a guy named Ralph Mustang, and there's
: probably at least one person in Japan with a last name of Honda.)

Mercedes is a popular name in Iran, and probably Spain if my sources
are right. As for Honda, it was founded by Mr. Sochihiro Honda. Almost
ditto for Eiji Toyoda, founder of Toyoda Automatic Loom Works (?),
which eventually became Toyota. Both are family names, as are many
US companies.

Spiros (name expert by necessity :-()
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Nicole Markee

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On Sun, 15 Jun 1997, Daniel R. Reitman wrote:
> >I once knew a couple named Terry and Sharon who named their daughter
> >Taron.

Our next door neighboors named their daughter Davona, after her father,
David.

-Nicole
(who was almost a Danielle Nicole instead of a Nicole Renee)

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Brandi Weed

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Jun 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/19/97
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On 18 Jun 1997 23:06:00 -0700, fra...@wocket.primenet.com (david s.
broudy) wrote:

>In article <5oa76j$f...@huitzilo.tezcat.com>, wedn...@huitzilo.tezcat.com


>(Beverley R. White) wrote:
>
>- I named my Pentium Usagi, after Sailormoon, and the drives on the Powerbook
>- Michiru and Haruka after the cute dyke couple (Sailorneptune/Sailoruranus).
>- Can't win. :)
>
>Nyuk!
>

>My PowerMac is unnamed (not on a network so why bother).

I ended up naming my Pentium Pandemonium (I'm sorry, but "My Computer"
is hopelessly dull). Haven't named the drives-- there doesn't really
seem to be a need to.

The critter sitting on top of the monitor is named Guillaume, though.

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Hal Larson

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pete...@halcyon.com (Claire Petersky) wrote:

>: Naming children is a very personal thing.

>
>Ain't that the truth? I personally would never name my kid:
>
>An ambisexual name (Jordan for a girl)
>A last name used for a first name (McKenzie, Parker)
>A place name (Dakota, India, Sierra)
>A really popular name (Kaitlin)
>A name of something associated with things that are expensive (Bentley,
>Tiffany)
>
>...and yet there are plenty of people I know and respect who have named
>their kids this way. And some of them think the old-fashioned names I used
>for my girls are crazy -- they think of fat old ladies in big flowered
>dresses when they hear them.
>

>No accounting for tastes, eh?
>
>--
>Claire Petersky (pete...@halcyon.com)
>Mother to Rose (9/92) and Emma (11/94)

Add to that list:

A name that is used primarily as a stage name by strippers (champagne,
flame, exstacy, tiffany, etc.) At least that's what some of my friends
tell me strippers call themselves. I, uh, wouldn't know personally...

A goofy name on purpose: I knew a girl named Pam Burger, and another
named Mona Groane. But then, if we had had a girl her first and middle
names might have been "Crystal Claire." We thought we'd pursuade her
to take up country/western music as a career.

An ethnic name when you're not of that ethnicity (white-bread wasp parents
with a daughter named "Moesha.")

A name of a car (Chevy, Mercedes, etc). Might not apply if your surname

Dean H. Saxe

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My soon-to-be-ex-advisor had me set up her new computer. She is notoriusly
southern, the accent really stands out on the phone. Anyway, I named her
new 7300/200 (*lust*drool*) "Kiss My Grits."

-Dean

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Marie Houck

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Jun 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/19/97
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In article <33A94B...@webspan.net>, Hal Phillips <bo...@webspan.net> wrote:

> Cheryl Malaguti wrote:
>
> > Regarding the nickname discussion, that's one thing we're thinking a
> > lot about in trying to pick names. It bugs me when other people
> > shorten one's name (even if it's family or friends); using a nickname
> > should be the choice of the namee. We've discarded a couple of names
> > because of "No, then he'll get called ______".
>
> Good call. My parents were looking for a name beginning with H
> for me, in honor of my great-grandfather Hugo. Hugh was apparently a
> contender for a while, but they didn't want people calling me Baby Huey.
>

Popular culture does get in the way. I really wanted to name a daughter
after my grandmother, Olive. However, since she was named, Popeye came
along, and my partner just wouldn't hear of it. He was probably right.

Marie (whose given name ends with "ie", but isn't a diminutive. And I've
always loved my given name, Marie Elaine.)

Tom Salyers

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In article <33a9cb47...@news.dimensional.com>,
kat...@dimensional.com (Katrin) says...
> On Thu, 19 Jun 1997 11:08:02 -0400, Hal Phillips <bo...@webspan.net>
> wrote:

> > Well, these things CAN work... Billy Dee Williams scans just
> >fine.
>
> But how many of you knew that the "Dee" is short for December? (It's
> true.)

December? Now is the winter of our Harvey Dent.....

James Walker

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On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Deanna Walker wrote:

> I've always hated my name (until I had children of my own and became
> forgiving) just because of HOW the name was attained. My first name is
> Doris, Middle is Deanna. Doris was my dads first girlfriends name. I
> always thought it was insulting to my mother to use that name (and could
> never understand why she let him get away with it), then I realized, we
> were talking about first girlfriend at age 15 or whatever, and he truly
> just loved the name. And there all those years I probably hurt his
> feelings. However, I still prefer to be called Deanna, as that's what
> my mother called me all my life! Just my two cent story!

Yeah but you've got a great last name! ;-)

James

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Leisa Winn-Diel

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In article <33A856...@worldnet.att.net>, rain...@worldnet.att.net
says...

> Daniel R. Reitman wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 16 Jun 1997 18:24:00 -0500, meh...@netgate.net (Marie Houck)
> > wrote:
> >
> > >I agree: names are real personal choices. The best two pieces of advice
> > >I received on this topic were:
> >
> > >1) Use the name in the following sentence: "Introducing the President of
> > >the United States, [insert full given name here]"; and
> >
> > >2) Stand at your front door and holler the name five times as loud as you can.
> >

My husband and I used the names in the following sentence: Paging
Dr...(full name) or "And this is our executive vice president (insert
full name here).

We didn't aspire to the presidency..like the other respondant said,
Presidents have some wacked out names. Grover Clevland for example.

The other "test" we had was coming up with every rhyme,shortened version
and nickname we could come up with for our daughter, Reegan. (Reegan btw,
was named by misc.kidders vote.) AND we still got surprised when we were
in Seattle and someone asked us "Do you call her Regs?"

Regs? We never thought of REGS!

Leisa (pronounced LISA, not Leeza, LeICEa, Liza, LeISSA or Leanne).

Lane Browning

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Spiros Triantafyllopoulos wrote:
>
> Hal Larson <hla...@mail.hesch-prod.com> wrote:
> : An ethnic name when you're not of that ethnicity (white-bread wasp parents

> : with a daughter named "Moesha.")
>
> Can't tell, tho. I once had a classmate who looked (Far East) Asian,
> spoke English with a Spanish accent (!), and had a Christian name.
> Her family had moved to Central America from Asia :-). Is my daughter
> 'ethnic' by looks alone?

Thank you, Spiros, I was hoping someone else would tackle this
"ethnicity" issue so the list could be spared my incendiary bitchiness!
Reminds me of the supposition that a person named Nguyen could not be
"American" or that a person with the surname Gomez is a "Latino."
>
> : A name of a car (Chevy, Mercedes, etc). Might not apply if your surname


> : IS the name of a car (I know a guy named Ralph Mustang, and there's
> : probably at least one person in Japan with a last name of Honda.)
>

Katrin

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Paul

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My mother wanted to name me 'Skwaf'. My dad didnt agrue with that cuz it
was too weird. The first 3 months of my life I didnt have an official
name. Cuz I had to be named something they just named me 'Paul'.
Lameness doesnt get much lamer than Paul. Well, I dont even dislike it.
Its nice and easy. My last name is 'Stekelenburg'. Thats long and I
always have to spell. My girlfriend name is 'Keen' and I think we'll
keep her name if we marry. My dad will kill me for that so I better
marry when he's dead.

Oh yeah. When my skateboarder friends found out about the Skwaf thing,
they decided to call me Skwaf anyway. They're the only ones to do that
though.

Paul.

Chuck Lipsig

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Nicole Markee <lil...@skipper.grapevine-sys.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 15 Jun 1997, Daniel R. Reitman wrote:
>> >I once knew a couple named Terry and Sharon who named their daughter
>> >Taron.

>Our next door neighboors named their daughter Davona, after her father,
>David.

I've heard of Davida, before, but never Davona.

-CL

Mike Branom

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In article <33ab9b9...@news.ucdavis.edu>, bra...@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us
(Brandi Weed) wrote:

> On 18 Jun 1997 23:06:00 -0700, fra...@wocket.primenet.com (david s.
> broudy) wrote:
>
> >In article <5oa76j$f...@huitzilo.tezcat.com>, wedn...@huitzilo.tezcat.com
> >(Beverley R. White) wrote:
> >
> >- I named my Pentium Usagi, after Sailormoon, and the drives on the Powerbook
> >- Michiru and Haruka after the cute dyke couple
(Sailorneptune/Sailoruranus).
> >- Can't win. :)
> >
> >Nyuk!
> >
> >My PowerMac is unnamed (not on a network so why bother).
>
> I ended up naming my Pentium Pandemonium (I'm sorry, but "My Computer"
> is hopelessly dull). Haven't named the drives-- there doesn't really
> seem to be a need to.

There have been three incarnations of my Mac Performa 631CD hard drive.
I felt the need to rechristen after wiping the disk clean 'cause it got too
buggy.
Names:
Road Dog (It's prison slang for "friend." I was covering the federal
prison complex in Lompoc, Calif. at the time.)
St. Christopher (Patron saint of travelers and, hey, I surf a lot.)
Sigma 7 (This was what Mercury astronaut Wally Schirra named his capsule
because Sigma - or … - is an engineering term for the answer, summation.
Schirra wanted to make perfectly clear he wasn't going to goof off up
there, unlike Scott Carpenter, a Mercury peer who missed his splashdown
target by 200 miles because he was screwing around in the name of science.
I - a charter member of the rightstuff.cabal - was tired of my hard
drive getting gummed up because of unnecessary frills, so I chose this name
to show I mean business.)

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