Dwarfism qualify?
don
collecting SSDI?
How much would a person collect if she has never worked before.
The height of the person is about 3' 5" tall, and she does have trouble
walking.
earthpots
It depends on if the person is incapable of working as a result of problems
related to dwarfism, dwarfism by itself is not a disability according to
SSA's requirements. The condition has to cause some kind of impairment that
prevents employment. There are many people with dwarfism who are able so
work at a job and support themselves.
If the person never worked, they are not even eligible for SSDI, as it is an
insurance program for workers who paid the premiums via payroll deductions
to SSA. The only disability available for those who haven't paid into SSDI,
is SSI (Supplemental Security Income) which is a taxpayer funded welfare
program for the disabled poor, blind and elderly who have little or no other
resources. The maximim monthly benefit is $674.
If the person in question is under 24, or SSA determines they became
disabled prior to age 24, the person may qualify for SSDI based on a
parents' benefits. The benefit amount is then based on the earnings and
payments of the parents.
Applying for SSDI and SSI are the same, the state Disability Determination
Service decides if the aplicant meets the minimum requirements for 100%
disability according to SSA. There are no benefits for "partial disability".
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don
> Service decides if the aplicant meets the minimum requirements for 100%
> disability according to SSA. There are no benefits for "partial
> disability".
>
thanks for your quick responce......... when you say "no benefits for
partial disabilty"
I thought that was exactly what SSI was for, a person who could work but
not enough
to fully support himself, therefore "partially disabled" and entitled to
some benefits....
Jack
wrote:
>If the person in question is under 24, or SSA determines they became
>disabled prior to age 24, the person may qualify for SSDI based on a
>parents' benefits. The benefit amount is then based on the earnings and
>payments of the parents.
Chldhood disability benefits on the parent's acct. are paid if
disability began prior to 22.
Also, a person age 24 or younger can qualify for SSDI on his/her own
acct. if (s)he has 6 work credits out of 12. (S)he does not need 20
for 40 as is the case for people over 31.
Jack
SSDI and SSI for adults share the same medical-vocational definition
of disability.
SSI is a welfare program with very strict limits on the amt. of income
and resources.
For SSDI which is an entitlement program, you can be a millionaire in
terms of assets and resources and qualify. However, there are also
limits on the amt. of income you can earn while you are disabled.
Jack
You don't mention the person's age or work history.
SSDI requires sufficient work credits.
The SSI program recognizes growth impairments as a basis of disability
for SSI children, if they can be attributed to a
medically-determinable impairment such as an endocrine dysfunction.
See:
https://secure.ssa.gov/apps10/poms.nsf/lnx/0424598001!opendocument
DI 24598.001 Growth Impairment � General Information
(snip)
__
If the person has a disabling endocrine function, she can qualify for
SSDI or SSI for adults on that basis.
wuffa
ok I will give you the bad news and then the good news such as it is.
if someone has never worked before they can not get SSDI on there
own. :full stop:
her mite get SSI ( much less money)
earthpots
It would have to be very minimal work, and some people can work minimally
with a full disability. With SSI, any earnings from work offset the amount
of benefits, as does support from another individual. Also, assets must be
under $2000. That doesn't include things such as a house or 1 car and
necessary furnishings, such things as clothes, equipmemt needed for the
persons disability, etc. They will count the value of personal belongings
that they consider luxury items. You still have to be 100% disabled,
according to SSA's guidlines, and any work cannot be susbtantive. 100%
disabled doesn't mean 100% not able to work at all, but to not be able to do
anything that could be considered substantive, including the value of
volunteer work.
If she has medical issues related to dwarfism, and is very limited in the
amount and kind of work she can do, then she may qualify for SSI. Regardless
of whether she works or not, the maximum under SSI is $674 a month. If she
were to earn, say, $274 a month PT, then the SSI benefit would be $400. SSI
recipients also receive food stamps, Medicaid and in most states, energy
assistant. Some states, like mine, also have a renters and homeowners tax
credit program, which SSI recipients automatically qualify for; a percentage
of taxes you paid from sales, etc are refunded to you. If her income and
resources are substantially low now, she may not even have to wait to get
SSI to get Social Services benefits from the state.
Is this person a friend or relative you are inquiring about? Are you helping
her out by inquiring? If so, you can assist her with things like gathering
records and filling out forms, both with SSA and Soc Serv. The application
for disability benefits for SSI and SSDI is the same form, and can be filled
out on line. There are a number of members here that can guide you/her
through the process. Though this is proimarily an SSDI group, some of us
have knowledge of SSI, and can heklp you with that, the process is quite
similar.
PS I see that Jack has replied to you as well, he is the best for giving you
the low-down on all things SSA.
earthpots
Oooops! Wrong age, but the addidtional info the OP should know too. I had
just taken my meds and was preparing to shut down and go to bed when I
answered.
earthpots
> On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 02:32:58 -0500, "don" <d...@panix.com> wrote:
>
>> Is dwarfism considered to be disabling enough to be considered for
>> collecting SSDI?
>> How much would a person collect if she has never worked before.
>> The height of the person is about 3' 5" tall, and she does have
>> trouble walking.
>
> You don't mention the person's age or work history.
>
> SSDI requires sufficient work credits.
>
> The SSI program recognizes growth impairments as a basis of disability
> for SSI children, if they can be attributed to a
> medically-determinable impairment such as an endocrine dysfunction.
>
> See:
>
> https://secure.ssa.gov/apps10/poms.nsf/lnx/0424598001!opendocument
>
>
> (snip)
>
> __
>
> If the person has a disabling endocrine function, she can qualify for
> SSDI or SSI for adults on that basis.
I think that was one of the factors in my getting approved. I have
Non-Classic Adrenal Hyperplasia, which causes premature bone aging and
cortisol insifficiency. I got a double-whammy with Congenital Bi-Lateral Hip
Dysplasia, so I developed premature Osteoarthritis in both hips. I probably
would have eventually ended up on disability, but it came much sooner
because of a drunk driver causing me to have a severe contusion in my right
hip. At 33 yo, I just managed to have earned enough credits to qualify for
SSDI.
OP mentions the lady-in-question having difficulty walking. If she has a
substantive problem like I do, that severely limits mobility, that may be
one thing that SSA would take into consideration; especially if it involves
pain, fatigue, loss of ROM, etc. It would help if, in addition to what you
requested above, the OP could give us a little backround as to how impaired
she is with day-to-day activity and what kind of limitations she has.
don
guys told me I think
she would be qualified for SSI which is good because she would like to
attend school but
needs some kind of money to live on
don
sure why - she walks slow
She wants to attend school too
earthpots
Suggest that she apply for both SSI, and SSDI based on a parent's SSA work
history. And let SSA sort it out. She should apply under whichever parent
has the better payount, typically the dad, but not always. She will need
that parents SSA# to apply for benefits based on them. Jack can probably
provide more specifics about that. But her income would be much better if
she gets SSDI child benefits from the parent. Also, if she worked, earnings
would not be reduced like with SSI. As for her mobility, she could have a
congenital problem like me having bi-lateral hip dysplasia. She should have
X-rays done, if not done already.
PS Many states provide free college education at community and state
colleges. The classes are tuition-free, but priority is given to paying
students. And you still are responsible for purchasing materials. Her state
dept of rehab could probably tell her what schools have free tuition for SSI
& SSDI recipients.
Jack
SSDIB is out of the question.
She can qualify for childhood disability benefits on the record of an
insured parent who is deceased, or a living parent who is drawing SSDI
or SS retirement benefits. She can qualify on the record of a
qualifying stepparent or grandparent but certain support requirements
have to be met. She must submit some medical evidence to establish
that she has a disabling impairment that began before 22. Recommend
that she not do any work unless and until her claim is allowed. Once
you are allowed benefits, there are a number of work incentives that
do not exist before the claim is allowed.
To qualify for SSI adult disability, the amt. of resources she can own
is very limited. Also, her living arrangements are factored in to the
equation. Here's a handy pamphlet:
http://www.ssa.gov/ssi/text-understanding-ssi.htm
SoundChaser
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Why can she be in good enough condition to attend school, but not
enough to sit at a desk answering the phone????? Lots of dwarfs work
their asses off; look at Matt Roloff!
SoundChaser
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> On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 02:18:49 -0500, "don" <d...@panix.com> wrote:
>
>>She is 22 and has not worked........ she has trouble walking but I'm
>>not
>>sure why - she walks slow
>>
>>She wants to attend school too
>
> SSDIB is out of the question.
>
> She can qualify for childhood disability benefits on the record of
> an
> insured parent who is deceased, or a living parent who is drawing
> SSDI
> or SS retirement benefits. She can qualify on the record of a
> qualifying stepparent or grandparent but certain support
> requirements
> have to be met. She must submit some medical evidence to establish
> that she has a disabling impairment that began before 22. Recommend
> that she not do any work unless and until her claim is allowed.
> Once
> you are allowed benefits, there are a number of work incentives that
> do not exist before the claim is allowed.
The guy says she is 3'5" and has trouble walking; I'm not a
disability examiner but that hardly sounds like she is unable to work.
I can think of 100 jobs she could do. There may be more to it, but the
simple fact that she is tiny and walks slow doesn't make her disabled.
Maybe the OP can tell us more about the young lady and what it is that
would keep her from getting a sedentary job.
Jack
wrote:
Yes, short stature per se is not a basis for disability.
She apaprently has an endocrine disorder and if it limits her to the
point that it satisfies the disability requirements, she will be
allowed. She should file her applications. Nothing to lose but some
time.
Six String Stu
"Jack" <Wind...@home.home> wrote in message
how folks can't grasp the concept of legally blind. This person could have
many other hurdles and ailments we big folk wouldn't even think of.
Which isn't to say that I haven't met my share of fireballs who could run
rings around the most of us, when it came to productivity.
I@grasp_it
news:cfc66$4b192d58$45395f87$30...@ispn.net:
> I think
> about how folks can't grasp the concept of legally blind.
Folks grasp the concept of "legally blind" perfectly and conclude that in
cases such as yours it's a bunch of bull shit. You can label yourself
however you wish, but the fact of the matter is that relative to someone
who is actually blind, you are no more disabled than I am. The truth of
the matter is that you are nothing more than a fraud and a parasite on
society.
wuffa
> "Six String Stu" <hawkinn...@nccray.net> wrote innews:cfc66$4b192d58$45395f87$30...@ispn.net:
how did you get out of my PC's kill files
oh thats a new addy ok poink
wuffa@moronsrus
news:8e673609-6deb-4a27...@b36g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
>
> how did you get out of my PC's kill files
Because you are STUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUPID.
> oh thats a new addy
Exactly how long have you been asleep?
> ok poink
Who is poink?
Do you mean plonk?
If neither, what do you mean?
Do you even know?
Do you have shit for brains?
AlleyOops@moronsrus
4ax.com:
> You got the Clap for brains!
> You got to quit fu*king the old whores!
> You going to end up like Al Capone!
> No brain left. Hell you don't have a brain cell left now!
Q: What's worse than having no brain cells left, having the clap and
winding up like Al Capone?
A: Going through life as an SSDI parasite with a room-temperature IQ like
you.
AlleyOop@moronsrus
news:6g6oh598vgu820qbo...@4ax.com:
> Ha You are soooo entertaining!
> You ever try for TV job?
> I pull your chain and you come through!
> You are too easy!
>
Dream on if you wish, but the record clearly demonstrates, you are the
one whose chain is being pulled.
no_one@moronsrus
news:qm7oh5dsigph9dddh...@4ax.com:
> You want more money in your pocket? Stop paying taxes!
> You don't want to give some of it to me you will give a lot to
> Congress!
> How about all your money the government gives to other countries?
> You are picking on a very small part of government give away's!
> It's not really the money is it? You are just a crazy loon!
At least you've got part of it right. It's not about the money. It's
about where it goes. And, irresponsible morons like STUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUPID
Stu, who caused his own disability, should not be allowed to suck on the
public tit.
Cheryl
<Alle...@nul.vod> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 14:28:48 -0600, AlleyOops@moronsRus wrote:
>
> You ever try for TV job?
> I pull your chain and you come through!
> You are too easy!
Doesn't take much, does it? The guy or gal must be truly STUUUUUUUUPID.
:-))))
cheryl@moronsrus
news:EY1Tm.82683$Xf2....@newsfe12.iad:
>
> Doesn't take much, does it? The guy or gal must be truly
> STUUUUUUUUPID.
>:-))))
Immitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
Cheryl
<cheryl@moronsRus> wrote in message
news:24ydnW5035jqw73W...@giganews.com...
I would describe it more as mocking than flattery, but if it trips your
trigger to think it's flattery, go for it. LOL
cheryl@moronsrus
@newsfe24.iad:
You can describe it whatever way you like, sweetheart, but the fact of the
matter is that your commment speaks for itself. I didn't invent the
expression that I cited. It was around long before you came into being as
the unfortunate result of an unwanted premature ejaculation.
earthpots
For someone so picky about spelling, you would think he would get
*imitation* right, the word has one "m", not two.
Since I keep killfiling all his aliases, he will have to create a new one to
morph out of my killfile with. I'm sure he will, as he wants replies to be
seen by the recipient.
caaroll@constipatedcontessasrus
news:hfv7ff$jb2$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
> Cheryl wrote:
>> <cheryl@moronsRus> wrote in message
>> news:24ydnW5035jqw73W...@giganews.com...
>>> "Cheryl" <no_emai...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>> news:EY1Tm.82683$Xf2....@newsfe12.iad:
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>> Doesn't take much, does it? The guy or gal must be truly
>>>> STUUUUUUUUPID.
>>>> :-))))
>>>
>>>
>>> Immitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
>>
>> I would describe it more as mocking than flattery, but if it trips
>> your trigger to think it's flattery, go for it. LOL
>
>
> For someone so picky about spelling, you would think he would get
> *imitation* right, the word has one "m", not two.
>
> Since I keep killfiling all his aliases, he will have to create a new
> one to morph out of my killfile with. I'm sure he will, as he wants
> replies to be seen by the recipient.
No one is perfect, sweetheart. Not even you. Unlike SSDI parasites like
you, I work to earn a living and I don't need to suck on the public tit to
survive.
SoundChaser
news:yB1Um.69879$Zu5....@newsfe24.iad...
Trolls aren't real big on reality.....he's a double-digit IQer fer
sure.
SoundChaser
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> Cheryl wrote:
>> <cheryl@moronsRus> wrote in message
>> news:24ydnW5035jqw73W...@giganews.com...
>>> "Cheryl" <no_emai...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>> news:EY1Tm.82683$Xf2....@newsfe12.iad:
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>> Doesn't take much, does it? The guy or gal must be truly
>>>> STUUUUUUUUPID.
>>>> :-))))
>>>
>>>
>>> Immitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
>>
>> I would describe it more as mocking than flattery, but if it trips
>> your trigger to think it's flattery, go for it. LOL
>
>
> For someone so picky about spelling, you would think he would get
> *imitation* right, the word has one "m", not two.
>
> Since I keep killfiling all his aliases, he will have to create a
> new one to morph out of my killfile with. I'm sure he will, as he
> wants replies to be seen by the recipient.
Absolutely! What kind of foole spends all his time on the
internet, demanding to be heard? Someone no one in real life wants to
listen to.....
If it wasn't so pitiful, it would be comical.