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ido...@gmail.com

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Jul 17, 2006, 12:46:18 AM7/17/06
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tell me

tapw...@roomtemperature.deg

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Jul 17, 2006, 1:38:16 AM7/17/06
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This is a usenet newsgroup. It does not have an e-mail address. It is
carried primarily on NNTP (Net News Transfer Protocol) servers that are
accessed by newsreader programs like Outlook Express (comes with Windows)
and other specialized newsreader programs. This group is not a website
either. Googlegroups is a website that relays some newsgroups to people who
do not have "proper" access to NNTP servers.

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> tell me
>


ido...@gmail.com

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Jul 17, 2006, 6:11:28 AM7/17/06
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so who has the right to remove posts?

Coleah

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Jul 17, 2006, 9:09:13 AM7/17/06
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<ido...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> so who has the right to remove posts?
>

Check with your ISP.
They can remove your own posts.

tapw...@roomtemperature.deg

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Jul 17, 2006, 9:16:45 AM7/17/06
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Some news servers will accept a cancellation from the original poster, many
don't bother because news messages are relayed from server to server all
over the planet as soon as they are received. So a cancellation would only
affect your "home" server that you are a "client" of.
Aside from that, all servers have some way of aging out posts, and some only
retain posts for a few days, while pay servers brag about 60 day retention.

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ido...@gmail.com

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Jul 17, 2006, 9:43:33 AM7/17/06
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i removed my post a few days ago but the reply doesnt go.

Coleah

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Jul 17, 2006, 10:43:07 AM7/17/06
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<ido...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> i removed my post a few days ago but the reply doesnt go.
>

The reply will stay, along with any of the original text from your post.
Sorry.

tapw...@roomtemperature.deg

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Jul 17, 2006, 11:10:35 AM7/17/06
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Your original post is still on most of the news servers on the planet. News
servers won't accept cancellations from outside their own client base
because of the great risk of abuse.
You put it out there, and it is too late to lock the barn door, the horse
has run away.

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Tim J.

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Jul 17, 2006, 4:18:36 PM7/17/06
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On 17 Jul 2006 06:43:33 -0700, ido...@gmail.com wrote:

>i removed my post a few days ago but the reply doesnt go.

How did you do that?

Lars Eighner

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Jul 17, 2006, 4:31:57 PM7/17/06
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In our last episode,
<14snb21sg6sa8rjl4...@4ax.com>,
the lovely and talented Tim J
broadcast on alt.social-security-disability:

> On 17 Jul 2006 06:43:33 -0700, ido...@gmail.com wrote:

>>i removed my post a few days ago but the reply doesnt go.

> How did you do that?

Most real newsreaders (as opposed to web browsers that have some
news reading functions) have a cancel function. You seem to be using
Forte Agent, and although it has been a while since I used a version
of it, you should be able to find the cancel function. It is rather
pointless because only a few newsservers recognize cancels at all.

Of course, a gmail user can get the post removed from the gmail servers by
writing the google admins, but it won't affect the many copies of the
post that have reached the outside world.


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Love is the only game that is not called on account of darkness.

Tim J.

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Jul 17, 2006, 5:21:21 PM7/17/06
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On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 15:31:57 -0500, Lars Eighner
<use...@larseighner.com> wrote:

>In our last episode,
><14snb21sg6sa8rjl4...@4ax.com>,
>the lovely and talented Tim J
>broadcast on alt.social-security-disability:
>
>> On 17 Jul 2006 06:43:33 -0700, ido...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>>i removed my post a few days ago but the reply doesnt go.
>
>> How did you do that?
>
>Most real newsreaders (as opposed to web browsers that have some
>news reading functions) have a cancel function. You seem to be using
>Forte Agent, and although it has been a while since I used a version
>of it, you should be able to find the cancel function. It is rather
>pointless because only a few newsservers recognize cancels at all.

Yes, as a 10+ year usenet veteren, I'm well aware of all of that.

>Of course, a gmail user can get the post removed from the gmail servers by
>writing the google admins, but it won't affect the many copies of the
>post that have reached the outside world.

Again, I know, but I have a hunch that's not what the OP did.

I await the OP's response.

Dr Feelgood

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Jul 17, 2006, 5:49:40 PM7/17/06
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The OP posted from google and removed the post by sending a removal
request to google. The OP's post is still on my news server but has been
removed from the google archive. It takes 3 days to remove a post from
the google archive and only post made through google can be removed.
This was cherry, the one that posted through a Chinese server, to
google.com.

You can do the same thing in advance with the <X-no archive yes> command
anywhere in your post.


Dr F.


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Pop

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Jul 18, 2006, 1:41:30 PM7/18/06
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"Dr Feelgood" <drfeel...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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,,,

>
> You can do the same thing in advance with the <X-no archive
> yes> command anywhere in your post.
>
>
> Dr F.
,,,

Not as I understand it:
1. The format you gave is incorrect.
2. It cannot be "anywhere" in the post. It must either be in
the headers or the first line of the body of the post if you
can't get at the headers.

And, it still won't remove quotes of a post that someone else
includes in their post.

Realizing things change, please clarify with the source of your
information.

The correct format is:
x-no archive: yes
No?

TIA,
Pop


Dr Feelgood

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Jul 18, 2006, 2:05:39 PM7/18/06
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"Pop" <nob...@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message
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Yes that is the correct context. Google may have changed the rules
during one of their many upgrades. I haven't checked lately because I do
not use that worthless feature as it has never done anything about
quotes in replies. You used to be able to place it either in the header,
top or bottom line in the body of the post. A friend used to use it in
place of a sig line. The only thing it does is remove the OP post itself
after 3 days automatically. Google may have removed the bottom line
function to prevent top posters post from being deleted unintentionally.
Also at one time no colon was needed but I believe they fixed that
problem long ago. I might need to do some post to a test group to check
out the new command format.

Thanks for the update.


Pop

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Jul 18, 2006, 3:02:38 PM7/18/06
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"Dr Feelgood" <drfeel...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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That might be an interesting scenario. How about trying a few
variations on the contect/syntax and let us know? Last I knew it
was 6 days to removal, but ... as you said, things change and
aren't always published.

Also, obviously, that doesn't get them off ALL data collectors;
some purposely ignore it even nowadays. IMO it's a great way to
keep irrelevant posts out of the data collections though and
makes searching a lot easier. I wish more people would use it,
esp when they drift off topic.

Pop`


Doc

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Jul 19, 2006, 5:51:32 PM7/19/06
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"Pop" <nob...@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in news:ifavg.12$Wf.9@trndny01:

While I agree with you, when it comes to keeping the offtopic posts out
of the archives, I have found groups where the on topic posts were not
archived because the poster didn't want to be "on the grid" anywhere,
and all the SPAM, offtopic and other garbage was archived. Most people
who SPAM or otherwise disrupt newsgroups don't care if it is archived or
not, in fact if it is archived then they have permanently achieved thier
goals. Some groups almost appear to be nothing but garbage when the
majority of good posters aren't archived.

As for off topic... isn't this entire exchange off topic? :)


Jim

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Jul 20, 2006, 11:47:34 AM7/20/06
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Actually , olny sort of. The OP (whom I can only assume is fairly
inexperianced with USENET and maybe even a computer newbie) was wanting the
email address for this group. Since this is an open group without a
personally engaged moderator, filtering out what he/she does not want to be
associated with the title "concept?", we may not have one specific "goto"
guy. Ergo no addy.
Now where this thread has gone from the beginning may be OT but the initial
question wasn't.

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