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Watson A. Nayme

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Aug 11, 2003, 7:53:44 PM8/11/03
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USPS handles first class and priority mail, i.e. Express Mail from other
countries the same
as if it were mailed in country.
We like to think ours is handled in other countries with the same courtesy.


"Liam Hatton" <li...@hatton.name> wrote in message
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> I have sent an Express Post International pre-paid envelope today from
> Australia to somebody in the USA. It is a small cardboard envelope that
> has an insignia on the top right stating 'Air Mail' and 'Express' in
> both English and French. It also has barcodes on the bottom left, all
> barcodes on these envelopes start with 'LX' (I think this is the service
> code) + nine digits + country code 'AU' for Australia. I have a spare
> prepaid envelope and can scan it in if anybody is curious.
>
> These cost about 6 times the price of an Air Mail stamp and are for
> letters and documents only. According to the envelope, this envelope has
> guaranteed air dispatch overseas (subject to flight availability) by
> next business day, or you receive a free replacement envelope. It also
> suggests that it may get some sort of special handling overseas.
> Australia Post does not seem to give out much information on this
> service.
>
> I am interested in finding out what sort of special handling USPS gives
> this envelope over normal Air Mail once it reaches the USA. Does anybody
> (perhaps somebody who works in the USPS) know about this?
>
> ---
> Liam Hatton

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Toasterwoman

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Aug 13, 2003, 12:06:09 PM8/13/03
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"Liam Hatton" <li...@hatton.name> wrote in message
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> In article <79WZa.983$xQ1...@fe05.atl2.webusenet.com>,

> "Watson A. Nayme" <silver...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > USPS handles first class and priority mail, i.e. Express Mail from other
> > countries the same
> > as if it were mailed in country.
> > We like to think ours is handled in other countries with the same
courtesy.
>
> Thank you for your answer.
>
> I suspect the Express Post International service offered by Australia
> Post is equivalent to the Global Priority service offered by the USPS,
> but I am not sure. I have scanned a copy of the envelope at
http://tinyurl.com/jpqj if anybody knows anything about it.
>
> I do not believe that special/priority mail sent from the USA is always
> treated with the same class of service when it leaves the USA though, or
> at least not to Australia. I know that registered mail I have received
> here from the USA seems to only be treated as registered until it leaves
> the USA, after that I think the only special care it receives here is a
> signature on delivery (which is not always collected by the post office
> because they don't notice the sticker Australia Post puts on it). Also,
> Global Priority mail does not appear to receive any special treatment as
> it arrives just as fast as regular Air Mail.
>
> ---
> Liam Hatton

Unfortunately, that's the case with a lot of the countries. We have no
control once it leaves the US. While I truly believe most letter carriers
around the world have a great dedication to their job, it's the different
rules and regulations that are the stumbling blocks. One thing I never
understand was registered mail from overseas. It would sometimes reach out
office with Reg number on it, and then someone, somewhere would stamp it,
"Handle as Certified."

Anyone have any information on this?
--
§:-)

Eric Bustad

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Aug 13, 2003, 12:58:46 PM8/13/03
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IMM 752.11: "A number on an item of mail is not sufficient evidence of
registration. A registry endorsement is also required."

IMM 752.14: "Any item without evidence of formal registration must be
treated as ordinary mail. A sender’s registry endorsement on such
articles must be crossed out."

So perhaps someone decided that the item had *some* evidence of having
been registered, but not the proper endorsement. So they decided to
split the difference.

= Eric

Long Gone

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Aug 13, 2003, 3:11:32 PM8/13/03
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"Toasterwoman" <toaste...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Unfortunately, that's the case with a lot of the countries. We have no
> control once it leaves the US. While I truly believe most letter carriers
> around the world have a great dedication to their job, it's the different
> rules and regulations that are the stumbling blocks. One thing I never
> understand was registered mail from overseas. It would sometimes reach
out
> office with Reg number on it, and then someone, somewhere would stamp it,
> "Handle as Certified."
>
> Anyone have any information on this?

While it was "registered mail" in the country of origin, it does not meet
accountability standards for our registered mail. My understanding is that
normally, these type articles are string tied or otherwise secured in a way
that permits tampering. Postal Service handles it as accountable mail
(certified) to permit tracking. The markings are applied at the
international transfer point. Not sure if all of the procedures are set out
in the IMM or not.


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mew

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Aug 15, 2003, 9:48:13 PM8/15/03
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Liam Hatton <li...@hatton.name> wrote in news:liam-
6C7A9F.202...@freenews.iinet.net.au:

> I have sent an Express Post International pre-paid envelope today from
> Australia to somebody in the USA. It is a small cardboard envelope that
> has an insignia on the top right stating 'Air Mail' and 'Express' in
> both English and French. It also has barcodes on the bottom left, all
> barcodes on these envelopes start with 'LX' (I think this is the service
> code) + nine digits + country code 'AU' for Australia. I have a spare
> prepaid envelope and can scan it in if anybody is curious.
>
> These cost about 6 times the price of an Air Mail stamp and are for
> letters and documents only. According to the envelope, this envelope has
> guaranteed air dispatch overseas (subject to flight availability) by
> next business day, or you receive a free replacement envelope. It also
> suggests that it may get some sort of special handling overseas.
> Australia Post does not seem to give out much information on this
> service.
>
> I am interested in finding out what sort of special handling USPS gives
> this envelope over normal Air Mail once it reaches the USA. Does anybody
> (perhaps somebody who works in the USPS) know about this?
>
> ---
> Liam Hatton


We use this service regularly for small packages from Australia to
Atlanta...

The service is handled FAR differently than Global Priority or other
forms of mail and the delivery is consistant.

Delivery time >> shipped from AUS on Friday, we get delivery Monday
like clockwork. In fact, our last package arrived at 11:30am, and
thanks to the Express Mail tracking number that REPLACED the AUS one
in LA we knew it was at the building and was able to pick it up
within the hour (tracked on www.usps.com). The difference in cost
to us in the US (since the AUS dollar is cheap to us) is very inexpensive
when comparing it to the other levels of service -- check the Australian
Post site for a comparison in cost and you'll see what I mean. Can't beat
"over the weekend" delivery from Australia for more than 50% less than
even UPS or Fedex -- oh, and remember your UPS and FEDEX discounts DON'T
INCLUDE INTERNATIONAL INBOUND, only outbound.

Hope this explains a little to the user in Australia and USPS customers
in the US -- you can't beat this inbound service.

tHeMeW

Toasterwoman

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Aug 15, 2003, 10:42:00 PM8/15/03
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"Long Gone" <not...@nospamforadam.com> wrote in message
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We had the ones wrapped in what cloth (or whatever it was) and it came
through as a reg. Seemed most were letters. But, it's been a while.
--
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