Re: How can USPS refuse to deliver mail?
Steve
>Is this area (where they live) usually difficult to get
>to ... because of snow or other elements. If so, I can
>understand the post office not wanting to guarantee
>delivery. But, with the cost of stamps you would think
>they would deliver anywhere!
Dunno about that. I have a friend who lives deep in the mountains of
Appalachia. It seems sorta incredible that I can drop a letter into a
mailbox in California, and it will be carried 2,500 miles and
hand-delivered to him, all for the grand sum of 37 cents.
Bob Ward
<cin...@extraserve.net> wrote:
>Actor123 wrote:
>>
>> I was recently visiting my grandparents in Lake Tahoe, NV recently
>> (Incline Village to be exact) and was suprised to learn that the post
>> office doesn't deliver mail to their house. They have to go down each
>> day to the post office and retrieve it from a box (or have it delivered
>> to a "mailboxes etc." type place and pick it up there).
>>
>> I know its common in rural or sparsely populated areas to have systems
>> like this, but if you are unfamiliar with Incline Village, its a fairly
>> densely populated area and the houses are all fairly close to each
>> other with good street access (yes, even in winter). I mean, I've
>> lived in lots of places more sparsely populated than it that had
>> door-to-door mail delivery so that can't be it.
>>
>> I'm just curious how it is the USPS can do this, and what criteria they
>> use (if any) for determining whether a city gets door-to-door service?
>> Its not a huge deal, but they are getting older and it did seem a bit
>> unfair to me that they had to do this despite living in a real city,
>> while still having to pay the same postage rates as everyone else.
>>
>> I'm not saying the post office needs to deliver to every far flung
>> location in the United States, but I cannot fathom how someone could
>> justify not delivering door-to-door when access is so straightforward
>> (I'd reckon that 90+% of all the houses in the area are within a 2 mile
>> radius of the post office).
>
>Is this area (where they live) usually difficult to get
>to ... because of snow or other elements. If so, I can
>understand the post office not wanting to guarantee
>delivery. But, with the cost of stamps you would think
>they would deliver anywhere!
>
>Cinthia
Tell me, Cynthia, would you come to my house for 37 cents and take a
letter to my brother in Alaska? Then you can come back tomorrow and
take one to my sister in North Carolina.
I think if you check things out a bit, we get better results from our
postal system than most of the world does from theirs.
PayneN.Diaz
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"Cinthia Raymond" <cin...@extraserve.net> wrote in message
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If the box (assuming there is one) is accessible and there is no safety
issue, ie a free running dog, I can't think of any reason why there would be
no delivery. It's not unusual in some rural areas to have stops a half mile
or more apart, for example my dad's community in Columbia , N.C. is 90%
farming, lot's of wide open space between homes.
I've been carrying mail for 25 years and can't imagine that there's
something not included in this equation, perhaps something you aren't being
told, maybe.
... and .37 is a bargain. Compare to any other country on the planet.
Actor123
I don't know. Its not just to my grandparents house, its everywhere in
the city/town. And its every town around the entire lake. While I
guess there could be some inaccessable houses somewhere in the
community, the post office appears to have decided that there will be
no residential delivery anywhere in the area. I don't see how they can
claim accessibility as the key factor, considering they won't even
deliver to the houses on the same block as the post office, and yet
they do deliver to all businesses anywhere in the community.
I mean, it does snow in Incline Village, but absent a couple blizzard
days a year the roads are wide open - its a vacation community and the
roads need to be open so that the skiiers can get to their
destinations. It'd be like there being no residential delivery in
Aspen.
I could understand if individual houses were singled out due to
accessibility, I could even understand if this was considered a rural
community and they only delivered to stops half a mile apart, but they
don't even do that. You either come down to the post office and pick
up your mail every day, or have it delivered to a mailboxes etc. type
place and come down and pick up your mail every day.
nos...@comcast.net
wrote:
>x-no-archive: yes
>
>
>> ... and .37 is a bargain. Compare to any other country on the planet.
>
>UK- 'first class' (next day, hopefully!) mail costs 28 pence - approx
>50cents, for leters up tp 60grammes,
>anywhere in the country. if its not urgent, 21p (40c?) - probably gets sent
>on the same van/train anyways!
>
Yes, but the entire UK is about the same size as any one of the US
overnight delivery areas.
Hey! Last time I was the UK, I came home with about half my body
weight in pound coins. Anyone who can carry a pocket full of those
things is due a lot of respect.
PayneN.Diaz
"crofter" <nocr...@spam.com> wrote in message
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> x-no-archive: yes
>
>
>> ... and .37 is a bargain. Compare to any other country on the planet.
>
> 50cents, for leters up tp 60grammes,
> anywhere in the country. if its not urgent, 21p (40c?) - probably gets
> sent
> on the same van/train anyways!
Compared in size to the U.S., I got to suggest that's rather more expensive
than it appears.
But then England does have a higher tax rate on everything else too, no?
PayneN.Diaz
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> At the moment, taxes in the UK (though this could change, after the
> national
> elections that are due soon, where I understand ALL votes get counted,
> lol!)are quite high- on petrol, tobacco / alcohol products, and there's
> talk
> about taxing books too, which I think currently are VAT free..?
>
> My thinking is the oil co's blame the high tax they have to pay, though
> many
> making huge profits in the past year (billions!!) - but if they lowered to
> 'pump' price, wouldthen the tax they pay also be reduced? same percentage,
> just lower liability..? I may be missing something here..
Taxes here are based on a percentage. I would suspect it would be the same
anywhere. If it were fixed it would more apt be called a fee.
Gas prices have always been rather high on the European market, long before
"shortages" were invented.
Also lower prices would likely mean higher consumptiom, so by volume tax
revenue would increase?
>
> Also, some new roads being built are managed by private firms, who charge
> a
> toll -
I have no problem with paying to use a private road built by sweat of the
owner.
Use the lanes that existed before the private roads were built?
> soon we may have to pay for the car, the petrol, road tax, and per
> usage tolls- could be all part of a conspiracy. by shareholders of bus
> building firms?!
This part is interesting. We always have had to pay those fees (taxes) as a
built in cost.
>
> when people are on good money, then have a choice of where to go.. but i
> am
> very concerned at any who gets the minimum wage here, as barely enough to
> live on-
Should be incentive enough to progress one's skills?
> feel many companies (catering especially) rely on constant
> turnover of staffm so starting rate stays low..
On the other hand, some companies don't have general employment slots worth
more than minimum wage, if even worth that.
>people aren't expected to
> stay very long..
I would hope.
> .. bit of a bugger when you do!
I'd say it would take quite a bit of adjustment for such a lifestyle, yet
some do.
>
>
>
frogs
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> Actor123 wrote:
>>
...having to pay the same postage rates as everyone else...
end quote
It's called universal service.
Universal service however doesn't always mean, to the door.
Btw, Airborne Express contracts with USPS to deliver their "out of the way"
packages because they don't want to take on the cost of doing it
themselves.
frogs
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> Actor123 wrote:
>>
May not be a "Postal" deliverer.
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/localnews/content/local_news/epaper/2005/03/21/s1a_mail_0321.html
Comments about article
http://www.haloscan.com/comments/postalnews/111140287331811689/#127520
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-locmailboxes15031505mar15,1,5115394.story?coll=orl-news-headlines&ctrack=3&cset=true
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http://www.haloscan.com/comments/postalnews/111105936075649446/#127030
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PayneN.Diaz
PayneN.Diaz
Still want privatization?
This should be a warning sign to those who do. You might get your mail
today, and then again, you might not until next week.
Still it seems to me that USPS would still be responsible for insuring daily
delivery and is accountable for the shortcomings of contracted help.