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jhauser

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Oct 6, 2004, 3:49:32 PM10/6/04
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Hey Group,

All this talk about Old Boys and the fueling problems brought up another
point. many lighters state that you should only use their own brand fuel,
because it will not clog up or dirty the lighter fuel delivery system.
Over the years I have used Ronson, Zippo, Dunhill, Corona, Colibri. on all
my lighters. I haven't had any problems yet.

My question for you is do you use only premium fuels, and which ones are
premium? On the other hand if you do like me have you ever had any fuel
related problems with your lighter (other than Fueling).

Inquiring minds want to know???

Happy puffin
Jhauser
smokerings in NYC


Robert Crim

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Oct 6, 2004, 4:02:19 PM10/6/04
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Well here it is another year has passed since I began my experiment
with Old Boy lighters and "good" vs "bad" fuels and flints. Lets
review the experiment by reading the first post and the last update
from about a year ago:
==========================================================
On 2000/05/28 I posted the following message under the heading:
Re: Butane for Corona "old Boy" lighter

"In the spirit of scientific discovery, and since I have *two* Old
Boys thanks to Freddy's most excellent prices, I shall devote one to
Ronson products and the other to "the good stuff."

The Old Boy on Ronson (a pewter with the pipe shapes that I carry with
me) has been there for about three years while the good stuff Old Boy
a plain black that resides in my smoking cave) is relatively new, but
it gets a bit more use.

If these Old Boys last as long as I think they will, the first one
will go kaput in the year 2020 or so. I will then drag my 80 year old
butt down to (or maybe have LSW drive me) the place I got it and
demand a replacement. Or, if it is the black one, I'l ship it off to
Freddy V, who will, by then, have become the Microsoft of the tobacco
market East of the Mississippi R.

I further predict that both lighters will die before my old '71 VW bus
does.

Robert"
==========================================================
This is the latest update on the experiment.

Well, here it is almost 2004 and I feel like you should know how
things are going with the two 'subjects.' I have faithfully kept to
the fuel and flint restrictions. The pewter gets the cheap
stuff.....Ronson fuel and flints. The black gets the 'good'
stuff..........Colibri or Dunhill fuel and Corona or Dunhill flints.

I continue to alternate between the two. I use one until the fuel
runs out, then I refill it with the proper fuel/flint and use the
other until it's fuel runs out. Back and forth, back and forth
without a break.

When I refill, I give each Corona a run over with a fluffy dipped in
"Goof-Off" (actually Hexane) until it shines.

The results so far............?

I have found no difference in the performance or either lighter. Both
fire up at the first flick, and both give a good light every time.

Robert
==========================================================
So now for the big update........nothing. Both experimental lighters
are doing everything well. No clogs, no flint problems, no problems
refilling them and no difference in fuel economy.

That's it folks. After 4 years of faithfully following the
experimental design, nothing is different. Of course, I'll continue
my experiment and update you yearly of when something changes.

R......................obert
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On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 19:49:32 GMT, "jhauser" <joh...@verizon.net>
wrote:

jhauser

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Oct 6, 2004, 4:25:03 PM10/6/04
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I didn't know you kept track of this. Thanks for your info.

Jhauser
Smokeringsin NYC

"Robert Crim" <frit...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Russ A. (TURD)

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Oct 6, 2004, 4:26:37 PM10/6/04
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If is looks like butane and it smells like butane and it burns like
butane, it's butane.

Russ A.

Ken Dixon

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Oct 6, 2004, 4:48:49 PM10/6/04
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jhauser wrote:
>
> My question for you is do you use only premium fuels, and which ones are
> premium? On the other hand if you do like me have you ever had any fuel
> related problems with your lighter (other than Fueling).
>
> Inquiring minds want to know???

I use Vector gas exclusively. The can says triple refined and
cold-filtered 5 times. Don't know what all that really means but since I
started using Vector I haven't had any problems.

Ken in Miami

Joe Duffy

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Oct 6, 2004, 5:49:58 PM10/6/04
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In article <g%X8d.728$Ua.585@trndny05>, jhauser <joh...@verizon.net> wrote:
>Hey Group,
>
>All this talk about Old Boys and the fueling problems brought up another
>point. many lighters state that you should only use their own brand fuel,
>because it will not clog up or dirty the lighter fuel delivery system.
>Over the years I have used Ronson, Zippo, Dunhill, Corona, Colibri. on all
>my lighters. I haven't had any problems yet.
>
>My question for you is do you use only premium fuels, and which ones are
>premium? On the other hand if you do like me have you ever had any fuel


Yes, only triple-refined or better.


Joe

Robert Crim

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Oct 6, 2004, 6:36:58 PM10/6/04
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What does "triple refined" really mean? Is "quadruple refined" better
than triple refined? How about "quintuple refined?" "Sextuple
refined" anyone?

Does triple refined cost three times as much as single refined?

R......obert

Briarroot

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Oct 7, 2004, 2:22:23 AM10/7/04
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"Russ A. (TURD)" wrote:
>
> If is looks like butane and it smells like butane and it burns like
> butane, it's butane.

The question is: is it 100.00% butane, or just 99.9% butane?
If the latter, what's in that last .1%, and what are the long
term effects of any impurities on a lighter? Since most of us
are clueless about these questions, lighter problems are often
ascribed to impure butane. Who really knows if these concerns
have any validity? Not me! ;-)

PS: I've been using Colibri butane for years and have had good
luck with it; which the *only* Colibri product I can say that
about!


Regards,

Tim Parker ... Germain's Medium Flake in a Savinelli blast apple

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Mikey

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Oct 7, 2004, 9:43:59 AM10/7/04
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If you believe the claims of the manufacturers, it comes down to the level
of refinement of the fuel.

Vector fuel is 3X refined (they have a 4x fuel on the market now), and Lava
fuel is 5x refined. Colibri doesn' give a refinement level, but claims to
have the fewest PPM of contaminants. Corona is somewhere in the middle;
Ronson fell off the bottom of the chart.

So there ya go...

- Mikey

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Robert Crim

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Oct 7, 2004, 10:18:01 AM10/7/04
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On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 08:43:11 -0400, Rob Novak
<rob....@NOcomSPAMcast.net> wrote:

>On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 22:36:58 GMT, Robert Crim
><frit...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>What does "triple refined" really mean? Is "quadruple refined" better
>>than triple refined? How about "quintuple refined?" "Sextuple
>>refined" anyone?
>

>It should probably read "triple distilled", since that's essentially
>what's going on. Where low-impurity fuel gas is important is when you
>get into the torch lighters. Their burner orifices tend to clog if
>fuels with high levels of impurities are used. With your standard
>butane "soft flame" lighter, I don't think it makes much, if any,
>difference.

It hasn't made any difference yet...............except that fancy
fuels cost a bunch more than the Ronson fuel.

R.................obert

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