Condor tobacco?
Joseph Gielata
I'm not sure if this has been discussed on a previous thread but I am
curious about people's opinions regarding a certain Condor tobacco. I've
heard much praise for it but I'm not yet ready to invest the pains
necessary to obtain it.
cordially,
jng
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Irwin Friedman
jog...@pitt.edu (Joseph Gielata) wrote:
>I'm not sure if this has been discussed on a previous thread but I am
>curious about people's opinions regarding a certain Condor tobacco. I've
>heard much praise for it but I'm not yet ready to invest the pains
>necessary to obtain it.
> cordially,
> jng
>
older tins put away for the long term :-).
Irwin
Eminence Grise
i...@worldnet.att.net says...
> jog...@pitt.edu (Joseph Gielata) wrote:
> >I'm not sure if this has been discussed on a previous thread but I am
> >curious about people's opinions regarding a certain Condor tobacco.
Go ahead and try it - it is good. I like it.
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It's among the most heavily cased (perfumed) tobaccos on the market.
Gums up the machines used to slice the flakes. Has a unique flavor that
will hang in your pipe, so use care which wood you put it in. Wouldn't
dream of putting it in my favorite pipes, but it's a nice change of
pace.
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Al Baldwin
Joseph Gielata wrote:
>
> I'm not sure if this has been discussed on a previous thread but I am
> heard much praise for it but I'm not yet ready to invest the pains
> necessary to obtain it.
> cordially,
> jng
> ____________________________________________________
>
It is the best tobacco that I have smoked....been a pipe smoker for 30
years. Like other things in life...you either love it or hate it.
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Al Baldwin
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Bruce Harris
The worst tobacco I have ever tried. I could not get the taste out of the
pipe after only one smoke.
In article <529mno$k...@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu>, jog...@pitt.edu (Joseph
Gielata) wrote:
>I'm not sure if this has been discussed on a previous thread but I am
>curious about people's opinions regarding a certain Condor tobacco. I've
>heard much praise for it but I'm not yet ready to invest the pains
>necessary to obtain it.
> cordially,
> jng
>--
>____________________________________________________
Mark Tinsky
In article <MPG.cb36956f...@news.singnet.com.sg>,
chut...@singnet.com.sg (Eminence Grise) wrote:
>i...@worldnet.att.net says...
>> jog...@pitt.edu (Joseph Gielata) wrote:
>> >I'm not sure if this has been discussed on a previous thread but I am
>> >curious about people's opinions regarding a certain Condor tobacco.
>
>Go ahead and try it - it is good. I like it.
>
I tried it once c/o Chet Gottfried. It was very strong! Too much for my
taste. MT
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phil...@enterprise.net
I could distinctly taste Condor in a pipe that hadn't been smoked for about
15 years. It is awful stuff imho, but it is probably the best selling
tobacco in the U.K.?
Phil.
On 1996 0-09-26 bru...@webspan.net(BruceHarris) said:
>The worst tobacco I have ever tried. I could not get the taste out
>of the pipe after only one smoke.
>In article <529mno$k...@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu>, jog...@pitt.edu
>(Joseph Gielata) wrote:
>>I'm not sure if this has been discussed on a previous thread but I
>>am curious about people's opinions regarding a certain Condor
Warren Hughes
'lo world,
In article <52eugc$t...@news.enterprise.net> phil...@enterprise.net writes:
>I could distinctly taste Condor in a pipe that hadn't been smoked for about
>15 years. It is awful stuff imho, but it is probably the best selling
>tobacco in the U.K.?
This doesn't surprise me at all - Condor is the most, err.... - well now..
unique, that's it, unique pipe tobaco that I've ever had the misfortune to
experience.
Though I had though St Bruno the most popular brand in the UK.
Regards
__
Warren....
'So in the end when one is doing philosophy one gets to the point where one
would just like to emit an inarticulate sound' (Wittgenstein, PI:261, 93)
James D. Beard
Condor actually comes in several variations. The Original version is
either the first or second most popular pipe tobacco in the UK (with St.
Bruno holding the other position). It is the mass-market counterpart to
U.S. "drugstore tobaccos," but there is a world of difference between
them.
In the UK, I found a fair number of veteran pipe smokers who would smoke
nothing but Condor Original. I found it a good tobacco, but I prefer the
taste of Gawith & Hoggarth flake tobaccos.
On 24 Sep 1996, jog...@pitt.edu (Joseph Gielata) wrote ...
>> I'm not sure if this has been discussed on a previous thread but I am
>> curious about people's opinions regarding a certain Condor tobacco. I've
>> heard much praise for it but I'm not yet ready to invest the pains
>> necessary to obtain it.
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Christopher Wilkins
In article <mt-260996...@pclk-76ppp45.epix.net>, m...@epix.net (Mark Tinsky) says:
>
>In article <MPG.cb36956f...@news.singnet.com.sg>,
>chut...@singnet.com.sg (Eminence Grise) wrote:
>
>>i...@worldnet.att.net says...
>>> jog...@pitt.edu (Joseph Gielata) wrote:
>>> >curious about people's opinions regarding a certain Condor tobacco.
>>
>>
>I tried it once c/o Chet Gottfried. It was very strong! Too much for my
>taste. MT
>
>--
>Web Site http://AmSmoke.com
I agree with Mark, it is strong.... and it comes in a variety of ways (or used to)....
There is the usual ready rubbed and Longcut variety ( I prefer the long cut myself)
It is also available as a pigtail twist. This is like a rope of tobacco, very strong and not to
my taste, and it comes as a compressed 'plug'. These last two are ideal for people who have
little spare storage and need a quantity of tobacco with them. I used to take the plug
with me when I was backpacking because 2oz was only about half by a quarter by two inches
long ( rough sizes -it was some time ago). It took a lot of rubbing out and didn't smoke
particurly well - kept going out! Condor has a very strong, long lasting flavour, that once you
get used to you tend to keep on liking. Of course I smoke other tobacco's but I still keep a
couple of ounces of Condor on the go.
Beware:If you are new to it, it can give you a very sore throat. smoke slowly and put the pipe
down if your throat is complaining.
Also, It can make you very sick if you oversmoke, even if you have smoked it for a
few years.
The end result can be rewarding, but like a sport, you won't get anywhere unless you persist.
Brian R. Oldham
In article <27225371...@blckhrse.clark.net>, "James D. Beard" (j...@blckhrse.clark.net) writes:
>Condor actually comes in several variations. The Original version is
>either the first or second most popular pipe tobacco in the UK (with St.
>Bruno holding the other position). It is the mass-market counterpart to
>U.S. "drugstore tobaccos," but there is a world of difference between
>them.
>
>In the UK, I found a fair number of veteran pipe smokers who would smoke
>nothing but Condor Original. I found it a good tobacco, but I prefer the
>taste of Gawith & Hoggarth flake tobaccos.
>
>On 24 Sep 1996, jog...@pitt.edu (Joseph Gielata) wrote ...
>>> heard much praise for it but I'm not yet ready to invest the pains
>>> necessary to obtain it.
>
Umm! I don't know about several variations. I know only one 'Condor'.
I've tried it and I didn't like it. Too heavily perfumed.
---
Brian Oldham
Nottingham UK
Christopher Wilkins
In article <843834006s...@nanabozo.demon.co.uk>, Warren Hughes <War...@nanabozo.demon.co.uk> says:
>
>'lo world,
>
>In article <52eugc$t...@news.enterprise.net> phil...@enterprise.net writes:
>
>>I could distinctly taste Condor in a pipe that hadn't been smoked for about
>>15 years. It is awful stuff imho, but it is probably the best selling
>>tobacco in the U.K.?
>
>This doesn't surprise me at all - Condor is the most, err.... - well now..
>unique, that's it, unique pipe tobaco that I've ever had the misfortune to
>experience.
>
>Though I had though St Bruno the most popular brand in the UK.
Now this is getting a bit unfair. I pause to load my Tilshead with 3 or 4 slices of Long cut
Condor before replying to this.
I have a Charatan that I obtained from Rob Denholtz, and a lovely
pipe it is too! But, whenever I smoke it, regardless of whether I load it with a strong Latakia,
or my beloved Condor, when I get down to the bottom of the bowl I can taste the awful stuff that
a load of people smoke, namely Fruit flavoured tobacco. Darn it, if I want fruit I'll eat an
apple pie, but in my tobacco YuuuuccccKKKKK! And you say Condor is bad?
Ah well! It just goes to show that there are different strokes for different folks..
It means that there is more Condor for me!
I supose it is a toss up between St Bruno and Condor.... Now all those Brits can't be totally
wrong.
Chris from Derby
A Condor smoking Brit!
Brian R. Oldham
In article <52uddv$e...@mapperley.innotts.co.uk>, Christopher Wilkins (bigc...@innotts.co.uk) writes:
>In article <843834006s...@nanabozo.demon.co.uk>, Warren Hughes <War...@nanabozo.demon.co.uk> says:
>
>>Though I had though St Bruno the most popular brand in the UK.
>
>slices of Long cut Condor before replying to this.
>
>I have a Charatan that I obtained from Rob Denholtz, and a lovely
>pipe it is too! But, whenever I smoke it, regardless of whether I load
>it with a strong Latakia, or my beloved Condor, when I get down to
>the bottom of the bowl I can taste the awful stuff that a load of
>people smoke, namely Fruit flavoured tobacco. Darn it, if I want fruit
>I'll eat an apple pie, but in my tobacco YuuuuccccKKKKK! And you say
>Condor is bad?
>
No no, Chris. What they say is: Derby people are strong int th'arm an'
wick int th'ead. Now we Nottingham folk are renowned or our good taste.
I like an even mix of Grand Cut (Loose from Josiah Brown) and Ogden's
Gold Block. Unlike Condor, totally natural and no nasty flavours.
Hmmm! back to me hammock :)
James D. Beard
On 01 Oct 1996, brol...@altheim.win-uk.net (Brian R. Oldham) wrote ...>> >Condor actually comes in several variations. <snip>
>> Umm! I don't know about several variations. I know only one 'Condor'.
>> I've tried it and I didn't like it. Too heavily perfumed.
>
Condor Mild, Condor Black, and Condar Bar. All are reported to be full
strength, except the Mild which is medium. The Original comes as Long Cut
or Ready-Rubbed, Black is a twist that comes in three different
thicknesses, and Bar comes as (not surprisingly) a bar. I seem to vaguely
remember some packages of Condor that indicated an aromatic fruit flavor,
but I tended not to pay a lot of attention to packages of Condor and may
very well be mistaken about that.
Christopher Wilkins
I refer to the article posted by Micheal Gillman re Condor Tobacco.
I commend him on his attempt at a review of this long standing favourite of mine, he describes
the packet almost perfectly. However I can't say that I am of the same opinion regarding the
tobacco itself.....
I find the aroma of the unlit tobacco doesn't bear any resemblance to cherry... wild or
otherwise, If it had smelt anything like that I would never touch it. It appears to me
to have a slightly spicy smell, something akin to the smell of good leather (this does not
describe it adequately in anyway. To me the smell is not unpleasant.
I agree that it packs well, lights easily, but I have never experienced a burnt sensation on
lighting it, and I am surprised that Mike found this to happen... perhaps his sample was too
moist? As to the taste being of burned rubber? I'm not aware that the majority of English pipe
smokers have a preference for smoking old tyres... It certainly does not taste that way to me,
and therefore I am confused as to where Mikes description comes from....
The taste is Unique, but then so is the taste of many Scotch Whiskies, and if asked to describe
it I would be hard put to come up with an adequate description, but I don't smoke rubber - or
other strange substances either.
I certainly would not recommend it to anyone used to smoking the milder kind of tobacco that
I have received from freinds in the states, it just is so different, but if you like a strong-
and I do mean strong -tobacco, then this may be to your taste.
I would also agree that it's taste is singular but what do you want? A single Malt with a
distinctive and unique taste, or a cocktail? You pays yer money and you makes yer choice.
Like I said, its not for some, but then I would not condemn any other tobacco out of hand,
because I know that my taste is not everyones. As for giving it to your enemies....If my enemies
should care to send me a small quantity of Condor, I should be inclined to deem them freinds!
The same would apply to anyone who cares to send me a small quantity of Single malt Whisky that
they have found not to their taste...( Lagavulin, Tallisker, Laphroaig etc.... :-) )
Address deliberatley withheld because of the crippling dues on imports of fine goods into
England!
Kevin Cook
well mike, your review of Condor isn't very ambiguous. It is definitely a
high nicotine tobacco and I can understand how its aroma is an either
love it or hate it situation.... I remmeber you despise Erinmore as well,
so how could you possibly enjoy Condor? It's interesting to me though
when someone doesn't like a tobacco, the ysay it tastes/smells like
burning rubber. I"ve tried many blends I don't like, but have yet to find
one that tastes like burning rubber myself.
For me the most ironic thing is that I always find I have a somewhat
sensitive tongue, but I don't find Condor to be a harsh smoke. What I
find harsher are the McClelland blends that get so many rave reviews. I
enjoy their tastes but just don't find tongue bite to be pleasant...
obviously you don't either, since that was something that got to you about
Condor.
DIfferent strokes for different folks.
Kevin
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Kevin Cook,
Computer animator, Cincinnati/Montreal
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Kevin Cook
Brian R. Oldham (brol...@altheim.win-uk.net) wrote:
:
:
: Umm! I don't know about several variations. I know only one 'Condor'.
: I've tried it and I didn't like it. Too heavily perfumed.
: ---
: Brian Oldham
: Nottingham UK
ah, well let`s see.... there's Condor Original (in flake form), Concdor
Ready-Rubbed, Condor LIght, and I believe it also comes in a bar form...
But if you don't like it, you probably don't like it...
Robert Fischer
I just got back from a month long business trip in Liverpool England.
While I was there I had to stock up on some tobak, and found Condor
mild. It wasn't that bad IMHO. I also tried Craven, which I didn't
like as much. As I couldn't find a smoke shop, my selection was
limited to the availability of the local Tesco.
Never tried the original, but the mild wasn't too bad
Al Baldwin
Kevin Cook wrote:
>ah, well let`s see.... there's Condor Original (in flake form), Concdor
> Ready-Rubbed, Condor LIght, and I believe it also comes in a bar form...
>
> But if you don't like it, you probably don't like it...
>
> --
> Life is a test
>
> Kevin Cook,
> Computer animator, Cincinnati/Montreal
> <http://www.cam.org/~ghislai> <ghi...@cam.org>
Also let us not forget Condor Black which is a twist tobacco which comes
in 3 thicknesses.
Condor Bar is also available. Both of the above are black tobaccos and
are full bodied.
Mark Shelor
bigc...@innotts.co.uk (Christopher Wilkins) wrote:
>I refer to the article posted by Micheal Gillman re Condor Tobacco.
>
>otherwise, If it had smelt anything like that I would never touch it. It appears to me
>to have a slightly spicy smell, something akin to the smell of good leather (this does not
>describe it adequately in anyway. To me the smell is not unpleasant.
>
>smokers have a preference for smoking old tyres... It certainly does not taste that way to me,
>and therefore I am confused as to where Mikes description comes from....
Many thanks, Christopher, for coming to the bold defense of Condor! Due to the lack of Condor
in the United States, many of us have searched long and hard to find a pipe tobacco as
distinctive, rich, strong, and cool smoking as this excellent blend. However, the search has
been in vain. There's nothing quite like Condor, even though St. Bruno and Walnut Flake are
both quite good.
Perhaps it's the strength of Condor that so many folks have a problem with. I smoke very little
(1-2 bowls a day), so I tend to like a nice, full, memorable bowl whenever I light up. Many of
tobaccos here in the States have a nice flavor and aroma, but don't deliver much punch. I think
that's why I've become an Anglophile when it comes to pipe tobacco: many of the British blends
are very satisfying, and don't shy away from imparting a good measure of strength.
A lot of folks here in the States complain about Condor's aroma, both in the pouch and when it's
burning. They say it leaves a persistent and unpleasant residue of flavor in their pipes.
Well, I pride myself on having a pipe that is reserved entirely for Condor. The cake of this
pipe delivers such a rich flavor and aroma that it makes me salivate just thinking about it.
Perhaps Condor is an "acquired" taste, appealing more to the experienced smoker. Few people
start out liking the rich taste of Scotch, Guiness Stout, or Condor for that matter. After
their taste buds gain some experience, however, they often change their tune.
Mark
Chet Gottfried
Christopher Wilkins wrote:
> [cuts]
> Like I said, its not for some, but then I would not condemn any other tobacco out of hand,
> because I know that my taste is not everyones. As for giving it to your enemies....If my enemies
> should care to send me a small quantity of Condor, I should be inclined to deem them freinds!
> The same would apply to anyone who cares to send me a small quantity of Single malt Whisky that
> they have found not to their taste...( Lagavulin, Tallisker, Laphroaig etc.... :-) )
An excellent post! If I had tried to do anything similar, I wouldn't've
been able to avoid satire in comparison with other tobaccos.
--Chet
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Irwin Friedman
mgillman*@halcyon.com (Michael Gillman) wrote:
<LARGE SNIP>
>BTW, I did not give the Condor to an enemy, but to a friend who
>enjoyed it. So personal tastes may vary. I would encourage those who
>are looking for new tobaccos to experiment and try many different
>blends. If you pay attention to reviews, I would suggest that you try
>the tobaccos reviewed and after awhile you will get to know the
>reviewers tastes and how they reflect yours. You may then decide how
>to properly use reviews.
>
<SNIP>
>Mike
>
>For when men come together and join in harmony, to smoke the pipe, we celebrate the joys of life.
So much for my plan to bring copious quantities of Condor on my next trip
to Seattle :-).
Irwin
John C. Loring
Just remember the American conception of the "English" tobacco is
somewhat limited - here is how >> Erinmore Flake << was reviewed
recently in the Dutch "Pipe" magazine:
"The taste is typically British" (a Dutch tobacconist)
"It is a traditional British tobacco" (Norfolk, England Pipe Club
member)
"In my opionion, it is one of the best pipe tobaccos" (Spanish pipe
smoker).