My Dad died with 12 and from what I see on ebay that seems to be
typical sized collection. I would imagine folks on this newsgroup
would be rather hypertypical smoker/collectors and carry a bit more.
Be honest. This results of this research will not leave the newsgroup.
<g>
Ed
> Everyone has heard the rationale about having a pipe for each day of the
> week for rotation. But, what is the right number of total heads in your
> herd? I say 50 as I currently have 40 and this gives me some wiggle room.
I have a simple formula, that, alas, always seems to work for me. Are you
ready for a little math?
n = n + 1
Of course, this is only a first approximation. In practicality, some
additional parameters are required, eg. the next pipe must be available,
and I must have the commensurate means, coincident with the pipe's
availability, to acquire it. But, outwardly, the first approximation
always holds, especially if examined over a sufficiently long time
interval.
There are times when n is actually decreased through sales or trades. In
the case of sales, the money goes toward new pipes, so as to prevent
extinction of the collection. In trades, often I end up trading more for
fewer, but the number of pipes I receive is still always a positive
integer, so the result, over time, is ultimately an upward trend.
I realize this isn't really an answer to the question you asked, but it's
as close as I can get. Reason, rational behaviour and pipe collecting
parted company long ago for me. I don't NEED nearly as many pipes as I
have, but there will always be another that I need...
It's a disease. Some have named it PAD (Pipe Acquisition Syndrome). I
suspect this is more true than not, since syndromes are rarely curable...
Cheers,
Greg
--
Gregory Pease
Principal Tobacco Alchemist
G. L. Pease Tobaccos, Intl.
http://www.glpease.com
Martin said a very wise thing (he has said many wise things, but that
is beside the point). He said that if you have about 100 hundred
pipes then you don't spend too much time deciding which one to smoke.
However, by the time you get to around fifty, where you are now, as
Greg points out the disease has a 7 to 1 chance of becoming chronic.
Fifty is just the platform from which you will dive into insanity.
We will visit your post next year.
Ferdoe
"Their dichotomy looks an awful lot like a paradox"
Please remove numbers to respond by email
Ed,
I'd have to say, always 1 more than I have ;0)
Smoke all you want, they'll grow more baccy.
Lobby
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1 more
T
"My guitar wants to kill your mama"-Frank Zappa
And I like that way!!!
:)
FatMax
Dear Ed,
Funny that you should ask this question today. In college, I had my
first pipe, a drug store Dr. Grabow billiard that I had to muster the
courage to buy. It is long since gone somewhere? When I began to get
a little more serious, I bought a good Savenelli "Academia" second
from a local shop. Then a Petersen, cause I am part Irish, then
another Petersen. I had to find a "used" rack from a second hand store
for my little "collection". Now, a couple of scowls from the wife, who
banishes the pipes to the garage workbench area. Ok, I only smoke a
couple of bowls per week but I really enjoy them. Then I bought a
reproduction 1860's period style pipe for civil war reenacting from
Peter Evans, great pipe. Then I began to appreciate the art of "the
pipe", how each one had a different feel and weight and personality of
its own. I love large bents. I started to look around on ebay
(dangerous place) and found a great looking Comoy bent, a great pipe.
Then I bought a Boswell and loved it. Then I bought another
Boswell..........pretty soon I had to buy another little rack for my
pipes, then another larger rack...Anyway, last night I could not find
one of my favorite Petersons (314 with a military bit)it must be in a
coat pocket or the car or somewhere? Anyway, I did a very dangerous
thing. I started to "count" my pipes and make a list. I was doing
this without looking at them, just from memory. I got to 16 before I
headed to bed, then I thought on two more as I drifted off. I think
today, I'll have to double check my count against the racks and see
what I have forgotten. I remembers reading somewhere that if you have
one pipe, you are a "pipe smoker", if you have two pipes, you are a
"collector". So I guess that I fall in that category only due to
numbers. As you can figure, I have a rather slow rotation. But I have
lots of "friends" to choose from.
E. Spear
>Everyone has heard the rationale about having a pipe for each day of
>the week for rotation. But, what is the right number of total heads in
>your herd? I say 50 as I currently have 40 and this gives me some
>wiggle room.
Like most, I'd have to agree with Greg.
I'm no mathematician, but I can certainly understand n=n+1
Why limit yourself with a fixed number?
Cheryl
> 72 1/2
> MT
I've got two of those 1/2 pipes...
--
Jeff Folloder
Please visit Jeff's Ashtray:
http://www.folloder.com/jeffsashtray/
Premise:
1. I smoke pressed natural VA tobaccos most of the time.
2. I smoke Latakia mixtures occasionally.
3. I smoke pressed slightly flavored VA tobaccos rarely.
4. I smoke flavored tobacco quite rarely.
Hence:
1.......... 24 pipes (3 per day, for a week, for 50g of tobacco, plus 3
"free agents")
2.......... 12 pipes (for the occasional break from no. 1)
3.......... 6 pipes
4.......... 4 pipes
_____________
46
+ 4 *really* free agents.
That makes the 50 pieces. Now, will I ever manage to bring my collection
down to that number, let alone keep it there? Too late for that!
--
Tarek
PS: if you hit reply, you'll never reach me ;-) Just check the spelling of
my name before the "@".
--@--
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~ http://www.theitalianpipe.com/
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We've 60 some pipes now.I say we because my wife smokes them, too.She
only wants to smoke certain ones though,they have to be "pretty",ugh.I'm
happy with sixty pipes,it seems like some hardly get smoked at all.When I
fire up one of those, hardly smoked at all pipes,it's like renewing an
old friendship.
buck
. Now, a couple of scowls from the wife, who
>banishes the pipes to the garage workbench area.
Heres what ya do, say honey if you banish me to the garage I will
start power drinking and putting up playboy centerfolds all over my
garage, and my next hobby will be covering my entire body with tattoos
of skulls...see if that works
I do not smoke latakia cause my wife hates it and after a few years of
smoking it, I don't really like it much anymore, it does not lets say
have the aroma of baking cookies.
I smoke between 3 and 6 pipes in an evening. Some days I get lazy and
just smoke the ones from the day before. So- within 10 days I have
rotated through my entire collection of 2 racks: a 24 and a 36. I
constantly buy and sell a few on eBay. But the average maintained is
about 50 in the rotation.
-bw
;-)
--
Tarek
PS: if you hit reply, you'll never reach me ;-) Just check the spelling of
my name before the "@".
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"Bill Withers" <bwit...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:a8f54834.03111...@posting.google.com...
North American Society of Pipe Collectors (NASPC) slogan: "If you have
one pipe, you're a pipe smoker. If you have two pipes, you're a
collector."
Buddy
That's pretty much it; I agree with Ed and especially with Greg.
My collection has grown to over 225...what the hell: it's a hobyy,
passion,addiction...whatever you want to call it. It is also fun.
(REAL bad case of PAD)
Remember the two axioms that all pipe collectors live by:
Q: How many pipes do you have?
A: One more than I need.
Q: How many pipes do you need?
A: One more than I have.
The other is:
Don't need it, can't afford it, might as well buy it.
Dave
It is truly amazing how after 39 years on this planet, I can so easily
convince myself of anything.
Christopher
"E. Spear" <tstar...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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...I think about 60 pipes would keep me happy... ...riiiiight...
John
==========================
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Handcrafted Pipes:
http://www.pipe-works.net/
==========================
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In article <faa467f1.03111...@posting.google.com>, ela...@cox.net
>I do not smoke latakia cause my wife hates it and after a few years of
>smoking it, I don't really like it much anymore, it does not lets say
>have the aroma of baking cookies.
That, my friend, depends upon your cookie recipe. <evil grin>
Reg'ds,
Terry "4 bowls/day, 7 days/week plus 7 floaters = 35 pipes" Freeman
--
If it takes just 65000 Californian signatures to bring about
a revote on a just-elected government what, other than
resignation and apathy, stops smokers to reclaim their
rights in an open society?
- MWR
> Currently, I have 17 that I smoke in the evening or anytime I'm not in the
> shop. I'd like to have more representation from other makers... say another
> 25-30 pipes... especially another Talbert Poker... in particular - a white
> stemmed Talbert currently sitting in Jeff Folloder's rack.
Heh, heh... That's cool. I like that pipe a lot. Guess I'll have to
fit it into this week's rotation! Thanks!
"Tarek Manadily" <te...@theitalianpipe.com> wrote in message
news:3fb24c12$1...@corp.newsgroups.com...
I have about 50 pipes currently...down from around 60. But I tend to
smoke about half of them on a regular basis. As I get a new pipe
(maybe one or two a year) I tend to move one of the regulars out of
rotation.
Michael
The right number of pipes is always, just one more.
SCOTTY
Marc
"Adguru" <ela...@cox.net> wrote in message
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<geek style="mode:java">
public Pipe PipesNeeded(
Pipe pipeCollection[],
Pipe pipeIWant,
float cashAvailable){
private boolean needToAcquire = false;
for( i = 0; i <= pipeCollection.length; i++){
if( !pipeCollection[i].keeper() ){
needToAcquire = true;
}
}
if( needToAcquire && acquire(pipeIWant,cashAvailable); ){
return new Pipe();
}else{
return null;
}
private boolean acquire(Pipe pipeW, float cashA){
if( pipeW.value() < cashA){
return true;
}else{
return false;
}
}
}
</geek>
(m2)
"Rob Novak" <rob....@NOcomSPAMcast.net> wrote in message
news:74q4rvkl2tpflomoj...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 0:15:44 -0800, G. L. Pease <g...@glpease.com>
> wrote:
>
> >n = n + 1
>
> <geek style="mode: perl;">
>
> $desired_pipes = $current_pipes++ ;
>
> </geek>
> --
> Rob on the Web: http://rob.rnovak.net
> Electronic Music: http://www.ugotawanit.com
OK, let me try to summarize this "research." There appears to be
several schools of thought:
The Sansabelt School - This school sets their pipe limit at "What I
have now + the next pipe I wish to acquire." This is basically the
idea behind Sansabelt pants, you have good intentions, but you know
that waistline is headed irrevocably in one direction. I suppose an
argument could be made that the Sansabelt School using their +1
methodology places no limits on their collection, but this argument
won't be made by me because I have carefully reviewed their case as
presented, and understand the background math. Interestingly, I find a
correlation between the Sansabelt School of Pipe Collecting and the
Big Bang Theory. The universe is ever expanding and it is only
reasonable to assume that our pipe collections would be following
suit.
The Goebel, Escher, Bach School – This group believes while there may
not be a numerical underpinning to the universe, there certainly
exists a numerical basis for the perfect amount of pipes but, they are
divided on the perfect mathematical expression to create this elusive
number.
The We'll Know When We Get There School- This school builds on the
mantra we all heard from our fathers when riding in the back seat of
the 56 Olds, the answer to "Where are we going?" is of course, "You'll
know when we get there." Asking this group for a stop number really
isn't fair, because they simply haven't stopped yet. Once they stop, I
feel sure that they will be forthcoming.
The Fence Builder School- like a fence builder in the free-range days
of the West, these folks cannot allow their pipe collection to expand
in pockets and drawers scattered around the house (free range). . Like
a mother hen, these people need to see all their pipes in one location
so that they can "keep track" of their chicks. The unfortunate souls
in this group, and I count myself in this number, have a finite limit
on how many pipes they can maintain and this sets the limit to their
collection. At a certain point their collection becomes unwieldy and
their size limit presents itself.
This is all that I can see at this point but, I am sure other schools
will surface. I find myself firmly entrenched in the Fence Builder
School but, with definite leanings toward the Sansabelt School.
Although I do understand and appreciate the logic and thought behind
every school.
Regards,
Ed
Thanks for asking this question, Ed. I have been giving this some
thought lately. A couple of weeks ago I read here that Neil Bell only
had 15-20 pipes after 50 years of pipe smoking. I counted my pipes
and found that I had over 30 pipes after only 6 years of pipe smoking.
What did he know that I didn't?
I emailed Neil and he explained that at 4-6 bowls per day, 20 pipes
keeps his rotation dry and smoking great. I think there is a lot of
wisdom in that idea. I think 3 to 7 day's rest is fine if you're a VA
or English smoker. If you smoke aromatics, you might need more time.
I also smoke about 3-5 bowls a day and I plan to keep my rotation
between 30 and 40 pipes. This way I give my pipes about a week's rest
and I still feel like I'm not neglecting any of them. I really love
all the pipes I currently own and I want to smoke them all regularly.
I want to enjoy each and every bowl I smoke, so I need a well rested,
carefully selected, and well broken in pipe.
I will Google this thread in a couple of years and see if my thought
have changed.
Best,
Steven, breaking in my new Cavicchi with some Bayou Morning ;-). BTW,
I've purchased 2 pipes in the last 30 days.
> On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 23:10:59 -0800, Adguru wrote
> (in message <faa467f1.03111...@posting.google.com>):
>
>
>>Everyone has heard the rationale about having a pipe for each day of the
>>week for rotation. But, what is the right number of total heads in your
>>herd? I say 50 as I currently have 40 and this gives me some wiggle room.
>
>
> I have a simple formula, that, alas, always seems to work for me. Are you
> ready for a little math?
>
> n = n + 1
>
Actually, and more formally (iirc - it's been a long time):
1+2+3+...n = n(n-1)/2 ~ n^2/2
IOW - if you now have n pipes, you will need n^2 in your lifetime... :)
--
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Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com
PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/
MWR
"Tarek Manadily" :
Hi Ed, everybody
Exellent analysis,
I'd have to say that right now I'm closest to the Sansabelt school of
thought, since I'm a beginner pipe smoker and only have few pipes to choose
from. So I'm always looking for the next one, not really focused on any
special attribute in a pipe, but aquiring more, one pipe at a time.
During my six months of learning and enjoying pipes and tobaccos I feel that
I have merely scraped the crust of the enticing world of pipes.
Thanks to the web, I confess, I've been quillty of indulging myself in pipe
porn, watching all those wonderful pipes in sites of artisans, pipe
etailers, eBay and so on.
So I guess I'm still in Pre school, looking forward, and not knowing what
kind of pipes lie ahead for me. A lot of wonderful ones - and pipster
friends too, I hope!
--
Jari T in Helsinki,
Get a pipewallpaper: http://koti.welho.com/jtiaine3/pipes.html
>And what is the sound of one hand clapping? At my peak, I had 147. I have
>been thinning a bit, I'm now down to 116. I just rationalized buying
>another 24-pipe rack from Mike Hagley, concluding that if I had 3 24-pipe
>racks, one four piper, and one three piper (which I do), then I would sell
>anything that wouldn't fit. So, 79. Of course, cobs don't really count, my
>gourd calabash won't fit in the rack, and then there are those
>work-around-the-yard pipes that I wouldn't want to display. So maybe 85?
>Then again, 92 would allow me to smoke each pipe four times per year if I
>smoked everyday...
>
>It is truly amazing how after 39 years on this planet, I can so easily
>convince myself of anything.
>
>Christopher
Christopher I keep it totally simple I live in complete
denial...problem solved
"inquisitor" <thre...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:<WKvsb.243866$0v4.17...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
Ed Duncan
Batavia, NY
*****************
"John Hamilton McGrath" <ja...@telus.net> wrote in message news:<ebwsb.28273$Ws6.13863@edtnps84>...
G. L. Pease <g...@glpease.com> wrote in message
n = n + 1
> I realize this isn't really an answer to the question you asked, but it's
> as close as I can get. Reason, rational behaviour and pipe collecting
> parted company long ago for me. I don't NEED nearly as many pipes as I
> have, but there will always be another that I need...
Ferdoe <ferd...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> However, by the time you get to around fifty, where you are now, as
> Greg points out the disease has a 7 to 1 chance of becoming chronic.
> Fifty is just the platform from which you will dive into insanity.
> We will visit your post next year.
sirf...@hotmail.com (Dave) wrote in message news:<3d86df7e.03111...@posting.google.com>...
tstar...@hotmail.com (E. Spear) wrote in message >
buck12ga <buck...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> We've 60 some pipes now.I say we because my wife smokes them, too.She
> only wants to smoke certain ones though,they have to be "pretty",ugh.I'm
> happy with sixty pipes,it seems like some hardly get smoked at all.When I
> fire up one of those, hardly smoked at all pipes,it's like renewing an
> old friendship.
>
> buck
"Tarek Manadily" <te...@theitalianpipe.com> wrote in message news:<3fb24c12$1...@corp.newsgroups.com>...
> Considering that I have clear-cut preferences for pipe shapes and material,
> and also for tobaccos, and assuming I buy pipes only for smoking purposes, I
> would say 50 pipes would be a good number. Let me explain further.
>
bwit...@mindspring.com (Bill Withers) wrote in message news:<a8f54834.03111...@posting.google.com>...
> ela...@cox.net (Adguru) wrote in message news:<faa467f1.03111...@posting.google.com>...
> > Everyone has heard the rationale about having a pipe for each day of
> > the week for rotation. But, what is the right number of total heads in
> > your herd? I say 50 as I currently have 40 and this gives me some
> > wiggle room.
> <snip>
> _______
> Ed- I used to think I should have at least 100 pipes. But I found that
> I didn't really know my pipes very well with that number. I'm down to
> around 50 and find it much more enjoyable.
>
> I smoke between 3 and 6 pipes in an evening. Some days I get lazy and
> just smoke the ones from the day before. So- within 10 days I have
> rotated through my entire collection of 2 racks: a 24 and a 36. I
> constantly buy and sell a few on eBay. But the average maintained is
> about 50 in the rotation.
>
> -bw
"Marc Romero" <mdro...@vcitynet.com> wrote in message news:<boue28$1j83q5$1...@ID-159335.news.uni-berlin.de>...
Do you know my ex-wife?
T
"When we talk about artistic freedom in this country
We sometime lose sight of the fact that freedom is
often dependent on adequate financing.
"-Frank Zappa
buck
In article <faa467f1.03111...@posting.google.com>,
ela...@cox.net says...
> LMAO! Classic post,dude. The appropriate person should see that it's
> preserved. Ian! :)
That was pretty good. I set it aside in case the page ever comes
back.
Uh, no. About 30 are LeNuvole pipes. <g> -bw
In article <3fb262d8$1...@corp.newsgroups.com>, "Tarek Manadily"
<te...@theitalianpipe.com> wrote:
> 50, Bill?! What, 49 of those are Le Nuvole?
>
> ;-)
>
> --
> Tarek
Laurence
"DrBlues" <Palatk...@aol.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:fp34rvkkjmd4u444i...@4ax.com...
> On 11 Nov 2003 23:10:59 -0800, ela...@cox.net (Adguru) wrote:
>
> >Everyone has heard the rationale about having a pipe for each day of
> >the week for rotation. But, what is the right number of total heads in
> >your herd? I say 50 as I currently have 40 and this gives me some
> >wiggle room.
> >
> >My Dad died with 12 and from what I see on ebay that seems to be
> >typical sized collection. I would imagine folks on this newsgroup
> >would be rather hypertypical smoker/collectors and carry a bit more.
> >
> >Be honest. This results of this research will not leave the newsgroup.
> ><g>
> >
> >Ed
>
> 1 more
Sheeze, I have two on hold right now at a local shop (Dunhill, Ferndown) and
am looking at two Cavicchi's online as we speak.
Bottom line: I close a sale, I get a pipe. Pretty simple.
--
Rick
Smoke a pipe as long as you control when it gets smoked. When the pipe
calls out to you more than you call out to it, step away for a while. This
applies to all things. Live your life, don't live for the things in it.
Enjoy,
Tim W.
>Hi Christopher,
>Sounds resonable to me. And I agree on the cobs. Corn cobs are to
>pipes as a Mercedes Key Ring is to a Mercedes.
>Ed
Then I've been driving the key ring all over my garden for years....
I displayed a big handfull of garden cobs, stem down, in a nice fat vase
for years and grabbed them as I needed them. Actually looked fairly nice
on the shelf - like a corn arrangement... <g>
Cheryl
>Great responses guys. I really enjoyed reading every one. Woven into
>each response was the thing that I like most about this group, we all
>seem to be very individualistic, very decisive, and at the same time,
>no one takes themselves too seriously. I find that combination
>sublime. I wish I would find it more in the workplace.
>
>OK, let me try to summarize this "research." There appears to be
>several schools of thought:
>
Great classic post, Ed.
Guess I'm in the "I'll know when I get there" school - that theory seems
to run my whole life at the moment, but I wouldn't mind refining things a
bit...
Cheryl