Dissapointed with Mac Baren Vanilla Cream...
nimbuscrenel
pipe smoking or pipe tobacco. I am new to pipery and have aquired a
few estate pipes and a cob, and I've mostly been smoking drug store
aromatics like the Captain Blacks and a fairly dreadful Prince Albert
cherry abomination. I decided it was time to try a "real" aromatic and
after reading reviews and posts in this group I headed off to a local
tobacconist. I wanted to get some Blue Note, but alas, there was none
to be found, so I purchased a tin of Mac Baren Vanilla Cream Loose
Cut. I eagerly packed some into a Savinielli Roma bent pot and puffed
away. I must say that I was rather disappointed. The vanilla
flavouring wasn't very pronounced and there was some sort of tang or
bite that was almost citrusy. Am I doing something wrong here? Do I
need to clean my pipe? Is Captain Black White better than Mac Baren
Vanilla Cream? Surely not...
KLC Lewis
"nimbuscrenel" <nimbus...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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MacBaren Vanilla Cream is not "as" aromatic as CBW, in my opinion, but it is
still aromatic. Don't pack it too tightly, and smoke it slow. It will bite
if you're not gentle with it.
Karin
Ian
> Is Captain Black White better than Mac Baren
> Vanilla Cream? Surely not...
The only time I ever smoked Captain Black was on the final few blocks of
a trip I took with Buddy Springman to the 2002 Chicago Pipe Show. It
was right as we were reaching Pheasant Run. It was the worst crap I have
ever tasted. It was as if the vanilla was actually just a chemical meant
to taste like vanilla. As I later found out, it's true. Something called
an ester? Something like that.
The problem with aromatics is that some people like them, and some
people just can't take them. You might be one of the people who needs a
plain tobacco blend. There is no emphasis on the word "plain", really,
because using Latakia, Perique, burley, Virginia and Cavendish, there
are thousands of blends to come up with, and each tastes different. So
it's a good thing. :-)
Ian
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David
Keep trying. WIth more than 798.89 blends on the market, some of which
are even considered good non aromatic blends, you may be able to find
one you like. Then again, perhaps not. <shrug>
nimbuscrenel
different pipe and the results were pretty much the same- tangy. Do
these blends ever get better with age, or after airing out a bit?
Bill Otten
recommend "Sweet Vanilla" by Edward's Tobacco. I've reviewed it
on tobaccoreviews.com and others have also. The name is a misnomer,
it is not a goopy sweet concoction. Delicious, great vanilla taste, with
an awesome room note. Edward's in Tampa I am certain has it...I was
there today.
bill
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Freddy 'Flea' Lea
if you haven't already .. leave the top off of it for a while and let
it dry out ... then try once more ... remember pack real loose and
gently puff on it ...
i would reccoment some H&H blends ... like egg nogg or grandma's
kitchen ... Hearth and Home .. by Russ ...
drroc...@aol.com
change of pace. For me the keys to enjoyment of Vanilla Cream are
twofold: let it dry out & go slowly.
The other aromatics you mentioned - Captain Black & PA Cherry - are I
believe burley-based while Vanilla Cream is Virginia-based. Perhaps
it's the VA's you don't appreciate.
Either way, keep experimenting & smoke what you like.
Glen
nimbuscrenel
total newbie? ;-)
NickCNC
won't be disappointed. I should add to make sure it's Dan's Blue Note,
tinned, from Germany. From what I understand there is a Blue Note
available from another company - haven't tried it so I can't vouch one
way or another.
Maybe your tobacco shop will order it for you - if not go to
iwanreis.com and look under Dan Pipe Tobacco.
Nick C.
BBQ n BLUES
wonderful blend ;) As others have said: It'll bite due to the VA but
the room note is extraordinary !!!
BTW, I'm a Captain Black White smoker as my everyday smoke...
Also the 'other' Blue Note is an Altadis blend... Nothing like Dan's !
BUT, you gotta love Latakia to like "Blue Note"..
Bland Allison
I'm wondering where the OP is from. He needs a pipe shop with a wider
selection so he can stick his nose (and drag his pipe) into a wider range
of tobaccos.
I'm a flake smoker mostly, but I've had a flirtation with Vanilla. I can
certainly understand someone finding VC to be a bit boring and lightly
flavored. Perhaps, while we're talking Dan Tobacco, he might like Sweet
Vanilla Honeydew. That would at least confirm whether it's vanilla he's
looking for, or something else.
Actually, I've got at least an ounce of it here that I've been using as a
condiment on some flake. nimbuscrenel, shoot me an email at swiper DOT
fox AT gmail DOT com and I'll send it along to you.
--
BA
"Qui hic mixerit aut cacarit, habeat deos superos et inferos iratos."
Juan in Andalucía
If you want a vanilla taste tobacco, try Borkum Riff Admiral's Flake
Vanilla. No, I'm not pulling your leg; this Borkum Riff flake is not
like any other BR blend.
I think this is in fact a MacBaren blend: the tin, the wrapper and -
most important- the house smell and taste say MacBaren clear and loud.
Nevertheless, I find the vanilla taste is too pronounced when fresh
open, so let it air out a bit. I've smoked half a tin in 6 months (in
cobs), and now the taste is much better than when I had my first bowl.
There's also a cherry version, but I haven't tried it.
One more thing: have you considered non-aromatic blends? I only smoke
aromatics as a change of pace, but YMMV, of course.
Juan in Andalucía
nimbuscrenel
things about it. I have heard bad things about the Captain as well,
but I found it to be decent. I still haven't tried a non-aromatic (or
should i say regular?) tobacco yet, but think I may enjoy that. Any
recommendations for a first non-aromatic blend?
Ian
> Any recommendations for a first non-aromatic blend?
Mac Baren Navy Flake. Smokes cool, no surprises, and tastes pretty good.
The tin is also nice, because it's so small, you can carry it in your
pocket.
Hope you're well,
Ian
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NickCNC
become a regular for me. Petersons University Flake isn't half bad
either. I do prefer the way Mac Maren packs their tins with the flakes
horizontal instead of vertical as Petersons does.
Nick C.
Juan in Andalucía
I'd suggest a Virginia/Perique blend. Peter Stockebye Luxury Navy
Flake is a good one, but there're so many to choose from. You can
choose one of each "category": a latakia blend, a virginia, a burley
blend...
Juan in Andalucía
Bland Allison
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I'm tempted to send him along some Flake, but everything I have is sort
of "not for beginners." HOTW, MBVF (aka burnt tongue in a bag) and FVF.
The Stokkabyes are probably the best beginner Flakes: LNF, LTF or LBF.
drroc...@aol.com
Look at the Virginia blends and the Virginia/Perique, Virginia/Burley,
Burley, and Traditional American blends. Click on individual blends
and you'll be linked to tobaccoreviews.com for each blend.
My own recommendations for a 1st non-aromatic blend: Orlik Golden
Sliced, McClelland 5100, or Rattray's Old Gowrie.
Glen
MajorMaduro
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HotW was one of the first tobaccos I smoked - didn't hurt me the least - and
I'm still in love with the stuff. Of course I smoked cigars for a few years
before taking up the pipe, maybe that helped ;)
Kenny
S. Massy
> Check out: http://agingfaq.nocturne.org/touchstones.php
> Look at the Virginia blends and the Virginia/Perique, Virginia/Burley,
> Burley, and Traditional American blends. Click on individual blends
are not such a good idea. Probably burley would be friendlier. Also,
trying out some light aromatics in which one can actually taste the
tobacco is probably a good idea: at least, that's what got me
interested.
Cheers,
S.M.
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schnorrer
your life to drift in the sea of tobacco like a pirate without a home
port. You will engage all ships on the high seas- Men O' War from
Virginia, Latkia, Cyprus, The Balkans, Rhodesia (oops I mean
Zimbabwe), and the dreaded old English in the search of the perfect
tobacco experience. You will win some, lose some, lose some that you
won, and win some that you lost.
I pray for your hyde!
Velvet Elvis
Most of us started with aromatic blends, and I am no exception. I would not
recommend an aromatic to a beginning smoker, simply because they are more
likely to "turn off" a smoker, in my humble opinion. They smoke harsh and
wet and burn the tongue. A straight burley blend, in my opinion, is the
way to go. After ditching the aromatics, my first choice was a
drugstore "burley light". It was a step up but still had some of that
weird chemical harshness. I then had a different "burley light" from a
tobacconist that was all the difference in the world. I regularly smoke
english blends, va blends, and vapers, and I still keep a plain burley
blend on hand. It's all I've smoked today, in fact, and I have a bowl of
it going right now (in my very first cob, no less! ;) ).
That being said, if you want a pleasing aromatic that won't bite hard and
tastes as good as it smells, try Lane's 1Q. It's the top selling tobacco
in the US for a reason...
VE
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pipeman
> Does virginia have a sort of tangy aftertaste? Did I mention I'm a
> total newbie? ;-)
Often but not always. Virginia is the most acidic tobacco and many
can be tangy, fruity or down right sour. I wouldn't assume the
MacBarens is better, and aparrantly not better for you.