OT: Favorite painter?
Ian Rastall
vegetable pizza for breakfast, drinking my favorite pop (Diet Canada
Dry Ginger Ale), and watching my favorite videotapes: Art of the
Western World, which was on PBS in '89.
I started wondering if anyone here had a favorite painter. Mine is Jan
Van Eyck, which is a very "un-hip" choice, but I've always loved his
work. Check this out:
http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/eyck/ghent/
I also have a passion for Christian icon painting, especially
Byzantine. I don't know if there's any known "masters" of that art,
though. I think it was mostly anonymous. There was a great series on
TLC called "Byzantium", that I wish I could get on video.
Anyway, just soakin' in some culture this morning. Take this as you
will. :)
Ian
--
That oughta be like hittin' fungoes
with a corked bat. (Nathaniel Ward)
Bastian Scherbeck
since this is basically my future "job" here are my favorite painters
1) Caravaggio
- he definitely is a very theatrical but still realistic painter
2) Michelangelo
- I have never seen anything like his sixtine chapel
3) Luca Signorelli
gotta see his paintings in the dome of Orvieto
CU, Bastian
Ian Rastall
Have you seen these up close? One of the problems with living in
America is that I don't live in Europe. :) I'm also crazy about Gothic
cathedrals. My very first memory is of being at a service at Salisbury
Cathedral, in England. One of my dreams is to fly to Europe and take a
tour of the cathedrals in England and France.
Newsman
"Ian Rastall" <idra...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Mornin' everyone. I'm having a great morning right now. Eating some
> vegetable pizza for breakfast, drinking my favorite pop (Diet Canada
> Dry Ginger Ale), and watching my favorite videotapes: Art of the
> Western World, which was on PBS in '89.
>
> I started wondering if anyone here had a favorite painter. Mine is Jan
> Van Eyck, which is a very "un-hip" choice, but I've always loved his
Great thread:)
My favorite painters are:
1) Salvador Dali
2) Johannes Vermeer
3) Raphael
Sometimes, Johannes Vermeer is number one...:)
Ian Rastall
wrote:
>My favorite painters are:
>1) Salvador Dali
>
>2) Johannes Vermeer
>
>3) Raphael
>
>Sometimes, Johannes Vermeer is number one...:)
I'd never heard of him, so I took a look:
http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/vermeer/
I was checking out this one picture of a woman pouring milk into a
bowl. He does some really beautiful things with light.
Newsman
> On Sun, 7 Jul 2002 11:32:43 +0200, "Newsman" <mel...@email.hinet.hr>
> wrote:
>
> >My favorite painters are:
> >1) Salvador Dali
> >
> >2) Johannes Vermeer
> >
> >3) Raphael
> >
> >Sometimes, Johannes Vermeer is number one...:)
>
> I'd never heard of him, so I took a look:
>
> http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/vermeer/
>
> I was checking out this one picture of a woman pouring milk into a
> bowl. He does some really beautiful things with light.
>
> Ian
Like it says on this site, he "...created some of the most exquisite
paintings in Western art."
This is great link: http://www.cacr.caltech.edu/~roy/vermeer/
Bastian Scherbeck
> Have you seen these up close? One of the problems with living in
> America is that I don't live in Europe. :) I'm also crazy about Gothic
> cathedrals. My very first memory is of being at a service at Salisbury
> Cathedral, in England. One of my dreams is to fly to Europe and take a
> tour of the cathedrals in England and Fran
Nope. unfortunately not yet. But in about a months Paris will be where I am
going and for sure St. Denis, Notre Dame, St. Chapelle, the Louvre --- all
those will be mine :-)). I have seen some of Caravaggios paintings in
Vienna, never seen Luca Signorellis Freskos though. It is kind of hard to
get the walls out of the dome and send them anywhere else...
Bastian
Ian Rastall
wrote:
>This is great link: http://www.cacr.caltech.edu/~roy/vermeer/
I'm checkin' out that link, and looking at the thumbnails of all the
paintings, and I'm noticing something. With only a few exceptions, he
always kept his light source on the left, usually through a window. Do
you think there's a reason for that? Is it significant in some way,
religious perhaps?
Rev. Melissa Robitille
It's a toss-up, Ian - Ingres or Renoir. I'm an amateur portraitist myself,
so I tend to gravitate towards those whom I feel were the very best at what
I myself like to do.
Rev. Melissa 'Red Rev' Robitille
Micheal Pelt
"Bastian Scherbeck" <noval...@gmx.de> wrote in message
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> Hey Ian,
>
> since this is basically my future "job" here are my favorite painters
>
> 1) Caravaggio
> 2) Michelangelo
Motherwell
> 3) Luca Signorelli
Seurat
Micheal Pelt
Bastian, please visit St.Denis first. It's the very best of them all for
design, engineering, and craftsmanship. Pay special attention to the
windows, not just the beauty of them, but also the order in which they are
placed.
St.Denis is just like so way kewl.
Me.
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Micheal Pelt
> On Sun, 7 Jul 2002 12:55:28 +0200, "Newsman" <mel...@email.hinet.hr>
> wrote:
>
> >This is great link: http://www.cacr.caltech.edu/~roy/vermeer/
>
> I'm checkin' out that link, and looking at the thumbnails of all the
> paintings, and I'm noticing something. With only a few exceptions, he
> always kept his light source on the left, usually through a window. Do
> you think there's a reason for that? Is it significant in some way,
> religious perhaps?
Ian,
He painted almost exclusively in the same room in his apartment. That room
just happened to have the best light.
At least, that's what my art history teacher said.
Ian Rastall
wrote:
>St.Denis is just like so way kewl.
I saw a picture of the interior of St. Denis a few years ago, and was
completely in love from that point on. It's the original gothic
church. It's like the Velvet Underground of churches. :) That's where
I would go first on my tour of cathedrals.
Ian Rastall
wrote:
>He painted almost exclusively in the same room in his apartment. That room
>just happened to have the best light.
>
>At least, that's what my art history teacher said.
I was just thinking that. I figured it was something simple like that.
:)
Ian Rastall
<robi...@together.net> wrote:
>It's a toss-up, Ian - Ingres or Renoir.
Didn't know Ingres, so I looked him up. Very interesting. Here's a
good picture, and all I can say about it is, "Look at all the foxy
chix!":
http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/ingres/turkish-bath.jpg
Bernie
> I started wondering if anyone here had a favorite painter. Mine is Jan
> Van Eyck, which is a very "un-hip" choice, but I've always loved his
> work. Check this out:
>
Van Gogh
Monet
Matisse
Saw an exhibition of a private collection that was about to be auctioned in
the early '80s at the Royal Academy in London. First time I'd seen any Van
Gogh and Monet work in the flesh. It was absolutely stunning. Van Gogh's use
of colour and the textures of his brush strokes on the canvass made me
realise how inadequate reproductions are of 3D media like oil on canvass.
Monet's rendition of the lighting on a plain bowl of fruit was utterly
beautiful. magical. All three of these artists were celebrating their
subjects and allowing us to celebrate with them. They were tremendous
communicators. In fact I think all great artists are great communicators and
there are very few communicators left in the world of "fine art". Today the
great communicators make movies.
Ken Dixon
Ken in Miami
CRodri5569
I really need to educate myself more in this regard. I love going to The St.
Louis Art Museum and I work with art therapists. I'm actually ashamed of my
ignorance on matters of art. My ignorance is such that, at this time, I'd need
to name Moe in a Three Stooges short as my favorite painter
;-)
Charlie
Rev. Melissa Robitille
> good picture, and all I can say about it is, "Look at all the foxy
> chix!":
Ian, Ian, Ian.... *shaking head at you* You had to go looking for the
nekkid people, didn't you? His *portraits* are much better, trust me - the
man captured a likeness quite well, but his treatment of hair and fabric
were stunning.
Rev. Melissa Robitille
> Ken in Miami
Got an altered point of view there, don'tcha Ken... :D *chuckle*
Ken Dixon
Thank you, yes.
I like classical art for it's beauty and technique and as a window to a the
past but there's something about those three...
Ken in Miami
Bastian Scherbeck
story of St. Denis is somewhat complex though, the "Birthbuilding" of
gothic is not really all of the church but only the "go around" after the
choir, which was build in 1140 - 1144. While building that they left the
"longhouse" which was build somewhere around the 800's while Karl the Great
was King. Then after years were gone around 1231 they came back and
finished the "longhouse" reflecting on all that what had happened in
between (Noyon, Chartres, Amiens, Beauvais etc.) The highpoint of the
classic gothic buildings is then the St. Chapelle which cannot be
overestimated. There are hardly any walls left, the whole church consists
of glas.
Just my 5cents - :-))
Bastian
Rev. Melissa Robitille
> I like classical art for it's beauty and technique and as a window to a
the
> past but there's something about those three...
> Ken in Miami
Oh, they were definitely masters of their forms of art... I just got a
giggle out of your particularly liking artists known for twisting reality
more than a little. :D
Thomas Mack
Tom Mack
Mike @ The Piperack
> vegetable pizza for breakfast, drinking my favorite pop (Diet Canada
> Dry Ginger Ale), and watching my favorite videotapes: Art of the
> Western World, which was on PBS in '89.
>
> I started wondering if anyone here had a favorite painter. Mine is Jan
> Van Eyck, which is a very "un-hip" choice, but I've always loved his
> work.
Great thread. I cannot name just one favourite but Andrew Wyeth comes damn
close if I had to pick. His watercolour landscapes are masterful.
Winslow Homer is another favourite, as is Georgia O'Keeffe... as is Max
Parrish.
One of my favourite paintings is from Gustave Caillebotte - (Paris Street,
Rainy Day). I also enjoy Monet, Manet, and Degas. Never got into Van Gogh.
I'm also a fan of Andy Warhol and Roy Lichtenstein but I wouldn't call them
favourites.
Michael
James Kime
Alien Sex Fiend (goth...now it's gone techno/industrial/trancy)...he has never
had any instruction/training in art...but he paints very original
pictures.....can't access the web at the moment w/o a mouse (very hard to do on
this comp)....but check out in a search engine "alien sex fiend", and "artwork"
(etc), to see some original, seriously F-ed up oil paintings. He had his work
in a gallery at some place...Hmmm...
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Ian Rastall
<robi...@together.net> wrote:
>Ian, Ian, Ian.... *shaking head at you* You had to go looking for the
>nekkid people, didn't you?
Well there's no need to get Ingres.
Ian Rastall
<mi...@thepiperack.com> wrote:
>I'm also a fan of Andy Warhol and Roy Lichtenstein but I wouldn't call them
>favourites.
I've got Roy Lichtenstein's "Drowning Girl" on my right arm. About six
inches by six inches. Definitely cooler than the tattoo of Elmo on my
leg. :)
ip...@ptd.net
> Dali, Escher and Picasso.
>
> Ken in Miami
>
>
Tough One!
Edvard Munch. His 'Death in the Sickroom' is haunting
Dali
Boticelli
Tintoretto
Edgar Degas
N.C., Andrew, and Jamie Wyeth
Nizo
Rev. Melissa Robitille
> Ian
*snort* ROFLOL
Micheal Pelt
> On Sun, 7 Jul 2002 10:40:16 -0400, "Rev. Melissa Robitille"
> <robi...@together.net> wrote:
>
> >Ian, Ian, Ian.... *shaking head at you* You had to go looking for the
> >nekkid people, didn't you?
>
> Well there's no need to get Ingres.
After all, he dint say anything about those Titians.
<g>
Micheal Pelt
"Mike @ The Piperack" <mi...@thepiperack.com> wrote in message
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> > Van Eyck, which is a very "un-hip" choice, but I've always loved his
> > work.
>
> Great thread. I cannot name just one favourite but Andrew Wyeth comes
damn
> close if I had to pick. His watercolour landscapes are masterful.
>
> Winslow Homer is another favourite, as is Georgia O'Keeffe... as is Max
> Parrish.
Michael,
With initial choices like that, one wonders why you didn't also include
Hopper. Any particular reason?
Micheal.
Robert DOnnelly
unknowns but I would say Leonardo Da Vinci, you don't get much better
than that. I also like Leroy Neiman*S*
Happy Blends,
Robert
Ian Rastall <idra...@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<n9sfiuc53f6iahh2r...@4ax.com>...
> Mornin' everyone. I'm having a great morning right now. Eating some
> vegetable pizza for breakfast, drinking my favorite pop (Diet Canada
> Dry Ginger Ale), and watching my favorite videotapes: Art of the
> Western World, which was on PBS in '89.
>
> I started wondering if anyone here had a favorite painter. Mine is Jan
> Van Eyck, which is a very "un-hip" choice, but I've always loved his
> work. Check this out:
>
> http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/eyck/ghent/
>
> I also have a passion for Christian icon painting, especially
> Byzantine. I don't know if there's any known "masters" of that art,
> though. I think it was mostly anonymous. There was a great series on
> TLC called "Byzantium", that I wish I could get on video.
>
> Anyway, just soakin' in some culture this morning. Take this as you
> will. :)
>
> Ian
Joe Ahearn
My favorite painter is Helen Frankenthaler, who learned Abstract
Expressionism at the hands of Jackson Pollack, but who then went way
beyond Pollack (amazing how death stops the development the artist) by
doing all sorts of amazing beautiful flowing paintings.
j.
On Sun, 07 Jul 2002 07:46:52 GMT, Ian Rastall
<idra...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Mornin' everyone. I'm having a great morning right now. Eating some
>vegetable pizza for breakfast, drinking my favorite pop (Diet Canada
>Dry Ginger Ale), and watching my favorite videotapes: Art of the
>Western World, which was on PBS in '89.
>
>I started wondering if anyone here had a favorite painter. Mine is Jan
>Van Eyck, which is a very "un-hip" choice, but I've always loved his
>work. Check this out:
>
>http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/eyck/ghent/
>
>I also have a passion for Christian icon painting, especially
>Byzantine. I don't know if there's any known "masters" of that art,
>though. I think it was mostly anonymous. There was a great series on
>TLC called "Byzantium", that I wish I could get on video.
>
>Anyway, just soakin' in some culture this morning. Take this as you
>will. :)
>
>Ian
Joe Ahearn
I agree. There's nothing like seeing the original. Nothing. That's the
terrible thing about great painting. You gotta go to a great museum
and at least in my city, great museums are hard to come by.
Best,
Joe
Terry McGinty
"Mike @ The Piperack" <mi...@thepiperack.com> wrote in message
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comes damn
> close if I had to pick. His watercolour landscapes are masterful.
>
> Winslow Homer is another favourite, as is Georgia O'Keeffe... as is
Max
> Parrish.
>
> One of my favourite paintings is from Gustave Caillebotte - (Paris
Street,
> Rainy Day). I also enjoy Monet, Manet, and Degas. Never got into
Van Gogh.
> Michael
>
Good thread, and interesting to see the varied tastes here, kinda like
tobacco now isn't it:-)
Well Michael, I see we have some similar tastes after all;-) Yes, I
agree, I can't just pick one. To your original picks I would add John
Singer Sargent but might even put him at the top of the list. Some
would even include him as the greatest portraitist of all time, and
many of his watercolours, which he turned to after becoming sick of
portraits, are terrific.
There have been many great American Impressionists that I would put on
my list. I'm afraid not many would know of them but her goes. Frank
W. Benson, Edward Potthast , Childe Hassam, Edmund Tarbell, and John
Twachtman. To view any of these painters go to,
http://www.barewalls.com/index.html
and search American Impressionism
I could mention many artists working today like Nita Engle but then
the list is huge.
Regards, Terry
Bernie
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>
> I agree. There's nothing like seeing the original. Nothing. That's the
> terrible thing about great painting. You gotta go to a great museum
> and at least in my city, great museums are hard to come by.
>
> Best,
> Joe
>
It's a disadvantage in that sense but it does give you a reason to get out
more!
I can visit all kinds of galleries on the web and see all kinds of pictures
(broadband helps) but it is good to know that there is only one original
Mona Lisa for instance, and that I would have to go to the Louvre to see it.
It gives me an additional reason to go to Paris. One day I will do it too.
There is something else too. If we like a movie we can get the video but the
video is not as good as seeing the movie on the big screen. About 4 or 5
years ago there was a release of a new print of "It's a Wonderful Life"
which I do have on video. It's one of my all time favourite films. (Hey we
need that as a new thread soon). It was being shown in a cinema in London
and it was quite close to Christmas. I went with a friend and the house was
packed. I was amazed. It was terrific seeing it on the big screen. When the
film finished the whole house spontaneously applauded. It was the best
cinema experience I've had for many years.
The point I'm struggling to make here is that when we can acquire prints and
videos too easily we also cease to look at them and fully appreciate them.
Or something like that.
Bernie
ip...@ptd.net
Bernie wrote:
>> Saw an exhibition of a private collection that was about to be auctioned in
>> the early '80s at the Royal Academy in London. First time I'd seen any Van
>> Gogh and Monet work in the flesh. It was absolutely stunning. Van Gogh's use
>> of colour and the textures of his brush strokes on the canvass made me
>> realise how inadequate reproductions are of 3D media like oil on canvass.
How right you are Bernie.
Anyone living within in a reasonable drive to St. Petersburg FLA, owes it to
himself/herself to go to the Salvador Dali Museum. An experience that you
will never forget.
You will almost sense that the light is coming from behind the canvas and
shining through. The effect of this gives many of the images a startling
three dimensional appearance.
Up until my visit I had looked at a lot of Dali but I had never truly seen a
Dali.
Nizo
Bernie
> Anyone living within in a reasonable drive to St. Petersburg FLA, owes it
to
> himself/herself to go to the Salvador Dali Museum. An experience that you
> will never forget.
Sheesh. I was in Clearwater for about 4 months back in '98 and didn't go.
ip...@ptd.net
> There have been many great American Impressionists that I would put on
> my list. I'm afraid not many would know of them but her goes. Frank
> W. Benson, Edward Potthast , Childe Hassam, Edmund Tarbell, and John
> Twachtman. To view any of these painters go to,
> http://www.barewalls.com/index.html
> and search American Impressionism
These are some fine choices with my preference being Tarbell. However I
would personally have a rough time putting together a list of American
Impressionists without including Mary Cassatt on each and everyone,
Nizo
Jerry G
(1918-1989) for some reason (near to my heart) that shall remain
unexpressed.
Jerry G.
"Ian Rastall" <idra...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Mornin' everyone. I'm having a great morning right now. Eating some
> vegetable pizza for breakfast, drinking my favorite pop (Diet Canada
> Dry Ginger Ale), and watching my favorite videotapes: Art of the
> Western World, which was on PBS in '89.
>
> I started wondering if anyone here had a favorite painter. Mine is Jan
> Van Eyck, which is a very "un-hip" choice, but I've always loved his
> work. Check this out:
>
Xak
Icon painters. But that's just the tip of the 'berg for me. There's ___
and ___ and ___! :-]
grace christian
<ducking>
Chris
Turned on to Van Gogh in art history class and that year was able to
see an exhibit at the Met in NYC and the pieces were better in person
than I thought they could be. The extreme emotion of his life comes
through so clearly not only in the work but in the technique...esp so
in the wheatfield paintings, my fav's.
Bernie
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> Van Gogh
>
> Turned on to Van Gogh in art history class and that year was able to
> see an exhibit at the Met in NYC and the pieces were better in person
> than I thought they could be. The extreme emotion of his life comes
> through so clearly not only in the work but in the technique...esp so
> in the wheatfield paintings, my fav's.
>
I don't recall the name but there is a wheat field painting with a lark? I
saw that one amongst others and it was truly stunning to see it from across
a big room and also right up close.
Mike @ The Piperack
"Micheal Pelt" <map...@swbell.net> wrote in message news:KM1W8.3135
>
> With initial choices like that, one wonders why you didn't also include
> Hopper. Any particular reason?
I like Hopper well enough and am fond of some of his works. However, I
think he's a touch too gritty for me at times. It's hard to explain, I
suppose, because Wyeth's work can sometimes be gritty too... but it's the
subject matter portrayed I guess. Subject matter is very important to me.
Hopper to me had an uncanny ability to add a moroseness to his work; the
feel of much of his work has something of a quiet desperation to it that I
find a little unsettling. Perhaps it's his use of colour. Perhaps it's his
brush-stroke style. Perhaps it's a combination of factors.
Art is nothing if not subjective, I suppose.
I don't possess the skill to pick apart his work versus another painter.
But what I do know very well is how I *feel* when looking at a painting.
Wyeth awes me with works like "Christina's World", "Flood Plain", "Master
Bedroom", "Around the Corner"... I could go on and on. He's able to convey
a realism to his world that I can relate to - a sense that nature is
objective, sometimes harsh, often beautiful, and man has the ability to make
an indelible impression on that force with a beauty of his own. Wyeth also
makes extensive use of dogs in his paintings. I like dogs. :-)
Max Parrish gives me great joy with his bold, vivid use of colour, his
idealised Edens, and his portrayal of a rugged, beautiful world. His
works - as well as O'keeffe's - just make me happy. I don't feel this joy
when looking at a Hopper painting.
Wish I could make it more sensical but I can't. <g>
Kind regards,
Michael
Terry McGinty
<ip...@ptd.net> wrote in message news:B94F9D3F.2C36A%ip...@ptd.net...
> These are some fine choices with my preference being Tarbell.
However I
> would personally have a rough time putting together a list of
American
> Impressionists without including Mary Cassatt on each and everyone,
>
> Nizo
Ah, a fine choice indeed. Perhaps my bad, since her selection as a
excellent painter should not be overlooked. She is generally
mentioned in the same rarified air as Sargent, and Whistler because of
their common expatriate status.
Terry
James H.
--
James H.
"Each day the world is born anew for him who takes it rightly." -Lowell
"Ian Rastall" <idra...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> I started wondering if anyone here had a favorite painter. Mine is Jan
Micheal Pelt
>
> "Micheal Pelt" <map...@swbell.net> wrote in message news:KM1W8.3135
> >
> > With initial choices like that, one wonders why you didn't also include
> > Hopper. Any particular reason?
>
> I like Hopper well enough and am fond of some of his works. However, I
> think he's a touch too gritty for me at times. It's hard to explain, I
> suppose, because Wyeth's work can sometimes be gritty too... but it's the
> subject matter portrayed I guess. Subject matter is very important to me.
>
> Hopper to me had an uncanny ability to add a moroseness to his work; the
> feel of much of his work has something of a quiet desperation to it that I
> find a little unsettling. Perhaps it's his use of colour. Perhaps it's
his
> brush-stroke style. Perhaps it's a combination of factors.
Quite understandable. Hopper tends to "frame" his subjects in a way as to
heighten a sense of alienation or estrangement. This can be quite
disturbing.
>
> Art is nothing if not subjective, I suppose.
>
> I don't possess the skill to pick apart his work versus another painter.
> But what I do know very well is how I *feel* when looking at a painting.
> Wyeth awes me with works like "Christina's World", "Flood Plain", "Master
> Bedroom", "Around the Corner"... I could go on and on. He's able to
convey
> a realism to his world that I can relate to - a sense that nature is
> objective, sometimes harsh, often beautiful, and man has the ability to
make
> an indelible impression on that force with a beauty of his own. Wyeth
also
> makes extensive use of dogs in his paintings. I like dogs. :-)
Wyeth, on the other hand, tends to frame his subjects so you get a
"something good's just around the corner" kind of way. Even when the people
are alone, the color, lines, and framing have a much warmer sense to them
than does Hopper.
Principally, I asked the question because the two painters are Americans of
similar time periods and fairly similar styles and choice of subject matter.
Their interpretations, however, are quite different.
>
> Max Parrish gives me great joy with his bold, vivid use of colour, his
> idealised Edens, and his portrayal of a rugged, beautiful world. His
> works - as well as O'keeffe's - just make me happy. I don't feel this joy
> when looking at a Hopper painting.
Parrish struck me as being a bit too... garish is too strong a word, but
it's close. I won't get started on Ms.O'Keeffe, as I knew a student of hers
as well as someone <cough cough> "very close" <cough cough> to her through
an ex-wife.
Kind Regards Back Atcha,
Micheal.
Micheal Pelt
Robert Motherwell, fergodsake
Neil Currey
2: Sir Edwin Landseer
3: Edward Burne-Jones
4: William Morris
But I have been told that I have Victorian Tastes anyway . Great thread.
> vegetable pizza for breakfast, drinking my favorite pop (Diet Canada
> Dry Ginger Ale), and watching my favorite videotapes: Art of the
> Western World, which was on PBS in '89.
>
> Van Eyck, which is a very "un-hip" choice, but I've always loved his
> work. Check this out:
>
>
> I also have a passion for Christian icon painting, especially
> Byzantine. I don't know if there's any known "masters" of that art,
> though. I think it was mostly anonymous. There was a great series on
> TLC called "Byzantium", that I wish I could get on video.
>
> Anyway, just soakin' in some culture this morning. Take this as you
> will. :)
>
> Ian
Joshua Rosenblatt
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> Dali, Escher and Picasso.
>
> Ken in Miami
>
I'm with you Ken. Also I like the Impressionists alot (VG especially).
One of my favorite contemporary artists is Mark Ryden:
He's twisted.
Joshua
Joshua Rosenblatt
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>
> terrible thing about great painting. You gotta go to a great museum
> and at least in my city, great museums are hard to come by.
>
> Best,
> Joe
I hear that. Mountaintop PA has no monopoly on museum and gallery art lemme
tell ya.
One of the things I miss most about LA (aside from the big three museums)
are the ltitle galleries with the stuff you'll NEVER see in the Getty. One
of my favorites was La Luz De Jesus in Hollyweird.
Joshua
Stephen B.
by the eclectic interests of pipe smokers. Art is indeed such a
personal experience, but when it works it touches many.
Just to be on topic, how about Magritte's "Ceci N'est Pas Une Pipe";
not actually a favorite of mine... While Velazquez' Los Meninas is the
only painting I have ever stood before and wept. It's that movingly
beautiful! It's got that graced by God perfection about it.
Lots of Impressionists named here, even the more obscure American
painters, who, in my opinion, were not the masters yet that their
European counterparts were...
I think Motherwell should be mentioned only with a listing of all the
New York School who were mature adults when his work was still in it's
adolecents, though he was a prodigous adolecent at that: Kline, Smith,
Reinhardt, Rothko, Dekooning, Polack etc. Motherwell's African Suite
might well have been created by Kline... How about Deibenkorn if we
name 2nd generation Abstract Expressionists? Pop artists; Rivers,
Warhol, Lichtenstein, Rauchenberg, Johns.....
For impact in a figurative style by a contemporary artist, check out
the Polish sculptor Magdalena Abakanowisz' stark and tactile crowds.
I have too many favorites to name, but a sublime topic to
consider...... I wish I were not on my way out the door for a vacation
so that I could play this game with you folks. It is my favorite
topic!!! Maybe it will still be a vital thread in a weeks time... !?!
Thanks all and read you later.
-Stephen B.
Terry McGinty
>
> Robert Motherwell, fergodsake
>
Yeah, whatever.
Chris
thinking of though..the paintings he did shortly before he committed
suicide in 1890. The 'Wheatfield With Crows' piece is one that really
stands out...especially given the fact that he committed suicide in a
wheatfield one evening not too long after he completed the painting.
There is a nice site with a ton of info and images of just about all
of his work at
http://www.vangoghgallery.com/index.html
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Bernie
http://www.vangoghgallery.com/painting/p_0310.htm
Bernie
--
Doc Elder
I can't get enough of fellow pipe-smoker Rene' Magritte.
He makes me laugh, and yet there's something about his
sense of absurdity that lingers on, making me think about
the way there's something that actually sorta' makes sense
about the juxtaposition of images. It can also make for
all kinds of interesting conversations after introducing
friends to our Rene'.
Gotta' put in a word of immense respect for the Big R
Rembrandt, but to tell the truth-- there are any number
of second-tier and supposedly lower Dutch portrait
artists from that era who can stun me with how effectively
they evoke with light and facial expression. I met them
first in college at a museum in San Diego with a decent
collection. Years and years later, a visit to the Rijksmuseum
(sp?) in Amsterdam, provided no end of entertainment
when I deliberately visited the parts of the museum that
weren't crowded by the hordes of the usual touristas.
-Doc
--
"It's only the giving that makes you... what you are.
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Bill Charles
James H. wrote in message ...
>Paul Klee
I agree. Paul Klee.
BC
John de Manuel
> I started wondering if anyone here had a favorite painter. Mine is Jan
> Van Eyck, which is a very "un-hip" choice, but I've always loved his
> work. Check this out:
Mine's Velasquez. Of course I love the Pre-Raphaelites, Beardsley's
Arthurian and Wagnerian works, Norman Rockwell, Escher, Rembrandt, and
most of the impressionists... But Velasquez really strikes a chord with
me.
A couple of months ago on a visit to Montreal I was lucky enough to
visit the Museum of fine art and view the exhibit "Italian Old Masters
from Raphael to Tiepolo: The Collection of the Budapest Museum of Fine
Arts". One of the paintings in particular touched me. It was a young
lady in a pensive moment. I don't remember who painted it, but he
really captured her fine clothes, her mood, and her spirit. It was both
enchanting and soothing.
--
"This is the essence of modern mature thinking.
It's called deferred gratification."
- From BBC's Dawn of Man
Tim Wisner
<idra...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>I started wondering if anyone here had a favorite painter. Mine is Jan
>Van Eyck, which is a very "un-hip" choice, but I've always loved his
>work. Check this out:
>
>http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/eyck/ghent/
>Ian
Well Ian, I would have to say that my favorite painter is
Jacques-Louis David. I like both his neoclassical and Napoleonic era
work. Unlike Van Eyck, David is a very"hip" choice!
http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/david/
Napoleon in his Study hangs in the National Gallery, and a small print
of same in my man cave next to Goya's less than flattering portrait of
the Duke of Wellington and a portrait of Marshal Blucher.
Tim W.
Ian Rastall
<ghab...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>Mine's Velasquez. Of course I love the Pre-Raphaelites, Beardsley's
>Arthurian and Wagnerian works, Norman Rockwell, Escher, Rembrandt, and
>most of the impressionists... But Velasquez really strikes a chord with
>me.
I was reading about him just the other day, and the author stated that
the name was pronounced "veh-LATH-keth". I would feel fairly silly
saying it like that. I'll say "veh-LASS-kez" anyway.
Ian Rastall
wrote:
>Well Ian, I would have to say that my favorite painter is
>Jacques-Louis David. I like both his neoclassical and Napoleonic era
>work. Unlike Van Eyck, David is a very"hip" choice!
Ready for another un-hip choice? John Constable, the landscape painter
from the Romantic era. I used to love going to the museum at the
Huntington Gardens in San Marino, CA. They have a lot of Constable,
and I just fell in love with that whole pastoral thing that he had
going on. (I'm sure there's better ways of describing his work.)
Terry
Hands down
Maxfield Parish
T
ip...@ptd.net
>> Mine's Velasquez. Of course I love the Pre-Raphaelites, Beardsley's
>> Arthurian and Wagnerian works, Norman Rockwell, Escher, Rembrandt, and
>> most of the impressionists... But Velasquez really strikes a chord with
>> me.
>
> I was reading about him just the other day, and the author stated that
> the name was pronounced "veh-LATH-keth". I would feel fairly silly
> saying it like that. I'll say "veh-LASS-kez" anyway.
>
> Ian
I-Man,
My understanding is that it's either-or, with one being the Castillion
Spanish pronunciation. Another example would be - as in Domingo -
"PLAH-see-doe" or "PLATH - e - doe".
Perhaps someone can verify or disclaim this.
Nizo
Joshua Rosenblatt
(in message <B951D42E.2C812%ip...@ptd.net>):
I'll "VER-ith-eye" that... unless you really prefer that I "DITH-claim" it.
Jothua
the "JOKE-thster"
Joshua Rosenblatt
(in message <01HW.B950886B0...@news.cis.dfn.de>):
Thorry, I'm thuch a thmart ath. I gueth you could thay I can't help ith.
Jothua
Blake
You are correct. Spanish Spanish is different than Mexican or Cuban Spanish.
Many of the consonants become softer. Domingo is pronounced Thomingo. It's
very subtle though when spoken by a native.
Blake
ip...@ptd.net
Now your juth being thilly.
Ni-tho
Bernie
Okay folks PC filters on now.
I disdain the above. Any population that takes up lisping just to suck up to
their king is pretty strange to me.
PC filters can come off now.
I think the lisp is on "c" letters and not "s" letters. So it would be
"Veh-Lass" but I also think the end is "K".
Joshua Rosenblatt
(in message <B951DBAB.2C826%ip...@ptd.net>):
>>
> Now your juth being thilly.
>
> Ni-tho
>
I'm tho Thorry Thenor Nitho.
<bluthing>
Jothua
ip...@ptd.net
What hijacked?
I guess that's where Nizo gets confused. The question was asked. The
question was answered. Where do you go from there?
What neurosis does this one fall under?
You can let it die, or have a little fun with it, but for heaven's sakes
don't nobody be rupturing no sphincter muscles over it! ;-))
Nizo
Chantymanjack1
Regarding name pronunciations.
There is only one correct way, the way in which the possessor of the name
pronounces it. So the lisping pronunciation of Velasquez is correct.
Fair winds,
Sailorman Jack
Chantymanjack1
>their king is pretty strange to me.
Dear Bernie,
Okay.
Then how do you feel about the English who adopted the broad "a" in
subservience to a sovereign who spoke English with a thick German accent
(George III)?
Fair winds,
Sailorman Jack
Ian Rastall
wrote:
>There is only one correct way, the way in which the possessor of the name
>pronounces it. So the lisping pronunciation of Velasquez is correct.
I agree with you, Jack, and I disagree. I think to a large extent a
name is a communication, and in the case of people from different eras
and countries, we're not communicating with them, or anyone they know,
but with people we know. Did you ever see Manhattan, the Woody Allen
film? One of the funniest parts of the film is where Diane Keaton
starts talking about "Van Goff". That's the correct pronunciation
(either that or "Van Gok"). But in this country we say "Van Go", and
to not do so is to get laughed at every time you say it the other way.
So, in the interests of not getting laughs every time I talk about
"Veh-lath-keth", I'll have to say it wrong. :)
Micheal Pelt
Just checked in with one of my students, a tennis player from South America.
Her mother's from Spain and speaks with a Castilian accent. According to her
(momma), the "lisp" is on all s-sounding letters, C, S, whatever. That's how
she speaks. Her daughter/My student sez her mother sounds "so fon-ny."
But you should hear this student try to speak German... it's a crackup. Then
again, she kix a$$ on the tennis court.
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Bernie
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Never heard of that one. Anyway it's better than lithping.
Bernie
>
> Just checked in with one of my students, a tennis player from South
America.
> Her mother's from Spain and speaks with a Castilian accent. According to
her
> (momma), the "lisp" is on all s-sounding letters, C, S, whatever. That's
how
> she speaks. Her daughter/My student sez her mother sounds "so fon-ny."
>
> But you should hear this student try to speak German... it's a crackup.
Then
> again, she kix a$$ on the tennis court.
>
Yeah. Now I think of it I had a Spanish girlfriend once, born in England,
and her mother said "Ethspan yoller" and such. So it is the s sound. Never
mind. I just wanted to say how much I disliked it. Now Italian.. is
beautiful to listen to even though it is quite similar in a lot of ways.
Chantymanjack1
>America.
Dear Michael Pelt,
Are you a tennis teacher?
Fair winds,
Sailorman Jack
Mingkahuna
>question was answered. Where do you go from there?
>What neurosis does this one fall under?
>You can let it die, or have a litt
Nizo's got this one right. When a thread runs its course, it's fair game,
that's always been the way.
Besides, and I just checked my Miss Manners Net book, I don't think that anyone
has ever really objected to threadjacking OT threads. If someone's got a
problem with that it's one thing, but.....
Buzz
Chantymanjack1
I say Van Gaht. So far as I can tell, people don't laught at me.
Fair winds,
Sailorman Jack
Ian Rastall
wrote:
>I say Van Gaht. So far as I can tell, people don't laught at me.
Well you've got enough guts to walk around with a nude figural pipe in
a public library. :)
Ian Rastall
>Besides, and I just checked my Miss Manners Net book, I don't think that anyone
>has ever really objected to threadjacking OT threads. If someone's got a
>problem with that it's one thing, but.....
Ha ha! You thought you could escape me, and yet I find you, hiding
like a little girl!
It is I, General Popiliaemescu Fontebrahaminan Collescuanama! I have
come to hijack this thread, and I demand thirty cents to be wired into
my account in the Cayman Islands, or I will not release it!
You have been warned, ASP'ers, now feel the forward thrust of my
wrath!
John de Manuel
>
> > I was reading about him just the other day, and the author stated that
> > the name was pronounced "veh-LATH-keth". I would feel fairly silly
> > saying it like that. I'll say "veh-LASS-kez" anyway.
> >
> > Ian
> I-Man,
> My understanding is that it's either-or, with one being the Castillion
> Spanish pronunciation. Another example would be - as in Domingo -
> "PLAH-see-doe" or "PLATH - e - doe".
> Perhaps someone can verify or disclaim this.
Mr. Domingo is Spanish, but has lived in Mexico since he was 8... I
suspect he outgrew the lisp. I was just born in Mexico, but I've never
lisped! Well, not unintentionally }D
Similarly, my brother-in-law, who is Castillian, goes into raptures
about MAN-THA-nee-ya. His twin brother, though, lives in Cuernavaca and
I suspect he prefers sherry. ;D
John de Manuel
than a day, and all thith goeth down!
Ian Rastall wrote:
>
> On 09 Jul 2002 21:46:34 GMT, mingk...@aol.com (Mingkahuna) wrote:
>
> >Besides, and I just checked my Miss Manners Net book, I don't think that anyone
> >has ever really objected to threadjacking OT threads. If someone's got a
> >problem with that it's one thing, but.....
>
> Ha ha! You thought you could escape me, and yet I find you, hiding
> like a little girl!
>
> It is I, General Popiliaemescu Fontebrahaminan Collescuanama! I have
> come to hijack this thread, and I demand thirty cents to be wired into
> my account in the Cayman Islands, or I will not release it!
>
> You have been warned, ASP'ers, now feel the forward thrust of my
> wrath!
Come thir, bring the forward thrutht of your wrath to bear. Behold, not
on red thent of the thirty you tho intholently prethume to demand will
be depothited anywhere near your crocodilian accont. Inthtead, behold!
Dotht thenth a thting on thy cheek? Behold, behold! Yea, verily,
behold my leathern glove, which now doth land on thy bootth. Draw
thteel, churl, and prepare to meet thy doom!
Hello! My name ith Procopio Lardithabal Allumañethco de Manaluthao.
You, uh... hijacked your own thread. Prepare to... uh... hmmm...
John de Manuel
> Yeah. Now I think of it I had a Spanish girlfriend once, born in England,
> and her mother said "Ethspan yoller" and such. So it is the s sound. Never
> mind. I just wanted to say how much I disliked it. Now Italian.. is
> beautiful to listen to even though it is quite similar in a lot of ways.
You would love Porteño then, the Spanish of Buenos Aires, heavily spiced
with Italian... the Spanish I knew until I was 5 years old.
Que cosa mas rara, eh, chei?
ip...@ptd.net
Again Sailorman Jack,
Plah-si-doe or Plath e- doe. Either is correct.
As far as the possessor's pronunciation; what you yourself chooses does not
necessarily mean that it is correct. Many European name pronunciations have,
in fact, been anglicized to the degree whereby the possessor of that name
may be entirely unaware of the fact that he is mispronouncing it.
Nizo
Anthony Coronado
> Similarly, my brother-in-law, who is Castillian, goes into raptures
> about MAN-THA-nee-ya. His twin brother, though, lives in Cuernavaca and
> I suspect he prefers sherry. ;D
Ha! I had to laugh out loud at the sherry part. My mothers side is all
Castillian (blond hair, blue eyes and perfect spanish). When my
grandmother and her sisters (I can't count them all) get together, the
tiny little sherry glasses come out of the hutch and they get "stinko."
Tony.
--
[Re: "Da Bomb" hot sauce]
This stuff will not only take the paint off a battleship, it'll also hunt
down the painter and hir family, murder them, desecrate the bodies, and proceed
to have its way with the family pet. --Mark C. Langston
Ian Rastall
<ghab...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>Hello! My name ith Procopio Lardithabal Allumañethco de Manaluthao.
>You, uh... hijacked your own thread. Prepare to... uh... hmmm...
Ha ha! You strike well, churl, and yet my Dragon Elbow is the stronger
style! Let that be a lesson to you: never cross a man after his thirty
cents!
Chantymanjack1
>necessarily mean that it is correct. Many European name
>pronunciations have,
>in fact, been anglicized to the degree whereby the possessor of that name
>may be entirely unaware of the fact that he is mispronouncing it.
Dear Nizo,
Sorry. You are wrong. If it is your name, you decide on the proper
pronunciation.
Fair winds,
Sailorman Jack
ip...@ptd.net
Okay, Sailorman, you win.
"Nizo" will now and forever be pronounced Schmendrick.
Schmendrick (spelled N-i-z-o)
Micheal Pelt
Right & AGreed. The point I was sort of getting toward was that very few
Spanish speaking people actually speak with the Castillian accent, and most
of them find it rather affectatious (if not outright silly).
tuppence a bag,
Micheal.
Rev. Melissa Robitille
I'm going to completely ignore all the silly stuff the two of you were up
to... Well, okay, maybe not *completely* - it was funny.
At any rate, Castillian spanish, properly pronounced, is spoken with a
near-constant lisp. I can't remember *who* the person in question was, but
I'm quite sure I remember being told by one professor or another that the
reason behind this is that some Spanish monarch or another had the nastiest
lisp and, well, you don't want to sound *different* from a monarch with a
nasty temper and a nasty lisp, do you? So, it just sort of snuck in and
stuck.
Rev. Melissa 'Red Rev' Robitille
Micheal Pelt
For some reason this reminds me of the guy several years ago who got on a
transit bus in Tampa, held a gun to the driver's head and said... "Take
theees boss to Cuba."
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
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>
>
>
> Plah-si-doe or Plath e- doe. Either is correct.
>
You say Car-mee-no, I say Car-my-no; let's call the whole thing Orff.
Gerard Montoya
Peter Hurd
Wilson Hurley
Both paint in very large format, incredibly moving
work...I could lose myself in their paintings.
John de Manuel
> Ha ha! You strike well, churl, and yet my Dragon Elbow is the stronger
> style! Let that be a lesson to you: never cross a man after his thirty
> cents!
Tho THAT'TH who you are! Tho! Why did you kill my teat'ther? WHY DID
YOU KILL MY TEAT'THER? WHY WHY WHY WHY
WHYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE???????!!!!
;)
ip...@ptd.net
>
> <ip...@ptd.net> wrote in message news:B9526649.2C8CE%ip...@ptd.net...
>>
>>
>>
>> Plah-si-doe or Plath e- doe. Either is correct.
>>
>
> You say Car-mee-no, I say Car-my-no; let's call the whole thing Orff.
>
You are correct sir, and while we're at it. . .
You say Po- tay- toe, I'll say Chicago; and waddaya want from me?
Nizo
Runowski
Thomas Hart Benton, Winslow Homer, and the sketches of Alexander Calder III.
Americana at its most obvious and best. Benton is epic in his depictions of
American mythology.