James Upshall Pipe Company - Manufacture's Suggested Retail Price List
Michael Falba
For the James Upshall Pipe Company's Suggested Retail Price List,
click on the following link:
http://www.classicpipes.com/msrp_price_list.htm
Thanks.
Mike
jb
Barry Jones or not, I can't believe what has happened to the prices of
Upshalls! I have about 7-8 Upshalls in my collection that were
purchased several years ago, and they smoke wonderfully. However, in
my opinion (and it's only that), they are not $900 to $2,200 pipes. I
know the history of the company, the Charatan legacy, etc.
I don't know many folks who would could afford an Eltang who would
rather get an Upshall high end billiard.
jb
p.s. I'd love to hear from any of you who feel differently on the
subject.
mkjr...@aol.comnojunk (Mike Rothenberg) wrote:
>>For the James Upshall Pipe Company's Suggested Retail Price List,
>>click on the following link:
>>
>
>When Upshalls first appeared I purchased several, actually about eight of them
>in a year's time. I could afford them at $175 retail. I realize that prices
>have gone up, but wow!
>
>Mike Rothenberg
Bob Clair aka dugoutdog
at 'the old prices'. True there are many other factors involved but the
very low cost of the pipes contributed to it.
Also quite true if you are going to judge Upshall pipes by the prices on the
B, G, E grades (which represent less than 1% of their total production) then
you are going to have the opinion they are way, way too expensive. I won't
even bring up the X or XX grade since a XX hasn't been achieved in over 15
years and the only X produced in the last 10 years is not for sale. If you
look at the prices of a 'P' grade or lower, the prices range from $175 to
$710. That's MSRP. Certainly prices that are comparable to other high
grade pipes regardless of what country they come from. Dealers are free to
charge less. Has anybody who's bashing Mike for not posting prices even
called him to find out what he is selling them for? Sure doesn't sound like
it to me.
One thing I also notice by the numerous threads on Upshalls lately is not
one person has said they are a bad smoke. Everyone has said they own them
and enjoy them. Why do most of us own pipes anyway? I thought it was for a
great smoke.
Felt like I had to add my $ .02 here.
Bob
"Mike Rothenberg" <mkjr...@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
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> >For the James Upshall Pipe Company's Suggested Retail Price List,
> >click on the following link:
> >
>
Beerhoch
billed as a "Managing Directors Archive Sale" (or something to that extent). I
have paid between $70-$98 for each pipe. These are not the Tilsahead seconds,
but 1st quality new pipes. I guess that they are excess inventory. Great pipes,
at great prices! I see Upshall selling these regularly on Ebay, if anyone is
interested.
Smoke in peace,
Craig
Bob Clair aka dugoutdog
pipes and a very few group 4. Sometimes that's all a piece of briar will
yield. The market for pipes this size is very small so the owner decided to
sell them on ebay. By doing so he was able to recover his cost he had into
the pipes. Doesn't look good to the general public, the owner of a company
dumping his product, but there was a reason and limitations on what he was
selling.
"Beerhoch" <beer...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Michael Falba
There has been an increase in the prices of James Upshall and Tilshead
Pipes over the past 10 years, but let's remember that the main reason
the Tilshead Pipe Company folded was that their pipes were previously
priced too low. A fantastic pipe gone, and now back on the American
Market and priced very competitively.
There are several other great English Pipes and several great English
Pipemakers and companies besides Upshall that are fabulous
contributors to our wonderful past time. Dunhill, Bill Taylor, and
Les Wood come to my mind. I love them all! These guys will also tell
you that Barry Jones' skills as a pipemaker and artist are supreme.
The James Upshall Pipe Company has been back in business since early
1997 thanks to Moty Ezrati a wonderful man and personal friend! He
purchased the company and kept everything as it was. Barry Jones, the
last of the great Charatan Artists is still cutting, hand turning,
finishing and stemming every Upshall Pipe that is produced at the
James Upshall Studios.
The same great pipes, made by the same artist, from the same air cured
Grecian Plateau, made with the same equipment and tools in the same
studio as they were when the company first started.
The pipes are priced fairly and competitively as compared to the other
Great English Pipes. Click on the following link to compare:
http://www.classicpipes.com/HTML/Comparative%20Price%20List.htm
Thanks!
Mike Falba
mfa...@classicpipes.com (Michael Falba) wrote in message news:<3d444c23.02051...@posting.google.com>...
jb
the Belvedere grade pipe. You don't see even up to P grade because
according to the company, the distributers of the higher grades would
go ballistic if they sold anything higher. Just an FWIW.
Nobody is questioning that Upshalls are nice smoking pipes. I believe
that's a given. The question is the opportunity cost involved related
to the higher end varieties. That is a very legit point of discussion,
isn't it?
jb
rhodog
> Barry Jones, the last of the great Charatan Artists is still cutting,
hand turning,
> finishing and stemming every Upshall Pipe that is produced at the James
Upshall
> Studios.
Barry Jones is not the last of the great Charatan Artists. Dennis Marshall,
the founder of Millville pipes, worked for 30 years as a carver for Barling
and Charatan. And as a matter of fact, his pipes are much more in the
Charatan style than those of Barry Jones.
Best regards,
Erwin
jb
Not to be argumentative because I think you are generally correct in
your comments, but your comparison is misleading. You list P grade
Upshalls with an MSRP of $465 in your chart. And while there are some
at that price on your site, there are others that cost $675. I don't
know what the latest MSRP on Dunhills and Ashtons are, but if you are
going to make those comparisons, I think it should be consistent to
what is on your own site.
Thanks, jb
rhodog
"> The pipes are priced fairly and competitively as compared to the other
> Great English Pipes. Click on the following link to compare:
>
> http://www.classicpipes.com/HTML/Comparative%20Price%20List.htm
Fairly and competitively priced as compared to the other Great English
Pipes, you say ? OK then, let's compare prices.
Clive Humm sells Upshall. Two examples of his prices compared to those you
mention in your price list :
- Tilshead size 5 : Clive $145, you $225
- P grade freehand ExL : Clive $400, you $675.
And let's make the comparaison you made : an Upshall size 5 compared to an
Ashton XXX.
- Blast Upshall 5 : $270
- Blast Ashton XXX : $138 at the Falkum website
- Upshall P grade 5 : $465
- Ashton Sovereign XXX : $180 at the Pipenhoeker website.
In the Dan Pipe catalogue a Bark Les Wood with silver band is priced $129
and a Chestnut with silver band $152.
So you see, everything depends upon which retail prices you compare yours
with.
Colonel Panic
thusly in alt.smokers.pipes:
>One thing I also notice by the numerous threads on Upshalls lately is not
>one person has said they are a bad smoke. Everyone has said they own them
>and enjoy them. Why do most of us own pipes anyway? I thought it was for a
>great smoke.
Yes, and honestly - if I wanted a new English pipe I'd rather spend my
money on an Upshall than a Dunhill. They're handmade from scratch,
not finished turned stummels. The grain as well as finish is a factor
and they're damned good smokers. The only common complaint is that
the stem material oxidizes quickly, but if you're not a chewer they're
some of the most comfortable stems going so there's your trade-off.
I love 'em.
Reg'ds,
Terry
--
"With all of the smoke, beer and dogs.... I hope the place is well-ventilated."
- Jeff Folloder
"Why? I can get transparent air anytime! <g>"
- Bear Graves
Michael Falba
> the founder of Millville pipes, worked for 30 years as a carver for Barling
> and Charatan. And as a matter of fact, his pipes are much more in the
> Charatan style than those of Barry Jones.
>
> Best regards,
> Erwin
Erwin:
Dennis Marshall is retired and no longer makes pipes. Barry is the last.
Mike
Michael Falba
Upshalls are still cheaper than Ashtons and Dunhills of comparitive
sizes and grades. The expensive prices that you are quoting are for
the high grade pipes which are extremely rare and special.
The pipes are priced by the Manufacturer well and fairly. I am just
passing on the information that they are available if you want them.
The pipes sell world wide and people are very happy with them in all
markets.
It's is a well agreed fact that Upshalls are high quality pipes. I
sell a minimum of 12 pipes per month on my website, and have been for
the last year since I began carrying Upshall.
You should be able to find them out there from others besides me. If
you want one, buy it from your favorite shop at what ever price you
agree upon. I list them on my website at the MSRP as I was asked to
do by the Managing Director of the company, M. Eztrai. If you wish to
negotiate, e-mail me for price and availability, that's why I have the
button next to the pipe.
I personally would rather have a high grade Upshall than an Eltang.
It's my own personal taste. We all are different.
Mike
jb <bur...@NOSPAMwinfirst.com> wrote in message news:<snfbeuk8h8oi14h8f...@4ax.com>...
Michael Falba
You're quoting me discounted prices, not MSRP. All shops discount,
it's a way of life, I understand.
I advertise the Upshalls on my website at the MSRP as I was asked to
do by M. Ezrati, the companies Managing Director. There is a button
next to each pipe to e-mail for price and availability. If you wish
to buy a pipe from me, hit that button.
I'm sure that you have your own favorite shops and folks that you like
to purchase from, and I think that is great. There is a lot of good
people out there selling pipes. If you want an Upshall get your
favorite shop keeper or internet site to order one for you. You can
then negotiate a price that works for you.
Thanks!
Mike
"rhodog" <mo...@pandora.be> wrote in message news:<ac5oma$n9gh7$1...@ID-133914.news.dfncis.de>...
Michael Falba
equal comparisons.
$675.00 is the MSRP of an Extra Large P Grade Upshall. That would
compare as follows.
Upshall P Ex.L = $675
Dunhill Root ODA = $1065.00
Ashton Sovereign ELX = $900.00
My comparisons are very consistent.
Thanks!
Mike
jb <bur...@NOSPAMwinfirst.com> wrote in message news:<jrkceu86kdkqi9tg5...@4ax.com>...
Cgeedee
there's nothing like seeing it in print. Makes me wish that I had kept the one
that I put out on ebay... :-(
I have just Upshall in my collection, the result of a recent trade. A
nice bent B, if I'd have to guess, grp 5. Great shape, great grain, great
smoke. Looking at the prices, I think I'll pull this one off the rack, sleeve
it, put it in a drawer...
chas.
Mike Rothenberg
This is an interesting discussion and I would like to add that
Upshalls are good pipes. I do not have anything against them and
would love to have a couple of nice size 4s in my collection to add to
the one beautiful billiard I have owned since Upshall first began
selling pipes in the US. But, I must search for the best values, the
best pipes for the money. Upshalls just don't compete with Cavicchi,
Tinsky, or Le Nuvole pipes. These pipes offer higher quality plus
lower prices. Ashtons, Dunhills, and Ferndowns are also good pipes
and are represented in my collection. But, just as with Upshalls,
they do not compete with my current choices as best pipe buys. I know
that everyone wants to make a living and I'm not suggesting that they
shouldn't, but my priority is to take care of my "business". In doing
so I must continue to buy only the pipes that I feel meet my
individual needs (quality and price). The dealers on the web who can
offer the best prices and services will continue to get my business.
That's the free market approach to pipe buying.
Mike Rothenberg