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Roy G

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Hi guys (and gals maybe !), I thought I would tell you about a modification
to a pipe I have invented which is pretty neat - I wonder maybe if anyone
else has tried it. I inherited a "meerschaum" type pipe from my grandfather
when he died, I think it is real old. First I just kept it but then I got
wondering what it would be like to smoke it, but you know I sort of didn't
want to smoke it because he was dead ? Anyway, one night after a few beers I
tried it out and it was real good. It has a real big bowl and I got a good
buzz on. That time I used tobacco taken out of cigarettes but after I bought
some proper pipe tobacco.

Problem was that it took real long to smoke down, with the bowl being big as
I said. So one day I thought maybe I could burn the tobacco plug faster. So,
I drilled a real narrow hole in the base of the bowl (it was hard to do, it
was made of like stone or something) and connected up a small rubber tube
with a small bleed of pure oxygen, we have some cannisters around for my
mother's emphysema. After some practice adjusting the bleed rate I found the
plug could burn maybe 2 times faster than usual - one time I checked out
the plug half-way through and it looked like it was burning from the bottom
of the bowl as well as at the top. I think also the burn temperature is
higher so you get more aromatic taste in the smoke too.

Maybe you guys would like to try the idea - I do not want to patent
it or anything.

Roy Grainger


Anton Botes

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Roy G wrote in message <#okQ2tiI$GA.70@cpmsnbbsa02>...

Now why did the left side of my face start twitching when I read this ???
I also found I was cringing in my chair.....

Cheers
Anton Botes

John Sandin

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In article <#okQ2tiI$GA.70@cpmsnbbsa02>,

"Roy G" <roy_gr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi guys (and gals maybe !), I thought I would tell you about a modification
> to a pipe I have invented which is pretty neat - I wonder maybe if anyone
> else has tried it. I inherited a "meerschaum" type pipe from my grandfather
> when he died, I think it is real old. First I just kept it but then I got
> wondering what it would be like to smoke it, but you know I sort of didn't
> want to smoke it because he was dead ? Anyway, one night after a few beers I
> tried it out and it was real good. It has a real big bowl and I got a good
> buzz on. That time I used tobacco taken out of cigarettes but after I bought
> some proper pipe tobacco.
>
> Problem was that it took real long to smoke down, with the bowl being big as
> I said. So one day I thought maybe I could burn the tobacco plug faster. So,
> I drilled a real narrow hole in the base of the bowl (it was hard to do, it
> was made of like stone or something) and connected up a small rubber tube
> with a small bleed of pure oxygen, we have some cannisters around for my
> mother's emphysema. After some practice adjusting the bleed rate I found the
> plug could burn maybe 2 times faster than usual - one time I checked out
> the plug half-way through and it looked like it was burning from the bottom
> of the bowl as well as at the top. I think also the burn temperature is
> higher so you get more aromatic taste in the smoke too.
>
> Maybe you guys would like to try the idea - I do not want to patent
> it or anything.
>
> Roy Grainger
>
>

Finally.... a solution to that "wet dottle" problem.

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Steve Thomas

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Anton,

On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 19:46:36 +0200, "Anton Botes" <ajb...@mweb.co.za>
wrote:

>Now why did the left side of my face start twitching when I read this ???
>I also found I was cringing in my chair.....

because,

>Roy G wrote in message <#okQ2tiI$GA.70@cpmsnbbsa02>...

Anyway, one night after a few beers
>I
>>tried it out and it was real good. It has a real big bowl and I got a good
>>buzz on.

I think we have arrived at the crux of the matter. :-)


>>I drilled a real narrow hole in the base of the bowl (it was hard to do, it
>>was made of like stone or something) and connected up a small rubber tube
>>with a small bleed of pure oxygen, we have some cannisters around for my
>>mother's emphysema.
>>

>>Maybe you guys would like to try the idea - I do not want to patent
>>it or anything.

Let me get this straight - You steal oxygen from your own mother that
she needs for her illness, and you don't want to patent it?

Aw go on. Go for it! Think of the millions you could make! I can just
picture the marketing campaign now...

Steve


Greg Sprinkle

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In article <#okQ2tiI$GA.70@cpmsnbbsa02>, roy_gr...@hotmail.com says...

> Maybe you guys would like to try the idea - I do not want to patent
> it or anything.

Go ahead and patent this one; we want to make sure you get all the credit
and accolades for this idea...really!

--
Greg Sprinkle
http://www.erols.com/gsprink

Mingkahuna

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Hmmmm, open flame around oxygen cannisters. You'd best start signing your
posts "the soon to be late Roy Grainger."
Puff, puff. BOOM, BOOM.

Buzz

baeo...@leru.net

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If you want a good seal, just put a few drops of oil around the fitting:)

Roy G wrote:

> Hi guys (and gals maybe !), I thought I would tell you about a modification
> to a pipe I have invented which is pretty neat - I wonder maybe if anyone
> else has tried it. I inherited a "meerschaum" type pipe from my grandfather
> when he died, I think it is real old. First I just kept it but then I got
> wondering what it would be like to smoke it, but you know I sort of didn't

> want to smoke it because he was dead ? Anyway, one night after a few beers I


> tried it out and it was real good. It has a real big bowl and I got a good

> buzz on. That time I used tobacco taken out of cigarettes but after I bought
> some proper pipe tobacco.
>
> Problem was that it took real long to smoke down, with the bowl being big as
> I said. So one day I thought maybe I could burn the tobacco plug faster. So,

> I drilled a real narrow hole in the base of the bowl (it was hard to do, it
> was made of like stone or something) and connected up a small rubber tube
> with a small bleed of pure oxygen, we have some cannisters around for my

> mother's emphysema. After some practice adjusting the bleed rate I found the
> plug could burn maybe 2 times faster than usual - one time I checked out
> the plug half-way through and it looked like it was burning from the bottom
> of the bowl as well as at the top. I think also the burn temperature is
> higher so you get more aromatic taste in the smoke too.
>

> Maybe you guys would like to try the idea - I do not want to patent
> it or anything.
>

> Roy Grainger


Roy G

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Oct 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/29/99
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No, you are wrong, I don't steal oxygen from my mother, I pay her for it $1
per minute, plus I offered to let her have a draw on the pipe to if she
wanted so she could get a double benefit (but she didn't want to - she is a
Mormon and also an practicing aromatherapist).


Steve Thomas <sth...@penn.com> wrote in message
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> Anton,
>
> On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 19:46:36 +0200, "Anton Botes" <ajb...@mweb.co.za>
> wrote:
>
> >Now why did the left side of my face start twitching when I read this ???
> >I also found I was cringing in my chair.....
>
> because,
>
> >Roy G wrote in message <#okQ2tiI$GA.70@cpmsnbbsa02>...

> Anyway, one night after a few beers
> >I
> >>tried it out and it was real good. It has a real big bowl and I got a
good
> >>buzz on.
>

> I think we have arrived at the crux of the matter. :-)
>
>

> >>I drilled a real narrow hole in the base of the bowl (it was hard to do,
it
> >>was made of like stone or something) and connected up a small rubber
tube
> >>with a small bleed of pure oxygen, we have some cannisters around for my
> >>mother's emphysema.
> >>

> >>Maybe you guys would like to try the idea - I do not want to patent
> >>it or anything.
>

Dave Nester

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Oct 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/29/99
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Roy Grainger
If I was your Grandpap, I'd come back and kick your butt for ruining my fine
old Meerschaum.

Dave

Roy G

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You were never in science class, oxygen doesn't burn, you are thinking of
hydrogen maybe, if oxygen burnt it would be pretty stupid of them to release
oxygen masks just before the plane was going to crash wouldn't it ? I'm
sorry, nothing personal, but I don't think the group benefits from
ill-informed posts like this. Actually, if the plane was going to crash I'd
rather they handed round my turbo-pipes (that is the name I'm using for this
product) to all the passengers to help them stay calm.


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Mingkahuna

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Oct 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/29/99
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Tad touchy aren't we? Lighten up a bit.

Funny, in every medical situation I've been in where there are tanks of
oxygen, smoking or open flame is strictly prohibited. Must be a lot if
ill-informed folks out there.

Buzz

Roy G

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Oct 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/29/99
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Unfortunately what with his artificial limb (leg) and his life-long pacifism
(except during wartime) he could try but it would not worry me too much.
Plus he wouldn't know where I was living now.

Dave Nester <tr...@epix.net> wrote in message
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Mingkahuna

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And sir, after reading your original post once again, I noted that you have
stated that you use "pure oxygen." If you do not believe the use of pure
oxygen to be extremely dangerous, you are the one that is ill-informed. Pure
oxygen is a flame accelerant. Pure oxygen is indeed extremely dangerous around
open flame. Most informed people know this to be true. And, after your last
posting, I contacted one of the largest suppliers of pure oxygen for medical
use in the Greater Cleveland area. The gentleman informed me that the
intentional use of flame around even a restricted flow of pure oxygen amounts
to monumental stupidity.

Buzz

Tattace3

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Oct 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM10/29/99
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Roy,

I have been in hospital with oxygen back when a person could smoke in their
room and if you had oxygen it was no smoking. Also burned a lot of iron with an
oxy / acetelyne torch.
Some astronauts died at the Cape as a result of an oxygen propelled fire in the
sixties.

As far as your invention goes,

"Build a better mousetrap and the world will beat a path to your door!"

;-)) Jimmy


>Subject: Re: Pipe modification
>From: "Roy G" roy_gr...@hotmail.com
>Date: Fri, 29 October 1999 05:12 PM EDT
>Message-id: <eu34bHlI$GA.267@cpmsnbbsa05>

baeo...@leru.net

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You are correct. Oxygen doesn't burn. It can, however, turn a tiny spark into a
roaring conflagration. It also explodes when it comes in contact with petroleum
products, and the remark about oiling the fitting was a joke, but I'm sure you
knew that:)

Lance Sang

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Buzz,

I'm surprised that nobody in the group has yet wondered why the "soon to be
the Late Roy Grainger" is smoking anything, regardless of how he smokes,
when he states that his mother has emphysema?

A bit inconsiderate I'd say, unless the pulmonary-afflicted lady herself
also still smokes.

Lance

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Lance Sang

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(I posted a reply similar to what follows, but the server has not put it on
the thread)

I am wondering why "the soon to be late Roy Grainger" is smoking anything,
in any manner, around his emphysema stricken mother?
Seems a bit inconsiderate, unless the pulmonary-afflicted lady herself is
still smoking, despite needing oxygen for her disease.

Lance


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KDixon2711

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<< You were never in science class, oxygen doesn't burn, >>

Tell that to the crew of Apollo I

Ken in Miami
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Gregory Pease

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In article <e0C1j$kI$GA.358@cpmsnbbsa05> , "Roy G"
<roy_gr...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> You were never in science class, oxygen doesn't burn, you are thinking of
> hydrogen maybe, if oxygen burnt it would be pretty stupid of them to release
> oxygen masks just before the plane was going to crash wouldn't it ? I'm
> sorry, nothing personal, but I don't think the group benefits from
> ill-informed posts like this. Actually, if the plane was going to crash I'd
> rather they handed round my turbo-pipes (that is the name I'm using for this
> product) to all the passengers to help them stay calm.

Well, since this is turning into a sixth grade science class ...

Nothing burns in the absence of oxygen, and increasing the amount of free
oxygen available will increase, up to a point, the rate at which something
will burn. This is, in fact, just what you are doing with your pipe
modification.

If you'd like a demonstration of this, take a glass soda bottle and hold it
upside down over the hose from the oxygen cylinder, with the gas on, long
enough to displace the air from the bottle. Hold your thumb over the opening
of the bottle, and light an ordinary kitchen match. Drop the match into the
bottle, and observe how much more quickly it burns. No, it's not going to
combust explosively, but it will burst into flame in the presence of all
that free O2.

Further, hydrogen does not burn if oxygen is not present ... 2 molecules of
hydrogen and on molecule of oxygen, plus a little spark of activation
energy, and you get the bang plus one molecules of water.

Nothing personal, but I don't think the group benefits from ill-informed
posts like yours ...

> Mingkahuna <mingk...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:19991029145814...@ng-cl1.aol.com...
>> Hmmmm, open flame around oxygen cannisters. You'd best start signing your
>> posts "the soon to be late Roy Grainger."
>> Puff, puff. BOOM, BOOM.

--
Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful,
committed citizens can change the world; indeed,
it's the only thing that ever has. -Margaret Mead

Gregory Pease

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In article <7vd65s$if4$1...@bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net> , "Lance Sang"
<san...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> A bit inconsiderate I'd say, unless the pulmonary-afflicted lady herself
> also still smokes.

Remember the film, "Smoke?" I went to see if shortly after it was released,
and enjoyed it immensely. More poignant still, in a sad sort of way, was the
old woman, wheeling about a cart of oxygen, connected through pipes to her
nose, walking up to the ticket counter, and requesting a ticket. The asphalt
in her voice, the squeak of the wheels of her cart, her slow shuffling, and
her request for "One for Smoke" made for a comically tragic scene.

But, not quite as funny as the thought of someone's one legged grandpop
coming back from beyond to kick his lilly white butt...


Sorry...

--
Day ferments. Eyes moisten with clouds.
Wind shakes trees, and they laugh,
just as the playful racket of children
happens, because mothers cry out
and fathers reach to touch. -Rumi

Walter L. De Visser, Sr

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Greg, you remind me of the father of my best friend in high school. He
smoked 3 or 4 packs of Pall Mall cigarettes a day and, of course, he could
not breathe. Needless to say, he left my friend an orphan. He would take
off his mask so he could smoke. He would lay all day on the couch smoking
and using oxygen. He would turn off the valve so he wouldn't kill himself!!

Never could figure that out!

--
Walt


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Jim Beard

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Ladies and Gentlemen of a.s.p.,

As this young man is obviously striving earnestly for the Darwin Award,
perhaps we should simply notify him that qualifying for the actual award
actually involves, nay requires, a fatal mistake, and thus the winner will
not be around to receive the posthumous prize. Those contending for the
runner-up consolation prize are advised to have all premiums up to dat on a
generous medical insurance policy.

On 29 Oct 1999, "Roy G" <roy_gr...@hotmail.com> wrote ...


> You were never in science class, oxygen doesn't burn,

Burning, conventional combustion, is nothing more than rapid exothermic
oxidation of a suitable fuel, such as materials containing an abundance of
carbon, hydrogen, and similar elements. Oxygen obviously cannot oxidize
itself, but it can surely can do the trick on many other substances.

> if oxygen burnt it would be pretty stupid of them to release
> oxygen masks just before the plane was going to crash wouldn't it ?

The oxygen masks are released only when the aircraft is at high altitude
and cabin pressure drops to the point oxygen is required to sustain life
and function of the human body. Due to the risk of fire, it would be nice
to avoid use of high-purity oxygen even then, but it would accomplish
little to avoid fire only to have everyone die of asphyxiation.

> Actually, if the plane was going to crash I'd
> rather they handed round my turbo-pipes (that is the name I'm using for this
> product) to all the passengers to help them stay calm.

If the plane was going to crash, the last thing you would want to do would
be hand out fire starters and bottles of high-purity oxygen. And in
any case, this would violate the FAA ban on smoking aboard airliners, so
legally and economically it would be a non-starter anyway.<grin>

> Mingkahuna <mingk...@aol.com> wrote


> > Hmmmm, open flame around oxygen cannisters. You'd best start signing your
> > posts "the soon to be late Roy Grainger."
> > Puff, puff. BOOM, BOOM.

You have been warned.

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Mike Gervais

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Roy G wrote:
" I do not want to patent it or anything."

Ha!!! riches are mine!!!!!!!!!

baeo...@leru.net

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If anyone had read this closer, they would have automatically disregarded the
comment out of hand as being written by someome who's never smoked a pipe.
Notice the line which reads: "Problem was that it took real long to smoke

down, with the bowl being big as I said".
I can think of no pipe smoker who would consider this a problem and want a bowl
of good tobacco to be over with sooner, and after realizing the trouble involved
in breaking in a good pipe I can also think of no reason a pipe smoker would
take a chance on screwing up a good smoker. I guard all mine with my life, and
sacrifice live chickens to the Pipe God every full moon in the hopes he will
continue to keep my pipe sweet and cool smoking.

Roy G wrote:


baeo...@leru.net

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Mr. Grainger,
The only problem with giving the acceptance speech is the current medical
technology inability to raise the dead. You see, the award you've been nominated
for is given posthumously.

Roy G wrote:

> Please do not talk about me as if I was not here, I am only doing my best to
> further the cause of pipe technology. Do you think that man would have
> walked on the moon and other planets if it was not for people like me
> (similar, at least) ?
>
> I think it is a pity you are only laughing at my idea - some other posters
> have made fun of my family, I think this is very bad, my mother is an
> aromatherapist and requires a calm atmosphere for her healing karma to
> become active she says. If you read other posts you will see though that
> some people think my idea is so good they are nominating it for an award
> from Mr. Darwin, you can be sure that in my acceptance speech I'll point out
> to him how many uninformed people laughed at my turbo-pipe invention. I
> guess it was similar for many great inventors of the past, Eisenstein,
> Hemmingway and so on.
>
> Roy Grainger
>
> Birdandcat <birda...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:19991030133828...@ng-da1.aol.com...
> > I'm sorry, my eyes are watering from laughing so hard. If this guy is for
> real
> > I shouldn't laugh at him. But if he's not then he's done an oh so great
> job of
> > convincing me he's a congenital idiot.
> > Back to lurking.
> > bird


baeo...@leru.net

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Dunno Lance.
I saw it here, or maybe in the Mensa ng. Just can't seem to find it again.
Somebody here ought to be able to remember it or have it in their history list.

Lance Sang wrote:

> <baeo...@leru.net> wrote in message news:381A09A2...@leru.net...


> > Mr. Grainger,
> > The only problem with giving the acceptance speech is the current medical
> > technology inability to raise the dead. You see, the award you've been
> nominated
> > for is given posthumously.
>

> The full meaning of the Darwin Award hasn't yet been mentioned in this
> thread.
>
> Not only is it given posthumously, its intention is to inform those who are
> still living that another dumb s.o.b. has done the world's gene pool a
> service by dying, in an incredibly stupid fashion, and thus not being able
> to pass along his defects to the next generation.
>
> There is (was?) a site that had the citations for all the Darwin Awards of
> previous years; does anybody here have the address?
>
> Lance


ken...@my-deja.com

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In article <eL2uR8kI$GA.323@cpmsnbbsa05>,

"Roy G" <roy_gr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>No, you are wrong, I don't steal oxygen from my mother, I pay her for
>it $1 per minute, plus I offered to let her have a draw on the pipe to
>if she wanted so she could get a double benefit (but she didn't want to
>- she is a Mormon and also an practicing aromatherapist).

Fellow ASP'ers:
It seems to me we have two possibilities here:
1) "The soon-to-be-late Roy Grainger" really is the half-wit he seems to
be, in which case we are wasting bandwidth trying to convince him of it
or
2) He should hand you all your legs back, and thank you for being such
great straight men.
C'mon. He pays his mother $1.00/minute for the oxygen?

--
Ken Dawe

This universe sold by weight, not by volume. Some expansion may have
occured during shipping.

Mingkahuna

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>Fellow ASP'ers:
>It seems to me we have two possibilities here:
>1) "The soon-to-be-late Roy Grainger" really is the half-wit he seems to
>be, in which case we are wasting bandwidth trying to convince him of it
>or
>2) He should hand you all your legs back, and thank you for being such
>great straight men.
>C'mon. He pays his mother $1.00/minute for the oxygen?


I vote for choice number 2 ;-)

Buzz

CYBret

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Have you considered adding a nubbin?

Bret
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T. S. Elliot


Clive B

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No, you have caught me out, you are quite correct, I don't pay my mother $1
a minute for the oxygen - what I do is provide her with services to the
value of $1 a minute, so like when she takes delivery of her aromatherapy
oils I help her blend it with certain essential and secret components
(vanilla essence and soy sauce) - this oil comes in 6 gallon drums so
there's some heavy mixing work to do - I need a couple of draws on the
turbo-pipe just to keep me going. Also, I think you may have misread the
posts - it is my grandpop who was minus a leg, not the people posting here.


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> In article <eL2uR8kI$GA.323@cpmsnbbsa05>,
> "Roy G" <roy_gr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >No, you are wrong, I don't steal oxygen from my mother, I pay her for
> >it $1 per minute, plus I offered to let her have a draw on the pipe to
> >if she wanted so she could get a double benefit (but she didn't want to
> >- she is a Mormon and also an practicing aromatherapist).
>

Clive B

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Hey people get real ! This guy can't be for real - anybody can write rubbish
like this ...

I have developed a new pipe modification, it is a combined pipe and duck
call, when you inhale it is a pipe, when you exhale it is a duck call, it is
useful for hunters as they can attract ducks and keep away mosquitos at the
same time. JEEZ PEOPLE, GET REAL !!!


Roy G <roy_gr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi guys (and gals maybe !), I thought I would tell you about a
modification
> to a pipe I have invented which is pretty neat - I wonder maybe if anyone
> else has tried it. I inherited a "meerschaum" type pipe from my
grandfather
> when he died, I think it is real old. First I just kept it but then I got
> wondering what it would be like to smoke it, but you know I sort of didn't

> want to smoke it because he was dead ? Anyway, one night after a few beers


I
> tried it out and it was real good. It has a real big bowl and I got a good

> buzz on. That time I used tobacco taken out of cigarettes but after I
bought
> some proper pipe tobacco.
>

> Problem was that it took real long to smoke down, with the bowl being big
as

> I said. So one day I thought maybe I could burn the tobacco plug faster.
So,

> I drilled a real narrow hole in the base of the bowl (it was hard to do,
it
> was made of like stone or something) and connected up a small rubber tube
> with a small bleed of pure oxygen, we have some cannisters around for my

> mother's emphysema. After some practice adjusting the bleed rate I found
the
> plug could burn maybe 2 times faster than usual - one time I checked out
> the plug half-way through and it looked like it was burning from the
bottom
> of the bowl as well as at the top. I think also the burn temperature is
> higher so you get more aromatic taste in the smoke too.
>

> Maybe you guys would like to try the idea - I do not want to patent
> it or anything.
>
> Roy Grainger
>
>
>
>
>

Clive B

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YOU IDIOT ! WE HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO THAN READ THIS RUBBISH.

My mother is a circus artist and also a member of the Democratic Party, for
this reason when she draws on her pipe she is not allowed to inhale so she
breathes the smoke out into a bag and releases it in the wild.

Nonsense.

Roy G <roy_gr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> No, you are wrong, I don't steal oxygen from my mother, I pay her for it
$1
> per minute, plus I offered to let her have a draw on the pipe to if she
> wanted so she could get a double benefit (but she didn't want to - she is
a
> Mormon and also an practicing aromatherapist).
>
>

> Steve Thomas <sth...@penn.com> wrote in message
> news:3819e418...@news.penn.com...
> > Anton,
> >
> > On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 19:46:36 +0200, "Anton Botes" <ajb...@mweb.co.za>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Now why did the left side of my face start twitching when I read this
???
> > >I also found I was cringing in my chair.....
> >
> > because,
> >
> > >Roy G wrote in message <#okQ2tiI$GA.70@cpmsnbbsa02>...

> > Anyway, one night after a few beers
> > >I
> > >>tried it out and it was real good. It has a real big bowl and I got a
> good
> > >>buzz on.
> >

> > I think we have arrived at the crux of the matter. :-)
> >
> >

> > >>I drilled a real narrow hole in the base of the bowl (it was hard to
do,
> it
> > >>was made of like stone or something) and connected up a small rubber
> tube
> > >>with a small bleed of pure oxygen, we have some cannisters around for
my
> > >>mother's emphysema.
> > >>

> > >>Maybe you guys would like to try the idea - I do not want to patent
> > >>it or anything.
> >

FRED SCHNITZIUS

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you ARE kidding of course.....


Roy G

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I guess you think you are pretty funny making fun of me and my family like
that. You are anyway wrong, I do pay my mother, and I can prove it because
she keeps the receipts for tax purposes

Roy Grainger

Clive B <cli...@email.msn.com> wrote in message
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> No, you have caught me out, you are quite correct, I don't pay my mother
$1
> a minute for the oxygen - what I do is provide her with services to the
> value of $1 a minute, so like when she takes delivery of her aromatherapy
> oils I help her blend it with certain essential and secret components
> (vanilla essence and soy sauce) - this oil comes in 6 gallon drums so
> there's some heavy mixing work to do - I need a couple of draws on the
> turbo-pipe just to keep me going. Also, I think you may have misread the
> posts - it is my grandpop who was minus a leg, not the people posting
here.
>
>
> <ken...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:7vdr3d$t07$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> > In article <eL2uR8kI$GA.323@cpmsnbbsa05>,
> > "Roy G" <roy_gr...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > >No, you are wrong, I don't steal oxygen from my mother, I pay her for
> > >it $1 per minute, plus I offered to let her have a draw on the pipe to
> > >if she wanted so she could get a double benefit (but she didn't want to
> > >- she is a Mormon and also an practicing aromatherapist).
> >

Roger O Stein

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CLIVE - you have been warned before about polluting this group with your
foulmouthed and blasphemous comments - I see you need another lesson in
politeness - making fun of disabled people in your other post (Roy
Grainger's grandfather) is despicable. But in this post you have gone too
far - passing off an idea as your own when it is not is disgraceful - we all
know that this idea is being pioneered by a DISTINGUISHED regular
contributor to this forum.

http://www.huntersmall.com/watkins/duck.shtml

Clive B <cli...@email.msn.com> wrote in message

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> Hey people get real ! This guy can't be for real - anybody can write
rubbish
> like this ...
>
> I have developed a new pipe modification, it is a combined pipe and duck
> call, when you inhale it is a pipe, when you exhale it is a duck call, it
is
> useful for hunters as they can attract ducks and keep away mosquitos at
the
> same time. JEEZ PEOPLE, GET REAL !!!
>
>

> Roy G <roy_gr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:#okQ2tiI$GA.70@cpmsnbbsa02...
> > Hi guys (and gals maybe !), I thought I would tell you about a
> modification
> > to a pipe I have invented which is pretty neat - I wonder maybe if
anyone
> > else has tried it. I inherited a "meerschaum" type pipe from my
> grandfather
> > when he died, I think it is real old. First I just kept it but then I
got
> > wondering what it would be like to smoke it, but you know I sort of
didn't

> > want to smoke it because he was dead ? Anyway, one night after a few


beers
> I
> > tried it out and it was real good. It has a real big bowl and I got a
good

> > buzz on. That time I used tobacco taken out of cigarettes but after I
> bought
> > some proper pipe tobacco.
> >
> > Problem was that it took real long to smoke down, with the bowl being
big
> as
> > I said. So one day I thought maybe I could burn the tobacco plug faster.
> So,

> > I drilled a real narrow hole in the base of the bowl (it was hard to do,
> it
> > was made of like stone or something) and connected up a small rubber
tube
> > with a small bleed of pure oxygen, we have some cannisters around for my

> > mother's emphysema. After some practice adjusting the bleed rate I found
> the
> > plug could burn maybe 2 times faster than usual - one time I checked out
> > the plug half-way through and it looked like it was burning from the
> bottom
> > of the bowl as well as at the top. I think also the burn temperature is
> > higher so you get more aromatic taste in the smoke too.
> >

> > Maybe you guys would like to try the idea - I do not want to patent
> > it or anything.
> >

> > Roy Grainger
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Steve Thomas

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On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 22:12:45 +0100, "Roy G" <roy_gr...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Unfortunately what with his artificial limb (leg) and his life-long pacifism
>(except during wartime) he could try but it would not worry me too much.
>Plus he wouldn't know where I was living now.

I think it's time for the killfile.

Steve

Lance Sang

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Jim,
I had the address of the group that does the Darwin Awards, but I can't find
it.(Started, I believe, by a Canadian dentist).
Would you please post it, so that Roy may be nominated for the award?

Thanks,
Lance

Jim Beard <j...@blckhrse.clark.net> wrote in message
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Aaron_SG

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>Have you considered adding a nubbin?
>
>Bret
LOL! I was wondering when the nubbin idea was going to be introduced into
the thread!
Shame on you!

Aaron

Birdandcat

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Roy G

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Please do not talk about me as if I was not here, I am only doing my best to
further the cause of pipe technology. Do you think that man would have
walked on the moon and other planets if it was not for people like me
(similar, at least) ?

I think it is a pity you are only laughing at my idea - some other posters
have made fun of my family, I think this is very bad, my mother is an
aromatherapist and requires a calm atmosphere for her healing karma to
become active she says. If you read other posts you will see though that
some people think my idea is so good they are nominating it for an award
from Mr. Darwin, you can be sure that in my acceptance speech I'll point out
to him how many uninformed people laughed at my turbo-pipe invention. I
guess it was similar for many great inventors of the past, Eisenstein,
Hemmingway and so on.

Roy Grainger

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Joshua Rosenblatt

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ha ha ha ha ha ha he he ha ha ha he he he , tee hee....

Stop it already!! I can't breathe Im laughing so hard!!!!!!

This is better than any sitcom on TV..... I love it!!!!!!!

Joshua Rosenblatt

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this is my favorite post of ALL TIME on ASP........ pure genius!!!!!!

You go RoyG!!!!!!
ROFLMAO!!!!!!

Lance Sang

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Mike Gervais

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Roy,
A few details betray your ruse. Mormons (your mother) have no interest in
or acceptance in the notion of "karma". Also, your syntax and spelling are
just a bit too tidy for the character you portray, though you do
deliberately misspell the names of Einstein and Hemingway.
Thank you for so skillfully arousing the interest of this group. IMO you are
a master of comic understatement. If you really are a pipe smoker so much
the better. We've enjoyed your visit to our group.
Mike

Roy G wrote in message ...

baeo...@leru.net

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Somebody put a link to somewhere the Darwin awards can be found please.
I'm still having no luck finding them again.

Michael Brewington wrote:

> Actualy, Jim, all you have to do for the Darwin Award is to remove youself
> from the gene pool. Such as the man who replaced a blown fuse in his pickup
> truck with a .22 cartrage, blew his pee pee off. No kids for him.

--
'One of the reasons Arnie (Arnold Palmer) is playing so well is
that, before each tee-shot,
his wife takes out his balls and kisses them - Oh my God, what have
I just said?'
(USTV commentator)

Michael Brewington

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I should turn this off and go to bed, but this is just to damn good.
He drilled his grandfather's Meer and vented pure oxygen into the bowl. I'm
loving this.
Plane crashes ...oxygen masks.... Turbo-Pipes... It just dosen't get any
better than this.

But wait, I'm not nearly through reading the thread.... maybe it does.

Roy G <roy_gr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> You were never in science class, oxygen doesn't burn, you are thinking of
> hydrogen maybe, if oxygen burnt it would be pretty stupid of them to
release
> oxygen masks just before the plane was going to crash wouldn't it ? I'm
> sorry, nothing personal, but I don't think the group benefits from
> ill-informed posts like this. Actually, if the plane was going to crash


I'd
> rather they handed round my turbo-pipes (that is the name I'm using for
this
> product) to all the passengers to help them stay calm.
>
>

> Mingkahuna <mingk...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:19991029145814...@ng-cl1.aol.com...


> > Hmmmm, open flame around oxygen cannisters. You'd best start signing
your
> > posts "the soon to be late Roy Grainger."
> > Puff, puff. BOOM, BOOM.
> >

> > Buzz
>
>

Michael Brewington

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Actualy, Jim, all you have to do for the Darwin Award is to remove youself
from the gene pool. Such as the man who replaced a blown fuse in his pickup
truck with a .22 cartrage, blew his pee pee off. No kids for him.

Jim Beard <j...@blckhrse.clark.net> wrote in message
news:30237282...@blckhrse.clark.net...
> Ladies and Gentlemen of a.s.p.,
>
> As this young man is obviously striving earnestly for the Darwin Award,
> perhaps we should simply notify him that qualifying for the actual award
> actually involves, nay requires, a fatal mistake, and thus the winner will
> not be around to receive the posthumous prize. Those contending for the
> runner-up consolation prize are advised to have all premiums up to dat on
a
> generous medical insurance policy.
>
> On 29 Oct 1999, "Roy G" <roy_gr...@hotmail.com> wrote ...

> > You were never in science class, oxygen doesn't burn,
>

> Burning, conventional combustion, is nothing more than rapid exothermic
> oxidation of a suitable fuel, such as materials containing an abundance of
> carbon, hydrogen, and similar elements. Oxygen obviously cannot oxidize
> itself, but it can surely can do the trick on many other substances.
>

> > if oxygen burnt it would be pretty stupid of them to release
> > oxygen masks just before the plane was going to crash wouldn't it ?
>

> The oxygen masks are released only when the aircraft is at high altitude
> and cabin pressure drops to the point oxygen is required to sustain life
> and function of the human body. Due to the risk of fire, it would be nice
> to avoid use of high-purity oxygen even then, but it would accomplish
> little to avoid fire only to have everyone die of asphyxiation.
>

> > Actually, if the plane was going to crash I'd
> > rather they handed round my turbo-pipes (that is the name I'm using for
this
> > product) to all the passengers to help them stay calm.
>

> If the plane was going to crash, the last thing you would want to do would
> be hand out fire starters and bottles of high-purity oxygen. And in
> any case, this would violate the FAA ban on smoking aboard airliners, so
> legally and economically it would be a non-starter anyway.<grin>
>
> > Mingkahuna <mingk...@aol.com> wrote

> > > Hmmmm, open flame around oxygen cannisters. You'd best start signing
your
> > > posts "the soon to be late Roy Grainger."
> > > Puff, puff. BOOM, BOOM.
>

Michael Brewington

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Roy, you are just too good. I didn't know man had walked on any planets
(other than Earth), and I didn't know Albert or Ernest, invented anything.

If you win the Darwin Award for your Turbo-pipe, I suggest you write out
your acceptance speech.(In Advance).


Roy G <roy_gr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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ken...@my-deja.com

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In article <7vg1c4$rse$1...@bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net>,
"Lance Sang" <san...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>There is (was?) a site that had the citations for all the Darwin
>Awards of previous years; does anybody here have the address?
>
> Lance

I did a "Yahoo" search for "darwin+awards" and got a list of 20 sites;
I guess you want www.darwinawards.com or www.OfficialDarwinAwards.com
(same site, differant URL) or www.darwinawards.cjp.com.

Jeff Folloder

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baeo...@leru.net wrote:

> Somebody put a link to somewhere the Darwin awards can be found please.
> I'm still having no luck finding them again.

If you do a Yahoo! search, remember to use the boolean operators. The search
works best when it looks like this:

+darwin +awards

Anyway, here's the official site:
http://official.darwinawards.com/
--
Jeff Folloder

And God said, "Let there be light", and there was light.
And everyone said, "Hey, cool! Do you do parties?".

baeo...@leru.net

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Thanks:)

Jeff Folloder wrote:

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Ironman

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Do you guys have goats? I should say used to, because this guy has them
now.. Glad I have time to read the group again..

Mike

John Sandin

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In article <ueV1$ZwI$GA.52@cpmsnbbsa03>,

"Roy G" <roy_gr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Please do not talk about me as if I was not here, I am only doing my best to
> further the cause of pipe technology. Do you think that man would have
> walked on the moon and other planets if it was not for people like me
> (similar, at least) ?
>
> I think it is a pity you are only laughing at my idea - some other posters
> have made fun of my family, I think this is very bad, my mother is an
> aromatherapist and requires a calm atmosphere for her healing karma to
> become active she says. If you read other posts you will see though that
> some people think my idea is so good they are nominating it for an award
> from Mr. Darwin, you can be sure that in my acceptance speech I'll point out
> to him how many uninformed people laughed at my turbo-pipe invention. I
> guess it was similar for many great inventors of the past, Eisenstein,
> Hemmingway and so on.
>
> Roy Grainger


For the record, I think it's an interesting idea.

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Jeff Schwartz

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<baeo...@leru.net> wrote in message news:381C6442...@leru.net...
>snip...> 'One of the reasons Arnie (Arnold Palmer) is playing so well is

> that, before each tee-shot,
> his wife takes out his balls and kisses them - Oh my God, what have
> I just said?'
> (USTV commentator)

LOL!!! But not without washing them first, I hope. After all, one never
really knows where they have been :)
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SHO2n

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I read the whole (55 entry) thread on 11/8/99.
Now I'm disappointed that the ingenius yet addle-pated (though possibly
spurious or at least satirical) Mr Granger is now silent.
Perhaps his little gray cells are at work on another innovation no smoker can
live with!

Jeff Schwartz

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Or perhaps he is now "truly" worthy of the Darwin award :))

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John Fury

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Just wanted to bring this oldie but goodie back from the dead for some present laughs!

Can't take full credit though for its resurrection--a link was posted today on PM forum.

Happy New Year!

Furious

Bert Olton

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Hey John,

If you posted a URL link, it's not showing up.

Best regards,
Bert

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pacem para bellum. "Let's roll!"...Todd Beamer, United Airlines Flight
93, September 11, 2001.

bwithers

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Thanks for the resurrection, John! Funny stuff, indeed. -bw

mingk...@aol.com

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Pure classic ASP! Thanks.
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