My Mixture 965
Keith B. Rider
I am suprized to see fairly little mention of My Mixture 965 in this
group. The single best pipefull of tobacco that I have ever had was
my first bowl of 965, which was also my first latakia blend. The most
remarkable quality of this stuff is that it so easy to keep lit. I
smoked the whole bowl down to white ash with only 3 matches. It is
fairly dry and also finely cut, which explains its burning qualities,
but it did not burn hot or taste cigarish. (I find that when my pipe
gets too hot it tastes like a cigar) The best part, though, was the
taste. After smoking only aromatics for a year or so the earthy
richness of English tobacco was an eye opener. Anyone else have a
strong reaction to this blend?
Also, has anyone else noticed how many smoke shop owners steer people
away from English tobacco? When I go into a new shop I usualy ask
for a tour of the counter. Often I hear about all the flavored tobaccos
and then the owner waves at three or four humidors and says, "those
are English blends, stay away from them." Is this pretty common?
Keith
Louis J. Giliberto, Jr.
Keith B. Rider wrote:
>
> I am suprized to see fairly little mention of My Mixture 965 in this
> group. The single best pipefull of tobacco that I have ever had was
> my first bowl of 965, which was also my first latakia blend. The most
> remarkable quality of this stuff is that it so easy to keep lit. I
> smoked the whole bowl down to white ash with only 3 matches. It is
> fairly dry and also finely cut, which explains its burning qualities,
> but it did not burn hot or taste cigarish. (I find that when my pipe
> gets too hot it tastes like a cigar) The best part, though, was the
> taste. After smoking only aromatics for a year or so the earthy
> richness of English tobacco was an eye opener. Anyone else have a
> strong reaction to this blend?
I smoke 965 and other Dunhill blends and like them a lot. I find
English tobacco in general is easier to keep lit because it isn't
as moist as most aromatics probably because it doesn't contain
PG. If you like 965 also try Dunhill Standard Mixture Medium.
> Also, has anyone else noticed how many smoke shop owners steer people
> away from English tobacco? When I go into a new shop I usualy ask
> for a tour of the counter. Often I hear about all the flavored tobaccos
> and then the owner waves at three or four humidors and says, "those
> are English blends, stay away from them." Is this pretty common?
I don't know if it is common, but most people who never smoked before
like aromatics better. Also English blends can smell bad to
bystanders where aromatics generally smell good. I used to smoke
aromatics a year or two ago, but have given them up completely. My
tobacconist also smokes English blends, so he doesn't steer people
away from them, but he does recommend mild aromatics such as
Golden Cavendish to first-time pipe smokers. He also told
me he can always tell a newbie pipe smoker because they almost
always smoke some kind of cherry aromatic (probably because one
of their friend recommended it to them).
I have found, however, that the stinkiest thing in English
blends for me is Latakia. If I go with a blend that is
mild on Latakia or doesn't contain any, it doesn't offend
as much, and the wife lets me smoke it in the house ;)
-Louis
jon hollembaek
Keith B. Rider wrote:
>
> I am suprized to see fairly little mention of My Mixture 965 in this
> group. The single best pipefull of tobacco that I have ever had was
> my first bowl of 965, which was also my first latakia blend. The most
> remarkable quality of this stuff is that it so easy to keep lit. I
> smoked the whole bowl down to white ash with only 3 matches. It is
> fairly dry and also finely cut, which explains its burning qualities,
> but it did not burn hot or taste cigarish. (I find that when my pipe
> gets too hot it tastes like a cigar) The best part, though, was the
> taste. After smoking only aromatics for a year or so the earthy
> richness of English tobacco was an eye opener. Anyone else have a
> strong reaction to this blend?
>
> away from English tobacco? When I go into a new shop I usualy ask
> for a tour of the counter. Often I hear about all the flavored tobaccos
> and then the owner waves at three or four humidors and says, "those
> are English blends, stay away from them." Is this pretty common?
>
I'm a new pipe smoker and one of my favorites is 965. While still
experimenting heavily with new (to me) pipe tobaccos, I've found 965 &
Bengal Slices to be very good.
Could you recommend any other tobaccos, along these lines, to try?
Keith B. Rider
> experimenting heavily with new (to me) pipe tobaccos, I've found 965 &
> Bengal Slices to be very good.
> Could you recommend any other tobaccos, along these lines, to try?
Here in Albany, CA we have a very good tobaccanist called Drucquer &
Sons Ltd. They do their own hand blending and have a canning machine
right in the store. I went in last weekend and told them that I was
looking for a light English and was fond of 965. (965 is what I consider
a medium English, BTW) I was sold a bag of Arcadia Mixture, which is
tasty. It is a great shop and in the hope that they will continue to
prosper I will give a short, unsolicited plug for them.
They do mail order all over the world, so here are their address and
phone number:
1481 Solano Ave.
Albany, CA 94706
(510) 524-5682
Here are a couple of descriptions from the catalog:
FULL ENGLISH STYLE
Royal Ransom - Our fullest English blend and perfect for those who can
never find a blend full enough to satisfy them. A blend of Levantine
tobaccos laden with Latikia and a little Red Virginia, Royal Ransom
burns slow and cool. 4 oz. $8.60 8 oz. $14.35
LIGHT ENGLISH STYLE
Arcadia Mixture - A masterful blend of the finest Turkish and mellow
Red Virginias, with a delicate touch of fine mountain Latikia. The
Arcadia Mixture provides a naturally fragrant smoke with a touch
of sweetness. 4 oz. $7.50 8 oz. $12.38
Inns of the Court
This unique tobaccco has been one of Drucquer's best selling blends for
decades. A combination of bright black and brown Virginias, with
Carolina brown Burley, Latakia, Maryland and Perique, Inns of the
Court is a light blend that suits many palates.
4 oz. $7.50 8 oz. $12.38
So far I have only tried Arcadia and J.D.'s Bouquet, which is a Cavendish
and Burley blend. Both of these suit my taste and the Cavendish suits
my wife's nose. My next purchase there will be Inns of the Court.
If anyone tries (or has tried) any of Drucquer's blends, please post
your opinions here.
Keith
James D. Beard
On 28 Sep 1996, "Keith B. Rider" <kbr...@uclink4.berkeley.edu> wrote ...
>> I am suprized to see fairly little mention of My Mixture 965 in this
>> group.
My assessment of Dunhill tobaccos, in general, is that they are as
comfortable as an old shoe, and about as tasty. However, my son-in-law
recently bestowed on me some 965, and my only complaint is that it is
somewhat lacking in strength. Adding in some Latakia from John B. Hayes
(George's suggestion; not John's) brought the nicotine content up, but it
was still lacking in body. One of the fellows at Tobacco House in
Richmond suggested mixing it half and half with Nightcap, and that did do
the trick. I do not think I am going to give up G&H flake tobaccos for
it, but it is nice for variety.
>> Also, has anyone else noticed how many smoke shop owners steer people
>> away from English tobacco?
Tobacconists tend to steer newbies toward mild, heavily flavored tobaccos.
Perhaps they assume this will make it easier and more pleasurable (at
least for those around them), but I think it is a mistake. If the tobacco
is too mild, the new smoker will puff to hard, too fast, and the heat will
roast his tongue and mouth --- medium is better, and make that full
strength if the new pipe smoker is a (former or continuing) cigarette or
cigar smoker. And while flavor from the chemist's flask may initially be
engaging, the novelty will wear off and with it the desire to smoke such.
A good English tobacco will, over time, fare much better.
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In article <324C9B...@uclink4.berkeley.edu>, kbr...@uclink4.berkeley.edu says...
>
>I am suprized to see fairly little mention of My Mixture 965 in this
>my first bowl of 965, which was also my first latakia blend. The most
>remarkable quality of this stuff is that it so easy to keep lit. I
>smoked the whole bowl down to white ash with only 3 matches. It is
>fairly dry and also finely cut, which explains its burning qualities,
>but it did not burn hot or taste cigarish. (I find that when my pipe
>gets too hot it tastes like a cigar) The best part, though, was the
>taste. After smoking only aromatics for a year or so the earthy
>richness of English tobacco was an eye opener. Anyone else have a
>strong reaction to this blend?
It gets its share of attention off and on, but it's sufficiently well
known to most that it really doesn't need all that much. I agree,
965 is a very good tobak.
>Also, has anyone else noticed how many smoke shop owners steer people
>away from English tobacco? When I go into a new shop I usualy ask
>for a tour of the counter. Often I hear about all the flavored tobaccos
>and then the owner waves at three or four humidors and says, "those
>are English blends, stay away from them." Is this pretty common?
Fairly common, yes. Aromatics usually smell good to anyone around u,
whereas English and Virginia blends tend to produce frowns of disgust.
English blends are usually heavier than aromatics. Finally, if we
may make a comparison in the world of alcoholic beverages, aromatics
are the dacquiris, rum and cokes, gin and tonics, etc, while English
blends are the single malt scotches and Cognacs. The former are far
more accessible and popular than the latter.
>Keith
--
When people see an obstacle, some curse; some try to
figure out how to remove it...and a very few consider
how to use it to their advantage.
Craig Lewis
In article <324D38...@frontiernet.net>, jon...@frontiernet.net says...
>
>I'm a new pipe smoker and one of my favorites is 965. While still
>Bengal Slices to be very good.
>Could you recommend any other tobaccos, along these lines, to try?
Try Cornell & Diehl's 970P (net address often posted here, don't have
right now, or go to the pipes home page); McClelland's #14 (full,
spicy) or Bombay Extra (from their Personal Reserve series...rich,
earthy blend, very smooth); and Dunhill Nightcap.
Others worth trying:
Good medium strength blends: Dunhill Standard Medium and London Mixture
McClelland's Bombay Court
Cornell & Diehl 414P, 531P
Good light blends: Dunhill Standard Mild and Early Morning
For something different, you really should try matured virginias.
For a good introduction, McClelland's produces 3 or 4 (tins with
brown labels, numbered in the low 20's, as well as St. James Wood).
Finally, for something *completely* different: McClellands Frog
Morton. Full, rich, Latakia blend, completely unflavored...but
very sweet (in a good sense) taste. It's expensive, and may
not be easy to find, but VERY good. Bob Hamlin of PCCA has
Full Balkan Reserve and Winter 95 (maybe still available) that
are similarly styled, altho the FBR (which I'm smoking now) is
less intensely sweet, more spicy, than the other 2. Wonderful,
tho, all 3 blends. Check the pipes home page (www.pipes.com)
for a link to PCCA.
Experimentation is one of the great joys of pipe smoking.
I can heartily recommend doing 2 things:
#1: Go to Cornell & Diehl's web page, check out his list
of tobaks, then order up a sampler pack of what sounds good.
IIRC, 5 tobaks, 2 oz each, $15 or $18. WELL worth it.
The C&D tobaks are a GREAT buy; $15 per pound. The only
slight drawback is that they're not 'retailers', per se,
so, other than the samplers, they only sell in pound
increments.
#2: Go to the PCCA page, and look at Bob Hamlin's tobak
offerings. The PCCA tobaks are all limited or semi-limited
blendings, made by McClelland's. The prices are roughly
comparable to Dunhill or Bengal Slices, and the blends are,
IMO, of better quality.
BAZU
965 is in my opinion one of, if not the best tobacco there is! When I
first lit it up, I thought"what the hell is this stuff," and wondered if
my tobacconist was pulling a gag on me! But, I love the stuff. Absolutely.
Also try McClelland's #14 / Dunhill Nightcap. They are also good. I find
many tobacco clerks who are as you describe. The reason is that they are
not knowlegable about tobacco. Almost all the real pipe smokers that I
know prefer English/Oriental, or matured Virginia blends. But to each his
own.If a man likes an aromatic, more power to him. I always recommend
The natural tobaccos, without flavorings added. Most try good tobaccos and
they are sold! Happy Smoke! Larry B.
bazu
Samardzich
Keith B. Rider wrote:
>
> I am suprized to see fairly little mention of My Mixture 965 in this
> group. The single best pipefull of tobacco that I have ever had was
> my first bowl of 965, which was also my first latakia blend. The most
> remarkable quality of this stuff is that it so easy to keep lit. I
> smoked the whole bowl down to white ash with only 3 matches. It is
> fairly dry and also finely cut, which explains its burning qualities,
> but it did not burn hot or taste cigarish. (I find that when my pipe
> gets too hot it tastes like a cigar) The best part, though, was the
> taste. After smoking only aromatics for a year or so the earthy
> richness of English tobacco was an eye opener. Anyone else have a
> strong reaction to this blend?
>
> away from English tobacco? When I go into a new shop I usualy ask
> for a tour of the counter. Often I hear about all the flavored tobaccos
> and then the owner waves at three or four humidors and says, "those
> are English blends, stay away from them." Is this pretty common?
>
Keith,
I worked at a pipe shop for 17 years and yes it is common. The last
thing a tobacconist wants is to turn off a customer. The vast majority
of pipe smokers and non-smokers, turn up thier noses at the first whiff
of an 'English' blend.
Most new smokers may find the taste too strong, not harsh, but too
strong for their inexperianced palates. Some can start enjoying a good
English, but again, most cannot.
In this age of overly sensitive noses, the aromatics at least seem to be
less offensive to the masses. Often spouses force pipe smokers into an
aromatic blend. I've seen couples get in scream fights right in the
store over the choice of a blend!
You shouldn't take offense, it's just the conditioning that a
tobacconist gets from the sheer number of folks that wander into the
shop.
Smoke in peace,
Wayne
Thorsten Kramp
Keith B. Rider wrote:
>
> I am suprized to see fairly little mention of My Mixture 965 in this
> group. The single best pipefull of tobacco that I have ever had was
> my first bowl of 965, which was also my first latakia blend. The most
> remarkable quality of this stuff is that it so easy to keep lit. I
> smoked the whole bowl down to white ash with only 3 matches. It is
> fairly dry and also finely cut, which explains its burning qualities,
> but it did not burn hot or taste cigarish. (I find that when my pipe
> gets too hot it tastes like a cigar) The best part, though, was the
> taste. After smoking only aromatics for a year or so the earthy
> richness of English tobacco was an eye opener. Anyone else have a
> strong reaction to this blend?
>
> Also, has anyone else noticed how many smoke shop owners steer people
> away from English tobacco? When I go into a new shop I usualy ask
> for a tour of the counter. Often I hear about all the flavored tobaccos
> and then the owner waves at three or four humidors and says, "those
> are English blends, stay away from them." Is this pretty common?
>
> Keith--------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm a new pipe smoker and one of my favorites is 965. While still
experimenting heavily with new (to me) pipe tobaccos, I've found 965 &
Bengal Slices to be very good.
Could you recommend any other tobaccos, along these lines, to try?
"Mr. Alfred's Own" is my preferred Dunhill mixture even though it's only
available at their shop in London or via mail order.
Best, Thorsten
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Brian R. Oldham
In article <27219571...@blckhrse.clark.net>, "James D. Beard" (j...@blckhrse.clark.net) writes:
>On 28 Sep 1996, "Keith B. Rider" <kbr...@uclink4.berkeley.edu> wrote ...
>
>
>>> Also, has anyone else noticed how many smoke shop owners steer people
>>> away from English tobacco?
>
> Perhaps they assume this will make it easier and more pleasurable (at
>least for those around them), but I think it is a mistake. If the tobacco
>is too mild, the new smoker will puff to hard, too fast, and the heat will
>roast his tongue and mouth --- medium is better, and make that full
>strength if the new pipe smoker is a (former or continuing) cigarette or
>cigar smoker. And while flavor from the chemist's flask may initially be
>engaging, the novelty will wear off and with it the desire to smoke such.
>A good English tobacco will, over time, fare much better.
>
We get light tobaccos here too (England), as well as the heavier
natural mixtures, and some light but heavily flavoured stuff. It's my
guess, from the way the tobacco jars are stacked in my favourite
tobacco shop, that the flavoured varieties are 'pushed' and perhaps
even demanded more than the unflavoured ones. From the large number of
proprietary brands available I would say that mixures containing Burley
are among the most popular (though not with me I hasten to add). I
agree with the poster above (Jim?). Light tobaccos seem to burn fast
and hot and make the inside of your mouth sore in return for very
little satisfaction. Those foreign, unnatural flavours just make me
want to spit it out. I can't believe that these artificial concoctions
make the best introduction to pipe smoking.
Seems to me that most of these tobacco retailers (here as well as
over there) are not pipe smokers themselves, else they would not make
such bad marketing judgments.
---
Brian Oldham
Nottingham UK
Depatgrey
>My next purchase there will be Inns of the Court.
I used to smoke that. I won't say it was perfect. But it was the best one
I could find for my first 5 or 6 years smoking a pipe. I tried everything.
The English tobaccos were too rich to smoke more than once a day. It was
a satisfying smoke. I did't know that it had perique in it. It has a
slight tangy taste to it. I don't need to get hit over the head with
latakia. There is just enough in it to make it very slightly smoky. Just
enough burley to put some edge on it so you could relax and enjoy it. It
is a comforting and reassuring smoke. I used to love it. You made me
think about ordering a pound.
Dennis
RRGaskins
i really liked Dunhill's #965 and found that i liked Cornell & Diehls #965
even better .... to me it has a livelier, more complex flavor.
rick
Kevin Parent
965 is by far my favorite tobacco ever, although I do occasionally buy
Nightcap and London Mixture. 965 is most commonly found in my bowl
though; I just sometimes need variety sometimes to remind me how great
it is.
Incidently, I usually buy it at a local Tinder Box where the former
owner was himself a Dunhil Tobacco devotee. When I first started
smoking about 8 or 9 years ago, I asked him for a recommendation, and
he suggested the popular Tinder Box aromatics (North Sea, North Star
something like that). Apparently, he thought any Latakia blend would
be too much for a newbie, and he was quite right. I couldn't stand the
stuff when I eventually tried it, and couldn't believe people actually
smoked it.
Kevin Cook
Kevin Parent (ke...@netnitco.net) wrote:
: 965 is by far my favorite tobacco ever, although I do occasionally buy
Interestingly enough, as a newbie,in contrast to your situation, i didn't
REALLY get into pipe smoking until I tried a couple of the English blends.
The first one wasn't heavy enough to make me say "wow" but the second one
I tried was.
The sweeeter blends that I had been told to smoke were OK, but all the
flavourings and such had a sort of novelty character to me, but didn't
really compel me to smoke a pipe. I still smoke the occasional aromatic
anyway, perhaps for novelty value, I don't know, but the English blends
have a kind of sustaining power for me that I identified right away...
just my 2 cents..
Kevin
--
Life is a test
Kevin Cook,
Computer animator, Cincinnati/Montreal
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SSmith62
Just wanted to add my own $.02 worth. I don't have a lot of experience
with Dunhill blends, but one blend of their's that I'm very fond of is
their "London Mixture", the one that comes in the red can. Good rich
Latakia blend. Better, than 965, IMHO.
While on the subject as to why new pipe smokers seem to gravitate to
aromatics, see if this experience of mine rings a bell:
When I first decided to smoke a pipe, I went to my local mall tobacconist.
There I beheld a long row of glass jars, each of which contained one of
the tobacconist's house blends (probably made by Lane). So I did what
every budding pipe smokes does: I proceeded to stick my nose in each and
every jar to determine which blend was the "right" one. Each one was an
aromatic except the one on the end. So my reaction to each blend was
"hmm, smells good". When I got to that jar on the end, the one that
contained the Burley-Virginia-Latakia-Turkish-Perique blend, billed as
"The perfect introduction to the English pipe smoking tradition", my
reaction was "oh my God, this stuff smells like sh*t!" A natural reaction
considering the number of candied tobaccos I had just smelled. (It's
actually not a half bad blend).
I believe this is how newbies get stuck in the aromatic funnel. There was
simply no one to steer me in the right direction. The "tobacconist" was
simply the store manager: he recommended I start with Captain Black. In
retrospect, it's amazing I ever stayed with it. A genuine tobacconist
will steer the new pipe smoker to English blends, where the taste, and
therefore the overall experience, is far superior to anything offered by
aromatics.
Interestingly, I now love the smell and aroma of English blends, and
wonder how I could have originally found them distasteful.
Steve Smith
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cherry-wood pipe which was wont to replace his clay when he was in a
disputacious rather than a meditative mood" -- Dr. John H. Watson
Marty Albert
ghi...@CAM.ORG (Kevin Cook) wrote:
>just my 2 cents..
>Kevin
I started off 25 years ago with Sail Green (do they still make that
stuff?) but after about 2 months, I was ready for a real tabac as
opposed to the "drug store" stuff...
The local Tinder Box was my next stop... I picked, based totally on
smell, Philosopher and loved that. After a couple of months, the TB
manager suggested Dunhill 965 and I was hooked.
Other than the occasional diversion with various aromatics, 965 has
been my favorite ever since.
Sadly, when my wife and I got together 9 years back, it was found that
she can't tolerate the 965. So, I fell back to an old standby... How
many recall Tinder Box's "House Blend"? All it was is a 50%/50% mix of
Captain Spice and Anniversary (cherry). I started smoking that blend
until I moved to an area where the nearest TB is some 3 hours+
drive....
Less than a hour away is a Mom and Pop pipe shop that has the exact
same tabacs as the TB blends (they call them Alamo and Sweet Cherry
but all are made by Lane, Ltd.) and mix that up.
It ain't 965 but it ain't bad!
I still keep 965 around for when I'm outside or what-ever and still
love it... I have a "special" group of pipes just for the 965 so they
won't be tainted by the lowly aromatics.
For those who have never tried an English, if it is still made, I
would suggest Tinder Box's "Sherlock's Choice".... Mild, not too
heavy, but still a nice starter English blend.
>--
>Life is a test
And I am flunking.
>Kevin Cook,
>Computer animator, Cincinnati/Montreal
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Kevin
ma...@trucom.com (Marty Albert) wrote:
>For those who have never tried an English, if it is still made, I
>would suggest Tinder Box's "Sherlock's Choice".... Mild, not too
>heavy, but still a nice starter English blend.
It's still made, as is the afore-mentioned Philosopher. They were the
first English blends I tried about eight years ago. I've tried them
both recently, and they're still quite good. Not 965, but still good
puffs.
Steve
After all the discussion of 965 in the group, I thought I would go out
and try some. I like english mixtures, and straight virginias, the
occasional aromatic, and I'm not new to pipes. I liked 965, but it had
too much bite.( and no, I wasn't smoking it too fast, etc). So I moved
on to Georgetown Tobaccos Old Georgetown blend, which provided me with
all the "english" I needed, but no bite. Also, I tried Bengal Slices -
wonderful stuff! I was amazed at how smooth it is. So - my question is
this - is there anything I might cut 965 with to give it a little less
bite (just to rescue the big tin I have, not as a full time thing) or
should I just forget it and move on to other english blends.?
steve L.
James D. Beard
Dunhill 965 mixed with Nightcap, fifty-fifty, not only will have a little
less bite but will have a bit better strength than 965 alone. But perhaps
you should try Nightcap by itself first. You might not want to alter it...
On 15 Oct 1996, Steve <doug...@erols.com> wrote ...
Brian R. Oldham
>On 15 Oct 1996, Steve <doug...@erols.com> wrote ...
>> After all the discussion of 965 in the group, I thought I would go out
>> and try some.
[snip]
In article <28941022...@blckhrse.clark.net>, "James D. Beard"
(j...@blckhrse.clark.net) writes:
>Dunhill 965 mixed with Nightcap, fifty-fifty, not only will have a little
>less bite but will have a bit better strength than 965 alone. But perhaps
>you should try Nightcap by itself first. You might not want to alter it...
>
I never tried this 965 either - but I intend to. I shall call on my
tobacconist this weekend. I have no idea what to expect but I'll
decide on a 'mixer' after I've tried it. I currently smoke a flake
which I buy loose (rather than a proprietary brand) called Grand Cut.
It is heavy and rather hard to keep alight so I mix it, about 4:1,
with a light fast burning brand from Ogden's called Gold Block.
Ogden's of Liverpool are now part of the UK Imperial Group (who also
swallowed up Players of Nottingham) and are responsible for well known
UK brands such as St. Bruno, Walnut Flake, Capstan, Gold Block, Three
nuns, Player's Navy Cut, Digger and Whiskey.
Can you get Player's tobaccos in the USA? Player's factory used to be
in Nottingham but went the way of many tobacco firms. I don't know if
they (Ogden's) still do it but all packs of Player's tobacco used to
have a picture of Nottingham Castle on the back.
Steve
James D. Beard wrote:
>
> Dunhill 965 mixed with Nightcap, fifty-fifty, not only will have a little
Thanks, I'll try that. My first interest is not wasting my 100g (minus
a few bowls worth) tin of 965. I do intend also to try Nightcap by
itself and see what that's like.
happy smoking
steve L.
Erik Astrup
On Wed, 16 Oct 1996 08:54:06 -0700, Steve <doug...@erols.com> wrote:
>Thanks, I'll try that. My first interest is not wasting my 100g (minus
>a few bowls worth) tin of 965. I do intend also to try Nightcap by
>itself and see what that's like.
Who carries 965? Only tobac shops?
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Brwencino
Try Dunhill's Nightcap. I find it has less bite than 965 and is a very
satisfying latikea and perique tobacco.
Brwencino
Kevin Cook
Marty Albert (ma...@trucom.com) wrote:
: ghi...@CAM.ORG (Kevin Cook) wrote:
: >--
: >Life is a test
: And I am flunking.
With me it varies from month to month :)
: >Kevin Cook,
: >Computer animator, Cincinnati/Montreal
: ><http://www.cam.org/~ghislai> <ghi...@cam.org>
: hmmm.... If you animate a computer, won't it walk off the desk?
Actually, you're right, sometimes it does, which explains why for the time
being I can't work at home and must work out of a "smoke-free" university
lab...... :)
: Take Care!
: Marty Albert - ma...@trucom.com
--
Life is a test
Kevin Cook,
Urs Grob
In Article <326604e...@hermes.dna.mci.com>, eas...@mother.com (Erik
Astrup) wrote:
>[del]
>Who carries 965? Only tobac shops?
Here in Switzerland you can actually find it in some supermarkets
(honestly!) but I certainly prefer the occasional chat with my local
tobacconist.
Urs
jon hollembaek
Erik Astrup wrote:
>
> On Wed, 16 Oct 1996 08:54:06 -0700, Steve <doug...@erols.com> wrote:
>
> >Thanks, I'll try that. My first interest is not wasting my 100g (minus
> >a few bowls worth) tin of 965. I do intend also to try Nightcap by
> >itself and see what that's like.
>
>
> Erik Astrup - Team Iguana Racing (Ret)
> '89 Honda Transalp "Jekyll" '95 Triumph Tiger "Hyde"
> Keeper of the Transalp Mailing List
> http://www.mother.com/~eastrup/home.htm
JR Tobacco, $3.75 a 50 g. tin. They also carry many of the other Dunhills
along with Ratray, MacBaren, Bengal Slices, etc., etc.
Brian R. Oldham
In article <ugrob.11...@news.unizh.ch>, Urs Grob (ug...@rzu.unizh.ch) writes:
>In Article <326604e...@hermes.dna.mci.com>, eas...@mother.com (Erik
>Astrup) wrote:
>>[del]
>
>(honestly!) but I certainly prefer the occasional chat with my local
>tobacconist.
>
>Urs
>
Lucky You. Aren't your smoking laws a bit easier than ours in Britain
and in the USA? I mean they can still sell tobacco just about anywhere
in der Schweiz can't they? In Britain, some supermarkets have kiosks
where you can get the more popular brands, but you'd still have to go
to a proper tobacconist for 965.
---
Brian Oldham
Nottingham UK
!.............................Gesundbrunnen
Ron Krob
Brian R. Oldham wrote:
>
> >On 15 Oct 1996, Steve <doug...@erols.com> wrote ...
> >> After all the discussion of 965 in the group, I thought I would go out
> >> and try some.
> [snip]
>
> In article <28941022...@blckhrse.clark.net>, "James D. Beard"
> (j...@blckhrse.clark.net) writes:
> >you should try Nightcap by itself first. You might not want to alter it...
> >
>
> I never tried this 965 either - but I intend to. I shall call on my
> tobacconist this weekend. I have no idea what to expect but I'll
> decide on a 'mixer' after I've tried it. I currently smoke a flake
> which I buy loose (rather than a proprietary brand) called Grand Cut.
> It is heavy and rather hard to keep alight so I mix it, about 4:1,
> with a light fast burning brand from Ogden's called Gold Block.
>
> Ogden's of Liverpool are now part of the UK Imperial Group (who also
> swallowed up Players of Nottingham) and are responsible for well known
> UK brands such as St. Bruno, Walnut Flake, Capstan, Gold Block, Three
> nuns, Player's Navy Cut, Digger and Whiskey.
>
> Can you get Player's tobaccos in the USA? Player's factory used to be
> in Nottingham but went the way of many tobacco firms. I don't know if
> they (Ogden's) still do it but all packs of Player's tobacco used to
> have a picture of Nottingham Castle on the back.
>
>
> ---
> Brian Oldham
your area....but that's a bit off topic. More to the point, I hear this
talkabout Mixture 965 and would love to try it but I have to know...are we
talking about the Dunhill's Mixture 965? I understand there is at least one
other tobacconist using that designation.
Ron
Urs Grob
>>>Who carries 965? Only tobac shops?
>>
>>Here in Switzerland you can actually find it in some supermarkets
>>(honestly!) but I certainly prefer the occasional chat with my local
>>tobacconist.
>>
>>Urs
>
>Lucky You. Aren't your smoking laws a bit easier than ours in Britain
>and in the USA? I mean they can still sell tobacco just about anywhere
>in der Schweiz can't they? In Britain, some supermarkets have kiosks
>where you can get the more popular brands, but you'd still have to go
>to a proper tobacconist for 965.
>---
>Brian Oldham
>Nottingham UK
>!.............................Gesundbrunnen
I don't really know about the smoking related laws in Switzerland but
considering the fact that tobacco is being sold in supermarkets,
minimarkets, kiosks and even in mensas/canteens things seem to be a bit
different in Switzerland than in Britain and the USA. But don't be mislead
by my remark; Dunhill Early Morning and 965 are the only high grade pipe
tobaccos you can buy in supermarkets. The other stuff is mainly of type
Amphora, Borkum Riff etc. And yes, there are some swiss made brands too,
like for example "Tee-Tabak" (tea tobacco!) and other mixtures invented
dozens of years ago that still must be smoked by some daring devotees.
Happy puffin'
Urs
Justified Elder of Mu Mu
Ron Krob (ron...@earthlink.net) wrote:
: > Nottingham UKYou are from Nottingham? I would love to visit Great Britain, especially
: your area....but that's a bit off topic. More to the point, I hear this
: talkabout Mixture 965 and would love to try it but I have to know...are we
: talking about the Dunhill's Mixture 965? I understand there is at least one
: other tobacconist using that designation.
: Ron
For what it's worth, my take on Dunhill's 965 is that is somkes very well,
but is very strong - an English English. The tin I bought is smaller than
the tin for Dunhill Early Morning Pipe though the cost ran about the same.
SSmith62
In article <326A86...@earthlink.net>, Ron Krob <ron...@earthlink.net>
writes:
> More to the point, I hear this
>talkabout Mixture 965 and would love to try it but I have to know...are
we
>talking about the Dunhill's Mixture 965? I understand there is at least
one
>other tobacconist using that designation.
You're probably thinking of Cornell & Diehl's 965 aka "Tuggle Hall". This
is not a coincidence: Tuggle Hall is meant to be a match to Dunhill 965.
Many in this group find C&D's 965 to be less harsh than Dunhill's. There
is one fairly significant difference in the C&D blend, but I can't for the
life of me remember what it is. |>(
FWIW, 965 is not my favorite blend from either company. From Dunhill I
recomend London Mixture; from C&D I recomend Pirate Kake.