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Toren Smith

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Feb 18, 2001, 5:25:34 AM2/18/01
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Looking for info here...
Last year I got a nice and not very expensive pipe from the Dan Pipe
catalog. It's a "Mastro Geppetto Rusticato 04" in a 1/2 bent stacked
pot shape. It's black rusticated, with a smooth red-stained rim
loaded with bird's-eyes. The stem has a silver metal logo, a
Pinocchio head. There is also a thick cast silver band with a "Jiminy
Cricket" design.
It's very well-made, with an excellent and very comfortable stem, and
it smokes great (got a bowl of 1792 smouldering it it as I type). I'd
like to get another, but the brand seens to have disappeared from the
Dan Pipe catalog and I have not come across it elsewhere.
Anyone have the scoop on these?
Thanks;
--Toren

Tarek Manadily

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Feb 18, 2001, 6:24:44 AM2/18/01
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Okay Toren, here I go.

Now, you must have bought the pipe from the 1999 catalog. It is called
"Corteccia" and sold DM 285.00 (article no. 1003-4).

Years ago (1998), and due to his being unable to continue his Ser Jacopo
pipe supply to Dan Pipe, Giancarlo Guidi, started making a limited edition
brand, called Mastro Geppetto (based on Pinocchio), which was intended at
that point for the German (Dan Pipe) market. Later he ran into trouble with
Mastro De Paja, due to the use of the word "Mastro". That was dropped, and
later, because of other distribution problems, supply to Dan Pipe was
stopped altogether. AFAIK, a dozen of those pipes were sent to the USA.
Due the name problem, and other circumstances, the series "Geppetto" was
introduced into the USA, in the shapes you find today.

So, all you can find today is the Geppetto series distributed by M.A. This
means that your pipe is a collector's item.

Tarek
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Jim Anderson

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Feb 18, 2001, 6:33:20 AM2/18/01
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Yours sounds like one of the earlier pipes, the current line can be found
at:
http://www.serjacopo.com/
These are now called Gepetto, and retail for $150 US.

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Vincent Tsai

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Feb 18, 2001, 6:50:32 AM2/18/01
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Dear Mr. Smith,

I have some second hand info. Mastro Geppetto= Geppetto! When Ser Jacopo
introduced the new rusticate line to compete with Don Carlos R grade, they
used a silver Pinocchio head for the logo and called the line Mastro
Geppetto since Geppetto is Pinocchio's father (can't believe I still
remember this). Few years later, they dropped the "Mastro". I guess they
think "Ser Jacopo is not a Mastro" :)

Ok, that's all I know, have fun in Japan!

Vincent Tsai (still smoking Peace "cigarette")

Tarek Manadily

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Feb 18, 2001, 6:48:23 AM2/18/01
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I wonder why the discrepancy in the spelling of Gepetto versus the correct
version "Geppetto". It's either a serious spelling mistake or a later
conflict of name (the one for Dan Pipe and the one for the US). I would say
it is the former, since the name is clearly associated with the Pinocchio
story on M.A.'s site!

Only Rob Siegel can explain this one.

I bet Pinocchio is turning in his grave ;-)

Now, here is a little insight. In "Fiorentino" (of Florence, where the
story writer was from) Italian, the word "geppa" means "long chin", and
Mastro Geppetto did indeed have a long chin, and hence his name.

Maybe they should have Americanized the name even more by calling the series
"Jaylenno" (after Jay Leno).

Tarek
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Tarek Manadily

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Feb 18, 2001, 6:51:25 AM2/18/01
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Hi Vicent,

I do not think it had to do anything with competition, let alone of the DC
rusticated line. The original "Mastro Geppetto" included three finishes:
"Liscia" (smooth natural), "Rosso" (red), and "Corteccia" (rusticated).

Tarek
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Toren Smith

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Feb 18, 2001, 9:33:02 AM2/18/01
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On Sun, 18 Feb 2001 12:24:44 +0100, "Tarek Manadily"
<ta...@theitalianpipe.com> wrote:

>Okay Toren, here I go.

I should have known that YOU'D know, Tarek! LOL!
I wondered about the "Gepetto" connection, but those pipes are nowhere
near as nice as the one I got, so I wanted to check.
Well, I'll enjoy this one and bless my good luck!
And thanks to everyone else who chimed in--asking this group for
information is like taking your finger out of a dike! ;-)
Best;
--Toren

saidlin

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Feb 18, 2001, 11:29:21 AM2/18/01
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What is your opinion of the Gepetto pipes- workmanship and smoking
quality?

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Toren Smith

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Feb 18, 2001, 11:53:10 PM2/18/01
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On Sun, 18 Feb 2001 16:29:21 GMT, "saidlin" <sai...@home.com> wrote:

> What is your opinion of the Gepetto pipes- workmanship and smoking
>quality?

First, we have to be fair, here--the Gepetto are a cheaper pipe than
the Mastro Geppetto.
That said, I have never smoked one of the new Gepettos. I've looked
at them and they have several very attractive shapes and finishes, and
seem to be quite well-made for the price, especially considering it is
not unusual to find them at a discount from retail as well.
I'd call them worth a try, but I'd be interested to hear from anyone
who has actually smoked one...or a few.
--Toren

wh...@wavetech.net

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Feb 19, 2001, 1:07:57 AM2/19/01
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Here is the information that I know about these pipes. I helped develop the
gepetto line with Rob Siegel of Marble Arch. I think Tarek is correct on
most of the things that he said. I remember Rob telling me that Ser Jacopo
developed the original line for Dan Pipe to give them an exclusive pipe
line. They made up boxes and sleeves and sent Dan Pipe 50 or so pipes for
the original order. Apparently they were not able to move many pipes and
never ordered more pipes. I had been encouraging Rob to get a lower price
pipe line together from Ser Jacopo. Giancarlo from Ser Jacopo suggested
because they already had boxes, sleeves, logos, and stamps that the line be
named Gepetto. It would speed up the process to bring the new line to
market. We decided to drop the Mastro part of the name so that there
wouldn't be any confusion with Mastro De Paja pipes. The original set of
samples came in with the old Dan Pipe stampings. When the shapes were
finalized a new stamp was made in the arched word Gepetto. I assume when the
boxes and sleeves run out they will be replaced with the current Gepetto
logos.


Rich Lewis
Lewis Pipe & Tobacco
512 Nicollet Ave
Minneapolis, Mn. 55402
612.332.9129


Tyghbn1026197562

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Feb 19, 2001, 6:19:01 AM2/19/01
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>I'd call them worth a try, but I'd be interested to hear from anyone
>who has actually smoked one...or a few.

I have two of the current "Gepetto" pipes from Ser Jacopo, the large bent
sitter (shape 13) and the bulldog.

Both are excellent smokers. The workmanship is great, and both pass the
pipecleaner test (even though they're drilled with straight drill bits rather
than with the curving bit that's used so often on Ser Jacopo pipes).

I have six other Ser Jacopo pipes in my collection. I find that the Gepettos
are as good as the other Ser Jac's in smoking quality.

There's a good article at www.serjacopo.com detailing the differences between
the Gepettos and the regular Ser Jac line.

Be well.
Dave

Jim Anderson

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Feb 19, 2001, 6:44:23 AM2/19/01
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I have two of these, the panel billiard and the bulldog/Rhodesian. neither
of these qualify as light pipes, both are heavy, but to be fair they contain
a ton of wood!
That's the downside, everything else I could say would be very positive.
(and to be fair, I've handled some of the other shapes, and many are
smaller, and much lighter pipes.)
Jim

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Sal Sauco

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Feb 19, 2001, 6:42:01 PM2/19/01
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I just recently broke in a Gepetto #310 bent bulldog. It smokes as well as
my Ser Jacopo and was just as easy to break in. The workmanship is excellent
and it is a very impressive looking and smoking pipe. It does pass the
pipe-cleaner test. The bit is very well done and, on this model, wide and
comfortable. All in all, exceptional. The only negative is that the pipe
seemed to whistle a little before I first smoked it. It seems just fine now.
Sal Sauco :-)_y~

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