Well this explains a lot
Ken Dixon
about the risk of severe mental health problems, the Food and Drug
Administration announced Wednesday.
The FDA said Chantix and Zyban will carry the warnings to alert
consumers to the risks of depression and suicidal thoughts when using
the drugs.
The drugs also have been reported to cause changes in behavior,
hostility and agitation in users, whether users had a history of
psychiatric illness or not. In many cases, side effects started shortly
after use began and ended when the medication was stopped. The FDA does
not know what is causing the changes and said people taking these
products should be monitored by their doctor.
for the rest go
http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/07/01/fda.anti.smoking.drugs/index.html
WoodyG
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I'm sure they would be much more relaxed and sociable if they would kick
back 2 or 3 times a day with a good amoke.
Woody
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Mitch@_._
to deal with everything.
Those things are from Satan.
They messed me up BAD. And the withdrawal, even controlled, was one
of the worst experiences of my life.
I don't want to make a blanket statement, because I suppose drugs that
mess with brain chemistry help people. But WOW. That was a terrible
experience that ended with a deputy standing in my bedroom asking if I
was still alive
Joe
Did you shoot the Sheriff? ;-)
(Sorry, not trying to make light of your past situation, but I
generally joke about just about everything. Not sure how sensitive
you are to such things...)
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time..." - Danny, American History X
Briarroot
I just *love* how deeply 'concerned' the FDA is over the side-effects of
the drugs they're supposed to be regulating. "Talk to your doctor." Duh.
Apparently the FDA thinks the possibility of depression and suicide is
far less dangerous than smoking tobacco - the morons! And now this same
bunch has been charged with regulating tobacco. Gee, doesn't that just
make you feel so safe and secure? <snort> :-/
Regards,
Tim Parker ... Butera Royal Vintage: Golden Cake in a Barling billiard
--
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Nick
Jeff Folloder (TES)
> On 2009-07-02, Mitch@_._ <Mitch@_._> wrote:
>
>>After my wife's brain explosion, my doctor put me on anti-depressants
>>to deal with everything.
>>
>>Those things are from Satan.
>>They messed me up BAD. And the withdrawal, even controlled, was one
>>of the worst experiences of my life.
>>
>>I don't want to make a blanket statement, because I suppose drugs that
>>mess with brain chemistry help people. But WOW. That was a terrible
>>experience that ended with a deputy standing in my bedroom asking if I
>>was still alive
>
>
> Did you shoot the Sheriff? ;-)
>
> (Sorry, not trying to make light of your past situation, but I
> generally joke about just about everything. Not sure how sensitive
> you are to such things...)
>
Nah... Just the deputy.
Seriously... AD's and their related meds are quite powerful. Their use,
IMO, should be much more carefully administered by medical
professionals. That means I advocate much more stringent medical
monitoring of patient progress to make sure that the meds are working
correctly. Far too many docs prescribe these things in a standardized
manner that can easily be wrong for many of their patients. AD's are
probably much to commonly prescribed. But when the use is indicated,
they can provide enormous relief.
As for getting off of them... The previous poster is right. It can be
one of the most agonizing experiences you'll ever have. Messing with
brain chemistry requires adjustment. I was taken off one AD and put on
another for the treatment of my neuropathy. Yikes!
Thank goodness I had my pipe.
--
Jeff Folloder
The Elitist Snob since... Cripes! I forgot!
http://blog.folloder.com
Jeff Folloder (TES)
> The drugs are basically anti-d's right?
They are in the broad class of drugs named anti depressants. That name
is a misnomer, though. This class of drugs works by regulating various
neurotransmitters. The release, uptake, re-uptake of things like
seratonin (but not just that). They were originally formulated to treat
depression, but those neuortransmitters are involved with so much more
than mood. Regulating them can help with chronic pain management,
addiction, and so much more. Part of the "problem" with using these
drugs is that they are incorrectly classified as anti-depressants!
You have somebody who has panic disorder, addiction, fibromyalgia, or
any of a host of other issues and the doc prescribes, say, Lyrica.
Lyrica is used to tread some forms of depression, but it's also used to
treat some forms of pain. The pain sufferer sees that it is an AD and
doesn't want the stigma of an AD, so they do not follow through with the
therapy. All because of a name.
And then you have docs who throw this class of drugs at their patients
as a panacea without taking time to really tailor the regimen to the
specific patient... unnecessary side effcts occur because of this
hurried, cavalier approach. Ugh.
Coolmojo
inhibitor and wasn't an anti depressant prescribed off label.
Either way, almost my entire family are cigarette smokers and when the
schip tax hit they all tried to quit, about half of them got a
prescription for Chantix...none of them finished the prescription.
They all said it worked great, you didn't want a smoke and if you did it
didn't matter cause it didn't feel like smoking when you lit up, it was
just bland and no satisfaction.
The downside was they all couldn't tell when they were dreaming and when
they weren't. Got a bit scary for a few of them and they all quit the
drug saying they'd rather pay the tax/quit cold turkey then deal with
this crazy drug. I quit shortly after...never bothered getting to the
doctor after hearing some of their stories.
randyw41
to occur while either sleeping or awake. At least it didn't make me
want to dress like Cher and start singing Broadway Show-tunes...
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Joe
> I too took Chantix and had some of the weirdest dreams, which happened
> to occur while either sleeping or awake. At least it didn't make me
> want to dress like Cher and start singing Broadway Show-tunes...
Well, of course. Who needs drugs for THAT? ;-)