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John

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Jan 13, 2002, 9:24:21 PM1/13/02
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I was browsing through an antique shop over the weekend with my
wife,and came across a lovely pipe. I picked it up and just by looking
at it I knew right away there was something special about this pipe.
It was a shell brair type but Canadian in style. The markings on it
read "Made in London England," the number 506, and also read "own
make." The stem had a sterling silver diamond with BBB in it. I have
cleaned it up and it smokes very well. How much are these pipes worth
in estate pipe value. I paid $15.00 for it.
-John

Mark Tinsky

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Jan 13, 2002, 9:41:39 PM1/13/02
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In article <40bf578d.0201...@posting.google.com>,
rebel...@aol.com (John) wrote:

NOt a fortune but you got a very good deal I have a small bulldog of
theirs that smokes great ! MT

Charles Perry

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Jan 13, 2002, 9:45:06 PM1/13/02
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"John" <rebel...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Congradulations! What you have is a fine smoking pipe. BBBs are great
pipes. They are not particularly valuable though. The Own Make is second
from the highest grade (Own Make Virgin was highest grade). I would say the
pipe in very good condition would be worth $35 or $40. Great find if you
are looking for a well made smoking pipe.

Charles Perry P.E.

Tom T.

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Jan 13, 2002, 9:48:33 PM1/13/02
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I have a smooth dublin from the 50s I think that I just love, not a real
collectors snag but a great old name and a great smoker. FWIW I wouldn't take
$15 for it...
Regards,
Tom T.

Terry McGinty

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Jan 14, 2002, 6:45:21 AM1/14/02
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John,

These pipes are in of most underrated of the estate market. They
never were high end and a few had fills. They only ran about $15 when
they were new. From all the people that sing there praises, and my
own opinion, I would say you probably got a very good deal. They can
be had for about $30 to $50 on today's estate market and I grab all
the good ones I can find.

BBB stands for Best British Briar and they were made in 29 English
shapes, that to my eye are perfection. All the pipes were stamped
"own make" and they were made since 1847.

I have a BBB brochure that I picked up sometime in the early sixties.
The price of your pipe, a "Sterling Silver" series was $10.95.
The highest grade they made was a "Rare Grain" and is listed at $30 at
that time. Not to dispute my good friend Charles, they were also
stamped "Own Make" and I have never seen one.

All of mine smoke fabulously.

Regards, Terry M


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Raleigh C. Perry

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Jan 14, 2002, 8:00:29 AM1/14/02
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You got a bonus!


Raleigh C. Perry

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Jan 14, 2002, 8:10:04 AM1/14/02
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I had a BBB Silver "Own Make" that I bought in 1960 for 10-12 bucks. To get
the value that is today, you have to find the worth of the dollar then and
the worth of the dollar today. To simplify things, a pound of tomatoes was
15 cents then and $1.29 (on sale) today. So you can approximate the today
cost by:

.15/1.29 : 12/x

I frankly love the older ones, mine was blasted and black and smoked well.
My big brother in my fraternity "borrowed" it (along with a few other
pipes), and never returned any of them. I simply put a curse on him and he
died within six months.


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Juha Lankinen

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Jan 14, 2002, 8:13:39 AM1/14/02
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I think you made a good deal. I have seven BBBs and there isn't a bad one
in the bunch.

Juha

pde...@iol.it

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Jan 14, 2002, 5:01:55 PM1/14/02
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Terry McGinty scrisse:

>BBB stands for Best British Briar and they were made in 29 English
>shapes, that to my eye are perfection. All the pipes were stamped
>"own make" and they were made since 1847.

I have two BBB's pipes. They smoke very nicely. One is a Ultonian, the
other a Victorian. Can you tell me something about these two grades?

Thanks!

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Sidlebeau

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Jan 14, 2002, 7:01:53 PM1/14/02
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Out of over 1000 pipes in my collection, I have 53 BBB's. A nice everyday pipe
at a reasonable price. BBB was never really an expensive pipe although it was
popular in pockets of the country. I have never paid more than 25.00 for one. I
think hat you paid about the going rate. It was not a bargains though it was
worth what you paid. Hope you enjoy it. I enjoy mine. Regards: Sid
sidl...@aol.com

Buddy Springman

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Jan 14, 2002, 7:14:54 PM1/14/02
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"...over a 1000 pipes..." I've got to forward this to my wife, highlighting
the "never paid more that 25.00".

Buddy

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Terry McGinty

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Jan 14, 2002, 8:15:50 PM1/14/02
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Paolo,

I would like to help you out but I'm afraid I can't. My chart shows
six BBB series. This chart is from the late 1950s or early 60s. It
shows a Rare Grain, Block Meerschaum Lined Virgin, Virgin, Sterling
Silver, Thorneycroft, Walnut. They are all (BBB own make). Now if
yours were made earlier or in recent years I don't know.
BBB are no longer distributed to the US. but are found occasionally.
I think FF Piper still has some on their website in Denmark. Perhaps
Jesper Klith can answer you question. I don't have his e-mail but
their site is :
http://www.wwi.dk/priv/ff/default.htm

Good luck,
Terry M


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Ronald Ward

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Jan 15, 2002, 12:26:03 AM1/15/02
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>Paolo,
>
>I would like to help you out but I'm afraid I can't. My chart shows
>six BBB series. This chart is from the late 1950s or early 60s. It
>shows a Rare Grain, Block Meerschaum Lined Virgin, Virgin, Sterling
>Silver, Thorneycroft, Walnut. They are all (BBB own make). Now if
>yours were made earlier or in recent years I don't know.
>BBB are no longer distributed to the US. but are found occasionally.

>
>


><pde...@iol.it> wrote in message
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>> Terry McGinty scrisse:
>> >BBB stands for Best British Briar and they were made in 29 English
>> >shapes, that to my eye are perfection. All the pipes were stamped
>> >"own make" and they were made since 1847.
>>
>> I have two BBB's pipes. They smoke very nicely. One is a Ultonian,
>the
>> other a Victorian. Can you tell me something about these two grades?
>>


I have a BBB Thorney Croft that I
got from eBay. I haven't smoked it yet but I have it about ready to send to
Marchetti pipes for cleaning. I have a very small knowledge about BBB pipes but
I know nothing about Thorney Croft. Any info about T C will only make using
this pipe even more enjoyable. So ... how about it? If you wanna see it try
here.
<http://cgi.
ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1011747614 >

Ron W
"It is through history that we learn Hope." Gen. Robert E. Lee

Terry McGinty

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Jan 15, 2002, 11:43:08 AM1/15/02
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Ron,

The "Thorneycroft" is a black sandblasted pipe made from Corsican
briar. It came in the same 29 shapes as the others BBBs. They sold
for $7.95 in the early sixties. I have one, a lumberman shape #607
which I purchased new in 1960 for $7.95. It has been a workhorse and
a replacement stem was made some time ago. The pipe still continues
to smoke very well and in my rotation should last me for another 32
years.

Regards, Terry M

"Ronald Ward" wrote in message

> I have a BBB Thorney Croft that I
> got from eBay. I haven't smoked it yet but I have it about ready to
send to
> Marchetti pipes for cleaning. I have a very small knowledge about
BBB pipes but
> I know nothing about Thorney Croft. Any info about T C will only
make using

> this pipe even more enjoyable. So ... how about it? <snip>


Ronald Ward

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Jan 15, 2002, 5:12:22 PM1/15/02
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Thank You, Terry! I think the shape is a prince. Ron W

Juha Lankinen

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Jan 16, 2002, 6:34:20 PM1/16/02
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tmr6...@aol.comnospam (Ronald Ward) wrote in
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> I have a BBB ThorneyCroft that I

> got from eBay. I haven't smoked it yet but I have it about ready to
> send to Marchetti pipes for cleaning. I have a very small knowledge
> about BBB pipes but I know nothing about Thorney Croft. Any info about
> T C will only make using this pipe even more enjoyable. So ... how
> about it? If you wanna see it try here.
<http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1011747614 >

As Terry McGinty already noted, the Thorneycroft is BBB's black sandblast
line. I have three Thorneycrofts, and I really like the look and feel of
them. All good smokers, too. I have a smooth Own Make in the same shape as
your BBB (shape number 130, right?). Very classic design, IMHO.

Juha

Terry McGinty

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Jan 16, 2002, 8:36:42 PM1/16/02
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"Ronald Ward" wrote in message
> Thank You, Terry! I think the shape is a prince.
>Ron W

Ron,
You are most welcome!

Right you are, it's a Prince shape #130. Yours should have the shape
number on the bottom of the bowl in the flattened area that runs along
the bottom of the shank. I wasn't able to see it on e-bay until today
after clicking on Juha's link. I did notice some serious oxidation on
the stem. Not to worry, Phil at Marchetti will clean that up just
fine. other than that, it is a fine looking pipe and it should give
you many years of pleasure.

All the best,
Terry M

Ronald Ward

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Jan 16, 2002, 10:59:45 PM1/16/02
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>Ron,
>You are most welcome!
>
>Right you are, it's a Prince shape #130. Yours should have the shape
>number on the bottom of the bowl in the flattened area that runs along
>the bottom of the shank. I wasn't able to see it on e-bay until today
>after clicking on Juha's link. I did notice some serious oxidation on
>the stem. Not to worry, Phil at Marchetti will clean that up just
>fine. other than that, it is a fine looking pipe and it should give
>you many years of pleasure.
>
>All the best,
>Terry M
>
>
Terry, there isn't a shape number stamped on the bowl. Just BBB and WN MAKE
(without an O) THORNYCROFT on the shank and it looks like in script "made in"
with ENGLAND in print under the script stamping. It looks like whoever stamped
it was thinking more about their first pint of black and tan at the pub than
this pipe. KnowhatImean? The stamping runs into the blasted part of the shank,
or is it the other way around?
Ron W


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Terry McGinty

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Jan 18, 2002, 8:56:34 AM1/18/02
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"Ronald Ward" wrote in message > >
> >
> Terry, there isn't a shape number stamped on the bowl. Just BBB and
WN MAKE
> (without an O) THORNYCROFT on the shank and it looks like in script
"made in"
> with ENGLAND in print under the script stamping.
<snip>

Ron, the shape number should have been before the O. The stamper
either ran out of room or like you said was thinking about that pint
:-)
Prince shapes don't really have very long shanks, so it is quite
posible that the shape # just ran off the bowl end and didn't come in
contact with the pipe. #130 is the only prince shape I have on my
chart for these older BBBs so I would think you could bet on that
number. I guess it isn't all that important as long as the thing
smoke well.

Cheers, Terry M

Ronald Ward

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Jan 18, 2002, 8:19:54 PM1/18/02
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I'm going to try to get this pipe and another sent off with one more that I
bought from the same seller to Marchetti Pipes for his full service cleaning
this weekend while it is fresh on my mind. I want him to clean it because I
want to see it at it's best and the stem does have a bad case of the greenies,
ugh. I have heard that older BBBs were good smokers, I'll find out soon. The
stamping on the shank runs into the blasted section of the pipe and is double
stamped too. Maybe he stamped it after lunch (hic) at the pub.

Ron W
>Ron, the shape number
should have been before the O. The stamper
>either ran out of room or like you said was thinking about that pint
>:-)
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