Edgeworth Pipe Tobacco

[Norman Batterby]

Have memories of this tobacco in the 50s. Made in the US, small blue tin (2
oz?) golden flake, superb flavour. Production was later switched to
Holland - in plastic pouch packs. The US product continued in this format
but it was much more expensive,although this has since disappeared. When in
the States last year I obtained 50 g tins of this tobacco, only to find on
my return that it had been made in UK, was darker in colour and rather sour
to the taste. Have learned very recently that Edgeworth tobacco is barred
from UK owing to EEC regulations!!!

An American wholesaler e-mailed his reply to the effect that it was still
manufactured in the US and imported to UK by Rothmans, London, but there the
trail ends.

Is there anyone out there who knows of any American production of this
superb tobacco, or who remembers it and can recommend the next best
alternative.

Norman Batterby

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I have a 100 gram tim recently purchased from JR Tobacco. On the side
of the tin it say in effect " Made under license of Lazarus Bros
Richmond VA Made in EU. I have heard that it was made in the UK when it
stopped production in the US. So now it is made in Europe somewhere. I
have heard it taste the same. It is a good burly smoke IMO. Hope this
helps.

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[Terry McGinty]

Norman,

I recently had the good fortune to be given a 30 year old tiny blue
(1-1/2 oz.) tin of Edgeworth Extra High Grade Sliced in perfect
condition. My friend managed to find a few tins hidden away in a
cellar recently. Now I am waiting for the right mood to try it and
see if it is anything like I remember. Edgeworth Sliced was first
marketed in 1903 by the Larus & Brother Co. of Richmond.
The slices were stood on *edge* in the tin which displayed the
contrasts between the Burley Cavendish cake and bright tobacco. They
charged a higher price for this tobacco and that is how it got its
name "Edgeworth". As I open my tin I can still see these contrasts
and smell its wonderful aroma.

I see that Tobacco Supermarket has tins of the current version. It is
a tin of 3-1/2 oz. and runs $9.70.
http://www.tobaccomkt.com/scripts/search2.exe
I seem to remember someone saying it is made today by Murray's of
Belfast. Since they have a pretty good reputation and make many fine
tobaccos for others, including Dunhill, it is possible that their
Edgeworth sliced is much like the original. I haven't tried it. I
see that you are from the UK so you shouldn't have any trouble getting
Murray's stuff over there.

Cheers, Terry

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[Runowski]

Norman: Regretably, this "product" is not the vibrant flavorful flake you
remembered from the 1950s and early 1960s. Something happened in the
reauthorization of its production which allowed whomever became the current
manufacturer to modify acccording to present tastes. In many ways, it seems
like a MacBarens tobacco. I still smoke the ReadyRubbed, which is closer in
formulation to the original flake. to compare the original flake with the
current flake is to compare an a ride in a Morgan withide in a Honda Civic:
both will get you where you want to go, but the Morgan was so much more, while
being so much simpler! We can only remember.
Bob Runowski

[Jeff Schwartz]

When you say bright tobacco I assume you mean Va. I may be wrong but the
current stuff looks like a pure burley blend to me and not bad if you like
burley. Goes real nice in a cob :)
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In article <867atk$3lf$1...@news5.svr.pol.co.uk>,
"Norman Batterby"

> Both the Flake and Ready Rubbed are available
from the tobacco supermarket (www.tobaccomkt.com)
and are made up of white burley tobaccos. Both
tasty and satisfying!

[Terry McGinty]

Yes, Jeff it looks very much like Virginia in the old tin. It is too
light in colour to be Burley from my experience. If I were to guess
at the % I would say about 15% Virginia from looking at it. I have no
idea what the new stuff is because I haven't laid my hands on any yet.
But I will sometime. You can bet on that.

BTW. thanks for info on the Lunar eclipse this evening. I will keep
an eye out here in Michigan. At seven the sky was clear but has
clouded over right now. Hope it clears by 11.

Cheers, Terry

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[Jeff Schwartz]

Terry,
You opinion raised my curiosity about this so I examined the content of
tobacco from a pouch of Edgeworth Extra High Grade Sliced Pipe Tobacco, in
the green pouch. I can find not a hint of any Va. in it. To me, it looks
like a burley only blend. I tried smoking some and it tastes of pure burley
with not a hint of Va. to it. I am beginning to think that we are talking
apples and oranges here as the blend that you describe bears no resemblance
to the one I have in the pouch. Could it be that there are different
products going by the same name?

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[Puff]

I am no expert but it sounds to me that you are talking about Edgeworth
Ready Rubbed and Terry is talking about Edgeworth Sliced.

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[Jeff Schwartz]

Sorry but, no, I am talking about Edgeworth Extra High Grade Sliced Pipe
Tobacco. It is a flake.

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[Magnulus]

Edgeworth Ready-Rubbed is a blend of flue-cured and burley tobacco, medium
strength (according to the AITS index). Edgeworth Sliced is a full-strength
blend, so I would presume it's mostly/all burley..
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[Terry McGinty]

OK All,

I think the reason that Jeff finds only Burley in the Edgeworth Sliced
is that the newer version, which I haven't had BTW is different than
the old. It is quite possible that even though it bears resemblance
to my 30 year old tin they are probably different. They don't make
the old stuff anymore. In fact if you can find it, buy it! I'm
surprised that my tin, being so old, that I can still see the distinct
difference in the Burley and the 15 % bright which is probably
Virginia. Usually in very old tobaccos that difference in colour
diminishes because of the marrying of the different tobaccos. I've
seen it happen many times; the new tobacco compared to the exact same
old tobacco changes colours to a more mixed or similar colour without
the distinct variances.

Since the newer version, that Jeff claims is all Burley and probably
has the medium brown colour of Burley, that the new version has been
changed over the years. They are probably both basically Burley
sliced flakes, but the old has some very light tobacco the colour of
bright Virginia in it. This is just my guess because I haven't had
the new but I trust Jeff when he says the new stuff seems like all
Burley. Just my two cents.

Terry

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[Jeff Schwartz]

That sounds reasonable to me, Terry. So how does the old stuff smoke? I
happen to like burley/bright mixtures, especially in a cob.

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[Runowski]

The old version of the Sliced was all burley, but mostly white burley, and a
fairly high grade. It was the same formulation as the RRd but pressed in
slices, and it was grand. Since Larus Bros sold off the formulae, both have
suffered from the lack of attention that most older American tobaccos have
encountered: "Close enough is good enough". Lane stills seems to try with the
RRd, but the new version of the sliced is much harsher than the old.