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Justin Holmes

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Jan 17, 2006, 1:47:29 AM1/17/06
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>From time to time, someone looking to fill out their rotation asks what
are some good pipes on a budget. For this purpose, I like pipes with
good smoking qualities that are undervalued because they aren't
particularly collectible. A few brands with observations.

Bjarne- Can be had for under 40 bucks as an estate if you keep your
eyes open. I got two new ones for 35 at one point on ebay (and not the
viking classics either) They are generally attractive and good smokers.
The drilling tends to be off in the bents, but with some gymnastics,
most will pass a cleaner.

Savinelli- similar pricing to bjarne on the estate market. I don't
think they smoke quite as well, but they tend to be pretty good. Be
sure they include the filterless adapter, although I would imagine you
could get a replacement.

Larsen- The machine made ones are nothing fancy to look at, but good
smokers, and the two I have don't seem to have any fills. Around 40
bucks, sometimes less.

S&R- wildly undervalued, but excellent smokers. You don't see many used
ones, but when you do, people seem to not know what they are. Both of
mine were under 25 bucks on ebay, and smoke well. Their yard pipes are
a steal new.

Armellini- There are higher and lower grades of these. I have three of
the low grades. Two were 15 dollars. The big one was 35. One of them
had a pretty cheesy stem originally, but I got it replaced, and it is
nice now. I haven't seen many lately, but keep your eyes open.

Bertram- I don't know much, but people seem to swear by them. I just
ebayed one for 24 bucks shipped. Will report back, but sounds like they
are steals.

Help a newbie out, post other suggestions

D.J. Perry

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Jan 17, 2006, 9:54:52 AM1/17/06
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Sasieni- (pre 1980) Good old wood with classic english styling.The
lower end models are usually a tremendous bargain on ebay.

Scandia or Royal Danish- These are Stanwell seconds which are usually
under $15.00 when found on the estate market.The three that I have are
employed as yard pipes in my rotation and both smoke superbly.

J.M. Boswell-(entry level) Excellent smokers which break in with
complete ease and can be purchased brand new for under $50.00

Cheers, D.Perry
ASP Since Fall 01
R.I.P. Tom Dunn

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Clif Swinford

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Jan 17, 2006, 12:53:34 PM1/17/06
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I have yet to get a bad smoke from a Paronelli, and they can be had -
new - for under $20 if you're patient. Even if you're not, under $30 is
pretty easy.

Grabow Westbrooks are the Zippo of pipes: not elegant, but well made,
satisfying to smoke and nearly indestructible. Though the ones you find
on eBay are often smoked to pieces, they can usually be cleaned up
easily and the quality of the briar is miles above modern Grabows.
Sadly, the word seems to be getting out on these, as I used to grab
them up three for $10, and lately I've seen them selling for $30 and
more. If you don't want to clean one up or gamble on condition, Frenchy
usually has a few at the over $30 range, and it's still a good deal.
--
Clif

"What does not kill me, makes me stranger."

Bob Landry <psyktek

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Jan 17, 2006, 1:24:54 PM1/17/06
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On 16 Jan 2006 22:47:29 -0800, "Justin Holmes" <jwh...@gmail.com>
wrote:
SNIP

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>S&R- wildly undervalued, but excellent smokers. You don't see many used
>ones, but when you do, people seem to not know what they are. Both of
>mine were under 25 bucks on ebay, and smoke well. Their yard pipes are
>a steal new.
>
SNIP

I like all your choices. Haven't known about S&Rs;are they usually
listed that way, or is this veteran pipesters shorthand for the brand?

Bob

Justin Holmes

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Jan 17, 2006, 1:45:26 PM1/17/06
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They S&R is the house brand at pipes and pleasures in Columbus. They
are well made, and the new ones go for 150 and up. When you can find an
estate, they can be had for much less. I paid 25 each for my two.

To the list, I would also Tinderbox Napoli. These are supposed to be
armellini seconds. I got one for 5 bucks, and while not my favorite, it
is more than 5 bucks worth of pipe.

THanks for the posts guys, keep em coming

Adguru

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Jan 17, 2006, 3:36:51 PM1/17/06
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Hi Dock,
Are you sure that Royal Danish and Scandia are seconds? While they are
certainly Stanwell products, I have always considered them just
different lines. In particular Royal Danish was just stylisticly less
conservative design-wise than the bulk of the Stanwell line much like
Savanelli had their Estella line.
Regards,
Ed

cigarnomo

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Jan 17, 2006, 3:43:49 PM1/17/06
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Keep an eye out for Wally Frank straight grains, they made some goofy
looking pipes at times but some traditional shapes are excellent. I got
a billiard "straight grain" for under 20 bucks and it was unsmoked, and
smokes like a dream. Again the digby is a good choice as is the Boswell
(don't see many estates) . Another good one is the Comoy Everyman
series, a good smoker. JA

Antti

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Jan 17, 2006, 5:48:04 PM1/17/06
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Ed,
Royal Danish and Scandia are true "seconds".
Of course the meaning of second is not clear, but indeed these names
are representatives of lines of Stanwell not as highly graded as the
proper Stanwells. Of course they might smoke just great.

Mellow puffs and dry ashes!
Antti from Finland
ASPer since 1994
*presently smoking G,H Brown Flake (Unscented) in an old Capitello
Gothic (Wax Drip)*

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Safari

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Jan 17, 2006, 8:56:09 PM1/17/06
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Old Kaywoodies and Webers can be found quite cheaply in estate pipe
sales and many smoke beautifully.

Safari

Charles

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Jan 17, 2006, 9:12:09 PM1/17/06
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Petersons,Petersons,Petersons,Irish Seconds,Irish Seconds,et.al

Funn

Safari

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Jan 18, 2006, 12:20:18 AM1/18/06
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Indeed. Old Petersons, Stanwells and Savinellis can be had for under
50 bucks and on average are good performers.

Same of GBD's by the way, if staying under 50 dollars.

If one can invest 50 to 100 the options open up a great deal with
Parkers, Sasienis, Big Bens, and lower end Comoy's are also great
deals and usually smoke great.

=== PAD afflicted Safari

On 17 Jan 2006 18:12:09 -0800, "Charles" <funn...@msn.com> wrote:

>Petersons,Petersons,Petersons,Irish Seconds,Irish Seconds,et.al
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>Funn

John Grubb

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Jan 18, 2006, 12:38:27 AM1/18/06
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Stanwells for sure can be a great deal. I've been going throught the
Ebay selections and there are a few at about the $20 mark.

John

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Warren F

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Jan 18, 2006, 11:24:30 AM1/18/06
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I'd add Edwards pipes to the list as excellent values and great
smokers. i've got a bunch of them, most acquired for under $10. Mine
are the conventional shapes. Many of the freehand "danish" styled
pipes were made by Randy Wiley. Not my cup of tea, but I'm sure
they're very fine pipes.

Adguru

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Jan 19, 2006, 7:09:28 AM1/19/06
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Thanks, Antti. I wasn't sure. What threw me off was seeing the RD line
priced about the same as Stanwell branded pipes at FF-pipes in Denmark.
Regards,
Ed

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