Where is catch?
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"There can be no doubt that smoking nowadays is largely a miserable
automatic business.
People use tobacco without ever taking an intelligent interest in it.
They do not experiment, compare, fit the tobacco to the occasion.
A man should always be pleasantly conscious of the fact that he is smoking."
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"Newsman" <mel...@email.hinet.hr> wrote in message
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Get the smallest quantity of anything and everything. Try
different tobaccos, different companies. MacB wouldn't likely be
in business if everything they made was crap and nobody was
smoking it! If you find MacB's blends that you like -- go for
it!!
As one of the Jeff's here says, "Smoke what you like and like
what you smoke."
Tony Florida
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Newsman <mel...@email.hinet.hr> wrote in message
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Regards,
Mark
please let me tell you something about my personal impression about Mac
Baren Tobaccos from the point of view of a German. There are a lot of Mac
Baren Tobaccos avaiable here. Last year, Mac Baren are offering a christmas
calendar including 24 different tobacco samples. So, it is not easy to find
a GENERAL statement. There are some intersting tobaccos like "Dark Twist" or
"Latakia Blend" (including nice curleys), but this is dependend on the
different taste of the smoker.
Most of the tobaccos are indifferent and of (IMO) mediocre quality. That
might be caused by the fact, that Mac Baren is a tobacco distributed
world-wide in a giant quantity. In Germany, Mac Baren tobaccos are available
everywhere and lots of smokers only buy this brand, because others are not
available at the moment or on this special place. Years ago, the ferries
from Germany to Scandinavia had TAX-free shops. The only tobacco you could
buy was Mac Baren.
Best
Joerg
Robbie
>MacB wouldn't likely be
>in business if everything they made was crap
Dear Tony,
Is that why Captain Black is the best-selling pipe tobacco?
Fair winds,
Sailorman Jack
I think availability and education play a part in popularity too. In the UK
St Bruno is the top selling brand! Now even amongst those oddballs on ASP
that like St Bruno I'll bet it isn't their favourite.
For those who might be interested the top selling brands in the UK are, in
no particular order;
St Bruno
Clan
Condor
Erinmore
Gold Block
I wonder how popular these brands are with ASPers.
Despite the fact that the name sounds like a certain fast-food chain's
sandwich containing birth-control pills, I happen to love the Mac Baren
blends. My favorite is the Latakia Blend. While I enjoy it a lot I don't
like it for my everyday smoke. I think that it's a bit too rich for my
tastes to have it that often...kind of like having chocolate being the
staple of your diet...LOL
McClelland makes an excellent product and that's probably why the reviews
are so high. I get their blending tobaccos and create my own custom blends.
They are always consistent and they have all the characteristics for an
everyday smoke AND the "special times" blends.
Check out a few other sources and you should find some great praise for Mac
Baren!
Jimmy "El Tigro" Muraco
East Coast Pro Wrestling's version of Abdullah the Butcher
http://jimmymuraco.homestead.com/index.html
"Newsman" <mel...@email.hinet.hr> wrote in message
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IMO I feel that those that I have tried tend to smoke extremely hot and bite
much more so than I care for. Even Mixture can turn into an inferno and bite
like the dickins. But my most critical observation is that they tend to be
too thin in the flavor department for me and too mild for the most part as
well. I do admit to enjoying more fuller bodied blends so this isn't really
a surprise.
But this is my own experience and I am sure that for many smokers out there
this is not shared by them. As I enjoy saying, smoke what you like and like
what you smoke. Life's too damn short for anything less.
Jeff
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>It seems that Mac Baren is one of the most frequent tobacco that I can get
>my hands on,
>but looks like people in http://www.tobaccoreviews.com/ don't have very high
>opinion about blends.
I find Mac Baren stuff to bite. Plus it seems to be sweet, in general.
Probably the one exception for me is Navy Flake. But I have a tin of
Mixture Mild that I won't crack, just because it bites me.
Ian
--
That oughta be like hittin' fungoes
with a corked bat. (Nathaniel Ward)
> It seems that Mac Baren is one of the most frequent tobacco that I can get
> my hands on,
> but looks like people in http://www.tobaccoreviews.com/ don't have very high
> opinion about blends.
> Overall of Mac Baren rewievers are somewhere between "I smoke this on
> occasion."
> and "Might try it again, but will not keep it on hand."
I sometimes wonder if some look down on Mac Barens blends simply because
they lack the snob appeal of the old English or small boutique blenders.
To hell with what others think, if you like it that's all that counts.
Ken in Miami
Mixture in a Peterson Danish Y2k2
I like a few of the Mac Baren blends. Some bite easily, but so do tobaccos
from other vendors. I particularly like Dark Twist, Highland Mixture, Navy
Flake, and the occasionaly bowl of VA#1.
A good feature of their tobaccos is they are ready to smoke when you get
them. Some aging might help, but it is not needed. You do not have to open
the package, wet down the tobacco, reseal and let age for 2 years before
smoking.
Charles Perry P.E.
>>From: "Tony Florida"
>
>>MacB wouldn't likely be
>>in business if everything they made was crap
>
>Is that why Captain Black is the best-selling pipe tobacco?
Ah, but Captain Black is not crap! OK, it's too mild for me in both
tobacco flavor and nicotine departments and it's got PG in it, but it
smells nice, smokes smoothly and bite-free and burns to the bottom of
the bowl. It doesn't thrill me much as I actually LIKE the taste of
tobacco but for what it's supposed to be it's quite well-done. Just
remember - we all have different tastes.
Reg'ds,
Terry
--
Mission critical systems and the PC on your desktop are both computers, but
they're designed and built differently. They each fill a niche, but believe
me, nobody on the Space Shuttle wants to hear, "Dude, you're getting a
Dell!"
-Shuttermutt on aerospace computing
Tony Florida
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Ian Rastall <idra...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Hi John,
I have tried most of the McB blends aside from Navy Flake which is good, not
great IMHO. McB is the whitebread of tinned tobacco. Like always to each his
own. I enjoy Esoterica blends which are not rated very well either.
Smoke what *you* enjoy.
Happy smoking,
Ken
Happy smoking,
Ken
>
>
Many pipe smokers are not 'hobbyists,' like ASP'ers. They
couldn't care less about most of the stuff that turns us on. They
find a brand, they stick with it. Sorta quaint, ain't it? <g>
Best regards,
Tony Florida
>It seems that Mac Baren is one of the most frequent tobacco that I can get
>my hands on,
>but looks like people in http://www.tobaccoreviews.com/ don't have very high
>opinion about blends.
>Overall of Mac Baren rewievers are somewhere between "I smoke this on
>occasion."
>and "Might try it again, but will not keep it on hand."
Newsman:
The easiest solution to rectify the imbalance of reviews for the Mac
Baren's blends versus the others that you mention, is to become a
reviewer yourself and sing all the praises you wish. I am sure that
no one has intentionally slighted Mac Baren's, it may just be that the
reviewers don't smoke it and hence no review. Go to the ASP home page
and do a Google search and I am sure you find vast references to many
of Mac Baren's blends without being reviews per se.
Also check the archives of the BPTT reviews, the month of June 2002
had Mac Baren Navy Flake and Burley Blend as the samples that were
reviewed by the panel. There may be a great tendency for the
reviewers of the web site to mainly do reviews on the ASP blend de
jure. It cycles quite often, depending on if GLP or C&D or Butera or
others have come out with something new. Just in the past week or so
I can recall reference made to Mac Baren's Golden Dice by at least two
members.
Bottom line, re-read the top line. That should help.
Cheers,
Bob
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"Die schönsten Bilder sind die, die man macht,
wenn man nachts im Bett liegt und Pfeife raucht."
***Translation*****
"The most beautiful pictures are those, which one makes,
when one lies at night in bed and smokes a pipe."
----Vincent Van Gogh (1853-1890)
In the evenings, when I am more into enjoyment of good leaf, I go
through the Rattray's Va's or smoke Escudo, FVF, Best Brown.
I consider really good blend of theirs to be Stockton, which
unfortunately isn't sold over here. I get it in small quantities from
friends in Germany.
I agree, I think we are certainly a bit 'cultish' in this select group
and thereforen look down upon MacB as a quasi-drugstore product. One
thing they do not lend themselves to is aiding in the transition of
the typical CB, Bestoval, Walnut, H&H smoker to more pronounced
Virginia leaf. They are just too bitey for that. Their Latakia has no
Latakia... Their Vanilla cream is simply abominable to me.
The new line (in cardboard puches) seems to be the blandest and least
comittal.... they assume for the 'young crowd'. They are just as the
package - cardboard. Talking to their US rep. who visited our store
two months ago, and asking when we might get the rest of their
offerings....I got no real answer. A virginia Flake swill be sold here
soon, but that's no more than VA#1 in flake form, with less casing.
So in conclusion - they are good with average stuff.
Happy Puffs,
Frank N.
P.S.:
I am currently entering a love affair with the Serenity Series by
C&D... Of all things with Solace (I never really liked Latakia so far)
and Comfort. Any views out there about those?
It is available, and it is not bad - I like Mixture very much.
I liked Vanilla loose cut, but I don't want anymore that HEAVY aromatics...
I have found one shop with 20 Mac Baren blends - what a hey, I will try them
all:))
I was just wondering - maybe I miss something ten times better;-)
> It seems that Mac Baren is one of the most frequent tobacco that I can get
> my hands on,
> but looks like people in http://www.tobaccoreviews.com/ don't have very high
> opinion about blends.
> Overall of Mac Baren rewievers are somewhere between "I smoke this on
> occasion."
> and "Might try it again, but will not keep it on hand."
> Are they huge company which products are somwhere in beetween, without any
> very good - I've
> found, for example that GLPease and McClelland have some great rewievs for
> blends in overall - for example
> GLPease "Caravan" have 10 rewievs and overall is "Favorite"... "Barbary
> Coast" have 17(!) with that great overall...
> But Mac Baren - none. (Only "Mild Choice" but with only one rewiev, and
> London burley blend with two rewievs)
>
> Where is catch?
>
>
I liek some of thm alot.. some I don't at all.
Navy Flake has become one of my favorite tobaccos (thanks to spending so much
time downwind from MT on fishing trips) -though it can get a bit nasty
towards the end of a bowl. But it tastes great otherwise. VA#1 is delicious
but it bites me too much to smoke very often. Same with Mixture Mild.
Plumcake and Rollcake (?? correct name) is OK, Highland is OK, even the
Vanilla Cream is OK. Ambrosia sucks ass as does Golden Dice... they jsut are
not my style. Havent tried any others I don't think.
Joshua
I've smoked Mac Baren blends for over 30 years. I started with Dark
Twist and Plumcake (which I don't think is near what it was), then
went on to Virginia #1. Just within the last few years I tried the
Navy Flake, Gold of Denmark, and Black Ambrosia. I still smoke DT,
NF, and Vir. #1 because I like them. But I have also smoked, and will
continue to smoke/try, other blends that come along and interest me.
That's part of the fun of this hobby.
Read the reviews. Try what sounds good to you--and occasionally what
doesn't. You may be surprised by what you find! Above all, remember
that the goal is to enjoy what you smoke--even if it is not "the
high-priced spread."
"Newsman" <mel...@email.hinet.hr> wrote in message news:<ah69q0$8g5p$1...@as201.hinet.hr>...
> It seems that Mac Baren is one of the most frequent tobacco that I can get
> my hands on,
> but looks like people in http://www.tobaccoreviews.com/ don't have very high
> opinion about blends.
>
> Where is catch?
Smoke what you like!
Tim W.
If you are looking for a home for that Mixture Mild, drop me a line!
Tim W.
Some folks have said that the disdain with which Mac Baren is held is caused by
snobbiness.
I approachied the Mac Baren line with enthusiasm. Such a big line. Such
enticing descriptions. In every instance, I was disappointed.
So, while I may indeed be a bit of a snob, I must say that IMNSHO Mac Baren
earn my disdain the old fashioned way -- with inferior product.
Fair winds,
Sailorman Jack
> It seems that Mac Baren is one of the most frequent tobacco that I can
> get my hands on
Personally, I don't understand why MacBaren tobaccos don't get much
credit. I haven't tried that many of their blends, but most of the ones
I have I've been happy with. I've tried (in order of preference): Club
Blend, Dark Twist, Navy Flake, and Plumcake. They have all lacked the
complexity of GL Pease blends, but, at the same time, they all have a
consistency that I like. Club Blend is my favorite cavendish tobacco,
Dark Twist a nice sweet and bodied smoke, Navy Flake is great in a cob,
but I only like Plumcake when tempered in a clay and I smoke it so little
that I've had an open tin lying around for more than two years.
--
-Stephen Disrud
>"Newsman" <mel...@email.hinet.hr> wrote in
>news:ah69q0$8g5p$1...@as201.hinet.hr:
>
>> It seems that Mac Baren is one of the most frequent tobacco that I can
>> get my hands on
>
>Personally, I don't understand why MacBaren tobaccos don't get much
>credit. I haven't tried that many of their blends, but most of the ones
>I have I've been happy with. I've tried (in order of preference): Club
>Blend, Dark Twist, Navy Flake, and Plumcake.
Been waiting for a fellow Club Blend admirer to come along. I love
the stuff. 'bout the only one I do really like.
On the other hand, the MacBaren Navy Flake and a few others seem to receive
high remarks from most reviewers, but as I've never tried them, I can't
speak from experience.
You might want to do a newsgroup search for BPTT for reviews of some of
their blends; also, pipe and tobacco magazine reviewed many of them a short
time ago - a few earned good comments.
cdb
"Newsman" <mel...@email.hinet.hr> wrote in message
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> It seems that Mac Baren is one of the most frequent tobacco that I can get
> my hands on,
> but looks like people in http://www.tobaccoreviews.com/ don't have very
high
> opinion about blends.
> Overall of Mac Baren rewievers are somewhere between "I smoke this on
> occasion."
> and "Might try it again, but will not keep it on hand."
> Are they huge company which products are somwhere in beetween, without any
> very good - I've
> found, for example that GLPease and McClelland have some great rewievs for
> blends in overall - for example
> GLPease "Caravan" have 10 rewievs and overall is "Favorite"... "Barbary
> Coast" have 17(!) with that great overall...
> But Mac Baren - none. (Only "Mild Choice" but with only one rewiev, and
> London burley blend with two rewievs)
>
> Where is catch?
>
>
Mike Rothenberg
"KENNY C. FOSSITT" <wren...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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I must admit that VA#1 and perhaps the occasional Scottish Mixture and
plumcake is a favourite of mine...If only VA#1 was available in Australia.
Haven't found it yet.
David
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Wipe the SCAT to reply.
Virginia #1: 4 stars! an excellent full on golden Virginia blend. pressed
and slightly rubbed out. Very sweet, almost artificially so. Has the
potential to bite like a rotweiller recently neutered without anesthetic.
Smokes hot, does not need to be rubbed out any more than it already is in
the tin. a reccomended smoke for VA smokers. (I haven't tried it in the
new packaging yet, so this may no longer be accurate).
Golden Dice: 4 stars: Not what I expected at all. This stuff is sweeeet.
I'd reccomend it to smokers who enjoy VA, but like to smoke an aromatic
tobacco occasionally. However this stuff burns hot, and bites like
a.........(see above). But with the right technique, an enjoyable
experience none the less.
Erik
On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 08:27:18 -0500, Mark Cicero wrote:
> I have yet to find a Mac Baren blend that I like.
>
> Regards,
> Mark