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Eric @ Cupojoes.com

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Nov 17, 2003, 4:47:54 PM11/17/03
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I recently had a customer ask the following question. I suggested he
try a blend with a little less nicotine. Perhaps someone here has
something to add? Here's his question:

I enjoy smoking my pipe, but I always feel sick later that evening or
the next day. My stomach gets upset. Would you know why this happens?
Also is it common, and what can I do to prevent it?


Thanks,
Eric
www.cupojoes.com

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David Quisenberry

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Nov 17, 2003, 4:57:00 PM11/17/03
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Tell him to let the Haddo's age for a couple of years <g>.


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G. L. Pease

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Nov 17, 2003, 5:18:55 PM11/17/03
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On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 13:47:54 -0800, Eric @ Cupojoes.com wrote
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> I recently had a customer ask the following question. I suggested he try a
> blend with a little less nicotine. Perhaps someone here has something to
> add? Here's his question:
>
> "I enjoy smoking my pipe, but I always feel sick later that evening or the
> next day. My stomach gets upset. Would you know why this happens? Also is it
> common, and what can I do to prevent it?"

Nicotine alone isn't the problem. I can smoke some fairly strong tobaccos
without any ill-effects, while some with less nicotine will give me the
spins. Different body chemistries and different tobacco chemistries react
in different ways. Oriental tobaccos, for instance, tend to be low in
nicotine, but I feel their effects more readily than I do those of
moderate Virginias, which have somewhat more nicotine. On the other hand,
I can't smoke the stronger of the lanyards produced in the Lake District
without taking an E-ticket ride on the Whirl-n-Hurl, while friends of
mine can smoke them seemingly ceaselessly without so much as a drop of
sweat on their nose. (That's the harbinger of a trip to Spinsville for
me. If I get that sweaty nose, I know what's coming, and it's already TOO
LATE.)

The only solution is for your customer to experiment a little, and not
smoke the stuff that literally nauseates him. Too, stronger tobaccos are
better tolerated on a full stomach, especially after a meal loaded with
complex carbohydrates, as this will tend to limit the speed of uptake
into the bloodstream of the nicotine that is ingested.

Nicotine is taken up three ways, when smoking a pipe. Some is absorbed
through the mucosa of the mouth, some is taken in through the lungs
(though not a lot, since most of us do not inhale), and some is solvated
by the saliva and swallowed. That's the real problem. By the time you've
swallowed enough for symptoms to arise, you're only experiencing the
beginning. There's still more to be absorbed, and it will enter the blood
stream faster than it will metabolize, hence the E-ticket ride.

It took me a few years, when I started, to learn to slow down, choose
pipe sizes that were appropriate to the tobacco I was going to smoke, and
choose tobaccos based on time of day and what I'd eaten. Now, it's pretty
much second nature, but when I occasionally lose my head, I really lose
my head. The hallucinations are not always pleasant...

-glp

--
Gregory Pease
Principal Tobacco Alchemist
G. L. Pease Tobaccos, Intl.
http://www.glpease.com

Cheryl

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Nov 17, 2003, 5:26:38 PM11/17/03
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Eric @ Cupojoes.com wrote:

>I enjoy smoking my pipe, but I always feel sick later that evening or
>the next day. My stomach gets upset. Would you know why this happens?
>Also is it common, and what can I do to prevent it?

Eric, you're probably right, too much nicotine.

1 - find out if he's inhaling...
2 - make sure he isn't smoking on an empty stomach.
3 - make sure he is drinking plenty of liquids, not counting alcohol or
caffeine - before, during and after.
4 - steer him towards tobaccos without toppings, etc. in case it's the
additives... he might be sensitive to the chemicals, esp. in
aromatics..
5 - ask him what he uses to clean his pipes....
6 - if all else fails, sell him a filtered pipe!

Cheryl

Justin

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Nov 17, 2003, 6:04:32 PM11/17/03
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Also, make sure he isn't swallowing. I get pretty juicy when I smoke, and as
a fact of life, have to spit repeatedly. those times when I have swallowed
some or all of the juice, I have felt bad for quite a while afterwards. It
isn't pretty, but it is a fact of life for some of us.

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RickPiatt

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Nov 17, 2003, 6:28:14 PM11/17/03
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Tell him to NOT swallow the tobacco juice / saliva! I suffer with a tender
stomach and was tormented by the same symptoms (granted they varied by the
blend I was smoking as was previously mentioned). The symptoms are terrible
and easilly avoided if he will just remember to spit out every time he has a
saliva build-up. It is't graceful, but it will allow him to smoke without
any fear of nasty repercussions. The truely sad thing is that he then, like
me, will never be a social smoker.
--
Rick
Smoke a pipe as long as you control when it gets smoked. When the pipe
calls out to you more than you call out to it, step away for a while. This
applies to all things. Live your life, don't live for the things in it.


Matt

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Nov 17, 2003, 7:14:46 PM11/17/03
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Certain tobaccos give me an acid stomach every time I smoke them. Don't
know why. So I stay away from them. Usually english blends although I
like english and only a few really bother me. It has nothing to do
with strength of the blend rather I think its some blending tobacco that
some companies use that gets my stomach.
--Matt

Smokin' Travis

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Nov 17, 2003, 11:19:56 PM11/17/03
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Eric,

No joke, tell him to take a tums before smoking. He may be swallowing air
while smoking causing gas.

--

Smokin' Travis

I came for the knowledge,
I stayed for the people.

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Tracy Mazur

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Nov 18, 2003, 12:13:12 AM11/18/03
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Is this a new thing, or has it always happened since he started smoking a
pipe?

Two days in a row , I was pretty ill after having a bowl of one of my
favorite blends. I was almost at the end of a tin that had been opened and
not smoked for awhile. I tossed what was left of the tin (maybe only three
more bowls, so it wasn't too heinous of a crime...I only had to say 10 Hail
Dunhills to my churchwarden :) ), cracked open a new one, and was fine. I
don't know if tobacco can "turn" but I haven't had an incident of sickness
after smoking since then.


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David Quisenberry

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Nov 18, 2003, 4:52:10 AM11/18/03
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Tonight something very out of the ordinary occurred to me. I had just
returned from my monthly pipe club meeting and as soon as I arrived home I
got this gawd awful queasy feeling in my stomach? 'Be a man and ignore it'
I tell myself. Two minutes later I am saying 'Breath fool'. One minute
later I kneeling before the porcelain throne. A half our later, after the
upset stomach, sweating and dizzy spell had passed I'm trying to figure out
what in the heck happend. So I'm asking myself :
'bad food?' - nope, ate at a first class joint
'too much smoke or too fast?' - 2 bowls and a cigar over a 3.5 hour period
with a meal thrown in, very common for me; plus I didnt even drink alcohol
tonite.
So what could it be? Then I start reading the newsgroup and it hit me.
Earlier in the day I had made the wiseass comment below about ageing the
Haddo's before smoking it.
Could this be an act of bad karma? Or could it really be a message from the
Dark Lord.
Personally, I think the people blaming things on karma is absurb....

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Joshua Rosenblatt

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Nov 18, 2003, 10:03:05 AM11/18/03
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On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:28:14 -0500, "RickPiatt" <eng...@yahooo.com>
wrote:

>Tell him to NOT swallow the tobacco juice / saliva! I suffer with a tender
>stomach and was tormented by the same symptoms (granted they varied by the
>blend I was smoking as was previously mentioned). The symptoms are terrible
>and easilly avoided if he will just remember to spit out every time he has a
>saliva build-up. It is't graceful, but it will allow him to smoke without
>any fear of nasty repercussions. The truely sad thing is that he then, like
>me, will never be a social smoker.


I'm with ya Rick, ther are some blends (notably those high in nicotine
- with the exception of Haddo's oddly enough) that make me salivate
like Pavlov's pooch. Often I'll have a spare icedtea bottle for those
moments so I can spit into it rather than swallow. Not only does it
prevent me from getting sick, but it also will reduce the chance of
stomach cancer - or so I hope.

At least that's what I tell myself. :)

Joshua

Mikey

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Nov 18, 2003, 1:19:11 PM11/18/03
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I've had it happen once or twice, while smoking one of the stronger VA
blends in a Bjarne Giant (a really HUGE bowl); towards the end of the bowl,
my stomach got a little flopsy.

Your customer might try smaller bowls, or lower-nicotine tobacco (as you
suggested). Also, is he properly hydrated? He might want to consider
drinking water while he smokes...I sometimes feel a bit rough if I let
myself become mildly dehydrated...

- Mikey

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Matt Martin

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Nov 19, 2003, 2:13:08 AM11/19/03
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After meditating for hours on Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:04:32 -0600,
Justin <jho...@polisci.umn.edu> imparted the following wisdom unto us:

> Also, make sure he isn't swallowing. I get pretty juicy when I smoke, and as
> a fact of life, have to spit repeatedly. those times when I have swallowed
> some or all of the juice, I have felt bad for quite a while afterwards. It
> isn't pretty, but it is a fact of life for some of us.

Try chewing tobacco for a bit. It's pretty strong on the nicotine,
depending on the type, and if you get to where you can swallow some of
the juice from that without ill effect nothing a pipe could do to you
would have any effect :P

--
Matt Martin -=- buf...@nekomusume.net -=- http://nekomusume.net/
A young girl once committed suicide because her mother refused her a
new bonnet. Coroner's verdict: "Death from excessive spunk."
-- Sacramento Daily Union, September 13, 1860

Daniel J. Morlan

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Nov 19, 2003, 8:42:51 PM11/19/03
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1792 baybee!

LOL

DJM

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