women vs. pipe tobacco
STEEN BYRGESEN JENSEN
what kind of tobacco do women enjoy being smoked around them?
My wife is against all brands!!!
Cheers
Steen
D.Marrold & Lori Bent
In response to women Vs. pipe tobacco I'll take the pipe tobacco anytime.
Most women I know will usually prattle on about how their father, grandpa or
uncle always smoked some Cherry smelling tobacco.
Personally, I've never found a cherry blend that was any good.
Women also seem to prefer aromatics over english style blends.
I smoke Edgeworth slices and though my wife tolerates this I think she would
prefer something a little more pleasant smelling. I have also started
smoking 965 and I love it for the taste and aroma. Alas, she detests it. Too
bad.
I'm curious though, does anyone smoke a particular blend because others say
it smells good or (like me) smoke it for the taste? If you do smoke it for
others, why? I don't want to come across as overly insensitive but don't we
smoke a pipe for our enjoyment?
D. Marrold Bent
Edgeworth on #pipes When I have the time.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
STEEN BYRGESEN JENSEN wrote in message
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Russell Clay
Hi Steen! Here's an idea: take your wife to the tobacco shop
next time you go. Ask her to smell the different blends and pick
one she likes. Make her feel that she is an important part of
the process. Then smoke "her" blend from time to time. If she
helped pick it out, she can hardly complain, and she may even
like it. You don't have to give up your personal favorites, just
include the tobacco she likes as part of your smoking pattern.
Bill Triplett
My wife prefers English, although she loves the very aromatic vanillas too.
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STEEN BYRGESEN JENSEN wrote in message
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In article <01bd3a22$272cfa00$8da6efc2@default>,
"STEEN BYRGESEN JENSEN" <spen...@post10.tele.dk> wrote:
>
> what kind of tobacco do women enjoy being smoked around them?
>
> My wife is against all brands!!!
>
> Cheers
>
> Steen
You might try buying her a pipe and letting her blow her own smoke. ;-)
Seriously, we have quite a few lady pipe smokers in the newsgroup, and they
have very decided opinions on what they like.
Miichael
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I smoke cigars as well as a pipe. Compared to a cigar, my wife prefers
just about *any* pipe tobacco.
STEEN BYRGESEN JENSEN wrote:
> what kind of tobacco do women enjoy being smoked around them?
>
> My wife is against all brands!!!
>
> Cheers
>
> Steen
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John D. Wilson
"STEEN BYRGESEN JENSEN" <spen...@post10.tele.dk> wrote:
>what kind of tobacco do women enjoy being smoked around them?
>
>My wife is against all brands!!!
>
My wife loves the aroma of Cornell & Diehl's #300 (Apricots and
Cream).
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Irina Rempt
STEEN BYRGESEN JENSEN (spen...@post10.tele.dk) wrote:
> what kind of tobacco do women enjoy being smoked around them?
> My wife is against all brands!!!
It's rumored that women usually prefer the sweeter, fruit-flavored
aromatics, and last time I looked I clearly was a woman, but I don't. I
happen to like latakia, and so does Alan Peschke's wife, but we seem to
be in the minority.
As you're in Denmark, you could try MacBaren's Scottish Mixture - it's
perfectly inoffensive to most non-smokers (including me and our
daughters).
Irina
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RLBraunJr
>I'm curious though, does anyone smoke a particular blend because others say
>it smells good or (like me) smoke it for the taste? If you do smoke it for
>others, why?
I have tried, but given up. My wife enjoys the aroma of 1Q, Captain Black and
other vanilla aromatics, but I just can't stand them any longer. My regular is
EMP which she detests, but tolerates out of what must be true love.
-Bob
Louis J. Giliberto, Jr.
Peaches and Cream varieties are extremely popular. One tobacconist labels
his version "Marriage saver". I can't stand that taste, though. However,
I can settle for golden cavendish which is vanilla-like, and most women can
tolerate or like that. The most common form is Captain Black Gold (Lane).
Most tobacconists sell this in bulk in one form or another.
Women pipe smokers, however, have the same tastes as men. They don't seem
to mind anything you (or other female smokers) smoke. I was assuming your
wife is a non-pipe smoker. You have to remember that the smell to people
who aren't smoking is much different than to someone that is.
My wife will put up with anything but the heaviest Latakia blends. She
says they smell like "burning mule".
-Lou
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STEEN BYRGESEN JENSEN <spen...@post10.tele.dk> wrote in article
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> what kind of tobacco do women enjoy being smoked around them?
>
> My wife is against all brands!!!
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Steen
>
>
Relyug
I have read in the C&D literature that "This one has been called a marriage
saver......"
I plan on trying this one while strolling around campus!
-Steve
Bill Johnson
>I'm curious though, does anyone smoke a particular blend because others say
>it smells good or (like me) smoke it for the taste? If you do smoke it for
>others, why? I don't want to come across as overly insensitive but don't we
>smoke a pipe for our enjoyment?
I smoke tobaccos that I enjoy. However, I have occasionally
refrained from smoking a tobacco if my wife complains that it
irritates her bronchial asthma. In the last four years, she's
objected to only two blends that I was trying (samples from C&D). She
actually likes the aroma of the three tobaccos I smoke almost
exclusively, so this hasn't been a serious problem between us. With
so many different tobaccos from which to choose, it wasn't any great
sacrifice on my part to refrain from the only two that she found
physically objectionable.
Good Ol' BillyBob
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bil...@pacbell.net | eloquence. Government is force.
| And, like fire, it is a temperamental
| servant and a fearful master."
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Walter L. De Visser, Sr
Perhaps it is a "remembered" scent. By that I mean it may be that a
certain scent is associated with a certain person or type of person. Many
of us have remarked that we remember the scent of our Grandfather or
father's pipe tobacco. We recall climbing up on their knee and remember
the smell of the tobacco they smoked. I suspect that should I go to that
great pipe shop in the sky, my wife and children and even grandchildren
will associate a certain type tobacco with me (pleasantly I hope).
Oh, well, I smokes what I smokes!!
Walt
Michael George
That would be the apricots & cream. It is one of the most pleasant-smelling
tobaccos I've tried. It seems I'm not that big a fan of aromatics (I'm still
pretty new at this), but that A&C is very nice to the nose!
-Michael
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Louis J. Giliberto, Jr.
That's interesting that the smoke irritates your wife's asthma. I have
asthma myself and the pipe doesn't bother it unless I inadvertently inhale
a big blast.
That brings up and interesting question about C&D: I noticed a lot of
people here like it. Now, I won't claim to be any expert, but about a year
ago I ordered a sample pack from them. Most were non-aromatic and one apple
aromatic. I'd have to say it was one of the worst tobaccos I have ever
tried. The bag with the apple had one big wet spot apparently where
someone had sprayed the casing agent. The rest had no apple flavor until I
stirred it up. On top of that, the apple permeated everything around the
bag. I had to deodorize the entire area it was placed in after I pitched
it.
The non-aromatics were extremely disappointing, too. The only one I
remember the name of was the Three Friars which was supposed to taste like
Three Nuns. Not even close. I found all the tobaccos to contain extremely
thin leaf and all were extremely dry. It was not like any other pipe
tobacco I have ever had in my life. It seemed more like long-cut cigarette
tobacco.
Did I get a bad batch or what -- I find it hard to believe that all the
packages could be bad batches? Honestly, I'm kind of amazed at how many
people go past liking to almost singing the praises of it.... I've met
others who have not liked it, and they were even more critical of it.
Confused.....
-Lou
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Bill Johnson <bil...@pacbell.net> wrote in article
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Brad Wilson
>The non-aromatics were extremely disappointing, too. The only one I
>remember the name of was the Three Friars which was supposed to taste like
>Three Nuns. Not even close. I found all the tobaccos to contain extremely
>thin leaf and all were extremely dry. It was not like any other pipe
>tobacco I have ever had in my life. It seemed more like long-cut cigarette
>tobacco.
On their web page, they note that all marked english blends are not
moistened with anything but distilled water. If you get a tobacco that's
too dry, you can rehydrate by lightly spraying it with distilled water.
Some of the C&D tobaccos do indeed arrive very dry and need this. FWIW,
every C&D tobacco I've tried was great, though I agree that their
"smoke-alikes" don't seem to be very close, in my experience.
Of course, that was true of my Balkan Sobranie, too. The package had lost
its seal and the tobacco had dried out. Rehydration, and it was ready to
go, 24 hours later.
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"What objectivity and the study of philosophy requires is not an 'open
mind,' but an active mind - a mind able and eagerly willing to examine
ideas, but to examine them critically. " Philosophy: Who Needs It
Bill Triplett
My initial reaction was the same. However after leaving the tobak to age
for a couple of months I do not even recognize it as the same stuff. Now,
when I get it in the mail, it sits on a shelf for 30-60 before I open it.
BTW, they make one called plum duff. This stuff is great. Not only is it a
huge crowd pleasure at work, it tastes wonderful. I normally smoke
Stonehaven Blackpool Penzanze Margate University Flake and Dunhill tobak.
Plum Cake rates with the rest.
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Louis J. Giliberto, Jr. wrote in message
>That brings up and interesting question about C&D: I noticed a lot of
>people here like it. Now, I won't claim to be any expert, but about a year
>ago I ordered a sample pack from them. Most were non-aromatic and one apple
>aromatic. I'd have to say it was one of the worst tobaccos I have ever
>tried. The bag with the apple had one big wet spot apparently where
>someone had sprayed the casing agent. The rest had no apple flavor until I
>stirred it up. On top of that, the apple permeated everything around the
>bag. I had to deodorize the entire area it was placed in after I pitched
>it.
>
>The non-aromatics were extremely disappointing, too. The only one I
>remember the name of was the Three Friars which was supposed to taste like
>Three Nuns. Not even close. I found all the tobaccos to contain extremely
>thin leaf and all were extremely dry. It was not like any other pipe
>tobacco I have ever had in my life. It seemed more like long-cut cigarette
>tobacco.
>-Lou
Kurt Weiske
In article <6cejl1$g...@camel20.mindspring.com>, bil...@bigfoot.com says...
>when I get it in the mail, it sits on a shelf for 30-60 before I open it.
WOW. That's what I call self-control!
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SG Scorpio
>you can rehydrate by lightly spraying it with distilled water.
>Some of the C&D tobaccos do indeed arrive very dry and need this. FWIW,
>every C&D tobacco I've tried was great, though I agree that their
>"smoke-alikes" don't seem to be very close, in my experience.
I agree. The Pirate Kake was improved greatly with the re-hyration process
described above. We (4 co-workers) split up 20 samplers and found 5 or 6 quite
good, 5 or 6 smokeable and the balance well......mixed them all together with
some disstilled h2o and some PK and waiting for some aging to take place. LOL
I agree that the ones that were suppose to be a *copy* were not really close,
but I have found them to be a good smoke regardless. Tuggle Hall (copy of 965)
is quite good. Especially if you mix it with a little PK (Pirate Kake)RRRRRR
SG Scorpio {:{]=O~~~~~~
sgm...@icsnet1.com
In article <6cesfi$2h2$2...@news1.sirius.com>,
Sorry everyone,
But I *still* can't see why anyone would buy a tobacco that they have to
finish the processing on. Especially when there are so many tobaccos
available that have been properly aged by the blenders.
It seems to me that Mr. Tarler is making a poor product and expecting the
buyer to not only put up with C&Ds lack of principles but to finish C&Ds job
for them. I will not buy any product that is not properly made, especially
tobacco!
Puzzled,
Ivy K.
Brad Wilson
>I agree. The Pirate Kake was improved greatly with the re-hyration process
>described above.
Yep, the Pirate Kake was way too dry, and improved a TON with rehydration.
What a great full bodied Latakia taste!
richard bies
On Wed, 18 Feb 1998 sgm...@icsnet1.com wrote:
> In article <6cesfi$2h2$2...@news1.sirius.com>,
> kwe...@sirius.com (Kurt Weiske) wrote:
> >
> > In article <6cejl1$g...@camel20.mindspring.com>, bil...@bigfoot.com says...
> >
> > >when I get it in the mail, it sits on a shelf for 30-60 before I open it.
> >
> > WOW. That's what I call self-control!
> >
> Sorry everyone,
>
> But I *still* can't see why anyone would buy a tobacco that they have to
> finish the processing on. Especially when there are so many tobaccos
> available that have been properly aged by the blenders.
>
> It seems to me that Mr. Tarler is making a poor product and expecting the
> buyer to not only put up with C&Ds lack of principles but to finish C&Ds job
> for them. I will not buy any product that is not properly made, especially
> tobacco!
>
> Puzzled,
>
> Ivy K.
>
Some of these are judgement calls -- quite a few find C&D products just
fine as they arrive, and use them directly (without further ageing, or
addition of moisture). Surely those accustomed to US or Danish weed will
find them dry. Work fine for many.
There is discussion of the possible beneficial effects of ageing many
mixtures, not only C&D.
For that matter, at $1 per oz, a lot of people can put-up with a little
additional tailoring. He's probably missing the boat -- how about 2 oz of
Pirate Kake in a fancy tin box for $10? (Swashbuckle Revenge?) -- there's
the yuppie factor -- it's not high-priced enough.......
r.m.bies
Mike Berlyn
In message <01bd3c32$eab36a60$5d29...@krnlhkr.halcyon.com>, "Louis J.
Giliberto, Jr." <nospam_...@halcyon.com> wrote:
>
< snip >
> The non-aromatics were extremely disappointing, too. The only one I
> remember the name of was the Three Friars which was supposed to taste like
> Three Nuns. Not even close. I found all the tobaccos to contain extremely
> thin leaf and all were extremely dry. It was not like any other pipe
> tobacco I have ever had in my life. It seemed more like long-cut cigarette
> tobacco.
>
> packages could be bad batches? Honestly, I'm kind of amazed at how many
> people go past liking to almost singing the praises of it.... I've met
> others who have not liked it, and they were even more critical of it.
>
> Confused.....
>
> -Lou
>
>
Your experience pretty much matches mine, though I did enjoy his Odessa (958,
I think) enough to order a pound. I rehydrated it by spraying it lightly with
distilled water and tossing it, like the vegetable matter it truly is :) and
then put it away for 6 months. Now, it's really nice!
-- Mike
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http://www.martnet.com/~dejavu
(fullBent on #pipes)
Relyug
Lou,
I bought some Tuggle Hall from them. It was good tobacco, but honestly nothing
at all like 965. But then, nothing is (sigh.....)
However, Pirate Kake, now that is a MAN'S tobacco!!! And Craig Tarler is
great to deal with. I am a real fan of PK, and will be ordering 2 pounds every
month, one to smoke, and one to cellar. It does improve with age!
-Steve
THE SMOKING LAMP IS LIT!
Stephen M.H. Lawrence
Dubuque, Iowa (Cultural Hub of Western Civilization)
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Steve Ries
Richard, you are right!!!
Both my father and I are becoming big fans of Pirates Kake, both as a
straight smoke and as a tobacco fixer. For the $, this is very good
stuff!!!
Steve
Keith Beardsley
Kurt Weiske (kwe...@sirius.com) writes:
> In article <6cejl1$g...@camel20.mindspring.com>, bil...@bigfoot.com says...
>
>
>>when I get it in the mail, it sits on a shelf for 30-60 before I open it.
>
>
> WOW. That's what I call self-control!
>
> --
> /* Kurt Weiske -- kwe...@sirius.com */
>
I agree with Bill. There were some I ordered in the sample pack that I
didn't enjoy, so left them sitting in sealed mason jars. Tried them about
30-40 days later and found them a lot better. Not ones I would order as a
main tobacco, but worth smoking.
--
Keith Beardsley
From the nation's capital
Ottawa, Canada
Bill Triplett
ME, self control!?!? Nah, ordering waaaay in advance.
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Kurt Weiske wrote in message <6cesfi$2h2$2...@news1.sirius.com>...
Michael George
On Wed, 18 Feb 1998, sgm...@icsnet1.com <sgm...@icsnet1.com> wrote:
>
>Sorry everyone,
>
>But I *still* can't see why anyone would buy a tobacco that they have to
>finish the processing on. Especially when there are so many tobaccos
>available that have been properly aged by the blenders.
Well, we're really only talking about rehydrating. For myself, I find that
for the most part they are fine when they arrive. If they feel a bit dry by
the time I get to one, I will juice up and toss in a humidifier for a day or
so.
The aging for added enjoyment is not unique to C&D tobacco, many people do it
with many other more expensive tobaccos.
Another way to look at it, too, is that you are buying the product by weight,
not by volume. If it is a bit dry, that is all the more tobacco you are
getting per oz. Why pay for the water when you can add it yourself?
And finally, Craig is such a great person to deal with, I could overlook a
couple small drawbacks (though I don't see that I have to overlook any). I am
one who values good service very much.
>It seems to me that Mr. Tarler is making a poor product and expecting the
>buyer to not only put up with C&Ds lack of principles but to finish C&Ds job
>for them. I will not buy any product that is not properly made, especially
>tobacco!
Well, this *is* your choice. If you choose not to buy from C&D because you
don't want to bother w/ rehumidification then so be it. However, that leaves
you a far cry from justifying your accusing C&D of selling a "poor product"
and of having a "lack of principles".
Carl Hollomon
Kurt Weiske wrote:
>
> In article <6cejl1$g...@camel20.mindspring.com>, bil...@bigfoot.com says...
>
> >when I get it in the mail, it sits on a shelf for 30-60 before I open it.
>
> WOW. That's what I call self-control!
>
Oh, I don't know. 30 - 60 minutes isn't that bad. Why, I once left a
tin of Nightcap go unopened for half a day. Well, actually, that's only
because my wife didn't tell me the UPS man had come that afternoon and I
didn't see the package right away when I got home from work, but the
point is, 30 to 60 minutes doesn't require more self-control than most
of us could muster if we really had to, you know, like, in a pinch.
Say, you don't suppose he meant 30 - 60 DAYS, do you?
Nah. Nobody's that strong.
Carl, knowing a legend when I hear one
Toolman
In article <6cfh0t$vb1$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, sgm...@icsnet1.com wrote:
:But I *still* can't see why anyone would buy a tobacco that they have to
:finish the processing on. Especially when there are so many tobaccos
:available that have been properly aged by the blenders.
Well, one thing you are paying *high* dollar for in those is H2O. I don't know
about you, but I don't care to pay 10-100 times the price for water as I can
get at my own house. (Even for distilled water, 4 gallons = $1.00 - I have a
bottled machine).
A pound of any decent tin tobacco is going to cost one about $40 (minimum),
not $15-18.00. 3 for one? I'll take that and let time have it's way. And I'll
get more quantity than your pound, because I'm not paying for water.
Also, what blender do you know of that will fine tune _any_ blend one so
desires in any way one can think of? One might be able to find another blender
to do this, but for _free_? (no additional charge, that is) Probably not.
No principles and unfinished product? Nah. Good business. Specific market
strategy. The _most_ bang for the buck.
And as with all other industries, if one doesn't like a product/manufacturer,
one can spend one's $$ somewhere else. This is the basic premise of a free
market system. :)
Lastly, let me say I am not affiliated in any way with C&D, and I do purchase
other tobacco's - I'm partial to McClelland tinned blends. However, I am fully
happy with the service I get when I do purchase from Mr. Tarler.
-Joel
Bruce MacKenzie
Seems reasonable to me to buy C&D product for $15.00 a pound and
cellar it for a while instead of buying tinned tobacco which
averages $7.95 for 50 grams just so one can smoke it right away.
--
Bruce MacKenzie
Loghouse
>Well, one thing you are paying *high* dollar for in those is H2O. I don't
>know
>about you, but I don't care to pay 10-100 times the price for water as I can
>get at my own house.
>
>Also, what blender do you know of that will fine tune _any_ blend one so
>desires in any way one can think of? One might be able to find another
>blender
>to do this, but for _free_? (no additional charge, that is) Probably not.
>
I couldn't agree with you any more. Where I live a "tobacco shoppe" consists
of discounted carton cigs., a few boxes of cigars (White Owls, etc.) and some
cans of B.R, #79, etc. Criag has been very helpful in helping me to figure out
why I _was_ always getting a case of tounge bite. We figured out it is the PG
that is used in aromatic tobac. In fact after becomming aware of this I look
at a bottle of Vanilla and it was one of the indredents listed. Plus for some
reason I like the fact he used the USPS and not UPS, maybe it's because the
shippment get here quicker.
My next order will be going something like:
6 oz of #413
6 oz. of Red Virginia
4 oz of Black Cav.
I too am not affilitiated with C&D, just like/enjoy the service
Skip O
Weston, WV
Stephen P. Smith
Thus spake bil...@pacbell.net (Bill Johnson):
>In the last four years, she's
>objected to only two blends that I was trying (samples from C&D). She
>actually likes the aroma of the three tobaccos I smoke almost
>exclusively, so this hasn't been a serious problem between us.
Just out of curiosity, what are the five blends? Just wondering.
Steve Smith
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Stephen P. Smith
Thus spake Russell Clay <rc...@mars.superlink.net>:
>Hi Steen! Here's an idea: take your wife to the tobacco shop
>next time you go. Ask her to smell the different blends and pick
>one she likes. Make her feel that she is an important part of
>the process. Then smoke "her" blend from time to time.
Whoa! Good idea. If I can ever find a woman who'll have me for
longer than a week I'll have to remember that one. ;>)
Stephen P. Smith
With all due respect to Craig Tarler, who makes some of my very
favorite English blends, I find the Fruit 'n Cream variety of tobacco
is just too light for me. Nice aroma, but not much flavor.
Now when I smoke in my office or my home or car, I smoke what I like,
namely in-your-face latakia blends. But if I'm smoking in a public
place like a restaurant, or if I'm visiting a friend who's been
gracious enough to allow me to smoke in their home, I go easy on 'em
and smoke a particular aromatic that Peretti's whips us for me. It
contains BCA, 1Q, burley and latakia. The BCA and 1Q make it a crowd
pleaser, while the burley and latakia give it enough body to make it
enjoyable to yours truly.
Joseph Krakol
Try C&D's Plantation evening. For me, it's one of the best smokes I've
ever had. Not too heavy/ not too light, not too sweet/ not too bland.
It burns well to the bottom and doesn't goo up my pipes. And the price
is incredible. It's my favorite day-long tobacco.
Kurt Weiske
>On Wed, 18 Feb 1998, sgm...@icsnet1.com <sgm...@icsnet1.com> wrote:
>>But I *still* can't see why anyone would buy a tobacco that they have to
>>finish the processing on. Especially when there are so many tobaccos
>>available that have been properly aged by the blenders.
Yes! And why should I have to store my wines before drinking them?
>>It seems to me that Mr. Tarler is making a poor product and expecting the
>>buyer to not only put up with C&Ds lack of principles but to finish C&Ds job
>>for them.
I'm sure it seems that way to you.
>>I will not buy any product that is not properly made, especially
>>tobacco!
Great! That leaves more for us!
em...@olypen.com
In article <6cmtal$60h$1...@news1.sirius.com>,
My sentiments exactly. All together now: C&D SUCKS! Spread the word. Hee hee!
Michael
Bradley Morehouse
I started smoking a pipe three years ago and since then I have tried
more different types of tobacco than I care to think about. C & D is
definitely my favorite bulk. My tobacco shelf will always have a spot
for jars of "the big four" (Pirate Kake, Plantation Evening, Scottish
Blend, and Crowley's Best).
Brad Morehouse
Stephen P. Smith
Thus spake "Louis J. Giliberto, Jr." <nospam_...@halcyon.com>:
>Did I get a bad batch or what -- I find it hard to believe that all the
>packages could be bad batches? Honestly, I'm kind of amazed at how many
>people go past liking to almost singing the praises of it.... I've met
>others who have not liked it, and they were even more critical of it.
Because Craig uses no artificial humectants in his English blends,
they do tend to arrive dry, although he tells me that he has taken to
spritzing the tobacco with water prior to shipping to alleviate this.
Craig makes a *lot* of different blends, both aromatic and English.
Clearly, you're not going to like them all. OTOH, one of the nice
things about dealing with Craig is that he'll talk to you for hours if
need be to get a clear idea of what you're really looking for.
Chances are at least one of his blends will match what you're looking
for, and if not, he'll either tweak one of his existing blends or
create an entirely new blend for you.
I suspect you simply got some blends that weren't quite what you were
looking for. I suggest you talk to Craig and give him another chance.
Stephen P. Smith
Thus spake sgm...@icsnet1.com:
>But I *still* can't see why anyone would buy a tobacco that they have to
>finish the processing on. Especially when there are so many tobaccos
>available that have been properly aged by the blenders.
Aging blended tobacco is a very common process. Most tobaccos benefit
from it. Bear in mind that, unlike most so-called "tobacconists",
Craig actually blends many of his mixtures himself, and therefore they
benefit from extra time.
>It seems to me that Mr. Tarler is making a poor product and expecting the
>buyer to not only put up with C&Ds lack of principles but to finish C&Ds job
>for them.
Sorry, Ivy, but you're out of line with that one. If you don't like
C&D products, fine. If you think they make a "poor product", you are
entitled to your opinion, however much I may disagree with you.
But when you accuse Craig of a "lack of principles", then I must ask
you, have you ever done business with Craig? Ever tried his tobacco?
Have you ever even spoken with the man? I suspect not. Craig is one
of the finest gentlemen in this business, and making accusations such
as this is unfair and irresponsible (yes, there's that word again).
Seriously, Ivy, you really should look where your gun is pointed
before you pull the trigger.
Mike Cox
I recently had Craig fine tune a blend for me and now he is offering it
for sale.
It's called #061 Stratfordshire. I have gave some samples away to some
friends
and they for the most part like it. Craig mixes up the batches pretty
much on demand
and they will improve with age much like any fine wine liquor ect. You
really
have to like english tobac to like it , most people in my violin shop
comment
they find the aroma apealing as well. {Imagine That !}.Really do like
most of the
english mixtures Craig has to offer except those that have burley in
them.
If you like virginia based blends this is a really good clean burning
mix.
I think most of the big blending house stuff is far to wet to smoke good
,
prob. to make them more weight {hey water's pretty cheap eh ?} plus
they most likely get some benefit of age in the distributers warehouse
from
sitting around .I used to smoke canned tobac pretty much all the time
{dunhill med rattrays tree noggins} and I will say that it sure is nice
to have
a good source for very bulk tobac , much better than what I used to get
at the
tinder box I worked part time for many years. Craig sure knows how to
treat
people right as far as I can tell .
Best Regards
mike cox
mi...@astring.com
http://www.astring.com
Russell Clay
Right on, Steve! Craig is one of the nicest and most knowledgeable tobac
blenders in the world. Stallone may make a bad movie (in fact, that may be
all he makes), and my girlfriend makes lousy breakfast, but Craig just don't
make no "bad" batches of tobacco!