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Martin Romijn

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Nov 12, 2007, 2:10:37 PM11/12/07
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Hi ASP,

I own 2 meer lined hilson fantasia pipes, great looking pipes and they smoke
real good. Well...1 of them did... until I broke the meer inside the bowl
.....
Is there a way to get it fixed or is this pipe from now on only nice to look
at ?

Regards,
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Martin Romijn
http://www.romijntampers.tk

" I wish I was a vulcano.... I could lay down on my back, smoking all
day...... and everyone would say : he's active ! !


Jim Beard

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Nov 12, 2007, 6:13:45 PM11/12/07
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Martin Romijn wrote:
> I own 2 meer lined hilson fantasia pipes, great looking pipes and they smoke
> real good. Well...1 of them did... until I broke the meer inside the bowl
> .....
> Is there a way to get it fixed or is this pipe from now on only nice to look
> at ?

I have very good luck gluing broken meerschaums with Krazy Glue.

Are the pieces such that you can apply a very thin coating of
the glue to the pieces and fit them back in where they belong?
Or can you remove the meer lining, glue it back together, and
then get it back in?

If your answer to either question is yes, be careful not to
glue yourself to the meerschaum!

Cheers!

jim b.

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Donnie

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Nov 12, 2007, 7:39:10 PM11/12/07
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Would the heat cause fumes? That just doesnt seem safe to me.

~Donnie

Bert Olton

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Nov 12, 2007, 7:43:37 PM11/12/07
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Jim Beard wrote:
> Martin Romijn wrote:
>> I own 2 meer lined hilson fantasia pipes, great looking pipes and they
>> smoke real good. Well...1 of them did... until I broke the meer inside
>> the bowl .....
>> Is there a way to get it fixed or is this pipe from now on only nice
>> to look at ?
>
> I have very good luck gluing broken meerschaums with Krazy Glue.
>
> Are the pieces such that you can apply a very thin coating of
> the glue to the pieces and fit them back in where they belong?
> Or can you remove the meer lining, glue it back together, and
> then get it back in?
>
> If your answer to either question is yes, be careful not to
> glue yourself to the meerschaum!
>
> Cheers!
>
> jim b.
>
Hello Martin,

Mr. Beard's suggestion is the most logical, economical and practical
choice, if as he asks, your broken meer lining pieces are reusable.

If however they are not, I thought of three other options.

The first thought was to send your pipe to the maker for repair. That
is probably not a viable idea however, since after a brief perusal of
Hilson history on line, it seems they're probably out of business. Jim
undoubtedly knew that, but I'd never heard of the brand before. It is,
though, an interesting mark. The Fantasia model seems to have been a
particularly nicely done design for meer lined pipes. The photos
available on line from old Iwan Ries Catalogs and catalogs from Tobacco
Retailer's Almanac, the Tinderbox and a couple of others, ranging from
1962 to 1979 are of some very handsome pipes! For some examples, check
out the links at:

<http://chriskeene.com/hilson.htm>

My second thought was this; I've got several pre-made meerschaum pipe
liners. I seriously doubt that they're the correct size for your pipe,
but if you'd like to try to adapt one to your bowl, I'd be glad to send
one to you. If so, just email me at the address on this message.

The third thought I had was to tap one of the pipe makers here on ASP.
I'm not sure if any of them work with meer linings, but I bet one of
them might be willing to give it a try.

Here's hoping Jim's suggestion works for you - it would be the easiest!

Best regards,
Bert
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darkflake

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Nov 12, 2007, 10:14:25 PM11/12/07
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Hello, Martin.

The Hilson name now belongs to H. Goebbels, Royal Dutch Pipe Company.
It might be worth your time to contact them and ask if repair is
possible through them. If not, MTinsky might be your best bet.

HTH

Cheers,
Frank
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Martin Romijn

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Nov 13, 2007, 12:46:24 PM11/13/07
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Thanks to you all for the advice !
well, there are no pieces left, so, glue them back in is not an option.
Bert, verry generous of you to offer me a pre-made meerschaum pipe liner,
but the change it would fit is verry small I think.... the pipe it's all
about is marked with a B in this picture http://pipepages.com/4tbox11

Regards
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Martin Romijn
http://www.romijntampers.tk/

Bert Olton

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Nov 13, 2007, 7:25:25 PM11/13/07
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Martin Romijn wrote:
> Thanks to you all for the advice !
> well, there are no pieces left, so, glue them back in is not an option.
> Bert, verry generous of you to offer me a pre-made meerschaum pipe liner,
> but the change it would fit is verry small I think.... the pipe it's all
> about is marked with a B in this picture http://pipepages.com/4tbox11
>
> Regards


Martin,

I just dug out those meerschaum liners I mentioned. I hadn't looked at
them in years. Not only do I have more of them than I remembered, but
they're a lot taller than I'd remembered. These are for a fairly deep
bowled pipe design. Looking at the picture of your pipe, I think one of
these just might work. They measure 1 3/4 inches tall, with an outside
diameter of 1 1/16 inches. Send me your mailing address - it's worth a try!

pipe_smoker

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Nov 14, 2007, 1:18:29 PM11/14/07
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This thread is the first one I've seen that mentions Hilson Pipes.
IMHO Hilson's are one of the most under rated pipes I've seen. thats
good for me when they come up on e-bay because I win them for not to
many "bucks". I now have four and am looking for more.
I smoked a Hilson Fantasia back in the '60 and can't rember if the
pipe was some sort of meerschaum lined "plastic" or what it was made
of. The idea of fiting a meer lining to your pipe sound like your best
bet. When mine broke I just s**t caned the whole pipe.
Pipe_Smoker in L. A. .
Sorry I didn't meen to hijack this thread.

Martin Romijn

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Nov 14, 2007, 4:10:50 PM11/14/07
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Mail is sent Bert, the sizes of the liner seem to be perfect !

" I wish I was a vulcano.... I could lay down on my back, smoking all
day...... and everyone would say : he's active ! !

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Martin Romijn

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Nov 14, 2007, 4:20:26 PM11/14/07
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> This thread is the first one I've seen that mentions Hilson Pipes.
> IMHO Hilson's are one of the most under rated pipes I've seen. thats
> good for me when they come up on e-bay because I win them for not to
> many "bucks". I now have four and am looking for more.
> I smoked a Hilson Fantasia back in the '60 and can't rember if the
> pipe was some sort of meerschaum lined "plastic" or what it was made
> of. The idea of fiting a meer lining to your pipe sound like your best
> bet. When mine broke I just s**t caned the whole pipe.
> Pipe_Smoker in L. A. .
> Sorry I didn't meen to hijack this thread.

I think so too about the the Hilson pipes. I have 3 of them, 2 meerschaum
lined "plastic" Fantasia, made in Belgium. And 1 Briar Hilson, made by
Goebbels, Royal Dutch Pipe Company that The Hilson name now belongs to. The
same company that makes Big Ben pipes, also quite under rated pipes IMHO.

Regards,
--
Martin Romijn
http://www.romijntampers.tk

" I wish I was a vulcano.... I could lay down on my back, smoking all

Bert Olton

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Nov 14, 2007, 6:44:29 PM11/14/07
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Martin Romijn wrote:
> Mail is sent Bert, the sizes of the liner seem to be perfect !
>

Hey Martin,

Very cool! Address received. You should have the liner in about a week.

Bert Olton

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Nov 24, 2007, 12:09:11 PM11/24/07
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Bert Olton wrote:
> Martin Romijn wrote:
>> Mail is sent Bert, the sizes of the liner seem to be perfect !
>>
>
> Hey Martin,
>
> Very cool! Address received. You should have the liner in about a week.
>
> Bert


Just an update: Got an email from Martin this morning...the liner
arrived and almost fits...he's going to do a little trimming then drill
the air passage and enlarge the bowl, but it looks like it might work.

Martin Romijn

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Nov 25, 2007, 6:16:34 AM11/25/07
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> Just an update: Got an email from Martin this morning...the liner arrived
> and almost fits...he's going to do a little trimming then drill the air
> passage and enlarge the bowl, but it looks like it might work.
>
> Bert

yep, the Liner arrived on friday, thanks bert !!
I've been bussy last night to make the liner fit, had to make it a little
smaller at the bottom. I'm almost there now, it has to go just 1 or 2 mm
deeper in to the bowl but it's hard to see where to remove some more meer to
make it fit perfect. I colloured the walls of the bowl with some ash so I
can see where the liner touches the walls.
I hope to drill the air passage today if I can make the liner fit perfect.
When I drill through the shank now I enter the liner almost at the bottom. I
want to enter the liner a little higher to make sure not to brake of the
bottom. On the other hand..... when I mark the spot where the drill hits the
liner I can take the liner out and drill a little more upward. This way I
will enter the liner richt in the center of the tobacco chamber. Still not
sure what's the best thing to do. Also still wondering what kind of glue I
should use to attach the liner to the bowl..... Anny sugestions ?

Martin Romijn

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Nov 28, 2007, 1:27:28 PM11/28/07
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Last night I did some more shaping on the liner. Made a mould and some
imprints, trimmed the liner a little more with sandpaper and finally the
liner fits perfectly into the bowl.
I decided to do the drilling before placing the liner in the bowl. I marked
the spot through the shank, removed the liner again and started drilling.
Ended exactly in the center of the heel.
After that I started drilling the tobaccoroom. Verry carefull, by hand,
afraid to brake the fragile liner. It all worked out pretty well. Have to
ream the liner a little bit more and then it's ready to be placed in the
bowl.. It seems like my first pipe restoration is going to work out just
fine. The pipe will be back in my rotation and I had a verry nice time
fixing it..

Regards,
--
Martin Romijn
http://www.romijntampers.tk

" I wish I was a vulcano.... I could lay down on my back, smoking all

Martin Romijn

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Jan 21, 2008, 2:40:14 PM1/21/08
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Today I fiished my meer liner project. I finaly deceided what glue to use,
after I had some advise from Mark Tinsky. After the liner was glued in to
place I've given it some time to dry and today I reamed the liner a little
more and polished the rim of the liner and pipe. I'm verry happy with the
result and I'm smoking the pipe at this moment. It smokes just as good as it
did before I broke it, maybe even better after all the time I've worked on
it ... I'm glad to have it back in my rotation.

" I wish I was a vulcano.... I could lay down on my back, smoking all


day...... and everyone would say : he's active ! !

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