Hardcastle Question
LenrdZelig
was Item #284688926 if you want to look it up in completed auctions - there is
a picture). I was going to due the usual "salt/Everclear" treatment to the
bowl and noticed I was unable to get the pipe cleaner through to the bottom of
the bowl. When I removed the mouthpiece and looked into the shank it appeared
to have a shaft that goes under the back of the bowl, similar to the Peterson
that I have. I was able to get the pipe cleaner in the bowl with some
"wiggling" and continued with the cleaning process.
My question is this: Is this a system type pipe made by Hardcastle? I've
never owned one of these before (bought it assuming it was a Dunhill "2nd" so I
figured the quality would be good). I've not smoked it yet so I can not
venture a guess as to the characteristics of it. It looks like a group 2 or 3
with a 1/2 bent stem. Also the number "46" is stamped on the underside of the
shank.
Also, was it a good deal? After seeing so many pipes go on Ebay for so
much money (frequently more than they are worth IMHO, although if the person is
willing to buy them then so much better for the seller) I got to wondering if
indeed this was a "find" or if perhaps even the price I paid was too much for
what it was. It does have a nice straight grain and a few birdseyes on the
bottom of the bowl, and in general is nice looking. Will report back on the
smoking quality as soon as the alcohol dries and I can scrape the salt crud
out.
Any ideas/ suggestions as to this pipe?
Thanks in advance
Jim Beard
>I recently acquired a nice Harcastle Jockey Club pipe on Ebay for $13.19
>to have a shaft that goes under the back of the bowl, similar to the Peterson
> My question is this: Is this a system type pipe made by Hardcastle?
Many pipe makers have made some pipes with the well or sump pit that
is a feature of the Peterson System pipe. It sounds like you have
one.
>never owned one of these before (bought it assuming it was a Dunhill "2nd" so I
Buying a Hardcastle on the theory that it is a Dunhill second is
sort of like buying a low-end Chevy on the theory it is a Cadillac
second. The odds of a Hardcastle starting off in the Dunhill
factory are maybe 1 out of a thousand, or more likely 1 out of
10,000. The odds on a Parker being a Dunhill second are better, but
not much better.
> Also, was it a good deal? After seeing so many pipes go on Ebay for so
>much money (frequently more than they are worth IMHO, although if the person is
>willing to buy them then so much better for the seller) I got to wondering if
>indeed this was a "find" or if perhaps even the price I paid was too much for
>what it was. It does have a nice straight grain and a few birdseyes on the
>bottom of the bowl, and in general is nice looking. Will report back on the
>smoking quality as soon as the alcohol dries and I can scrape the salt crud
>out.
Off hand, without seeing the pipe, I would guess that you did all
right. If it smokes well, you got a bargain! If not, no great
amount of money lost.
Cheers!
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Juha Lankinen
>Buying a Hardcastle on the theory that it is a Dunhill second is
>sort of like buying a low-end Chevy on the theory it is a Cadillac
>second. The odds of a Hardcastle starting off in the Dunhill
>factory are maybe 1 out of a thousand, or more likely 1 out of
>10,000. The odds on a Parker being a Dunhill second are better, but
>not much better.
What about Savory's Argyll? www.pipes.org mentions them as possible Dunhill
seconds. I have a Savory's Argyll in the cherrywood shape, sandblast with a
reddish/black stain, that looks quite a lot like some Dunhill Shells I've seen
listed on eBay. I'm not really dissappointed if it turned out not to be a
Dunhill 2nd - I got it cheap from eBay, and it smokes really well.
Juha Lankinen
Helsinki, Finland
Jim Beard
>In article <0tskesss9tn9u68qs...@4ax.com>,
>Jim Beard <j...@blckhrse.clark.net> wrote:
>>Buying a Hardcastle on the theory that it is a Dunhill second is
>>sort of like buying a low-end Chevy on the theory it is a Cadillac
>>second. The odds of a Hardcastle starting off in the Dunhill
>>factory are maybe 1 out of a thousand, or more likely 1 out of
>>10,000. The odds on a Parker being a Dunhill second are better, but
>>not much better.
>
>What about Savory's Argyll? www.pipes.org mentions them as possible Dunhill
>seconds.
Odds are better than for the Hardcastle, but not as good as for the
Parker.
> I have a Savory's Argyll in the cherrywood shape, sandblast with a
>reddish/black stain, that looks quite a lot like some Dunhill Shells I've seen
>listed on eBay. I'm not really dissappointed if it turned out not to be a
>Dunhill 2nd - I got it cheap from eBay, and it smokes really well.
If it looks like a Dunhill, it may very well have started out with
aspirations to become one. But only the pipemaker knows for sure.
And he won't tell.<grin>