Pipe tobacco and alcohol
Comcast
I like to smoke pipe, but I just found out that pipe tobacco contains
alcohol. I do not want to smoke tobacco that contains alcohol. I usually
get my tobacco at Up In Smoke in Dallas, Texas. Do I have any choices as
far as non-alcoholic tobacco, or all different kinds of tobacco contains
alcohol?
Thank you in advance.
Ken Dixon
Ken in Miami
Comcast
(rum, etc). It very well could be wrong!
"Ken Dixon" <Kdixo...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Ken Dixon
> A friend of mine told me that pipe tobacco is usually soaked in alcohol
> (rum, etc). It very well could be wrong!
>
Your friend is not entirely correct. Some blends do use liquor as a
flavoring agent but not all.
Ken in Miami
mikeG
> Comcast wrote:
>
> > A friend of mine told me that pipe tobacco is usually soaked in alcohol
> > (rum, etc). It very well could be wrong!
Another frequent poster here eschews tobaccos "topnoted" with any alcohol
based flavoring.
Is your request based on some religious tenet?
Mike
Briarroot
> I like to smoke pipe, but I just found out that pipe tobacco
> contains alcohol. I do not want to smoke tobacco that contains
> alcohol. I usually get my tobacco at Up In Smoke in Dallas, Texas.
> Do I have any choices as far as non-alcoholic tobacco, or all
> different kinds of tobacco contains alcohol?
>
> A friend of mine told me that pipe tobacco is usually soaked in
> alcohol (rum, etc). It very well could be wrong!
Only a few blends are flavored with alcoholic beverages and
such information is usually prominently displayed on the tin
or package as a selling point since many people enjoy these
flavors. If the tin doesn't mention any sort of alcoholic
flavoring, you can bet there is none. Ask your tobacconist
if your still not sure.
Rum, bourbon, and scotch are some of the typical flavorings
that are used with pipe tobacco. Note that when this kind
of tobacco is smoked, the alcohol tends to evaporate quickly
due to the heat of combustion. You're in no danger of getting
drunk! ;-)
Regards,
Tim Parker ... VA#1 in a no-name bulldog
Gene McCluney
"Comcast" <NoS...@comcast.net> wrote:
I wouldn't think this would be a significant concern.
While it is true that some pipe tobaccos have liquor flavors
added, such as "Rum" and such, alcohol evaporates quite fast,
and would not be present in the tobacco by the time you put
a match to it. Only the flavor ingredients would remain.
Alcohol is used as a carrier for the flavor for the express
reason that it evaporates completely, just leaving the flavor.
Matured virginias, English mixtures and such are just natural
tobacco, of course aged and blended.
Gene McCluney
P.S. Most kitchen flavor extracts, Real Vanilla, Maple, etc, used in
baking are in alcohol, but the alcohol evaporates in the cooking
process of the cake, pie, cookie, etc.
Ian Rastall
wrote:
> Do I have any choices as
> far as non-alcoholic tobacco, or all different kinds of tobacco contains
> alcohol?
You're more likely to find it in aromatics. Also, Greg Pease uses
alcohol in Barbary Coast, Mephisto, and Haddo's Delight. G&H uses it
in Rum Flake. Can't think of any others at the moment.
Ian
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DrBlues
wrote:
>Hello,
As a good friend of Bill W I have no problem with alcohol flavored
tobacco, I mean I never get a buzz from it, so if that is you're
concern don't worry about it. If it is a problem or could lead to a
problem RUN. And YOU know you know. I go anywhere I want as long as I
am spiritualy fit, including biketoberfest, biker clubhouses and
occasionally bars. It is my duty as good asper to be on bikini patrol
at all times. It is my duty to keep you updated. If it is for
religious reasons well hell I dunno what to tell ya.
T
OFFO
Tarek Manadily
blenders would most likely use alcohol, either as the main flavor (Rum,
etc.) or as a flavor carrier. With other kinds of tobaccos (pressed or
unpressed VAs, Latakia mixtures, etc), it's usually safe, as long as there
is no mention of alcohol. If you have the experience, you *may* be able to
get further verification once you've tried the tobacco.
Having said that, I do no touch ANY MacBaren tobaccos. I used to like Navy
Flake, and once I contacted the general manager of MacBaren to inquire if it
had alcohol. He tried to make a fool out of me, while making a complete
fool out of himself; he said that "ALL tobaccos, regardless of the blender,
have to contain alcohol".
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Tarek
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Flake, and once I contacted the general manager of MacBaren to inquire if it
had alcohol. He tried to make a fool out of me, while making a complete
fool out of himself; he said that "ALL tobaccos, regardless of the blender,
have to contain alcohol". >>
While I categorically support your wish to avoid whatever you wish to avoid, I
don't understand the objection. If a flavoring were carried by something other
than alcohol -- water, for instance -- would that be all right? If that is
acceptable, and if your objection is to the ethanol itself, I have to agree
with the other posters that any alcohol, even that contained in, say, rum
(which is more than half water in any event -- I doubt any blenders use
151-proof) would evaporate long before it reached the store, let alone your
palate. Ethanol is extraordinarily volatile and evaporates quickly. I once
brought a cold bottle of pure grain alcohol into a warm house from a cold car
(it's a great cleaner) and it actually boiled when I opened it. I have a
little science demonstration toy consisting of a double vial sort of like an
hourglass partially filled with ethanol. When you hold the liquid-filled half
in your hand, your body heat causes it to boil into the other half of the vial.
In this case, ethanol is merely a chemical tool and contributes no more (and
no less) to the experience of smoking than adding red wine to a marinara sauce
does to eating. Is it a religious objection, the point being not so much that
it's there now (I'm sure it's not) but that it was ever there in the first
place?
Jack
Justin
evaporates at around 160 degrees (which is also why you don' t get drunk
when you cook with it). Not sure what the temperature inside your pipe is,
but I'd guess its more than 160.
If you object on ethical grounds, just look for something not flavored and
you will be in the clear.
justin
Justin
almost to the bottom of the tin.
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MWR
MWR
"Tarek Manadily" :
Mark Tinsky
<NoS...@comcast.net> wrote:
As long as your avoiding alcohol-ed tobaccos I d stay away from
another major brand called Arsenic and Old Lace. You can only
imagine what that s laced with !
Smoking tobacco can be a very worrisome thing at times;
no wonder the guvment puts all those fancy lables on tins....
MT
Bonaquisti
guvment puts all those fancy lables on tins....
> MT<<
The only time I reccomend mixing alcohol and tobacco is in preparation of
smoking a Tinsky pipe.
Regardless of the tobacco, having a few shots before hand does make the whole
experience infinitely more tolerable... or at least it seems that way.
PB
Tarek Manadily
There are two main reasons why I don't smoke tobaccos flavored with alcohol:
1. Consumption of alcohol is prohibited in my religion (Muslim); and
2. I don't like flavored tobaccos in general.
I fully agree with your science- and logic-based conclusion, but I have a
personal rule: If I'm not 100% comfortable with something, I just don't do
it. I also don't eat food that was cooked with alcohol or use vinegar that
used to be wine, though some practicing Muslims do.
I would probably reconsider that personal decision if all the tobaccos, and
the food, in the world contained alcohol. Luckily, for me, that is
basically an impossibility!
Yours, with some Dark Bird's Eye burning in a Jacono "Jack" Dublin-Lovat and
accompanied by a first flush, SFTGFOP1 Darjeeling.
--
Tarek
PS: if you hit reply, you'll never reach me ;-) Just check the spelling of
my name before the "@".
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"JHowell982" <jhowe...@aol.com> wrote in message
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dgr...@cs.csbuak.edu
> I shun away from flavored tobaccos in general, since it is there that
> blenders would most likely use alcohol, either as the main flavor (Rum,
> etc.) or as a flavor carrier. With other kinds of tobaccos (pressed or
> unpressed VAs, Latakia mixtures, etc), it's usually safe, as long as there
> is no mention of alcohol. If you have the experience, you *may* be able to
> get further verification once you've tried the tobacco.
> Having said that, I do no touch ANY MacBaren tobaccos. I used to like Navy
> Flake, and once I contacted the general manager of MacBaren to inquire if it
> had alcohol. He tried to make a fool out of me, while making a complete
> fool out of himself; he said that "ALL tobaccos, regardless of the blender,
> have to contain alcohol".
\pendant{
Since fermentation is a critical process of preparing tobacco (and tea!)
for use, it does indeed contain alcohol. So does cocoa, but it gets
driven off by the time the cocoa powder is turned into chocolate.
}
--
David Griffith
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Mark Tinsky
bonaq...@aol.com (Bonaquisti) wrote:
Please excuse Paul, he must have imbibed a few too many of the
aforementioned shots before he wrote this and somehow confused my
pipes with his own ....
Granted, as he poorly copies most of his designs from me, I can
see in a bleary state how he could make a mistake; but remember
Paul ( for future reference)
Yours have the cheaply impressed "B" ( filled with white out or K
Mart' s economy white house paint) on the stem, mine has the solid
rasied sterling silver star with black enamel backing . This should
help you with the confusion!
MT
M
A.T. Barr
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JHowell982
personal rule: If I'm not 100% comfortable with something, I just don't do
it. I also don't eat food that was cooked with alcohol or use vinegar that
used to be wine, though some practicing Muslims do. >>
Fair enough. FWIW, I dimly recall a P&T story on Samuel Gawith tobaccos, that
they used distilled water to add their casings. I tend not to like flavored
tobaccos, either, but some of those that I do like have a little something
added. Whew, hard to believe all the Borkum Riff Rum I smoked in college.
Jack
Waiting for my cold/cough to clear up so I can smoke *something* already
Mark Tinsky
jhowe...@aol.com (JHowell982) wrote:
>
> Fair enough. FWIW, I dimly recall a P&T story on Samuel Gawith tobaccos,
> that
> they used distilled water to add their casings.
Humph tastes to me like they re using lemon pledge or some kind of
furniture polish. Can t get by that initial taste MT
Comcast
if it is a religious concern, the answer is yes. Just like Tarek, I am a
Muslim, and stay away from alcohol whether it be in drinks, food, or
whatever else. Besides, I do not like alcohol anyway. I do understand the
science that alcohol evaporates before I smoke it, but I would rather not
touch anything that has anything to do with alcohol -- it's just a matter of
principle.
So the concensus on the issue is that I should stay away from flavored
tobaccos, which I do not care for anyway! Also some friends here mentioned
that the alcohol ingridient should be listed on the label. The tobacco I
usually get is not tinned -- it is in jars at the store I get it from. I
thought about asking the tobacconist, but I thought this group will be able
to give me a better answer -- which it did!
Thank you everyone for the replies once again!
Haroon.
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Ian Rastall
<jho...@polisci.umn.edu> wrote:
> I didn't realize Haddo's had it. I certainly hadn't noticed it, and I'm
> almost to the bottom of the tin.
The thing about Haddo's being topped with rum may be more of a
rumor.
Tarek Manadily
tobaccos.
It's Mark Tinsky who started it, Mr. Gawith ;-)
--
Tarek
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Stephen K. Jones
wrote:
>Hello,
Up in Smoke stocks a variety of natural tobaccos in addition to the
bulks in the jars on the counter. The selection seems to vary amongst
their locations. The store on Northwest Highway between 75 and
Preston had a nice selection of tins the last time I was there. I was
killing some time at the Galleria yesterday before a business
appointment, and stopped in that store. The selection did not seem
nearly as good as the Northwest Highway store.
I rarely buy tobacco at Up in Smoke, because I find their prices to be
very high. The same tobaccos can be purchased at a number of online
shops for half Up in Smoke's prices, or less.
If you're in the neighborhood, you might visit Edwards, on the SE
corner of Beltline and Coit. I find the folks there to be much more
knowledgeable about pipes, and it's a nice place to hang out for a
while.
Not affiliated with any of the above, and YMMV.
Justin
Bernie
>
> The thing about Haddo's being topped with rum may be more of a
> rumor.
>
Topped might not be the right word but I distinctly smelt rum the first time
I opened my first tin and posted a question about it. I think Greg confirmed
it is used in Haddo's at the time. This was a year to 18 months ago.
--
Bernie
" Just think E=MC2 may not have come about if Albert didn't have his pipe"
John Grubb
JHowell982
furniture polish. Can t get by that initial taste MT >>
Yes, but does lemon pledge contain alcohol?
JH
Comcast
out.
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Joe LaVigne
says...
> A friend of mine told me that pipe tobacco is usually soaked in alcohol
> (rum, etc). It very well could be wrong!
It was.
The only tobaccoes that are treated this way are those that are
flavored. For instance, Whiskey Flavored tobaccoes are topped or cased
with Whiskey.
There are MANY natural, un-topped blends. There are also many aromatics
(cherry, vanilla, etc) that do not use booze.
Of course, even if they do, you are not ingesting any alcohol. Alcohol
evaporates very quickly, and all that remains on the leaf is flavoring.
Then, you introduce fire. Any alcohol that could have survived the
evaporation process would be gone in a second. Alcohol burns off quick.
If you are concerned about this, though, you can find MANY mild smokes
that are natural.
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