Small Bowl Pipe?
Bill Brown
Hi...
Wondering if anyone knows if any of the "major" manufacturers make a small
bowl pipe?
Something for a 10-15 minute smoke...
Thanks!
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James D. Beard
bbr...@icon.net (Bill Brown) on 18 Jun 1996 in <bbrown-1806...@okc179.icon.net> wrote,
>> Wondering if anyone knows if any of the "major" manufacturers make a small
>> bowl pipe?
>>
>> Something for a 10-15 minute smoke...
>>
a great many of the tiny ones (often favored by ladies), Peterson makes a
Small Calabash and a Belgique, and on and on. Small bowls, particularly
those with thin walls, do tend to smoke hot, however. They are unpopular
for that reason alone, and because of their unpopularity most tobacconists
do not stock them.
The next time you are at your local pipe purveyor's, ask to see what he
has that is small (he may have something under the counter, or in the
store room), and if he has nothing ask what he could order for you.
If you really want a pipe that _must_ be smoked very gently.
Alternatively, fill a normal bowl one-quarter or one-third full. This
has the added advantage of helping to build cake in the bottom of the
bowl, something that often suffers when smoking a large bowl of tobacco
and finding it not quite worth the effort to finish it off properly.
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redbat
On Jun 18, 1996 19:55:22 in article <Re: Small Bowl Pipe?>, '"James D.
I have some small danish freehands, Nording and others. They do not smoke
hot if I take care with how I puff. Also some head shops have small
meerschaums which work well, but are naturally fragile. I also find that
the sandblasts seem to smoke a bit cooler because of the larger surface
area. Is this only my imagination?
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Redbat
IRAFSTONE
Hi,
One of the extra advantages I've discovered since purchasing a Kirsten
pipe a few weeks ago, that is, besides the fact that I love the way it
smokes, the way it is always dry, cleans up fast and can be smoked almost
forever, is the fact that among their choice of bowl sizes is what they
call a medium columbus bowl, but which I call small. Fifteen minutes max
and great for working back and forth from lunch to work.
Ira
Glenn Godsey
> >bbr...@icon.net (Bill Brown) on 18 Jun 1996 in
> ><bbrown-1806...@okc179.icon.net> wrote,
> >>> Wondering if anyone knows if any of the "major" manufacturers make a
> small
> >>> bowl pipe?
> >>>
> >>> Something for a 10-15 minute smoke...
> bbr...@icon.net (Bill Brown) on 18 Jun 1996 in
<bbrown-1806...@okc179.icon.net> wrote,
> >> Wondering if anyone knows if any of the "major" manufacturers make a small
> >> bowl pipe?
> >>
> >> Something for a 10-15 minute smoke...
When I have time for a large or medium large bowl, I love my Caminettos. But,
like you, I sometimes want a smaller bowl (especially since the health nazis
have suceeded in running us outdoors).
I have found that smallish Petersons work very well and also small Stanwells. I
have one very old Butz-Choquin; a tall skinny Dublin with a fairly thick cake
that is great for a quick "intermission" smoke. I find that, for me, tall skinny
bowls generally work better than short fat bowls for a quick smoke.
Let me hasten to add that Redbat is quite correct - a small bowl tends to
burn hotter. But if you have a good quality pipe you can learn to automatically
compensate. I also agree with Redbat ( where did you get that name? I feel like
I'm in a comic strip) that sandblasts and carved smoke cooler than smooths. Let
me hasten to add that "quickly" is not the best way to smoke a pipe. "Tranquil
and timeless" is the best way to smoke a pipe. Alas, we don't live in tranquil
times and sometimes we have to take what we can get.
*Another Old Codger Tip from G.G.* - For the last several years I have carried
in my pocket a small rectangle of leather about 1 1/2" by 3" or big enough to
cover a typical pipe bowl when doubled. This serves two purposes:1) when ambling
with a smoking pipe, I can cover the bowl with the pad and my thumb to enter a
store or other no smoking areas without having to empty my pipe, and 2) by
covering the bowl for 30 or forty seconds,the pipe can be extinguished if
necessary. Before I discovered this trick, I frequently found myself digging
with a pipe tool to dump a nearly full smoking bowl, sometimes with no ash trays
in sight.
In more civilized times, such manipulations weren't necessary, but I, for one,
refuse to be completely banished to my room even in these tobacco-hysterical
times.
Happy smoking,
Glenn Godsey
Urs Grob
Dear Co-smokers,
I love to try out new tobaccos, mainly English mixtures, but I also
appreciate quality aromatics for a change (I mean those tobaccos that still
smell and taste like tobacco). Still, like most of you I always come back to
a few chosen ones. Among them is Dunhill's Early Morning Pipe Mixture. What
a feeling to see such constant quality, what a delightful complex character!
Now, only a few minutes ago I had a closer look at the tin (kind of a new
look at an old friend). What I saw stroke me. "A mild delicately flavoured
smoking mixture" ... "made in the U.K.". "Flavoured"? Could it possibly be
that Dunhill treats an English mixture with a top flavour, that they might
even use a casing? Didn't I wonder about the last tins no longer drying out,
despite of the high temperatures and the low humidity we have had for some
time now in Switzerland? Suddenly I remember having read somewhere (in the
last Pipe magazine?) that Murray & Sons Inc. in Ireland produces some of the
Dunhill blends. Is there a silent erinmorization of the English mixtures or
am I just getting neurotic?
Light, more light please!
Regards,
Urs
Irwin Friedman
Urs:
All of the tinned Dunhill tobacco is manufactured by Murray's in Belfast.
Dunhill and Murray's are both owned by Rothman PLC (as in Rothman
cigarettes). I don't know whether the Dunhill tobacco is artificially
flavored.
Irwin
Tobacco was not known in the Golden Age.
So much the worse for the Golden Age.
William Cowper
Mr. Kurtz
ug...@rzu.unizh.ch (Urs Grob) wrote:
<snip>
>Now, only a few minutes ago I had a closer look at the tin (kind of a new
>look at an old friend). What I saw stroke me. "A mild delicately flavoured
>smoking mixture" ... "made in the U.K.". "Flavoured"? Could it possibly be
>that Dunhill treats an English mixture with a top flavour, that they might
>even use a casing?
I go through a lot of EMP, as it's one of my regular smokes and I also
use it to break in new pipes. I detect nothing in the way of top
flavorings, and it *certainly* isn't cased. The blurb on the tin
refers to the natural taste of the tobacco.
(The tin always had that description, AFAIK. I suspect it's just
advertising copy to sell the stuff, but one pipe and it sells itself!)
>Didn't I wonder about the last tins no longer drying out,
>despite of the high temperatures and the low humidity we have had for some
>time now in Switzerland?
I've found that the newer tins seal better than the old, keeping the
moisture in. I had some Elizabethan Mixture go dry in one, though.
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language quoted, but Royal Yacht does contain added flavoring, with nary an
indication on the tin. Both are excellent tobaccos in any case.
Regards, Mike Hogue
James D. Beard
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ug...@rzu.unizh.ch (Urs Grob) on 19 Jun 1996 in
<ugrob.11...@news.unizh.ch> wrote,
> <snip> "A mild delicately flavoured
> smoking mixture" ... "made in the U.K.". "Flavoured"? Could it possibly be
> that Dunhill treats an English mixture with a top flavour, that they might
> even use a casing? Didn't I wonder about the last tins no longer drying out,
> despite of the high temperatures and the low humidity we have had for some
> time now in Switzerland? Suddenly I remember having read somewhere (in the
> last Pipe magazine?) that Murray & Sons Inc. in Ireland produces some of the
> Dunhill blends. Is there a silent erinmorization of the English mixtures or
> am I just getting neurotic?
To first specify the old standard, quoting from "All About Tobacco" by
Milton M. Sherman (1970):
QUOTE
English law, as interpreted by the Commissioner or Customs and Excise,
reads:
1. The Use of flavorings in the manufacture of tobacco is restricted
except as otherwise permitted by the Commissioner of Customs and Excise.
2. Only one approved flavoring may be added to any tobacco, and the total
amount of the flavoring used must not exceed that laid down in the letter
of approval.
3. All approved flavorings must, before use, be completely dissolved in
spirits (such as isopropyl alcohol).
4. Before use, each flavoring (including natural essential oil in
solution) must, in the condition in which it is added to the tobacco
during the course of manufacture, be specifically approved by the
Commissioner.
Since isopropyl alcohol or any other approved solvent is volatile, we can
assume that rapid evaporation takes place and that therefore only a
minimal amount of the flavoring material used would remain on the tobacco.
It is estimated that less than half of one percent of the weight of any
given brand manufactured in the United Kingdom is composed of flavorings,
as contrasted with some brands manufactured in the United States in which
casing sauces constitute as much as 25% of the gross weight of the tobacco
product, or in the case of Dutch tobaccos, as high as 35%.
END QUOTE
In 1986, the UK restriction on casings and flavorings was relaxed (not
abolished, to my understanding). I have been told by a UK specialist
tobacconist that up to 2 percent of UK pipe tobacco may be non-tobacco,
and the 2 percent figure is echoed in "The Illustrated History of THE
PIPE" by Liebaert and Maya (1993, Paris, in French; 1994, London, in
English translation).
UK tobacco manufacturers can and do (and could and did, for decades) use
small amounts of flavorings. To my knowledge, no tobacco made to the old
standard uses any humectant whatsoever. It may be that some of the UK
counterparts to U.S. "drugstore tobacco" may have some humectant.
My personal recommendation: If you like traditional British tobaccos, and
would prefer no humectants, and great tobaccos both for taste and burn
qualities, find a local source for Gawith, Hoggarth & Co. flake tobaccos.
Peering in turn into each of five 2-pound coffee cans: Rum Flake, down to
a half pound (Egads!); Coniston Cut Plug, about three-quarter pound (ok
for now); Plum & Rum (flavored with Jamaican rum, licorice, and
plum extract), about 6 ounces (adequate, smoked only in my Peterson Small
Calabash); No 7 Broken Flake, about three-quarter pound (plenty) plus a
half pound of No 7 Aromatic Mixture (oversupply); Bob's Flake, Glengarry
Flake, Rum Twist, nearly a half pound of each (must get back to these);
assorted and sundry pouches of various, including some Dunhill samples,
some Erinmore Flake, some Tam O'Shanter, some Ennerdale Flake, and some
other things I have ignored for months... Guess I can hold off on
ordering for a while, though the low level of Rum Flake is cause for
concern.
Glenn Wylie
Glenn Godsey wrote:
> *Another Old Codger Tip from G.G.* - For the last several years I have carried
> in my pocket a small rectangle of leather about 1 1/2" by 3" or big enough to
> cover a typical pipe bowl when doubled. This serves two purposes:1) when ambling
> with a smoking pipe, I can cover the bowl with the pad and my thumb to enter a
> store or other no smoking areas without having to empty my pipe, and 2) by
> covering the bowl for 30 or forty seconds,the pipe can be extinguished if
> necessary. Before I discovered this trick, I frequently found myself digging
> with a pipe tool to dump a nearly full smoking bowl, sometimes with no ash trays
> in sight.
>
> In more civilized times, such manipulations weren't necessary, but I, for one,
> refuse to be completely banished to my room even in these tobacco-hysterical
> times.
>
> Happy smoking,
> Glenn Godsey
Glenn,
That is a very clever idea. Thanks.
-Glenn Wylie
Urs Grob
Thanks for the input on Early Morning Pipe and the English law with regard
to tobacco production (a maximum of 2% of casing still seems like quite o
lot of chemicals to me - well of course it depends on how natural the stuff
is that is being used as casing). Despite of obviously being produced by
Murray & Sons Inc. in Belfast, Ireland, under the same roof as Erinmore (2%
you say?), Early Morning Pipe still seems to be one of the few unadultered
traditional English mixtures. Btw in order to solve the problem with too
moist and hot burning tobacco (even from EMP tins opened two to three weeks
ago) I came to having two tins in use and practising a two layer technique:
I fill the bottom of my pipe with a small amount of EMP from a tin that has
been kept perfectly closed, thus giving me a tobacco that doesn't get drawn
into the stem spoiling an otherwise great smoking pleasure. I more and more
like to smoke English blends (quite) dry, since imo they taste much better
this way and I need much less pipe cleaners.
Regards,
Urs
O. Nieto
Try the Dunhill small ones, number 1 or 2 sizes.
O. Nieto
Craig Lewis
>
>Hi...
>
>Wondering if anyone knows if any of the "major" manufacturers make a small
>bowl pipe?
>
>Something for a 10-15 minute smoke...
That's small, all right.
I have a Dunhill group 3 apple which gives me about a 30 minute smoke,
so a group 2 might fit the bill for you. It's gonna be small, that's
for sure.
Also: look at some small, but nicely done, meerschaums. You can
smoke them a bit faster, if you need to. A small meerschaum doesn't
have to be a 'dope pipe'; I have a nice little lattice, 1/4 bent
that I'm actually quite fond of. It's a decent smoke (IMO, it's
*very* hard for a pipe this small to smoke as well as an average
or large pipe of the same grade), and small meerschaums can take
getting smoked repeatedly probably better than anything else.
>Thanks!
>
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>But now I'm just amused..."
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Craig Lewis
>
>Dear Co-smokers,
>
>I love to try out new tobaccos, mainly English mixtures, but I also
>appreciate quality aromatics for a change (I mean those tobaccos that still
>smell and taste like tobacco). Still, like most of you I always come back to
>a few chosen ones. Among them is Dunhill's Early Morning Pipe Mixture. What
>a feeling to see such constant quality, what a delightful complex character!
>
>smoking mixture" ... "made in the U.K.". "Flavoured"? Could it possibly be
>that Dunhill treats an English mixture with a top flavour, that they might
>even use a casing? Didn't I wonder about the last tins no longer drying out,
>despite of the high temperatures and the low humidity we have had for some
>time now in Switzerland? Suddenly I remember having read somewhere (in the
>last Pipe magazine?) that Murray & Sons Inc. in Ireland produces some of the
>Dunhill blends. Is there a silent erinmorization of the English mixtures or
>am I just getting neurotic?
>
I don't think so. I think they're using 'delicately flavoured' as just a
qualitative description, like you might apply to a Berliner Weiss beer
(as opposed to an English porter), or to the scent of a wild rose compared
to lilac.
>Regards,
>Urs
LoisT97400
>
>Wondering if anyone knows if any of the "major" manufacturers make a
small
>bowl pipe?
Hope you won't take this the wrong way, but if you don't mind a longer
stemmed pipe, you might try looking for what is normally called a "ladies"
pipe. No, they don't have flowers or silly designs on them; in fact, I
have a very conservative, sleek, Savinelli briar "lady" that has a small
bowl which is handy for shorter smoking times. You may have to ask at
your local pipe shop, or check a catalog.
Pleasant puffing, Lois Thieme
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Jonathan R. McGirr
On 6/30/96 7:04PM, in message <4r74mb$6...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, LoisT97400 <loist...@aol.com> wrote:
> In article <bbrown-1806...@okc179.icon.net>, bbr...@icon.net
> (Bill Brown) writes:
>
> >
> >Wondering if anyone knows if any of the "major" manufacturers make a
> small
> >bowl pipe?
>
> very conservative, sleek, Savinelli briar "lady" that has a small
>
You might also consider buying a pipe screen and placing it in the bottom of the bowl. This would take a
good 1/4 inch out of most bowls.
Mark Tinsky
In article <N.063096....@softdisk.com>, mcg...@softdisk.com
(Jonathan R. McGirr) wrote:
>On 6/30/96 7:04PM, in message <4r74mb$6...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>,
LoisT97400 <loist...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <bbrown-1806...@okc179.icon.net>, bbr...@icon.net
>> (Bill Brown) writes:
>>
>> >
>> >Wondering if anyone knows if any of the "major" manufacturers make a
>> small
>> >bowl pipe?
>
Thre are some small bowl pipes out there . Sadly , they are usually of
poor quality, heavily laquered, as if the shine would appeal to ladies.
Pretty chauvinistic reasoning! I can custom make small bowls, at a
reasonable price in an excellent quality in any shape.
Dunhill has some small bowls in Group 2 which are hard to find tho
Georgetown Tobacco used to carry them. Their address is GTTO...@aol.com
They also have a web page. Ive seen some nice small bowls coming out of
Jost Pipe Shop in St. Louis .I don t have the address for it tho. Good
Luck Mark Tinsky
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Robert Engbers
Bill:
I have been complaining that most major pipe manufacturers produce pipes
that have too-small bowls to begin with, and I usually avoid them if I
can. The Carey's Smokeshop catalog (1-800-99BRIAR) uses five bowl size
designations (a,b,c,d, and e), with "a" being the most diminuative. On
that score, they carry a very handsome Peterson bent apple sandblast (No.
2838) which is called the "Irish Whiskey," a direct reference to the
color of its finish. It sells for $59.95. The Peterson Diamond Shank
Bulldog (No. 5103) has a size "b" (still rather small). The Savinelli
"Pisa," which is a round-shank quarter bent bulldog (No. 2725) also has a
size "b" bowl.
In addition to these larger-production pipes, you might consider those
made by S&R Pipes (Steve and Roswitha Anderson, in Columbus, Ohio) they
sell their pipes in their store, "Pipes and Pleasures" 1-614-235-6422,
and specialize in smaller versions of the classical shapes.
I also smoke (and recommend) the work of Vermont pipesmith Elliot
Nachwalter (1-800-832-8309). A good many (though by no means all) of his
remarkable pipes are petite.
Hope this helps.
Kind regards,
--Robert
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In article <4r74mb$6...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, loist...@aol.com
(LoisT97400) writes:
>Hope you won't take this the wrong way, but if you don't mind a longer
>stemmed pipe, you might try looking for what is normally called a
"ladies"
>pipe. No, they don't have flowers or silly designs on them; in fact, I
>have a very conservative, sleek, Savinelli briar "lady" that has a small
>bowl which is handy for shorter smoking times. You may have to ask at
>your local pipe shop, or check a catalog.
>Pleasant puffing, Lois Thieme
Hi Lois! Welcome to the group. FWIW, the Sasieni company was one of the
first to come out with a serious "ladies'" pipe, serious meaning the
emphasis was on smokability, not cheap marketing gimmicks. Their 1935
catalog lists three models, the "Argyle", the "Dorset", and the
"Montrose". Any of these pipes would certainly fill the bill for a
smokable small bowled pipe, should one be fortunate enough to find one on
the estate market.
For that matter, Sasieni pipes in general tended to the small to medium
side. Hope this helps.
Steve Smith
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