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Rev.Dr. LoBotomy

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Dec 31, 2009, 9:36:11 PM12/31/09
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How Hal, Plato, Exoskeletal... Dive Ma-Schemati... (not Diva Schematic),
zeppo, etc. work.

http://megahal.alioth.debian.org/How.html

Pisces

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Dec 31, 2009, 9:39:24 PM12/31/09
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On Dec 31, 9:36 pm, "Rev.Dr. LoBotomy" <e...@NOSEPAMdrlobotomy.net>
wrote:

> How Hal, Plato, Exoskeletal... Dive Ma-Schemati... (not Diva Schematic),
> zeppo, etc. work.
>
> http://megahal.alioth.debian.org/How.html

I must admit I thought it was Dr.Hal at first.

Chico would be a good name, considering Zeppo's spot in the world.

just john

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Dec 31, 2009, 9:53:33 PM12/31/09
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So, how far has this come since the late 1990s? That's the last time I
looked at this sort of thing. I forget the name of the popular one,
back then.

--
* Radio Free Entropy: http://just-john.com/cn/rfe.shtml

Giles

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Dec 31, 2009, 10:04:18 PM12/31/09
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Talking Eliza?

just john

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Dec 31, 2009, 10:24:16 PM12/31/09
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Giles wrote:
> On Dec 31, 8:53 pm, just john <teuy13...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>> Pisces wrote:
>>> On Dec 31, 9:36 pm, "Rev.Dr. LoBotomy" <e...@NOSEPAMdrlobotomy.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> How Hal, Plato, Exoskeletal... Dive Ma-Schemati... (not Diva Schematic),
>>>> zeppo, etc. work.
>>>> http://megahal.alioth.debian.org/How.html
>>> I must admit I thought it was Dr.Hal at first.
>>> Chico would be a good name, considering Zeppo's spot in the world.
>> So, how far has this come since the late 1990s? That's the last time I
>> looked at this sort of thing. I forget the name of the popular one,
>> back then.
>>

> Talking Eliza?

Nah. By the way, in 1980 or so, I took an APL version of Eliza and fed
it into itself as its own input. I generated a ton of wide fanfold
printout that way, and in '84-'85 used it as physical wallpaper in my
first apartment.

And later, there was Racter in my IIc ...


No, what I'm talking about is something that scanned a whole lot of
supplied text and would then spit out pastiches of them.

iDRMRSR the Reclined Mastar

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Dec 31, 2009, 10:20:51 PM12/31/09
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What we really need is a SHUT THE FUCK UP simulator.

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just john

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Dec 31, 2009, 10:31:13 PM12/31/09
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iDRMRSR the Reclined Mastar wrote:
> What we really need is a SHUT THE FUCK UP simulator.
>


It's as close as any non-digitally-upgraded TV set.

Rev.Dr. LoBotomy

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Dec 31, 2009, 11:01:07 PM12/31/09
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Yeah, I was Hal and Plato, I wasn't the other two. But the way they talk
is so much like megahal that it's got to be something like that.

John Cook

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Dec 31, 2009, 11:34:19 PM12/31/09
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I dun bad blabbing about that TuringProof useNet GodBot I'm constructing...

Youse buggars beat me to it!

p.s. MY bots will fight on the side of GOOD!


--
John Cook


Reality is not Democratic

Glenn Knickerbocker

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Jan 2, 2010, 12:01:43 AM1/2/10
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On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 22:24:16 -0500, just john wrote:
>No, what I'm talking about is something that scanned a whole lot of
>supplied text and would then spit out pastiches of them.

Sounds like you may mean MegaHal. I still need to get around to
releasing my Gilbert & Sullivan MegaHal brain into the world.

You used to mope, and sigh, and pant, just like a carrot, before he
sets us lilting, dance a step or two-of this now guess the hidden
sense: it means complete indifference!

I daresay being blown up is not worth a maravedi, be so kind as they'd
imply, or why do these gentle ladies weep? It cannot be!

Yes--yes he represents a military scheme in which we have failed in
etiquette towards a man can't forge his own marriage with your
placidity emetical.

�R http://users.bestweb.net/~notr/kartuli "Hush!
They sing choruses in public. That's mad enough, I think."

John Cook

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Jan 2, 2010, 12:20:44 AM1/2/10
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Lets decree one of alt.slacks' subs to be the place for robot wars...

there's bob,devo,eraserhead,goathead or alt.slack.slack

I think it should be bob or double slack.

thunder.willow

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Jan 2, 2010, 1:46:43 AM1/2/10
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Seriously, give it up. Your day is done.

John Cook

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Jan 2, 2010, 4:00:00 AM1/2/10
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On 1/01/10 12:36 PM, Rev.Dr. LoBotomy wrote:

http://www.loebner.net/Prizef/In-response.html

Loebner paid for and started the annual "Turing Test" for AI Bots.

extract:

A group of computer scientists build the world's most powerful computer.
Let us call it "HyperThought." HyperThought is massively parallel, it
contains neural networks, it has teraflop speed., etc. The computer
scientists give HyperThought a shakedown run. It easily computes Pi to
10000 places, and factors a 100 digit number. The scientists try find a
difficult question that may stump it. Finally, one scientist exclaims:
"I know!" "HyperThought," she asks "is there a God?" "There is now,"
replies the computer.

Now, most people, when they hear the joke, assume that the computer is
asserting its own divinity. But, when asked who God is these same people
reply "He is my creator." And to HyperThought, humans will be its creator.

I suggest Loebner's Corollary to Asimov's Laws of Robotics: "Humans are
gods."

We may ask "Is it ethical for us to teach intelligent computers this?"
If we want intelligent robots and computers to care for us, to fetch and
to carry for us, as I do, then this belief system will facilitate the
matter. And, in fact, we will have created them.

It amuses me to imagine a day in the distant future when humans have
become extinct, surpassed by our creations, robots, who roam the
universe. I like to think that these robots may have a memory of us
humans, perhaps as semi-mythic fractious demigods from the distant past
who created them. And, just possibly, they will remember me.

RastaBillyBob

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Jan 2, 2010, 10:29:53 AM1/2/10
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On Jan 2, 3:00 am, John Cook <FunCoTech@Yahoodotcom> wrote:

>
> It amuses me to imagine a day in the distant future when humans have
> become extinct, surpassed by our creations, robots, who roam the
> universe. I like to think that these robots may have a memory of us
> humans, perhaps as semi-mythic fractious demigods from the distant past
> who created them. And, just possibly, they will remember me.
>

I will remember you, for this mini-essay, if for no other reason. I
must say, it's the only part of this thread that I understand at all.

Nicko

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Jan 3, 2010, 7:25:52 PM1/3/10
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On Jan 1, 11:01 pm, Glenn Knickerbocker <N...@bestweb.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 22:24:16 -0500, just john wrote:
> >No, what I'm talking about is something that scanned a whole lot of
> >supplied text and would then spit out pastiches of them.
>
> Sounds like you may mean MegaHal.  I still need to get around to
> releasing my Gilbert & Sullivan MegaHal brain into the world.
>
>   You used to mope, and sigh, and pant, just like a carrot, before he
>   sets us lilting, dance a step or two-of this now guess the hidden
>   sense: it means complete indifference!
>
>   I daresay being blown up is not worth a maravedi, be so kind as they'd
>   imply, or why do these gentle ladies weep? It cannot be!
>
>   Yes--yes he represents a military scheme in which we have failed in
>   etiquette towards a man can't forge his own marriage with your
>   placidity emetical.

I once somehow got MegaHal to state, "George Bush is a kibologist."

I almost puked, I laughed so hard.

--
YOP...

just john

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Jan 4, 2010, 9:23:13 AM1/4/10
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On Jan 2, 12:01 am, Glenn Knickerbocker <N...@bestweb.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 22:24:16 -0500, just john wrote:
> >No, what I'm talking about is something that scanned a whole lot of
> >supplied text and would then spit out pastiches of them.
>
> Sounds like you may mean MegaHal.  I still need to get around to
> releasing my Gilbert & Sullivan MegaHal brain into the world.
>


I'm mildly ashamed to admit that I had a melody generated by
PushButton Bach going through my head recently.

Giles

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Jan 4, 2010, 12:06:54 PM1/4/10
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On Jan 2, 3:00 am, John Cook <FunCoTech@Yahoodotcom> wrote:

There Will Come Soft Rains

John Cook

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Jan 4, 2010, 3:03:19 PM1/4/10
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On 5/01/10 12:23 AM, just john wrote:
> On Jan 2, 12:01 am, Glenn Knickerbocker<N...@bestweb.net> wrote:
>> On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 22:24:16 -0500, just john wrote:
>>> No, what I'm talking about is something that scanned a whole lot of
>>> supplied text and would then spit out pastiches of them.
>>
>> Sounds like you may mean MegaHal. I still need to get around to
>> releasing my Gilbert& Sullivan MegaHal brain into the world.

>>
>
>
> I'm mildly ashamed to admit that I had a melody generated by
> PushButton Bach going through my head recently.

Shit, It Happens. Sometimes the monkeys get one sentence right.

Rev. 11D Meow!

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Jan 4, 2010, 5:05:44 PM1/4/10
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On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 09:06:54 -0800 (PST), Giles <conn...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

are they chocolate?

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