Why are switchblades/flick knives illegal in so many places?
Nicko
Is it because they have been made to seem so menacing by Hollywood?
I just don't get it. I can have my ordinary decent lockblade out of
my pocket, opened, and shoved up into your chest cavity in exactly as
much time as someone with a switchblade. And certainly much more
quickly than someone who has to take off the safety on a switchblade.
Or, maybe these prohibitions are designed to protect morons from their
swithchblades opening while in their pockets.
I've been in a couple of situations where I thought I would have to do
use a blade, but thank fuck I was able to defuse the situations before
they got to that point, because honestly, I dunno whether I would have
been able to do knife someone.
So on these two confrontations I had the reassurance (however
illusory) in having a knife at hand, but I just can't see that a
switchblade would make any difference whatsoever, in a defensive or an
offensive role.
Don't get me wrong. I love switchblades. They are fun to play with,
and just fucking cool. But that's about as far as the concept is
useful to me.
This list of switchblade laws was interesting:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switchblade#Federal_law
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purple
It was the favored weapon for juvenile delinquents way back when, along
with brass knuckles.
Mark
ITYM...
>I was able to defuse the situations before
> they got to that point, because honestly, I dunno whether I would have
> been able to squeal like a pig.
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Rev. Beergoggles
> Don't get me wrong. I love switchblades. They are fun to play with,
> and just fucking cool. But that's about as far as the concept is
> useful to me.
I carry a Columbia River CRKT M1612LE Tanto.
http://www.knivesplus.com/CR-M1612LE-CRKT.HTML
Perfectly legal most everywhere.
Oddly, the Bowie knive is illegal in Texas. :/ Go figure.
Then again so is my KB 1220 and dive knife.
Got a balysong also. Just don't play with it that much
because it's double sided and I don't wanna loose any
more skin fucking with it.
--
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Talysman the Ur-Beatle
> Mark's sword post cause me to wonder about this.
>
> Is it because they have been made to seem so menacing by Hollywood?
I dunno, but if it's a matter of appearances -- they just don't want
people to purchase or show off something that's obviously meant to be
a weapon, as opposed to jack knives and pocket knives that are useful
otherwise -- then why didn't they outlaw little kids taking apart ball
point pins to remove the click button, to make a pretend switchblade
so that w--they could have pretend knife fights during recess? (This
was in the days before light sabres, but definitely if Star Wars had
existed back then, w--the kids would have pretended they were light
sabres instead of switchblades.
Piet de Arcilla
> Mark's sword post cause me to wonder about this.
>
> Is it because they have been made to seem so menacing by Hollywood?
>
> I just don't get it. I can have my ordinary decent lockblade out of
> my pocket, opened, and shoved up into your chest cavity in exactly as
> much time as someone with a switchblade.
This is one of those statements like saying something "tastes like
piss".
How exactly did you come to be so certain about your
facts^H^H^H^H^Hnonsense?
pete
> Mark's sword post cause me to wonder about this.
>
> Is it because they have been made to seem so menacing by Hollywood?
>
> I just don't get it. I can have my ordinary decent lockblade out of
> my pocket, opened, and shoved up into your chest cavity in exactly as
> much time as someone with a switchblade. And certainly much more
> quickly than someone who has to take off the safety on a switchblade.
Switchblades were popular with Hispanics.
That's the reason.
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pete
> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:30:33 -0500, pete <pfi...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Nicko wrote:
>>
>>>Mark's sword post cause me to wonder about this.
>>>
>>>Is it because they have been made to seem so menacing by Hollywood?
>>>
>>>I just don't get it. I can have my ordinary decent lockblade out of
>>>my pocket, opened, and shoved up into your chest cavity in exactly as
>>>much time as someone with a switchblade. And certainly much more
>>>quickly than someone who has to take off the safety on a switchblade.
>>
>>Switchblades were popular with Hispanics.
>>That's the reason.
>
>
> Funny, I thought they were just as popular with many immigrants that hailed
> from Europe.
But nobody making laws, is going to either know or care about that.
The true facts and the reason, don't intersect for racism.
Italians are called Dagos because Diego is a Spanish name.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_a_dago_or_a_wop
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Mark Edwards
>Italians are called Dagos because Diego is a Spanish name.
I thought it was because they glow under a black light.
Mark Edwards
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> No cluons were harmed when pete wrote:
>>Italians are called Dagos because Diego is a Spanish name.
>
> I thought it was because they glow under a black light.
No, that's pee.
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Nicko
Would you like me to demonstrate?
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Otto Bahn
>>>Italians are called Dagos because Diego is a Spanish name.
>>
>> I thought it was because they glow under a black light.
>
> No, that's pee.
And semen.
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David E. Powell
said we should re legalize switch blades.
Same as any other knife in my book. Gravity knives also get the
treatment, but are basically the same as any other blade once out.
Butterfly knives get banned a lot, probably to prevent injury to their
users who try to play fancy twirling them and catch themselves.
DEP
A good old Fairbairn(sp) is still the best....
the wharf rat
A cheap fillet knife. One of those plastic handled ones from Target.
(cross posting preserved... go, trolls...)
reverend johnboy
deer in under 5 minutes. I ain't skeered of no switchblade.
Guy Namechanger
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> Old law, and no one wants to be running for re-election as hey guy who
> said we should re legalize switch blades.
>
next crusade.
Tater Gumfries
Switchblades are generally not as sturdy as lockblades. If Tater had
to stab someone, he'd rather have a lockblade on hand.
But switchblades look cooler when you take them out on account of you
don't have to do nothin but push a button. With a lockblade, you
generally have to give it a flick, unless you're real good with your
thumb. With a switchblade, you can take it out, act real cool and
collected, *then* push the button. CLICK -- out pops that blade.
Tater's pretty sure it is just the con not wanting you to look cool.
Tater
Rev. 11D Meow!
<TaterG...@usa.com> wrote:
>On Nov 22, 6:24锟絧m, Nicko <nervous.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Mark's sword post cause me to wonder about this.
>>
>> Is it because they have been made to seem so menacing by Hollywood?
>>
>> I just don't get it. 锟絀 can have my ordinary decent lockblade out of
>> my pocket, opened, and shoved up into your chest cavity in exactly as
>> much time as someone with a switchblade. 锟紸nd certainly much more
>> quickly than someone who has to take off the safety on a switchblade.
>>
>> Or, maybe these prohibitions are designed to protect morons from their
>> swithchblades opening while in their pockets.
>>
>> I've been in a couple of situations where I thought I would have to do
>> use a blade, but thank fuck I was able to defuse the situations before
>> they got to that point, because honestly, I dunno whether I would have
>> been able to do knife someone.
>>
>> So on these two confrontations I had the reassurance (however
>> illusory) in having a knife at hand, but I just can't see that a
>> switchblade would make any difference whatsoever, in a defensive or an
>> offensive role.
>>
>> Don't get me wrong. 锟絀 love switchblades. 锟絋hey are fun to play with,
>> and just fucking cool. 锟紹ut that's about as far as the concept is
>> useful to me.
>>
>> This list of switchblade laws was interesting:
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switchblade#Federal_law
>
>Switchblades are generally not as sturdy as lockblades. If Tater had
>to stab someone, he'd rather have a lockblade on hand.
>
>But switchblades look cooler when you take them out on account of you
>don't have to do nothin but push a button. With a lockblade, you
>generally have to give it a flick, unless you're real good with your
>thumb. With a switchblade, you can take it out, act real cool and
>collected, *then* push the button. CLICK -- out pops that blade.
>
>Tater's pretty sure it is just the con not wanting you to look cool.
>
>Tater
When you're a Jet, you're a Jet.
All The Way!
Zapanaz
Thunder crashed, Tater Gumfries laughed madly, then wrote:
>On Nov 22, 6:24锟絧m, Nicko <nervous.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Mark's sword post cause me to wonder about this.
>>
>> Is it because they have been made to seem so menacing by Hollywood?
>>
>> I just don't get it. 锟絀 can have my ordinary decent lockblade out of
>> my pocket, opened, and shoved up into your chest cavity in exactly as
>> much time as someone with a switchblade. 锟紸nd certainly much more
>> quickly than someone who has to take off the safety on a switchblade.
>>
>> Or, maybe these prohibitions are designed to protect morons from their
>> swithchblades opening while in their pockets.
>>
>> I've been in a couple of situations where I thought I would have to do
>> use a blade, but thank fuck I was able to defuse the situations before
>> they got to that point, because honestly, I dunno whether I would have
>> been able to do knife someone.
>>
>> So on these two confrontations I had the reassurance (however
>> illusory) in having a knife at hand, but I just can't see that a
>> switchblade would make any difference whatsoever, in a defensive or an
>> offensive role.
>>
>> Don't get me wrong. 锟絀 love switchblades. 锟絋hey are fun to play with,
>> and just fucking cool. 锟紹ut that's about as far as the concept is
>> useful to me.
>>
>> This list of switchblade laws was interesting:
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switchblade#Federal_law
>
>Switchblades are generally not as sturdy as lockblades. If Tater had
>to stab someone, he'd rather have a lockblade on hand.
>
>But switchblades look cooler when you take them out on account of you
>don't have to do nothin but push a button. With a lockblade, you
>generally have to give it a flick, unless you're real good with your
>thumb. With a switchblade, you can take it out, act real cool and
>collected, *then* push the button. CLICK -- out pops that blade.
>
>Tater's pretty sure it is just the con not wanting you to look cool.
>
>Tater
I notice the laws went into effect in 1958, when the juvenile
delinquency scare was in full force
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0048545/
Parents didn't want their children to grow up to be Sal Mineo
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jared mercer
knife once. i gave him a dollar to go away. he just kept following
me with a 1 inch blade for like 2 blocks and kept backing off every
time i turned around, he being in that paranoid crackhead delierium.
it took him a full minute to uncover the blade and figure out that he
needed to point it at me for me to figure out that he was trying to
threaten me with it. i saw him 1hr later at the bus station and he
tried to sell me crack. i dont really like philly.
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> Tater Gumfries hunched over a computer, typing feverishly;
> Thunder crashed, Tater Gumfries laughed madly, then wrote:
>
>>> Mark's sword post cause me to wonder about this.
>>>
>>> Is it because they have been made to seem so menacing by Hollywood?
>>>
>>> my pocket, opened, and shoved up into your chest cavity in exactly as
>>> quickly than someone who has to take off the safety on a switchblade.
>>>
>>> Or, maybe these prohibitions are designed to protect morons from their
>>> swithchblades opening while in their pockets.
>>>
>>> I've been in a couple of situations where I thought I would have to do
>>> use a blade, but thank fuck I was able to defuse the situations before
>>> they got to that point, because honestly, I dunno whether I would have
>>> been able to do knife someone.
>>>
>>> So on these two confrontations I had the reassurance (however
>>> illusory) in having a knife at hand, but I just can't see that a
>>> switchblade would make any difference whatsoever, in a defensive or an
>>> offensive role.
>>>
>>> and just fucking cool. But that's about as far as the concept is
>>> useful to me.
>>>
>>> This list of switchblade laws was interesting:
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switchblade#Federal_law
>>
>>Switchblades are generally not as sturdy as lockblades. If Tater had
>>to stab someone, he'd rather have a lockblade on hand.
>>
>>But switchblades look cooler when you take them out on account of you
>>don't have to do nothin but push a button. With a lockblade, you
>>generally have to give it a flick, unless you're real good with your
>>thumb. With a switchblade, you can take it out, act real cool and
>>collected, *then* push the button. CLICK -- out pops that blade.
>>
>>Tater's pretty sure it is just the con not wanting you to look cool.
>>
>>Tater
>
> I notice the laws went into effect in 1958, when the juvenile
> delinquency scare was in full force
>
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0048545/
>
> Parents didn't want their children to grow up to be Sal Mineo
>
Rob Cypher
wrote:
why didn't you whip his ass, superman?
David E. Powell
> In article <912e131a-3bdc-48e5-a2af-9b48e2fdb...@m35g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>,
> David E. Powell <David_Powell3...@msn.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >A good old Fairbairn(sp) is still the best....
>
> A cheap fillet knife. One of those plastic handled ones from Target.
>
> (cross posting preserved... go, trolls...)
Good point, ahem. I fished a lot as a kid and the fish knife still
commands a healthy respect. Practical, available almost anywhere and
quite impressive.
Don Stockbauer
wrote:
> On Nov 23, 4:37 pm, w...@panix.com (the wharf rat) wrote:
>
> > In article <912e131a-3bdc-48e5-a2af-9b48e2fdb...@m35g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>,
> > David E. Powell <David_Powell3...@msn.com> wrote:
>
> > >A good old Fairbairn(sp) is still the best....
>
> > A cheap fillet knife. One of those plastic handled ones from Target.
>
> > (cross posting preserved... go, trolls...)
>
> Good point, ahem. I fished a lot as a kid and the fish knife still
> commands a healthy respect. Practical, available almost anywhere and
> quite impressive.
Why are switchblades/flick knives illegal in so many places?
Because you can use them to cut the fuck outta people??????????
Mark Edwards
>Why are switchblades/flick knives illegal in so many places?
>
>Because you can use them to cut the fuck outta people??????????
Then why aren't cheese graters and potato peelers illegal? Or are they?
Mark Edwards
Don Stockbauer
> No cluons were harmed when Don Stockbauer wrote:
>
> >Why are switchblades/flick knives illegal in so many places?
>
> >Because you can use them to cut the fuck outta people??????????
>
> Then why aren't cheese graters and potato peelers illegal? Or are they?
"Take that, you dastardly attacker, you! I peeled the skin right off
your cheek! Hah, hah, hah, buddy."
Rev. Susie the Floozie
> Parents didn't want their children to grow up to be Sal Mineo
Ironic that he got knifed in his carport, huh?
All I know is, 28 goddamned posts and not one of you testosterone
jockeys have stated the obvious:
BECAUSE SWITCHBLADES POP OUT LIKE LETHAL, GLEAMING DICKS.
*klik,boinnng!*
They're dicks that can kill, and they're smaller than what you're
packing, so it's a subliminal *Oh YEAH? Well, my tiny dick can still
KILL!!!*
Glad I could clear that up for you all. Now you can skulk off, not
making direct eye contact. 'Ta!
Glenn Knickerbocker
>I just don't get it. I can have my ordinary decent lockblade out of
>my pocket, opened, and shoved up into your chest cavity in exactly as
>much time as someone with a switchblade.
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switchblade#Federal_law
An anonymous commenter on the same article points out: "If you want the
official rationale, I've been told that police groups support switchblade
bans because they don't want criminals to be able to quickly open a
palmed knife when the cops order them to put their hands up." I would
say not so much just quickly as without warning. To open your lockblade,
you have to make an obvious movement.
�R Blood is worthless, outside its original container.
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Otto Bahn
> >Why are switchblades/flick knives illegal in so many places?
>
> >Because you can use them to cut the fuck outta people??????????
>
> Then why aren't cheese graters and potato peelers illegal? Or are they?
<
<"Take that, you dastardly attacker, you! I peeled the skin right off
<your cheek! Hah, hah, hah, buddy."
Take a blender and remove the container part. Now point
the rotating blades at someone's crotch.
That's a fucking weapon for you.
--oTTo--
Zapanaz
Thunder crashed, Rev. Susie the Floozie laughed madly, then wrote:
>On Nov 23, 6:51�pm, Zapanaz <http://joecosby.com/code/mail.pl> wrote:
>
>> Parents didn't want their children to grow up to be Sal Mineo
>
>Ironic that he got knifed in his carport, huh?
>
>All I know is, 28 goddamned posts and not one of you testosterone
>jockeys have stated the obvious:
>
>BECAUSE SWITCHBLADES POP OUT LIKE LETHAL, GLEAMING DICKS.
>*klik,boinnng!*
>
>They're dicks that can kill, and they're smaller than what you're
>packing, so it's a subliminal *Oh YEAH? Well, my tiny dick can still
>KILL!!!*
>
Suddenly, West Side Story makes sense to me.
>Glad I could clear that up for you all. Now you can skulk off, not
>making direct eye contact. 'Ta!
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Otto Bahn
>>I just don't get it. I can have my ordinary decent lockblade out of
>>my pocket, opened, and shoved up into your chest cavity in exactly as
>>much time as someone with a switchblade.
> ...
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switchblade#Federal_law
>
> An anonymous commenter on the same article points out: "If you want the
> official rationale, I've been told that police groups support switchblade
> bans because they don't want criminals to be able to quickly open a
> palmed knife when the cops order them to put their hands up." I would
> say not so much just quickly as without warning. To open your lockblade,
> you have to make an obvious movement.
Assuming it wasn't already opened. It's easy to palm
a fixed or open knife.
The rational about criminals is still total bullshit,
because it ignores the rights of regular citizens.
--oTTo--
Nicko
> "Don Stockbauer" <don.stockba...@gmail.com> wrote
The blades will still be idle in the container. Some fucking weapon!
Come to think of it, it would still fucking hurt:
"I will drill your scrotum with the axle of this motor!"
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pete
> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:11:21 -0800 (PST), Tater Gumfries
> <TaterG...@usa.com> wrote:
>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switchblade#Federal_law
> When you're a Jet, you're a Jet.
>
> All The Way!
Like I told you what I said: Hispanics!
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Don Stockbauer
<revsusiethefloo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 23, 6:51 pm, Zapanaz <http://joecosby.com/code/mail.pl> wrote:
>
> > Parents didn't want their children to grow up to be Sal Mineo
>
> Ironic that he got knifed in his carport, huh?
>
> All I know is, 28 goddamned posts and not one of you testosterone
> jockeys have stated the obvious:
>
> BECAUSE SWITCHBLADES POP OUT LIKE LETHAL, GLEAMING DICKS.
> *klik,boinnng!*
>
> They're dicks that can kill, and they're smaller than what you're
> packing,
Speak for yourself, Flooze.
pete
>>BECAUSE SWITCHBLADES POP OUT LIKE LETHAL, GLEAMING DICKS.
>>*klik,boinnng!*
>>
>>They're dicks that can kill, and they're smaller than what you're
>>packing,
>
>
> Speak for yourself, Flooze.
They're bigger than what you're packing?
Even if it's true, why would you want to say that?
--
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Chilla
> No cluons were harmed when pete wrote:
>
>>Italians are called Dagos because Diego is a Spanish name.
>
>
> I thought it was because they glow under a black light.
>
>
> Mark Edwards
If you really must know, it has to do with work ethic.
If you didn't tell them to stop working they would keep going.
So pig-English was used "Day Go!", to tell the workers to stop.
Regards Charles
Chilla
> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:30:33 -0500, pete <pfi...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Nicko wrote:
>>
>>>Mark's sword post cause me to wonder about this.
>>>
>>>Is it because they have been made to seem so menacing by Hollywood?
>>>
>>>I just don't get it. I can have my ordinary decent lockblade out of
>>>my pocket, opened, and shoved up into your chest cavity in exactly as
>>>much time as someone with a switchblade. And certainly much more
>>>quickly than someone who has to take off the safety on a switchblade.
>>
>>Switchblades were popular with Hispanics.
>>That's the reason.
Well it's illegal in Australia, because... well what isn't illegal in
Australia?
Regards Charles
phy
dneZbw5ZkgJfWn...@earthlink.com:
> Nicko wrote:
>> Mark's sword post cause me to wonder about this.
>>
>> Is it because they have been made to seem so menacing by Hollywood?
>>
>> I just don't get it. I can have my ordinary decent lockblade out of
>> my pocket, opened, and shoved up into your chest cavity in exactly as
>> much time as someone with a switchblade. And certainly much more
>> quickly than someone who has to take off the safety on a switchblade.
>
> Switchblades were popular with Hispanics.
> That's the reason.
>
Kind of like the reason pot is illegal is because it was mainly only
popular with black in the years before it was outlawed then.
-phy
ArchDeaconMalli
> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:21:05 -0800 (PST), jared mercer <manteca...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >i had a crackhead off of girard ave in philly try to rob me with a pen
> >knife once. i gave him a dollar to go away. he just kept following
> >me with a 1 inch blade for like 2 blocks and kept backing off every
> >time i turned around, he being in that paranoid crackhead delierium.
> >it took him a full minute to uncover the blade and figure out that he
> >needed to point it at me for me to figure out that he was trying to
> >threaten me with it. i saw him 1hr later at the bus station and he
> >tried to sell me crack. i dont really like philly.
>
> why didn't you whip his ass, superman?
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They're legal in Mexico too. When I bought mine,
it came in a little box labeled "Fishing Knife"
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That's exactly the case.
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sk3tchA
have a law banning "dagger knives" which is any knife with a double
edge blade. What's so fucked about it is that you can buy one right
over the counter in just about any hardware or sporting goods store
(without showing any ID or special permit) then carry it outside and
get arrested for having it. I agree also that switchblades aren't more
dangerous than any other type of knife, folding or not. In fact, most
folding knives (including switchblades and flick knives) actually suck
for knife fighting, because of the construction of the handle. Any
knife without a stout crossbar seperating the blade from the handle is
actually very dangerous to the user of it. Blood is slippery stuff,
and once you strike the first blow, the weapon will be difficult to
keep hold of. What's likely to happen is that your hand will slide off
the handle and onto the blade, cutting yourself. In the slam the best
shanks aren't the ones you see in the movies, with a sharpened point
sticking out the end of a handle, but what we called a "punchknife".
This is made by having the blade run perpendicular to the handle, so
it protrudes from between your knuckles. This is much better for a
variety of reasons. It's deadlier (normal boxing blows make you an
expert) and It's easier to keep hold of when wet. Most skilled,
experienced bladefighters would tell you that the two best knives of
all time for actual combat are the bowie, and the sykes-fairbain
commando knife, made famous by the SAS. Personally, I'd take a
punchknife with a little 3 or 4 inch blade over a switchblade or buck
knife anyday.
regards,
sk3tch
Dr. HotSalt
> phy wrote:
> > pete <pfil...@mindspring.com> wrote in news:Vf-
> > dneZbw5ZkgJfWnZ2dnUVZ_v1i4...@earthlink.com:
>
> >>Nicko wrote:
>
> >>>Mark's sword post cause me to wonder about this.
>
> >>>Is it because they have been made to seem so menacing by Hollywood?
>
> >>>I just don't get it. I can have my ordinary decent lockblade out of
> >>>my pocket, opened, and shoved up into your chest cavity in exactly as
> >>>much time as someone with a switchblade. And certainly much more
> >>>quickly than someone who has to take off the safety on a switchblade.
>
> >>Switchblades were popular with Hispanics.
> >>That's the reason.
>
> > Kind of like the reason pot is illegal is because it was mainly only
> > popular with black in the years before it was outlawed then.
>
> That's exactly the case.
Yeah, right. Not according to my mother. Um, some lady I knew.
Where else on Earth, and when, was pot illegal before it was
outlawed in the US?
Dr. HotSalt
Otto Bahn
> >>>Mark's sword post cause me to wonder about this.
>
> >>>Is it because they have been made to seem so menacing by Hollywood?
>
> >>>I just don't get it. I can have my ordinary decent lockblade out of
> >>>my pocket, opened, and shoved up into your chest cavity in exactly as
> >>>much time as someone with a switchblade. And certainly much more
> >>>quickly than someone who has to take off the safety on a switchblade.
>
> >>Switchblades were popular with Hispanics.
> >>That's the reason.
>
> > Kind of like the reason pot is illegal is because it was mainly only
> > popular with black in the years before it was outlawed then.
>
> That's exactly the case.
<
< Yeah, right. Not according to my mother. Um, some lady I knew.
<
< Where else on Earth, and when, was pot illegal before it was
<outlawed in the US?
I have no idea, but banning possession of substances is a very
modern thing. There were exceptions for things like arms and
certain prized but rare stuff, but in general folks like Thomas
Jefferson would have been up in arms if some asshole in England
decided they couldn't grow hemp in Virginia.
--oTTo--
Adam Funk
> "Dr. HotSalt" <alie...@gmail.com> wrote
>< Where else on Earth, and when, was pot illegal before it was
><outlawed in the US?
>
> I have no idea, but banning possession of substances is a very
> modern thing. There were exceptions for things like arms and
> certain prized but rare stuff, but in general folks like Thomas
> Jefferson would have been up in arms if some asshole in England
> decided they couldn't grow hemp in Virginia.
ISTR reading years ago (sorry, no reference, so it could be BS) that
Washington's & Jefferson's gardening records indicate that they
separated the male and female "hemp" plants at a certain time each
season: a step that is useless for the purpose of producing rope.
--
No right of private conversation was enumerated in the Constitution.
I don't suppose it occurred to anyone at the time that it could be
prevented. [Whitfield Diffie]
Chilla
Well, you have to live within the law, to do otherwise would make you a
criminal.
However, there are usually ways around such laws, as long as you do a
little research.
In Australia, a lot of toys that the Americans play with are not
available to the general public. You will never be able to walk the
street with these items in your pocket (and in Australia we don't need
to), but you can own them for private collections if you get the proper
licenses.
The argument for a switch blade in Australia is that it's a concealed
weapon (it's a poor argument, and technical at best).
Defending yourself by force of arms is okay in Oz, and that's as bad as
it usually gets. We have more than enough Police to keep us safe.
Punch knives are also on the prohibited weapons list.
The best weapon is a good Police force ;-)
I've been knife fighting for more than 25 years (sparring), and I've
never had to use any of it in a real fight.
Knife fighting isn't really about the knife, it's about the fighter.
Regards Charles
sk3tchA
>
> I've been knife fighting for more than 25 years (sparring), and I've
> never had to use any of it in a real fight.
>
> Knife fighting isn't really about the knife, it's about the fighter.
>
well said, charles.
as you probably know, someone unwilling to risk cut-up forearms by
grabbing the opponent's (enemy's) knife wrist as tactic #1 is almost
always sure to lose... NUFF SAID!
here in the states the best tactic is this : bring a knife to a
fistfight, a gun to a knife-fight, and a bomb to a gunfight! After
that, well, I don't know!
Mark
> ISTR reading years ago (sorry, no reference, so it could be BS) that
> Washington's & Jefferson's gardening records indicate that they
> separated the male and female "hemp" plants at a certain time each
> season: a step that is useless for the purpose of producing rope.
Sounds like an urban legend, because any
half assed cannabis geneticist knows that a
pollination of a known pure female by the
ubiquitous hermaphrodites will always yield
a female seed only hemaphrodite. Then a
planting of those seeds in a seperate field
will yield a crop of sensemillia.
---
Mark
Legume
> Don't get me wrong. I love switchblades. They are fun to play with,
> and just fucking cool. But that's about as far as the concept is
> useful to me.
Most switchblade knives are cheap novelty crap. Great if you have to
cut the string off a package or slit open an envelope, but if you ever
pulled one in a fight you'd likely end up getting your ass kicked by
whoever you pulled it on.
The Fairbairn Sykes commando knife....I've seen them, I've handled
them, they just seem like they're made for girl hands. the Tanto by
Cold Steel is an excellent knife,
I have to say, so far the best knife I've ever used is one I bought
for ten bucks at a flea market in Buffalo, it's called a 'Military
Machete', it's made in China, sharp as a razor, and has excellent heft
and balance. It's shorter than a conventional machete, and thicker at
the spine. It's got a very nice, comfortable handle, not slippery
even when your hands are all covered in blood. This morning, before I
even had breakfast, I cut a gutted/butchered deer carcass in half with
three hacks, the first slash cut right through the ribcage like it was
butter. Three more neatly decapitated it. Online price, $7.96. Pull
this on a motherfucker, he will shit himself. This blade would give
Crocodile Dundee a boner, no doubt.
I give this one the Dr.Legume Holocaustal Seal of Approval.
http://salestores.com/tradem28.html
Rev. Susie the Floozie
Uhhh...
At this point, *I'M* not even sure what I meant.
Chilla
> well said, charles.
>
> as you probably know, someone unwilling to risk cut-up forearms by
> grabbing the opponent's (enemy's) knife wrist as tactic #1 is almost
> always sure to lose... NUFF SAID!
>
> here in the states the best tactic is this : bring a knife to a
> fistfight, a gun to a knife-fight, and a bomb to a gunfight! After
> that, well, I don't know!
Funny you should say that, the comment "Why take a knife to a gun
fight?" was used previously on the knife list.
It was to do with a very large wasted steel knife. I must admit I gave
that knife a bagging, I didn't use the term "crowbar", but I came close.
Regardless the point in America is that a knife is pretty much useless,
as you can carry guns. And we're not talking pop-guns either. Some of
the street legal ordinance would be at home at a minor military action.
We've never really had guns here in Australia, our population is small
enough that we don't need them for protection. We don't even need
knives for protection.
Target shooters, farmers/hunters and collectors are the only people that
want/need them.
Knives, apart from utility knives are really just for collectors.
It's a different country with a different social culture.
Regards Charles
Zapanaz
Thunder crashed, Legume laughed madly, then wrote:
>The Fairbairn Sykes commando knife....I've seen them, I've handled
>them, they just seem like they're made for girl hands.
That's a popular knife. People seem to love them. But I think you
have the right idea.
It's a PRETTY knife. It looks cool and sort of like a knight's sword.
But it is really not well-designed for knife-fighting. Not that I
have ever been in a knife fight or will ever be likely to. But I have
had people teach me how to do it. A good fighting knife should have a
good strong grip, like the machete you linked to, and it should lend
itself to both slashing and stabbing attacks. The Sykes-Fairbairn
knife's grip is no good for holding on to for a slashing attack, it's
long and skinny so you couldn't get a good grip so that you're not
going to drop it if you hit something solid in a slash. And the edge
is not at all well-designed for slashing. Slashing is important in a
real life-or-death knife fight. Stabbing somebody is fine if you can
pull it off, but it's the slash and the threat of the slash that
allows you to control the situation and defend.
People don't realize though, the Sykes-Fairbairn knife was never
designed for knife-fighting in the first place. It was specifically
designed for killing gaurds quietly. The idea is, you sneak up on
him, clamp your left hand over his mouth, then stab the knife into his
kneck, aimed into the chest, with your right hand using an overhand
grip. Then it's got enough edge that you can wriggle it around a
little, ideally lever it forward and cut his windpipe so he can't
scream. If you're into that kind of thing.
It's nicely designed for that.
>the Tanto by
>Cold Steel is an excellent knife,
I have one of those, I think that is a great knife.
I still have a scar on my thumb from playing around with it when I
first got it. My grip on it was wrong and I stabbed a candle that
didn't want to be stabbed.
If it happened to somebody else it would have struck me as funny.
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
If no real debate is happening, isn't that in itself a refusal to debate?
I don't think I'm just splitting hairs here.
- Tom Schuler
:: Currently listening to Rite of Spring 2: Mystical Circles of the Yound Girls, 1913, by Stravinski, from "Prokofiev: Scythian Suite / London Symphony - Leonard Bernstein"
Dr. HotSalt
> Legume hunched over a computer, typing feverishly;
> Thunder crashed, Legume laughed madly, then wrote:
>
> >The Fairbairn Sykes commando knife....I've seen them, I've handled
> >them, they just seem like they're made for girl hands.
>
> That's a popular knife. People seem to love them. But I think you
> have the right idea.
>
> It's a PRETTY knife. It looks cool and sort of like a knight's sword.
> But it is really not well-designed for knife-fighting.
(snip)
> It was specifically designed for killing gaurds quietly.
Yup, yup, and yup. Knife-fight value is mostly scare factor IMO.
Which it has plenty of that.
> >the Tanto by
> >Cold Steel is an excellent knife,
>
> I have one of those, I think that is a great knife.
>
> I still have a scar on my thumb from playing around with it when I
> first got it. My grip on it was wrong and I stabbed a candle that
> didn't want to be stabbed.
>
> If it happened to somebody else it would have struck me as funny.
I got me a khukuri for ten bucks at a yard sale recently. The sale
was held by a lady who had lived in Hong Kong for several years and
whose ex-husband had collected all sorts of stuff she really didn't
know what it was. So to speak.
The knife is kinda odd; intricately carved wooden sheath, and the
notch thingy isn't really a notch, it's a full circle (with the little
"clit") punched and filed into the blade. The blade itself is rather
more, how to say, gracile than your typical khukuri. The blade is a
little more than fourteen inches long, 1 1/4 inches wide, and 11/32
inch thick.
Damnfine fighting knife (what it _was_ designed for), and not a bad
little hatchet either; it'll split a four-foot-long 2x4 lengthwise
with a single blow.
Also got a snazzy lockback punchknife at a different yard sale. 3
1/4 inch blade is quite legal here (WA, USA).
Dr. HotSalt
Legume
> I got me a khukuri for ten bucks at a yard sale recently. The sale
> was held by a lady who had lived in Hong Kong for several years and
> whose ex-husband had collected all sorts of stuff she really didn't
> know what it was. So to speak.
>
> The knife is kinda odd; intricately carved wooden sheath, and the
> notch thingy isn't really a notch, it's a full circle (with the little
> "clit") punched and filed into the blade. The blade itself is rather
> more, how to say, gracile than your typical khukuri. The blade is a
> little more than fourteen inches long, 1 1/4 inches wide, and 11/32
> inch thick.
>
> Damnfine fighting knife (what it _was_ designed for), and not a bad
> little hatchet either; it'll split a four-foot-long 2x4 lengthwise
> with a single blow.
No shit, many a Brit fell under the hack of a Ghurka wielding one of
those fuckers.
Pisces
Middle of a colder than usual winter, we were all bored out in the
bumblefuck cabin. So we had an slew of empty two liter bottles and we
filled them with water.
Of course they froze solid and we set to making target practice of the
lot.
I recall the gunshots as pretty much all the same, but the kukri was
something special. Ole Tim just pulled back like he was gonna take a
hatchet to a tree trunk. When all was said and done the bottle of
solid ice was in two very cleanly cut pieces on the ground and Tim
took the gun and put it away and the kukri stayed next to the bed.
Nestor Kiklu
experienced bladefighters would tell you that the two best knives of
> all time for actual combat are the bowie, and the sykes-fairbain
> commando knife, made famous by the SAS. Personally, I'd take a
> punchknife with a little 3 or 4 inch blade over a switchblade or buck
The Fairbairn-Sykes knife was designed by these two blokes who were Brit
police officers in the Far East, Shanghai if my memory still works. It
was made famous by Brit Commandos in WW2. It does appear on the SAS cap
badge but this was after it was in service. The real thing sells for
�600+ in specialist auctions.
The same gentlemen wrote "All Out Fighting" a handbook for close quarter
combat. It has hints on how to kill a German with your boots
(illustrated) and other handy hints and tips.
BTW "knife fighting" is not a taught subject in the SAS. Disarming
enemies is in the syllabus but if the bloke is attacking you with a
knife you shoot him. Easy.
Nestor
sk3tchA
Mark
> I have to say, so far the best knife I've ever used is one I bought
> for ten bucks at a flea market in Buffalo, it's called a 'Military
> Machete', it's made in China, sharp as a razor, and has excellent heft
> and balance. It's shorter than a conventional machete, and thicker at
> the spine. It's got a very nice, comfortable handle, not slippery
> even when your hands are all covered in blood.
<...>
> Pull
> this on a motherfucker, he will shit himself.
Yeah, but from thereafter, you will always be
known as that guy that pulled a Machete' out
and tried to cut those dudes heads off.
(even if you were minding your own business and
the 2 of them were drunk and decided to bumrush
you, and Holy Hell, all of a sudden you turned the
tables and whipped out a machete', chasing them
back to their sportscar. Then keeping them from
getting in, you reached in and took the keys out
of the ignition and threw them out in a field. Then
for the next 20 minutes you chased them around
the car, whipping the blade within inches of their
neck until one started crying, and the other began
to scream Help! Help!, even though he was 45 yrs
old. and about 6 foot seven.)
Because once you grow tired of this and leave,
the terrified assholes will call the police, and
you'll have to explain. Then, you'll have to
carry an automatic weapon. So...
---
Mark
Adam Funk
I did say "could be BS" and I defer to your expertise.
--
Classical Greek lent itself to the promulgation of a rich culture,
indeed, to Western civilization. Computer languages bring us
doorbells that chime with thirty-two tunes, alt.sex.bestiality, and
Tetris clones. (Stoll 1995)
pete
> On 2009-11-26, Mark wrote:
>
>> On Nov 25, 5:11 pm, Adam Funk <a24...@ducksburg.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ISTR reading years ago (sorry, no reference, so it could be BS) that
>>> Washington's & Jefferson's gardening records indicate that they
>>> separated the male and female "hemp" plants at a certain time each
>>> season: a step that is useless for the purpose of producing rope.
>> Sounds like an urban legend, because any
>> half assed cannabis geneticist knows that a
>> pollination of a known pure female by the
>> ubiquitous hermaphrodites will always yield
>> a female seed only hemaphrodite. Then a
>> planting of those seeds in a seperate field
>> will yield a crop of sensemillia.
>
> I did say "could be BS" and I defer to your expertise.
I read Washington's diary about twenty years ago, and it's in there.
A great big diary of about 20 volumes.
The plants are no good for cordage after they go to seed.
--
pete
pete
What's your point?
http://www.drugwarrant.com/articles/why-is-marijuana-illegal/
Again, racism was part of the charge against marijuana, as newspapers in
1934 editorialized: �Marihuana influences Negroes to look at white
people in the eye, step on white men�s shadows and look at a white woman
twice.�
--
pete
Mark
>
> - Show quoted text -
While that may be true, then it tells me
that Washington didn't know how to produce
seedless plants. The males produce no
seed, they have pollen sacks. An unpollinated
female produces no seeds, she has buds.
The common hermaphrodite has sacks and
seeds, and pollinates itself and others.
Once they "sex", the plant's resources are
somewhat diverted to that process, and
reaching height is no longer it's primary
goal. If it is deprived of resouces initally,
then sexed, it will remain small.
---
Mark
History detective
Mark
>
> - Show quoted text -
What did he say in his diary about
Fort Necessity? Does he still claim
that if he'd known French, he'd have
never signed that confession admitting
that he'd assinated Jumonville? LOL!
Typical George W. He better thank his
ass that they allowed him to surrender,
or that photo on the one dollar bill
wouldn't have a scalp, literally. The
indians were more than willing.
---
Mark
pete
The only other thing I recall from the diary
is his loaning a fishing net to Jupiter,
who was one of his slaves.
--
pete
pete
> Mark Edwards wrote:
>
>> No cluons were harmed when pete wrote:
>>
>>> Italians are called Dagos because Diego is a Spanish name.
>>
>>
>> I thought it was because they glow under a black light.
>>
>>
>> Mark Edwards
>
> If you really must know, it has to do with work ethic.
>
> If you didn't tell them to stop working they would keep going.
>
> So pig-English was used "Day Go!", to tell the workers to stop.
Most obvious revisionary bullshit ever!!!
--
pete
pete
Lately, banning things has become rampant.
We now have laws to deal with the khat problem. Oh boy!
Amanita is a classic white man drug,
this is getting totally out of hand!
http://www.erowid.org/plants/amanitas/amanitas_law.shtml
Effective Aug 8, 2005 (signed into law Jun 28, 2005) Louisiana Act No
159 makes 40 plants illegal, including Amanita muscaria,
--
pete
David E. Powell
If you have a gun in your hand that is ready to fire yes.
Fraser Johnston
"Chilla" <charles...@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
news:4b0cd693$0$1781$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au...
> Well it's illegal in Australia, because... well what isn't illegal in
> Australia?
Drinking beer by the carton.
Fraser
Otto Bahn
-----
Now I don't know, but I've been told,
If the horse don't pull, you got to carry the load...
70-80% of pot seeds from decent stock yield female plants.
Guerilla farming never had it so good. A plant here, a
plant there, sensimillia everywhere.
Finding a single seed in a big kind bud is very good sign.
--oTTo--
Pisces
> "Mark" <blueriver...@yahoo.com> wrote
One way or another
This darkness got to give
Mark
Yes, this is true. Or if you want to get
scientific about it, you may do that too.
Me, personally, like Washington and Jefferson
I find it just as easy to have my slaves go out
there and pull the male plants. Seems to calm
'em down and make 'em happy. Then when
they get back, sometimes I lend Jupiter my
fishing net and give him the rest of the day
off. His wife's cute as a speckled pup.
---
Mark
Chilla
Fraser Johnston wrote:
And a good thing too, I think there'd be rioting on the streets if
prohibition came back.
When you had prohibition, we had early closing, so we have never been a
"dry" country ;-)
Charles
sk3tchA
to have some good shit over there. I would think that you could find
excellent dope, but probably you're too far from south america to have
really good coke cheap. Just my .02
regards,
sk3tch
Don Stockbauer
See what cross-circuited neurons can do??????
Del Cecchi
> sk3tchA wrote:
>> I agree with you guys, this law is totally fucked. Here in Mass, we
>> have a law banning "dagger knives" which is any knife with a double
>> edge blade. What's so fucked about it is that you can buy one right
>> over the counter in just about any hardware or sporting goods store
>> (without showing any ID or special permit) then carry it outside
>> and
>> get arrested for having it. I agree also that switchblades aren't
>> more
>> dangerous than any other type of knife, folding or not. In fact,
>> most
>> folding knives (including switchblades and flick knives) actually
>> suck
>> for knife fighting, because of the construction of the handle. Any
>> knife without a stout crossbar seperating the blade from the handle
>> is
>> actually very dangerous to the user of it. Blood is slippery stuff,
>> and once you strike the first blow, the weapon will be difficult to
>> keep hold of. What's likely to happen is that your hand will slide
>> off
>> the handle and onto the blade, cutting yourself. In the slam the
>> best
>> shanks aren't the ones you see in the movies, with a sharpened
>> point
>> sticking out the end of a handle, but what we called a
>> "punchknife".
>> This is made by having the blade run perpendicular to the handle,
>> so
>> it protrudes from between your knuckles. This is much better for a
>> variety of reasons. It's deadlier (normal boxing blows make you an
>> expert) and It's easier to keep hold of when wet. Most skilled,
>> experienced bladefighters would tell you that the two best knives
>> of
>> all time for actual combat are the bowie, and the sykes-fairbain
>> commando knife, made famous by the SAS. Personally, I'd take a
>> punchknife with a little 3 or 4 inch blade over a switchblade or
>> buck
>>
>> regards,
>> sk3tch
>
>
> Well, you have to live within the law, to do otherwise would make
> you a criminal.
>
> However, there are usually ways around such laws, as long as you do
> a little research.
>
> In Australia, a lot of toys that the Americans play with are not
> available to the general public. You will never be able to walk the
> street with these items in your pocket (and in Australia we don't
> need to), but you can own them for private collections if you get
> the proper licenses.
>
> The argument for a switch blade in Australia is that it's a
> concealed weapon (it's a poor argument, and technical at best).
>
> Defending yourself by force of arms is okay in Oz, and that's as bad
> as it usually gets. We have more than enough Police to keep us
> safe.
>
> Punch knives are also on the prohibited weapons list.
>
> The best weapon is a good Police force ;-)
>
> I've been knife fighting for more than 25 years (sparring), and I've
> never had to use any of it in a real fight.
>
> Knife fighting isn't really about the knife, it's about the fighter.
>
>
>
> Regards Charles
>
You have enough police to keep you safe? I wouldn't feel safe in any
place with that many police? One on every corner? One outside your
house? How are they from stopping the rampaging gangs I keep reading
about?
Here in the USA it is decided law that the police have no
responsibility for one's safety. If you call them and they don't show
up in time (or ever) that is too bad. How is it in Oz? do the
survivors get to sue for tardy response?
del
Del Cecchi
Uh, criminals don't worry about "street legal" since they are
criminals. Dope dealing, robbery, and murder are also generally
unlawful as is possession of a firearm by a felon. So why worry.
You don't need protection? What is population of your three largest
cities?
del
>
Rev. 11D Meow!
Why Gee Duhbya Bloosh ain't peeresident no mo'...
"so, as you all know, the election of the year has caused a lot of
tension between races in some states. my problem is that in the state
that i live in, i feel like i could be a target for abuse or murder
all because of the current election. it honestly has me afraid to
leave my house or be home alone because of all the crime going on.
should i be afraid of going outside or what should i do to stop being
so scared of people that i don't even know?"
- some dumb-ass knife-wielding dumb-ass
Rev. 11D Meow!
what is population of crabs in your nutsack hairs, huh dumbass?
Mark Edwards
>You don't need protection? What is population of your three largest
>cities?
The almanack says "dense". Who needs protection from dumb people?
Mark Edwards
--
Proof of Sanity Forged Upon Request
Del Cecchi
"Rev. 11D Meow!" <Ji...@Crack.corn> wrote in message
news:7eg3h513pjmj9pito...@4ax.com...
same as your IQ. zero.
sorry for not noticing xpost.
Chilla
> You have enough police to keep you safe? I wouldn't feel safe in any
> place with that many police? One on every corner? One outside your
> house? How are they from stopping the rampaging gangs I keep reading
> about?
>
> Here in the USA it is decided law that the police have no
> responsibility for one's safety. If you call them and they don't show
> up in time (or ever) that is too bad. How is it in Oz? do the
> survivors get to sue for tardy response?
>
> del
Yeah we do have enough Police. Not on every corner, but it's the fact
that they are not overloaded, or undermanned that makes the difference.
Those rampaging gangs(?), that's just a media beat-up :-D It's very
interesting to hear these stories come back. Chinese whispers.
The response time is very swift with any of our emergency services.
They're not overloaded. There's no litigation, as the Police always
turn up quickly.
From what I can gather the Police forces in the States "are"
overloaded, and undermanned. I have a friend that works in a Sheriffs
department in the states, and they recently laid off staff. The demand
was still there.
So in your situation you have to look after yourself. We don't have to
do that.
Even in our worst and roughest neighbour hoods, there's minimal threat.
Regards Charles
Guy Namechanger
countries would be safer.
Chilla
> Uh, criminals don't worry about "street legal" since they are
> criminals. Dope dealing, robbery, and murder are also generally
> unlawful as is possession of a firearm by a felon. So why worry.
>
> You don't need protection? What is population of your three largest
> cities?
>
> del
I'm 43 years old and I haven't needed personal protection ever, and as
far as Police protection, I've never had to call on them (touch wood).
Maybe I'm just lucky, or maybe the Police are doing their job.
The three largest cities in Australia (2008)?
Sydney: population - 4.4 million
Melbourne: population - 3.9 million
Brisbane: population - 1.9 million
Total population approximately 21 million
The three largest cities in North America?
New York City 2007: population - 18.8 million
Los Angeles 2006: population - 12.9 million
Chicago 2006: population - 9.8 million
Total population (currently) approximately 300 million
*** Please note: The land mass of North America, is pretty much the
same as that of the island of Australia. We are mostly uninhabited.
Regards Charles
Dr. HotSalt
<peterduncanismyn...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Chilla" <charlesander...@optushome.com.au> wrote in message
Every American who thinks that should emigrate to Australia. You'd
be happier, those who don't agree with you would be happier.
FLAWLESS WIN-WIN!
Dr. HotSalt
Chilla
> every gun in the U.S. should be taken away and sent to Australia. both
> countries would be safer.
They'd either be confiscated or turned into novelty paperweights :-(
Charles
Chilla
Dr. HotSalt wrote:
> Every American who thinks that should emigrate to Australia. You'd
> be happier, those who don't agree with you would be happier.
>
> FLAWLESS WIN-WIN!
>
>
> Dr. HotSalt
That's a pretty good argument.
Mind you the bonus of living in Australia, is that we have copious
amounts of ice cold beer, and more prime A-grade steaks for the BBQ than
you could ever eat, readily available.
Living on an island isn't so bad ;-)
Regards Charles
Chilla
> Most obvious revisionary bullshit ever!!!
Meh... it was told to me by an old gent that used to manage immigrant
workers in Australia.
Maybe he was pulling my leg, but that's the story.
Regards Charles
Bryce Utting
> *** Please note: The land mass of North America, is pretty much the
I[1]FYPFY.
butting
[1] on behalf of the snakes, spiders, snakes, crocs, snakes,
jellyfish, and snakes. oh, and the spiders.
--
http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~butting
> Local newspaper today had a headline "New font for Cathedral"
They just want to advertise that they minister to all types.
-- SteveD vs Tanuki
Cydrome Leader
> Del Cecchi wrote:
>> Uh, criminals don't worry about "street legal" since they are
>> criminals. Dope dealing, robbery, and murder are also generally
>> unlawful as is possession of a firearm by a felon. So why worry.
>>
>> You don't need protection? What is population of your three largest
>> cities?
>>
>> del
>
> I'm 43 years old and I haven't needed personal protection ever, and as
> far as Police protection, I've never had to call on them (touch wood).
>
> Maybe I'm just lucky, or maybe the Police are doing their job.
>
> The three largest cities in Australia (2008)?
>
> Sydney: population - 4.4 million
> Melbourne: population - 3.9 million
> Brisbane: population - 1.9 million
>
> Total population approximately 21 million
>
>
> The three largest cities in North America?
>
> New York City 2007: population - 18.8 million
> Los Angeles 2006: population - 12.9 million
> Chicago 2006: population - 9.8 million
that would be for the chicago area, chicago itself is under 3 million.
John Cook
Bryce Utting <but...@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
> Chilla <charles...@optushome.com.au> wrote:
> > *** Please note: The land mass of North America, is pretty much the
> > same as that of the island of Australia. We are mostly uninhabitable.
>
> I[1]FYPFY.
>
>
> butting
>
> [1] on behalf of the snakes, spiders, snakes, crocs, snakes,
> jellyfish, and snakes. oh, and the spiders.
You left out the stinging plant from North Queensland rain forest - one
touch and it hurts like hell for days - then hurts whenever you get it
wet for another month or so...
--
The Greater Encloses the Lesser
Chilla
Bryce Utting wrote:
> Chilla <charles...@optushome.com.au> wrote:
>
>>*** Please note: The land mass of North America, is pretty much the
>>same as that of the island of Australia. We are mostly uninhabitable.
>
>
> I[1]FYPFY.
>
>
> butting
>
> [1] on behalf of the snakes, spiders, snakes, crocs, snakes,
> jellyfish, and snakes. oh, and the spiders.
They're okay, just don't piss 'em off (sounds like a lot of my relatives
:-D ).
The snakes are the ones that get cranky, and will chase you.
Regards Charles
Chilla
John Cook wrote:
> You left out the stinging plant from North Queensland rain forest - one
> touch and it hurts like hell for days - then hurts whenever you get it
> wet for another month or so...
Cool, you also have to remember not to annoy a male platypus either,
they have a toxic spine on their back flippers. Wont kill you, but it
does hurt a bit.
The flora and fauna is a little rugged, but every country has a few
nasties (granted we have our fair share).
The occasional surprise can be funny. A ring tail possum surprised me
when I was feeding some of my pets at night. I have night blindness and
was feeding them by memory.
A little pink nose sniffed my shin, gave me a start, gave the possum a
start. Funny stuff.
Regards Charles
Chilla
Cydrome Leader wrote:
I took that into consideration. The Australian figures are for the
Sydney, Melbourne, and Brisbane "area" also.
The figures correlate.
Another interesting figure. In about 50 years we'll have a population
of 35 million. America will have something in the vicinity of 450 million.
Regards Charles
Steve Thompson
> sk3tchA wrote:
> >well said, charles.
> >
> >as you probably know, someone unwilling to risk cut-up forearms by
> >grabbing the opponent's (enemy's) knife wrist as tactic #1 is almost
> >always sure to lose... NUFF SAID!
> >
> >here in the states the best tactic is this : bring a knife to a
> >fistfight, a gun to a knife-fight, and a bomb to a gunfight! After
> >that, well, I don't know!
>
> Funny you should say that, the comment "Why take a knife to a gun
> fight?" was used previously on the knife list.
The mythology of conflict seems crippled by a lack of understanding
among it's civilian adherents as compared to the tactics of
militarized populations. If a conflict becomes more than about what
two individuals bring to the fight, the addition of small-unit tactics
adds an entirely new dimension to the subject.
If you threaten me with a knife, and then I go and assemble a group of
dumb thugs to break into your house and beat you in your sleep, you'll
wish you'd had more than a Remington 12-gauge locked up in a closet.
You'll probably want a 7/24 surveillance operation on the person you
threatened so you know where he is while you figure out why it didn't
work quite as planned. Then when you've figured it all out, you'll
also probably want practise some small-unit tactics so you can go back
and do the job properly.
This may sound extreme, but you probably shouldn't underestimate the
value of small-unit tactics in highly urbanized environments. Down in
Texas, where open carry is legal, I've heard of people getting
together and doing coordinated formation rehersals in rush-hour
down-town Dallas pedestrian traffic. Invisibility is the ideal, while
also having personnel optimally positioned to deliver ordinance to the
target. Having a sympathetic local population helps, of course, but
people who like a challenge travel to foreign countries and hold their
excercises in the cities. It's great fun for all concerned. One guy,
who said he did this with his dive buddies all over the world, swore
they had even been approached by a CIA recruiter who was impressed
with their subtlety and success at staying out of trouble.
> It was to do with a very large wasted steel knife. I must admit I gave
> that knife a bagging, I didn't use the term "crowbar", but I came close.
Say, if I file down 1/2 of a crowbar and give it an edge does that
make it technically a knife? Could I file a patent claim for such a
thing?
> Regardless the point in America is that a knife is pretty much useless,
> as you can carry guns. And we're not talking pop-guns either. Some of
> the street legal ordinance would be at home at a minor military action.
It bothers me sometimes to think of all the crazy right-wing
middle-American zealots running around with all that firepower and bad
head work in such close proximity. Say guys, don't forget to engage
the safety on your pieces before you put them in your belts.
> We've never really had guns here in Australia, our population is small
> enough that we don't need them for protection. We don't even need
> knives for protection.
Rumour has it there's some special surprise legislation in the works
for knife owners up here. I can't imagine what it would be, but
chances are it won't affect noisy psychotic man-children much at all.
> Target shooters, farmers/hunters and collectors are the only people that
> want/need them.
>
> Knives, apart from utility knives are really just for collectors.
>
> It's a different country with a different social culture.
No doubt your former shooting population has diverted their interest
in firearms to more wholesome pursuits. Is it still popular to tie an
abbo to the bonnet of your car and then go offroading through the
outback? Or have they, too succumbed to the relentless march of
liberalism.
Regards,
Steve
--
No shirt?
No shoes?
No service.
Chilla
>>It was to do with a very large wasted steel knife. I must admit I gave
>>that knife a bagging, I didn't use the term "crowbar", but I came close.
>
>
> Say, if I file down 1/2 of a crowbar and give it an edge does that
> make it technically a knife? Could I file a patent claim for such a
> thing?
Patent, not sure, but I am making a can opener our of a crowbar... I
came from a comment about a guy using a screwdriver and a hammer to open
a tin of peaches.
>>Regardless the point in America is that a knife is pretty much useless,
>>as you can carry guns. And we're not talking pop-guns either. Some of
>>the street legal ordinance would be at home at a minor military action.
>
>
> It bothers me sometimes to think of all the crazy right-wing
> middle-American zealots running around with all that firepower and bad
> head work in such close proximity. Say guys, don't forget to engage
> the safety on your pieces before you put them in your belts.
Don't mind me, I'm just parroting stuff I've seen in American Police
shows like "Cops" etc.
Just a question, what "can't" you get in the way of firearms. I saw on
Mythbusters the other day a 50 cal. rifle. It made a big boom :-O
>>We've never really had guns here in Australia, our population is small
>>enough that we don't need them for protection. We don't even need
>>knives for protection.
>
>
> Rumour has it there's some special surprise legislation in the works
> for knife owners up here. I can't imagine what it would be, but
> chances are it won't affect noisy psychotic man-children much at all.
Knives are too entrenched in society for them ever to go.
>>Target shooters, farmers/hunters and collectors are the only people that
>>want/need them.
>>
>>Knives, apart from utility knives are really just for collectors.
>>
>>It's a different country with a different social culture.
>
>
> No doubt your former shooting population has diverted their interest
> in firearms to more wholesome pursuits. Is it still popular to tie an
> abbo to the bonnet of your car and then go offroading through the
> outback? Or have they, too succumbed to the relentless march of
> liberalism.
The keen shooters, still have their guns, but under strict controls and
regulations.
Tie an abbo on the bonnet? Aboriginal jokes died out in the late 70's.
People still say them on occasion, but no one finds them funny.
Well, as long as I get my steaks and beer, nothing else much matters ;-)
Regards Charles
Don Stockbauer
Maybe he'll catch some sort of fatal disease.
Chilla
Don Stockbauer wrote:
> Maybe he'll catch some sort of fatal disease.
I have a mental disability... is that good enough? Charles
Mark Edwards
>I have a mental disability...
Looking at the newsgroups header, I thought that was self-evident...