any sort of hope of "reviving the music industry" or "the internet is
going to free us" or whatever shit, is a baseless hope because the
only ingredient that matters - vital interesting compelling music - is
100% lacking. Like, if your product stinks, if your product is
manufactured by braindamaged alcoholic fucking talentless idiot scum
with no skill, no imaginiation, no talent, no discipline, then it
doesn't matter what pipeline you try to sell it through - people don't
want to buy dogshit.
Likewise, if you are making great music that captivates people's
spirit and imagination, it won't matter what pipeline you sell it
through - it will find it's way to the masses. Pramer is obviously
some old hack musician who still hasn't gotten the memo that all music
sucks now.
Hey, Alcandor -- who let you out?
BLP
> Hey, Alcandor -- who let you out?
>
> BLP
I called it first!
> Bands like "the decembrists", wilco, and other worthless bullshit that
> is bound to go the way of hootie and the blowfish - it's all garbage.
> The reason the record companies are dying is because the music is
> dogshit, made by idiots.
People have been touting your bullshit anytime music styles changed. Once
upon a time, old folks thought Bach sucked and wondered what the world was
coming to. They just don't make music like they used to. The truth is,
every generation has its share of crap music. Disco anyone?
-phy
> Hey, Alcandor -- who let you out?
Just tell Legume to stop the masquerade.
All Music Sucks Now - sounds like a good name for a band (that sucks).
I'll call for the time of ANTI-MUSIC
where non-bands and muse-eh-shuns
mug people for a living and wail
in abandoned buildings.
Lugume is not gay enough to be Alcandor
I look forward to the time when I can play the bass-line to "Sunshine of
Your Love" on multiple tuned Levasseur whistles
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrasound).
See "G.G. Allin"
> Bands like "the decembrists", wilco, and other worthless bullshit that
> is bound to go the way of hootie and the blowfish - it's all garbage.
Pop bands are fundamentally disposable. It didn't just start being that
way after you "wised up." I wish I had a dollar for every time I have
seen your entire essay with just the band names different. I'd buy a
gun and next time I saw that essay I would hunt down and kill its
perpetrator for EGREGIOUS DUMBASSERY.
"Oh, yeah, the bands I used to like were REALLY GREAT but now ALL MUSIC
SUCKS."
I went through the Billboard charts recently
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_number-one_hits_(United_States)
For every year they had. Just to remind myself that most of what
people are listening to at any point in time really sucks bad.
Horrible songs written by bands that are quickly forgotten.
And those are the #1 hits. Some of them are not bad, really. I just
pulled up 1973 at random and I like a couple of those songs.
Somewhere though I found a site that had all the top 100 for each week
listed, or maybe it was the top 10.
I mean when it comes to the #1 tune, with the number of bands out
there writing songs, there's a good chance one of them will come up
with a decent one. But then you start looking at #3, #4, #7 for
whatever, January 7 1973 ... and it quickly goes from bad to horrible.
What you really see is that the vast majority of music that's listened
to at any point in time, the success of it has nothing to do with
whether it's a good song or not, but with whatever is trendy at the
time. Godawful disco tunes from the 70's. Godawful bouncey pop tunes
from the 80's. Godawful gangsta hip-hop from the 90's.
What really makes music suck is exactly the kind of people who can't
differentiate between music and "music now", who think that whatever
mindless social ad campaign is being reflected by the most mindless
kind of pop whore at the time is what "music is now".
Which is almost everybody, as far as I can see. But especially the
kind of wheezing gasbag who go on endlessly about society and what
society's problem is.
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
A kangaroo walks into a bar. The bartender says "Hey. Why don't you do
something nobody in this bar has ever seen before?" The kangaroo says
"I'm waiting for a genie." A monkey gets close to the kangaroo and says
"Give me a hundred bucks and I'll pull down your pants."
So the kangaroo says "Paint my house."
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Cheer up gay-boy, I heard the Osmonds are having a re-union tour!
Nenslo,
I understand that you are bitter and resentful of the fact that my
observational skills, street smarts, and cynicism - not to mention my
ability to articulate my observations - fly far beyond your own.
Moreover, I know that you are unhappy that your bullshit oregon hippy
"pagan" lifestyle, culture, and mores are going the way of the
dinosaur - to complete extinction. Too, I understand that the full
weight of the realization that you were fundamentally a dupe for a
phony "counterculture" menu of options that was foisted upon you by
powers far greater than yourself, is only beginning now to darken your
mind, and that you have yet to feel the full impact, or tease out the
ramifications of your poor life choices.
Thus, I will ignore your petty lashing out in insults, and address
only the substance of your post, what there is of it.
The point that you attempt to make, that all music is the same, and it
is only a matter of not liking new or unfamiliar music, is easily
disproven. Any mildly astute observer of cultural reality knows that
there is some art, some music, that people remember for many years,
and take great pains to obtain. They labor greatly to maintain and
perpetuate its existence in the culture. This art is a powerful force,
that drives people to extremes to learn the techniques, to archive it,
to sell it, to maintain its existence by attending concerts, museums,
etc.
The same observer must note that there is art that few people care
about, and that is shortly forgotten, even forcibly forgotten (if
possible), by the observer of that art. How many "bands" or other
musical works that came out since 1995 does anyone still give a damn
about? How about a little Hootie and the Blowfish, anyone? How about
some "new jack swing' with Morris Day and the Time? How about a little
UK Suede? How about all the 100s and 1000s of pieces of TOTAL FUCKING
DOGSHIT that have been promoted in vain by all these crappy slimy
dirtbag record companies that are now going out of business?
You make the stupid mistake that you have been inculcated with through
your miseducation: "Oh there's no difference between any art. It's all
good, there is no high and low in art, that's a hierarchical idea, and
hierarchies are the product of the evil Western Capitalist patriarchal
hegemony, man!"
What a fucking dumbass. If you want to talk about disposable music,
take a listen to your own. don't try to lump everything else in with
your garbage by some sort of marxist levelling of all music. Just
because your music is amateurish disposable junk that no one will
remember 5 minutes after they hear it doesn't mean that all music is.
It sucked a lot more or a lot less, depending on the time slice
chosen. that is empirically provable, by the fact aht there are 100s
of songs from certain time periods in the top 10 that get more airplay
than the current top 10, not to mention the top 10 from, let's say,
1994. There are almost NO songs that get significant airplay from
those years. So people vote with their feet: I'll bet the
freemasonically produced beatles STILL sell more records than all the
crappy post-beatles rock bands that followed them. I'll bet they
outsell coldplay. I hate the beatles, but at least they brought in
skilled musicians who could actually play anything above the level of
an elementary school student.
Godawful disco tunes from the 70's. Godawful bouncey pop tunes
> from the 80's. Godawful gangsta hip-hop from the 90's.
Most of those "godawful" disco tunes are still way more popular than
anything you currently like. Many of them a great fucking songs,
that's why people listen to them more than the pathetic white boy
trash that you're into, that no one likes.
Every time i read one of your posts, i'm reminded that your IQ can't
be above 103, tops. Like you are a little bit above average, but then
you try to pawn that off and play it up as if you have any
intelligence or rational brain capacity whatsoever. You apparently
can't think at all, like you have no ability to follow a logical chain
of rational progression, like "if a is true, then that must mean x".
Like one or two leaps of rationality, and you're lost. I think that's
probably because you were taught in some kind of school run by creepy
white female dingbat feminists, who thought that "rational thought" is
evil, and we must concentrate on "wholistic" methods or some shit.
that's why you can't follow a logical thought beyond one or two
clauses.
> Most of those "godawful" disco tunes are still way more popular than
> anything you currently like. Many of them a great fucking songs,
> that's why people listen to them more than the pathetic white boy
> trash that you're into, that no one likes.
>
FAG ALERT
> Every time i read one of your posts, i'm reminded that your IQ can't
> be above 103, tops. Like you are a little bit above average, but then
> you try to pawn that off and play it up as if you have any
> intelligence or rational brain capacity whatsoever. You apparently
> can't think at all, like you have no ability to follow a logical chain
> of rational progression, like "if a is true, then that must mean x".
> Like one or two leaps of rationality, and you're lost. I think that's
> probably because you were taught in some kind of school run by creepy
> white female dingbat feminists, who thought that "rational thought" is
> evil, and we must concentrate on "wholistic" methods or some shit.
> that's why you can't follow a logical thought beyond one or two
> clauses.
uh OK ... insofar as that had nothing at all to do with anything I
said, and you haven't drawn any connection yourself, I will just let
you enjoy life there in the irony twilight zone.
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
"When two people are under the influence of the most violent, most
insane, most delusive, and most transient of passions, they are
required to swear that they will remain in that excited, abnormal, and
exhausting condition until death do them part."
- G.B. Shaw
Neither can you, 'cause "a" is never true, you dumb shit.
BLP
>On Aug 16, 5:59 pm, anarchicalmo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Every time i read one of your posts, i'm reminded that your IQ can't
>> be above 103, tops. Like you are a little bit above average, but then
>> you try to pawn that off and play it up as if you have any
>> intelligence or rational brain capacity whatsoever. You apparently
>> can't think at all, like you have no ability to follow a logical chain
>> of rational progression, like "if a is true, then that must mean x".
>> Like one or two leaps of rationality, and you're lost. I think that's
>> probably because you were taught in some kind of school run by creepy
>> white female dingbat feminists, who thought that "rational thought" is
>> evil, and we must concentrate on "wholistic" methods or some shit.
>> that's why you can't follow a logical thought beyond one or two
>> clauses.
>
>uh OK ... insofar as that had nothing at all to do with anything I
>said, and you haven't drawn any connection yourself, I will just let
>you enjoy life there in the irony twilight zone.
But yeah, actually, that's a great idea, let's talk about rational
thought processes.
You have never once made a post to usenet that shows an intellectual
development beyond the level of a hyper-aggressive 14-year old boy
with severe social development problems.
The form of your thinking is pretty transparent to anybody but you,
whether they want to see it or not. You walk down the street and see
somebody; a negro, a homosexual, a hot chick, or whatever, that, for
whatever utterly random-assed reason of your own, bothers you. Just
makes you uncomfortable.
Your thought process then is to start thinking up reasons why negroes,
or homosexuals, or hot chicks, or whatever, are utterly evil and bad
and foul. It isn't really even a thought process, it's more that you
just start listing every negative idea you can think of associated
with whatever the group-of-the-moment is. It doesn't matter whether
the negative idea makes any sense, or not, or indeed whether it is
just some completely batshit-insane conspiracy theory. The ideas that
go to make up the list don't have to connect to each other in any way,
most of your posts just consist of you saying "I hate ____ because
____, and also because ____, and also because ____" with the only
common thread between the things being that they all relate to
group-that-made-you-feel-icky of the day.
You don't even seem to GET that, in somebody who isn't all fucked up
in the head, a series of ideas are usually connected in some logical
way. From that I assume that either your mental processes have been
limited to that for so long that you just don't know what it's like to
be able to think straight, or that you have some kind of serious
biologically-based mental disorder.
Your "thinking" is basically nothing but you getting so angry you
could poop yourself at something completely random, like some
dull-witted pubescent boy, and then pooping out a completely
incoherent list of things you hate about the random thing that made
you angry.
Probably it was at exactly the kind of "school run by creepy white
female dingbat feminists" (a completely random idea you threw in
which, since it didn't have even the vaguest relationship to anything
I was talking about, is obviously something out of your own life which
you hate) that they tried to teach you how to think and not have all
those screaming temper tantrums all the time over completely random
shit. When was it, around when you were 13 or 14, that you started
throwing hysterical temper tantrums and they moved you into the "angry
boy" classes at school? But rather than listen to them, you decided
they were a bunch of "creepy dingbat feminists" trying to do something
bad to your head so you just redoubled your tantrums.
So whether your inability to think coherently is some kind of brain
damage or is purely developmental is kind of moot at this point,
because you went through such critical developmental years that way.
Undoubtedly you have been doing your tantrums for many many years,
just based on the ease and fluency with which you produce them. The
vaguest thought leads to another fully-developed steaming pile of
Mikey-poo in a very short time. That's the way it is inside your head
ALL THE TIME.
And you have managed to develop a backdrop against which it all MAKES
SENSE, to you anyway. Kind of a vague conspiracy theory of
"satanists". But what those satanists are or what they are about or
why they do what they do is completely undefined (and irrelevant),
what they are in reality is just sort of a composite of everything and
anything you hate. The "satanists" are WHY everything you hate (which
is pretty much everything period) exists. That's ALL they are.
You're a maladjusted emotionally unstable white guy, so the
"satanists" are basically everything which makes a maladjusted white
guy insecure. Jews, blacks, homosexuals, people who can get laid, hot
women who would never have sex with you with a ten-foot dildo, and so
on.
Your occasional random talk about religion is essentially the same
thing. For all your spews about religion and Jesus, I have never once
seen you mention any actually RELIGIOUS ideas at all. The nature of
God, spirituality, the nature of reality ... which are all what
religion, to non-nutbags, IS. Religion is just a vague concept to you
where the things you hate aren't just things you hate, they are WRONG.
In that though, I'll grant you, you are pretty typical of religious
people I have known.
The utter randomness of your thought process is why most people who
have ever met you, hate you. It's pretty obvious to most people who
talk to you, because most people are used to there being some
underlying thought process in other people, and something at least
resembling a rational relationship between one idea and the next.
Anybody who has read you on Usenet found it pretty obvious. You kind
of don't get that you are like a little kid with his pants full of
poop and that you are the only one who doesn't smell it. (Although
you do have one enthusiastic fan on alt.slack, just for the record.
But I think he is a fan mostly because he likes seeing somebody or
something which will stir up a bunch of shit, and purely for
entertainment value I think there is a lot to be said for that).
So yeah Mikey, go on and tell me about how all music now SUCKS an an
it's because of the DAMN SATANISTS AND CREEPY LESBIANS and then try to
tell me that MY thought process lacks rationality. Because if it's
even physically possible for you to make more sense than that, it
would take years of work to unfuck your red-faced angry-boy
dumbassery, so at least go on being good for a laugh.
Just think Mikey, if you had a personality instead of what you have,
you would probably have had sex with a woman by now.
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
Love to faults is always blind,
Always is to joys inclined,
Lawless, winged, and unconfined,
And breaks all chains from every mind.
- William Blake
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QE motherfuckin' D, boyee!
I agree with every other word in this post.
BLP