Bob's image used in vain...again
Rev. Billie Blackbrain
sacred image of Dobbs with some silly Star Trek Borg crap stuck to his
head as their logo. It looks like it was stolen directly from Sub
Site Art Mines. Evidence can be found here: http://www.terrabite.org.
I don't know if this is a good thing or a bad thing. On the one hand,
payment in the coffee shop is entirely voluntary, so you can get get a
double half-caff mocacino for a dime. On the other hand they are selling
perverted Dobbs head swag on their web site and are probably not tithing to
the church. The owners look awful "pink" to me.
Plus, the whole idea of using Bob to sell "free" coffee just makes my head
hurt.
Amos Happ
kind of behavior would be so infuriating. In the case of a certain
flappy-headed Canadian, I thought, "shit man, just get over it and
stop feeding the demon, he feeds on your bile." But a cursory glance
at this stupid shit here is just appalling. I mean, they don't have
anything to offer, at all. It's not like "Bob" is being deployed in
some kind of novel context or something, or they only have one "Bob"
thing for sale, or like it even relates to the name of their business,
or anything. Here is what they thought:
Bob is popular with computer nerds and hippies
Our payment is optional so, hippies,
We have wifi and our name is Terra Byte (ouch), so, nerds
Nerds also like Star Trek, let's sell some stupid Bob shit quick since
nobody has paid for their coffee in the last 6 months.
(Ed. Note- In their thought process, they didn't even use the sacred
quotation marks.)
Anyway, I sent them a gripe email.
Zapanaz
His wife is hot. So they should be forgiven.
But he's a "countercultural" freemason scumbag, so he should be shot,
and then somebody should be there to comfort the wife.
I volunteer.
--
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International Satanic Conspiracy
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Of is the Frenchwoman on the way a street of long-keeping cheese?
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Doktor J. Kook
<567aa8ae-82c3-49e8...@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
Amos Happ <donn...@earthlink.net> wrote:
Me 2
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If you are a paranoid schizophrenic they probably Are watching you.
You can't lose a war if your goal is to sell weapons - me
Amos Happ
I guess they have plenty of time to drink coffee and be online without
the distraction of having to work the register. Here is what they had
to say. It speaks for itself:
Hi. We looked into this. The Subgenius trademark is borrowed from
a piece of 50's pop-art, the same one we borrowed from.
As you can see, we didn't copy their trademark; our artist drew it
independently from the same "inspiration", and there are substantial
changes and additions.
Refer to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._R._%22Bob%22_Dobbs
" ... J. R. "Bob" Dobbs is the figurehead of the Church of the
SubGenius. His image is derived from a piece of 1950s pop-art. ... "
Our trademark is also copyrighted, and is substantially different.
We are not infringing on the Subgenius trademark in letter nor in
spirit.
Also, we don't use the name "J.R. Dobbs".
Thanks for your mail.
Let me know if you still disagree.
Best Regards,
Terra Bite Lounge
SODDI's Bulgers Removed From Neck
"Amos Happ" <donn...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:dc7927e1-e70d-44a1...@w34g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
They're lying.
Amos Happ
from? I swear I saw it in the art mines back in the day. In fact, I
remember looking for bug porn in about 1997 one night after wrestling
(and beating!) my 7-foot tall friend Snortyshorts, who later that
night drunkenly wet the bed in submission. On the way to said bug
porn, there just may have been some kind of Borg "Bob" pic, perhaps in
unimatrix zero tertiary adjunct to... something or other? I'm too
claustrophobic to go back in them mines right now, 'specially as deep
back as '97.
Ouroboros_Rex
"Amos Happ" <donn...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:dc7927e1-e70d-44a1...@w34g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> I guess they have plenty of time to drink coffee and be online without
> the distraction of having to work the register. Here is what they had
> to say. It speaks for itself:
>
> Hi. We looked into this. The Subgenius trademark is borrowed from
> a piece of 50's pop-art, the same one we borrowed from.
ROFL Great, ask them where they found it. Practically guaranteed that they
didn't find it - they drew it from the trademarked version.
> As you can see, we didn't copy their trademark; our artist drew it
> independently from the same "inspiration",
Not bloody likely. Ask them where they found it.
Zapanaz
On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:32:41 -0600, "Ouroboros_Rex" <i...@casual.com>
wrote:
Yeah that was my reaction ... when I first saw their use of it, it
didn't really rattle me one way or the other, but that weaselly
bullshit rationalization really pissed me off. I'm going to start
pranking those assholes.
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
You mystics are a sorry lot, always whimping about so-and-so's "ego"
getting in the way of their "detachment." Take it to alt.zen.ego-death,
for the love of pete! This is alt.MAGICK.
:: Currently listening to Chal Chal Alyea Al Rumman (Mesapotamix), by Ilham Al Madfai, from "Arabianights", 2002
Two Beans
wrote:
>
They ain't gonna do shit. Best to just wait till Stang returns from
Amsterdam, then go tell on them to him so he can go yell at em.
That is, if you are a fucking snitch.
scalpod
> On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:32:41 -0600, "Ouroboros_Rex" <i...@casual.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
Let 'em make some real money first - THEN CUT THE BASTARDS OFF AT THE
KNEES!
Radix Lecti Artemia Salina
> This weekend I ran across a coffee shop in Kirkland WA that is using the
> sacred image of Dobbs with some silly Star Trek Borg crap stuck to his
> head as their logo. It looks like it was stolen directly from Sub
> Site Art Mines. Evidence can be found here: http://www.terrabite.org.
I decided to email them in order to find out what a Dobbshead had to do
with a coffee shop. Here's their response. Natch, they never answered my
question.
On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:18:55 -0800 "Terra Bite"
<terrabi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We're not trying to infringe on the subgenius logo. Both subgenius
> and we borrowed from the same piece of 50's pop-art, which was in use
> long before subgenius. We don't use the name "Dobbs". Our logo is
> independently drawn and substantially different.
>
> As most of the subgenius crowd have been polite, I might be
> persuaded to change it to make it differ a bit more, but that's it
> really. I don't think we're harming anyone.
>
> Regards,
> Terra Bite Lounge
>
> On Nov 20, 2007 10:52 AM, Artemia Salina wrote:
> > What does a Borg-Dobbshead have to do with a coffee shop?
> >
>
--
Rev. Stang: Hey! You're SubGenius Spice again!
SubGenius Spice: ... i kept forgetting who i was and killfiling myself.
Amos Happ
Holy Man and that we are deep spiritual pain and wrath, You know "It
hurts me. Our clench has been holding emergency meetings and praying
a lot on this,,,"
Rich Clark, aka Left Rev Egg Plant, ULC, CotSG
> I decided to email them in order to find out what a Dobbshead had to do
> with a coffee shop. Here's their response. Natch, they never answered my
> question.
Show the guy this link:
http://www.ladas.com/BULLETINS/1996/FederalDilution.html
Considering that Stang's got these punks beat by about 27 years as to
when the trademark was acquired, these punks may want to check with
their lawyer.
Radix Lecti Artemia Salina
On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:18:55 -0800
"Terra Bite" <terrabi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We're not trying to infringe on the subgenius logo. Both subgenius
> and we borrowed from the same piece of 50's pop-art, which was in use
> long before subgenius. We don't use the name "Dobbs". Our logo is
> independently drawn and substantially different.
Thank you for your response. I'm sure you're very busy. Regarding your
comments above, I think a court of law would disagree with you. The
Dobbshead is a Registered Trademark of the Church of the Subgenius. This
is made evident by the trademark registration symbol next to the Dobbshead
logo on the Church's website http://www.subgenius.com/Graffix/dobbs.jpg
I know for a fact that the registration is legitimate as it was a topic of
discussion with its owner several years ago when the trademark was first
officially registered.
> As most of the subgenius crowd have been polite,
Those who may be contacting you over this issue do not necessarily
represent the Church of the Subgenius in any official way. They are just
people who are legitimately concerned about the Church's welfare, such as
myself. If you should encounter someone who is rude or abusive, please
keep in mind that the Church has no way of monitoring or controlling the
behavior of those individuals and therefor cannot be held responsible for
them.
> I might be persuaded to change it to make it differ a bit more, but
> that's it really. I don't think we're harming anyone.
Again, I think a court would differ with you. Your use of the Dobbshead,
no matter how it has been adorned, is still easily recognizable as a
Dobbshead. This is known as Trademark Dilution in the courts and is
spelled out here: http://www.ladas.com/BULLETINS/1996/FederalDilution.html
You still haven't answered my original question, though, which I
legitimately asked. Why a Dobbshead? What does a Dobbshead have to do with
a coffee shop? I could see using an image of a coffee cup made of 1's and
0's, for example. That makes sense because a coffee cup has some relation
to a coffee shop, but what relation does a Dobbshead have with a coffee
shop?
Two Beans
Internet Lawyers ASSEMBLE!
Radix Lecti Artemia Salina
Sound the bugles! TAR TUH TARRRRRR!
Amos Happ
put together. Kudos!
occupant
I think we should open up another coffee shop in the same general area
and use images of those peoples faces on aborted fetii as our logo.
We could call it "Dead Babies Coffee Shop".
That'll teach 'em.
nenslo
Radix Lecti Artemia Salina <y...@shyeahright.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:18:55 -0800
> "Terra Bite" <terrabi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > We're not trying to infringe on the subgenius logo. Both subgenius
> > and we borrowed from the same piece of 50's pop-art, which was in use
I really doubt they got it from the same book of yellow pages clip-art.
LIARS and WEASELS.
On the other hand, only a subgenius would come up with such an insanely
unworkable business model as a place where you don't have to pay if you
don't want to.
nenslo
I just wrote to that guy telling him the only representative of the
church was Ivan Stang himself, and he was not obligated to answer to
Artemia Salina or anybody else but Stang. So up yours, jerkface.
Radix Lecti Artemia Salina
> I just wrote to that guy telling him the only representative of the
> church was Ivan Stang himself, and he was not obligated to answer to
> Artemia Salina or anybody else but Stang. So up yours, jerkface.
He already knows that he doesn't have to answer to me. He's not even
obligated to answer to Stang, for that matter. So up yours, prune scrote.
Zapanaz
I'm sure glad I decided against using that Hello Kitty image in my art
thing. If Hello Kitty's fans are as scary as "Bob's", it could have
gotten ugly.
--
Zapanaz
International Satanic Conspiracy
Customer Support Specialist
http://joecosby.com/
"For the first time in history of a civilized nation we have full gun
control and registration, our streets will be safer, the police will do
a better job of protecting its citizens, and the world will follow our
lead into the future".
-- Adolph Hitler - 1935
:: Currently listening to Go, 2005, by Daniel Ash, from "Come Alive"
nenslo
Radix Lecti Artemia Salina <y...@shyeahright.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:28:48 -0500, nenslo wrote:
>
> > I just wrote to that guy telling him the only representative of the
> > church was Ivan Stang himself, and he was not obligated to answer to
> > Artemia Salina or anybody else but Stang. So up yours, jerkface.
>
>
> He already knows that he doesn't have to answer to me.
No he doesn't, buttass.
Radix Lecti Artemia Salina
I must admit that you have me there. I am indeed a buttass.
By the way, I just wrote him a letter telling him NOT to listen to YOU
because YOU are not a representative of the church, and therefor you have
no authority to tell him who he is not answerable to!
HA! Take THAT, helmet head!
nenslo
Radix Lecti Artemia Salina <y...@shyeahright.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:49:52 -0500, nenslo wrote:
>
> > In article <credna--O8austja...@giganews.com>,
> > Radix Lecti Artemia Salina <y...@shyeahright.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:28:48 -0500, nenslo wrote:
> >>
> >> > I just wrote to that guy telling him the only representative of the
> >> > church was Ivan Stang himself, and he was not obligated to answer to
> >> > Artemia Salina or anybody else but Stang. So up yours, jerkface.
> >>
> >>
> >> He already knows that he doesn't have to answer to me.
> >
> > No he doesn't, buttass.
>
> I must admit that you have me there. I am indeed a buttass.
>
> By the way, I just wrote him a letter telling him NOT to listen to YOU
> because YOU are not a representative of the church, and therefor you have
> no authority to tell him who he is not answerable to!
>
> HA! Take THAT, helmet head!
Consider it taken, weenie dick.
Rev. James Slaughter
> Consider it taken, weenie dick.
Smeghead!
Radix Lecti Artemia Salina
EDAM CHEESE! THAT'S what that red helmet reminds me of; a big ball of Edam
cheese with the red wax rind! And nenslo is DUTCH, too! It all fits
together so neatly!
ima
wrote:
Oh good, a comments section on their merchandise page
Rev. Billie Blackbrain
> I'm sure glad I decided against using that Hello Kitty image in my art
> thing. If Hello Kitty's fans are as scary as "Bob's", it could have
> gotten ugly.
If Univerals' crack squad of lawyers find out about them violating
Star Trek copyright with their "Bobby Borg" image, scary Subgenius will be
the least of their worries.
The Dutiful Rev. Tankler
<billie.blackbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This weekend I ran across a coffee shop in Kirkland WA that is using the
> sacred image of Dobbs with some silly Star Trek Borg crap stuck to his
> head as their logo. It looks like it was stolen directly from Sub
> Site Art Mines. Evidence can be found here:http://www.terrabite.org.
>
> payment in the coffee shop is entirely voluntary, so you can get get a
> double half-caff mocacino for a dime. On the other hand they are selling
> perverted Dobbs head swag on their web site and are probably not tithing to
> the church. The owners look awful "pink" to me.
>
> Plus, the whole idea of using Bob to sell "free" coffee just makes my head
> hurt.
fucking asshole dickwads!
they ONLY thing they're asking money for is worthless shit with "bob"
heads? "coffee? wifi? food? ehhh, pay as you feel. or not at all.
but all this crap with the church's copyrighted image? yeah, give us
money for that."
i think i remember someone suggesting this place for the recent
seattle devival planning meeting . we should have gone and chewed
them out in person. but fuck going to kirkland. seriously.
eddieVroom
> fucking asshole dickwads!
> they ONLY thing they're asking money for is worthless shit with "bob"
> heads? "coffee? wifi? food? ehhh, pay as you feel. or not at all.
> but all this crap with the church's copyrighted image? yeah, give us
> money for that."
If the option were that they added "spend money on Bob" to the
"optional" list, the church is probably better off with that happening.
I figure that if they fly the Dobbshead long enough, "Bob" WILL come to
them. and Connie. And once they've had their cherries popped, they're
pretty much IN.
They'll likely settle up on their own after that.
--
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the Mystical RevvedErrand Doktor eddieVroom
Northern Lights Motor Lodge
Knights of the Visible Wank-L
He only comes out when I drink my Djinn...
Rev. James Slaughter
so are they in the book of life?
St. And/Or
They knew what they were doing - they even took out the (R) coming out
of the part in "Bob's" hair. "Oh, that was a 'Registered Trademark'
symbol? We thought it was some kind of insect."
RevBillyBlight
I even did my part by writing an angry letter.
Rev. James Slaughter
> This fills my belly with all kinds of fury.
>
> I even did my part by writing an angry letter.
They still haven't written me back. Pudsuckers.