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Subject: Greer Will Be On Art Bell Show. May 10, 2000.

Here is something that just came in.

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From: "A.J. Craddock" <webm...@cseti.org>
Subject: CSETI's Dr. Steven Greer on "new" Art Bell show, Wed. May
10th CSETI's founder and International Director Dr. Steven Greer will
be a guest on the "new" Art Bell radio show hosted by Mike Siegel on
Wednesday May 10th.
The show can also be received live via Streaming Audio from the
Art Bell Website. http://www.artbell.com
Topics that Dr. Greer will be discussing during this two hour show
will include latest events with regard to Extraterrestrial Contact,
the status of the Free Energy Device previously discussed on the
show, plus potential future events with respect to the development
and introduction of Free Energy.
Dr. Greer's best-selling book, "Extraterrestrial Contact" - the
Evidence and Implications, can be ordered from the Website.
http://www.drgreer.com
Regards
Tony Craddock
Web Administrator
CSETI
<http://www.cseti.org>http://www.cseti.org

John Winston. john...@mlode.com
The show will start in 6 minutes.

John F. Winston

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Subject: Have You Seen The New Star Crusier 2000? May 5, 2000.

I'm not talking about the convertible model of the Taurus 2000
but something entirely different. You'll this very close to the
Sun. Here is more about it.

Oh yes, I just through seeing the movie called "Frequency". It's
great and I highly recommend it. It talks about a man communicating
with his dead father by ham radio and it's fiction.

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From: H M
Subject: The Final Countdown
The website where these articles came from and where the "hotlinks"
are located is:
http:www.freeyellow.com/members7/howardmj/links.html
Howard Middleton-Jones
A CRUCIAL UPDATE FROM 'THE TEAM'
PART IV THE FINAL COUNTDOWN!
JW Please don't ask where the three other parts are because I don't
have them.
Clarity of thought

The following article is probably the most crucial and important
document that most of you will ever read in this lifetime! It is
essential, whatever your beliefs and followings, that, if nothing
else, you at least read the following information, it may have a
profound effect in all our lives on this planet and prepare the way
for humanity.

Is there a war going on in the outer reaches of our Solar system?
Can we protect planet earth, which is about to enter the next
ascension? And can we avoid being drawn into it - we may, if we can
acquire the attention of certain agencies as to the correct method of
protection as laid down under this planet aeons ago. What are those
enormous anomalous objects observed orbiting our sun, and what is
their intention?

READ ON -. YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW:

Many of you may have read the GENESIS CONNECTION dealing with our
true origins on this planet, and much was further clarified in our
second article CRYSTAL CLEAR concerning the crystal deep below the
Giza plateau connected with other global crystals. We then submitted
a third article 2012, Comet Lee and the birth of our new neighbour
offering an explanation as to what has been going on in our skies of
late. These are essential background reading material to appreciate
what we are about to reveal.
It is imperative we now finally release the most important of
articles to the world. Read, think and decide for yourselves, this is
your planet and your children's. The most crucial choice of free will
ever!
When one is dealing with such an article it is difficult to attempt
an explanation in the normal scientific, and generally accepted
theories and concepts. For much of what is about to be revealed has
no proper understanding in the physics and biology as we know it
today.
As we consider time, as we know it, is of the utmost urgency, we will
attempt a succinct overview placing the relevant explanatory links,
with photographs, articles and graphics, in order you may visit these
sites to graphically visualise the true purpose of what is about to
occur.
Well, what is about to occur? Although the answer may appear bizarre
and unbelievable, and some may say a conspiratorial revelation, the
plain simple fact of the matter is we are about to be drawn into a
war of cosmic proportions!!
On August 11 1999, we witnessed the last solar eclipse of this
century, and in certain countries a number of anomalous objects were
observed It was thought at the time that Comet Lee had fragmented
while on its trip around the sun, however, the important fact is that
with the appearance of Comet Lee, Electro magnetic activity increased,
as did the solar flare activity.

For more of this go to the MILLENIUM GROUP.

In addition, prior to the eclipse, in May, an intriguing CROP
FORMATION was seen in UK representing the very same event that was
witnessed on the 11th of August. Someone somewhere was trying to
tell us something?
Since that date we have been experiencing many anomalous atmospheric
events, severe weather, many EARTHQUAKES on or near ancient sacred
sites, FIREBALLS and unexplained lights in the skies. Not to mention
the increased sightings of Unidentified flying objects.
Not only have these phenomena been witnessed on a global scale, but
recorded on MAGNETOMETER and SEISMOMETER charts at varying locations.
As we explained in the Crystal Clear article, these fireballs and
unusual lights in the sky are possibly the reaction to and association
of the residual effects of inter-dimensional activity.
In addition to these events, and often in tandem with high
HAARPactivity, and anomalous RADAR RINGS have been observed, mainly
encircling military installations in North America. What is going on?
We believe that in a number of instances these events were a
process of "targeting", which was completed around the 17th,
November. Also witnessed were the numerous sightings of large black
triangular UFO's, materialising in and out of our atmosphere, these
are Plasma Target Specific Bombers. They are unmanned (drones)
devices, which target an area, enter, dump and retreat through their
locked vortex portals.
To assist us in explaining what is actually happening we are going
to initially refer the reader to the last article published 2012,
Comet Lee and The Birth of Our New Neighbour. However, it is now
crucial to understand what has, and is, going on around our sun,
and how this will affect our planet and all that dwell on it.

THE "SUN CRUISER OR ORCA

In the latter part of 1998, the Internet began circulating with
photographs of unusual objects observed around our sun, captured
by the SOHO and LASCO satellites, controlled by N-SA The complete run
through of all these may be found at ORBIT. Eventually the terms of
reference for these anomalies were referred to as the ORCA and the
SUN CRUISER which resulted in a feverish "search for the real truth"
campaign by a number of dedicated and serious researchers. You may
link to a few of them HERE. More recently, on September 22nd,
1999, an extremely unusual anomaly emerging from the sun was observed
on one of the LASCO satellites, which soon after "went down" and
remained down for some time. This pulse beam effect was affectionately
termed as some form of STARGATE which was analysed to find out
exactly what this anomaly composed of. We glossed over this in the
2012, COMET LEE article, while for more detailed information on the
latest update and the complete overview link to the MILLENNIUM GROUP.
We now come to the most crucial hypothesis of this whole affair,
and as you will see may in fact turn out to be much more than pure
conjecture, this is HAPPENING right NOW, and we can no longer
ignore the evidence which is materialising before our very eyes.
Those anomalous objects, (termed Sun cruisers) and there are now at
least two, are in fact PLASMA carriers, of gigantic proportions, said
to be in excess of three thousand miles across!
These carriers will initiate an artificial disturbance within the
sun, causing the sun to eject two massive CME's. (Coronal mass
ejections) The trajectory of these CME's will be directed at earth,
at which time all satellites will be placed out of commission, as will
the entire power grids.
It is at this point, we too will enter into the war with the
Draconians.

BELIEVE IT!

(JW Let's work together to not make this happen.)

Recently, many anomalous radar rings have been observed on
satellite weather channels over North America, all of which seem to
be associated with, and protecting, a number of military
installations. Areas such as Nellis Naval strategic weapon FAC,
Fort Knox, "Area 51" ("Dreamland"), Standiford USAF, the list goes
on.

These appear to be attempts, utilising electromagnetic field
shielding from minor incoming, this will have no affect on the direct
massive CME deployment whatsoever!
The exact timing of the "attack" is not known, but from information
relayed to us it seems very soon, communication was terminated before
an exact date could be established. All we have is the "transmission"
of Wednesday/Thursday, Wednesday/Thursday (repeated). Due to the
increase in the electromagnetic field around the globe, it seems that
communication is very difficult to penetrate. The plasma carrier will
move closer to earth as the initial assault begins.
The most upper thoughts in one's mind as you read are,
understandably, why is this occurring and who is the aggressor? The
answer, as to be expected is complex, and one that extends way back
in time on this planet. To acquire a quick background on this, a read
of the GENESIS CONNECTION may be helpful.

JW It's now 5-6-2000 and we are all still here. I can't say whether
or not we had anything to do with making the bad things that were
forecast for 5-5-2000 to not happen but I thank you people for
helping me out.

Part 1.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com

John F. Winston

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We have to look to our true origins on this planet to find an
answer, and as our time for a full explanation is very limited, we
will merely point out the following.
We, on earth, are a combination of races from several worlds, where
the soul (see article on soul machine under Giza) migrates from
one place to another within a given time frame. Our strongest
representation on this planet is the Pleiadians, or Plejarians. The
Pleiades is a star cluster situated in the constellation of Taurus,
approximately 450 light years distant, in the time frame as we know
it. However, the majority of the existing souls here are the one's
which are displaced as they were held back from making ascension the
last time around. Thus, it is the work of THOTH ancient Egyptian g-d
of wisdom and many other attributes that is of the most utmost
importance.
Thoth has noted and logged each soul, while at the same time
monitored its progress over time. Therefore, to make ascension one
has to be preferably "selected" as a group, not individually.
A "deal" was struck with the Galactic council way back in time,
originally because the Plejarians had all but eradicated the
reptilian life forms from the surface of this planet aeons ago. The
Plejarians have since lived and existed under a completely different
belief system, e.g. light verses dark.
Additional information on the above will be disclosed as soon as
this most crucial update is published.
The next question then I hear you ask is WHY? And exactly WHAT do
THEY want?
They are here to procure the already harvested resources. They
require your soul (remember the Giza soul machine) the pure energy
of souls. They do not wish to give people the chance to make that
ascension into the new time frame that is about to occur.
In our previous articles on the GENESIS CONNECTION and 2012, COMET
LEE we explained how we arrived at and the importance of, the date
December 21st. 2012, also known as 'MAYAN END TIME'. At this time
the universe will begin to expand and all universal bodies will
evolve to their next state.
Whether the form is passive or negative depends upon their
immediate relationships to their respective sources. Some will move
to their second, third or fourth levels, while others will come
under the influences of new (secondary) sources. Because the
progression is linear, this time frame will have come full circle,
however it is important to note that this time frame in fact will
always exist. It exists because it justifies the existence of the
next time frame. To illustrate this point we may take the example of
the computer system used in the PHOENIX PROJECTS.
If the system utilised time (zero time) as being the time at the
centre of the galaxy, that time frame will not exist past 21st
December 2012. Those of you who have knowledge of Remote viewing
techniques will appreciate the problems involved of "viewing" beyond
that date!
Subsequently, they will not be able to vortex past that time.
It is possible, but not recommended, to vortex through time frames
connecting the two, a highly dangerous activity. See THE PHILADELPHIA
EXPERIMENT.
Therefore, to possess this knowledge, combined with the ability to
implement said knowledge, would be earth's best defence system.
To put this into perspective, would you send an attack force to a
planetary system knowing that the force may be re-routed and vortexed
in time?
While simultaneously knowing that at zero time there exists no
point of reference to calculate your exit with! Sheer suicide. Shades
of STARGATE one may think?
Thus, this time change event is the reason for the acceleration of
the war which IS happening NOW just beyond our solar system, beyond
JUPITER and which is beginning to escalate, consequently drawing
planet earth into it!
It is apparent that this conflict, believe it or not, is between,
for want of a better description, the Inter Galactic Federation
and the Sirian group, also involving the Draconians and Orions.
Earth was invaded aeons ago by a REPTILIAN RACE (Draco?) that
arrived in a gigantic carrier (possibly similar to our Plasma beam
carrier). This race was ultimately driven off the surface of the
earth by settlers of the Lyraen Empire and thus went underground.
There, they remained in STASIS until at such time they would be
"re-activated" by an incoming ship, such as the passing of Comet
Lee and subsequent anomalous objects observed orbiting our sun.
It is understood that at some point in the near future earth may be
invited to join this "federation of Planets", but apparently only if
successful in repelling this forthcoming "invasion" force.
Alternatively, planet earth could become the target of the
Federation until the Reptilian race is removed.
Aeons ago deals were made, which still remain valid today, between
our forefathers and the "Council", or Federation, which prohibit
unsolicited intervention by outside members allies. Unsolicited,
yes, but who here has the authority to ask on our behalf??

How can Mother Earth be protected?

There is a possibility of a natural defence, via the GLOBAL GRID OF
CRYSTALS situated on ancient sites around our planet, of which we will
describe in more detail below. There is also a possibility that, if
for some reason the work by some of our "scientists" has put us into
a time lock, we may ask for "outside" assistance, however this
scenario is governed by our explanation regarding unsolicited
assistance above.
However, we have in place a form of "natural" defence, that which
lies beneath our very feet, that of the Crystal Global Grid (see also
work by BRUCE CATHIE placed and instigated at the many ancient
sacred sites located around our planet. These were artificially laid
down thousands of years ago for the purpose of the stabilisation and
to form a protective "shield". The focal point is the GIZA PLATEAU
while many other secondary crystals exist at these ancient sites, of
which may be found at the following sites:
STONEHENGE, MEXICO, EASTER ISLAND, NEW ZEALAND (Green Stone Trail),
NEWGRANGE (Ireland) TIBET, IRAQ (Kurdistan) Ayres Rock in AUSTRALIA
and many more.

Remember the earthquakes at these and other sites??

As we explained in our article CRYSTAL CLEAR the centrally located
crystal, lies deep beneath the Pyramid complex on the Giza Plateau,
Cairo, and adjacent to what some refer to as THE HALL OF RECORDS.
This is the crucial crystal, which needs to be re-aligned to
stabilise the earth's core. Once this has been carried out, all other
crystal should re-align.
The Great Pyramid is of a most complex design and situated on the
most centrally located land mass of our earth, where the southernmost
adjacent satellite pyramid, often referred to as Isis (earth) or
Horus, is the central focal point of energy.
It is imperative that this CRYSTAL SHOULD BE ALIGNED in order to
afford earth the protection she needs for imminent incoming.
Certain terrestrial authorities know of this, and have been
informed, soon the WAKE UP CALL will arrive and it will be too late!!
This is purely a succinct overview in the time available to inform
YOU, the people of this planet what is going on, you have the choice
of FREE WILL, exercise it. PLEASE.
We will be updating literally over the next few days with hard
evidence to support the above claims. Please stay with us, we HOPE
we will be back.
Thank you.
) Howard Middleton-Jones
) James M Wilkie
December 5th 1999
UPDATE - 15th.December - PART VI -THE GREAT EXPERIMENT
UPDATE - 14th.December - PART V - THE ERIDEANS AND ANUNNAKI
To follow the background of the above and for further updates
please follow the links below:
PANSPERMIA
ARCHAEOASTRONOMY AND ANCIENT CIVILISATIONS
AMBILAC
ORBIT
UPDATE - 10th.December - Strange ROD-shaped object observed orbiting
sun at 1 million miles per day! See SOHO SATELLITE PIC Link here for
more DETAILED ANALYSIS
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JW Holy cow. How do I get myself connected with these sort of
things? I hope we can work out something so these things don't
happen or are spread out in time.

Part 2 of 2.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com

John F. Winston

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Subject: Previous Lives. May 6, 2000.

Here are some questions that a person asked me.

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Now I want to ask Johnny something...
Johnny. I am ready to hear of your past life experiences, if you
would share them. I just got off the phone with a friend of mine who
lives in So. Cal. he and his wife are very old friends of mine. I
found out he has been an avid Chis-ian for years. What does this
have to do with your past lives? Well, I was wanting to shoot you the
question for a few days anyway. But upon talking with him, I realized
AGAIN that I wondered how you are able to blend one belief with
other spiritual activities, as he cautioned me that he believes it is
not the good angels who medium for things here such as for talking
with spirits, or finding out stuff even about oneself ( uh huh, like
past lives) I guess the bi-le says we shouldn't mess with stuff like
that? I haven't read that part yet, but I have heard it numerous
times from others.
Anyway, the original Q was if you would share your past life info,
and then the second is the rest of that stuff I just said. LOL!
Love and blessings
X. (JW X is not this person's real initial).

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JW I'll be glad to give you my opinion about why I think I've lived
before, tell you some of my past lives and answer your questions as
best I can.

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Many years ago it a country called America, in state called California
there was a Texan called John Winston. He was just getting along fine
working on the sides of an Atlas Missile, which contained a many megaton
H- bomb. The bomb would have blown him up, blow a 350 feet hole in the
ground and would have killed everything for about 10 miles around. He
then got this idea in his mind, "John you should take off from this
place, because there is something that you need to do, so sell what
you have and go to a place that I will show you and I'll let you know
what it is that you need to do." I then moved to While Horse, Yukon
and attempted to go into the commercial fishing business, you know
guiding movie stars, like Bing Crosby, to go out fishing and catch
more than 36 lb. trout. It was nice but it wasn't for me so I went
to the San Francisco Bay Area.
I thought it might be that I was to find Noah's Ark. I went over
to a weird place in Berkeley, Calif. called the San Antonio Street
College of Metaphysics Inquiry. They were having a lecture about the
Shroud of Turin. They had speakers like Michael X. Barton, who my
friend thought was so small and skinny that a good wind would blow him
away. While there I met a cripple man who was to become my teacher or
as some people would say my Guru. I also met and became friendly with
a millionaire called John Hopkins. He was kin to the hospital Hopkins
so I guess he was a millionaire because he did have a mansions where
these lectures were given.

While talking with John H. later the subject got around to flying
saucers and he evidently had come in contact with some of the space
people. He told me that before I would be able to understand the
flying saucer situation I would have to understand who I had been in
my previous lives. That sort of shocked me and I told him that if
he thought I would ever believe anything like that he was going to
be sadly mistaken because I would never believe that.

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After telling John H. that i would never believe that I had
live before I came in contact with a group called "The Universarium
Foundation." They did a lot of research into who people were in
previous lives and talked about a person from England and the UK
called Joseph Busby. They said that he was the present incarnation
of the Prophet Ezekial who was from the Old testament. They also
mentioned that he was going to be in the San Francisco Bay Area in
a town that is on the way to Santa Cruiz, Calif. Shortly before that
time I had found out who I was in several lifetimes.

I contacted his people and made an appointment to see him. When
I showed up on time at a certain place his wife was serving as as
a hostess and social secretary for him. After talking with her
for a while she made the statement to me, "Don't I know you." I
responded to this question by saying, " You probably do because I
was alive during the time that Je--s was on Earth and I heard him
speak at Capernium. After hearing him teach I became a disciple of
his but did not follow him around. My name was Jacob Don Ami and I
was a Statesman and Judge." She then said that she she was alive
during that time also. I then asked her who she was and she sort
of slowed down and said that she didn't discuss that information
with most people. I left the conversation at that and stood up
and shook her hand. When I took the hand of this approximately
72 year old lady's hand the energy from me came into her, it came
back to me and the energy built up even more. It then went back
into her and her whole body shook, her knees buckled and she
nearly feel down. I didn't do this on purpose but it just happened.

I next was introduced to Joseph Busby and he was a grand ole
English gentleman. He talked with Oxford Kings English. I got down
to the point immediately and asked him, "Were you the prophet Ezekial
in a previous lifetime." He then told me, "My dear Mr. Winston I
prefer not bask in the effulgence of a previous incarnation because the
only thing that is important is what you are doing now. The next
question I ask was, "What was it that Ezekial saw, The Wheel in a
Wheel?" He then told me, "My dear Mr. Winston, it was an
interdimensional alien vehicle that picked him up on the sides of the
river, took him many miles away and finally picked him up again and
deposited him at the original place."

So that is my encounter of the third kind with Ezekial.

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Next I will put down something from a web site of a person who
has written a screen play that he would like to be put into a movie
about Ezekial.


EZEKIEL'S WHEELS - THE MOVIE
We appreciate you checking us out. The purpose of this site is to
promote our screenplay Ezekiel's Wheels - The Movie.

If you're a director or producer seeking a movie script which offers
fresh insight into one of mankind's greatest mysteries, you've come to
the right place. We won't waste your time telling you how good we
think this play is. We'll let the following information and synopsis
speak for itself.
Ezekiel's Wheels - The Movie delves into the mysterious writings of
the Hebrew prophet, Ezekiel. If you've never read the Book of Ezekiel
in the Old Testament, you're missing a wonderful X-Files account of an
event which took place a little over 2500 years ago. We refer to it
as, "The Chebar River Incident." This Hebrew prophet speaks of
encountering flying wheels, bizarre looking creatures accompanying the
wheels and his dissatisfaction of being frightened half to death, a
it roughed up and worst of all, taken against his will by the wheels
and creatures to spread the word of "things to come." Honest, that's
what he says. Does such talk have a familiar modern-day ring to it?
Considering the vernacular to express things back in those ancient
times, let's see if we might extrapolate from Ezekiel's
observations a more current description.

John F. Winston

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Subject: News From My Spiritual Warrior Friends. May 7, 2000.

A couple of nights ago there was a policeman who was on the Art
Bell show with Bob Longsberry doing the hosting. This policeman said
that he was a member of the Wicca movement. He has written a book
called Wicca Warrior or Wiccan Warrior. What he said sounded pretty
good to me because he didn't believe in doing anything that would
hurt other people. He believed in improving his own self.

Tonight, Sunday the 7th of May, did have the Hula Clark interview
on TV in this part of Centeral Calif. It was on channel 6 the PBS
channel at 1:00 PM. The show is only listed as Journal. It should
be on once a week for all of May.

Now here is some information from some of my spiritual warrior
friends.

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From: S
Subject: Work May 4, 2000
Hi Guys!
Well, there is more. I usually don't send out this many reports, but
this one had to be sent, also. We did some more work this morning.
We were inspired to check on the crystals of the earth from the articles
that Mark Stearn had written and sent to me. When we checked on the
crystals before, we found that they had been messed with by the evil
forces, so we thought we should check on them again. When we tried to
find out who was messing with them, we tuned in on the Group Spirit of
the crystals, and a huge dude showed up who was heavy set, light colored
- no darkness - and it turned out he was the Group Spirit of the
Crystals!!! We did the transformational procedure on him including the
SDA (spark of Divine Awareness) and the UL (Unconditional Love) gift,
and put him in the black hole and UltraViolet Laser Beam. I felt that
his crown chakra was messed up, and it was reversed, so we straightened
it out, and then Jack looked inside his crown chakra, and it was one
mass of slime, puss and other putrid stuff. It was totally plugged up
and shut down! So we got the Galaxy Being to come in and vacuum it out
and de-slime us. Whew! Then we made sure all his energies were
straightened out and that the energies could be connected on up to
Source.
After he was straightened out, all the slime in the earth started
pouring out the crystals all over the earth, and it was really yucky!!!
UGH! So we called in the Quasar Being since it seemed it would probably
be too much for the Galaxy Being to handle. After the darkness and
slime was all cleaned up, we reversed the crystals and pulled Universal
Energies down into the earth, which loosened up the rest of the slime
and darkness, so we reversed the crystals again and it all left.
Awesome!!! Things instantly lightened up!
Jack was making notes of the episode and we were letting it rest for a
moment. Then Jack said the "gang" wanted us to look at the earth and
how it was being activated. Wowiee Kazowieeeeee!!! I tuned in and a
huge surge of energy went through me into the earth. I felt like I was
merged with Gaia and all this energy was going through!!! Amazing! The
energy went through for a long time, and I could feel Gaia crying from
relief and Jack was crying from joy! But I got a bit damaged by it, and
my s-x chakra felt like it was torn, and the healing gang had to do some
healing on me to fix it up. It was the most energy I had ever felt!
The se- chakra relates to empathy, and mine wasn't open enough due to
residual feelings of unworthiness and inferiority. So Jack did the
equal/opposite/merge on it for me, and he said it was the strongest
surge he had ever felt, but it turns out it was probably for all of
Humanity. Maybe now the world will get over feelings of inferiority and
inadequacy.
Then Gaia was wanting to say something, and Jack tuned in and she said,
"I'll never be the same again. I and the earth are now one body."
After this was all over, there was a conference going on amongst the
Higher Beings involved, and they were trying to figure out what was next
because this had thrown the earth into an accelerated evolution beyond
what they had planned for this time. But it was what Mark Stearn had
asked for and programmed for. LOL!
So we realized that Missy, the Group Spirit of Humanity, probably needed
some more work to catch up with what just happened. We superimposed the
group spirit of the Crystals on her, and her thymus burst open, and the
energies were rushing through, and she was looking confused. We did
equal/opposite one the confusion, and it calmed down. Then we had to
work on the 8th and 9th chakras to get the energies going on up
through. We had to remove the blockage in her -ex chakra. All the
energies rushing through sort of put me on overload. I am still in
shock and trying to recover. Whew!
Then the focus of things changed. I remembered seeing my lower back
last night as I was waking up, and voices saying, "We are all here." I
didn't know who "we" were. So Jack consulted my higher self, and it
said that all my lifetimes from this reality and all others were here!
Wow!!! So we did a healing on the group spirit of them
multidimensionally, and I really felt different after that! Then we did
the same for Jack, and requested of the Healing Gang and the Holy Spirit
that the same be extended to all Humanity, and it was done! I think we
just went to warp 10 ascension rate! Sananda said, "You have just
united all Humanity. Pretty good for a morning's work!" It's not as if
we didn't have enough help! The astral healing crew is enormous!!!
They feed us the ideas. We probably should have picked up on the Group
Spirit of the Crystals sooner.... It seems like our crew is cleaning up
the messes, and Mark Stearn's group is bringing in the new stuff. If
you want to know the awesome stuff they have been doing with their
crystal work, write to Mark at:
<marks...@yahoo.ie>
I saw that Missy and Gaia need to be merged, but Jack said not yet, to
wait awhile. It was very hard for me to wait, being an impatient
Sagittarius and all....Anyway, the ascension has been moved
forward......, again.
Love,
S

John Winston. john...@mlode.com

John F. Winston

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Subject: News From A Person In The Ashtar Command. May 8, 2000.

Here is some information from a person who says that he is in the
Ashtar Command. Let's see what he has to say.

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From: j m s

Subject: Sharing from Cdr.Lyur

Dear friends of Light,

This is Cdr.Lyur (Jean Michel), from the Ashtar Command. I am new to
this list, so to present myself I am bringing you my own "regular Star
People" personal story which is surely similar to many of your own
experiences.

For the friends who know me, I am no longer in Iowa but in NC and
have changed everything including new URL and rebuilt my web site :
www.channeling.net/LyurAC I will be speaker at the Star Knowledge
Conference in Atlanta next July 2000.

I also have been told by my contacts, the wonderful beings aboard
the Starships "Light", "Crystal-Bell" and "Janus", that time is
coming close for rescue/sanctuaries operations by the Fleet of
Sananda (Je--s) and Ashtar, and there is some last work to be done,
so I am organizing this: Preparation for the Ascension * Expedition
for Gridwork and Contacts with the Fleet. Groups with Cdr.Lyur in
the Southwest of the USA, summer and autumn 2000.

The groups will be composed of Star People. We will start from
Houston or Dallas because half of the group is coming on a direct
flight from Germany. Planned for august and for mid or late october.
Duration: 10 days or two weeks. We have Gridwork to perform in a
place almost never activated by Lightworkers, and contacts with the
Fleet of positive Ets on a base near by. I guarantee you will see
the spaceships and even you could take them on video. We will attempt
group contact. I have my own personal contacts, but "group contact"
is really a "premiere", I am very excited about it, and you will be
too! For info contact for European countries Starcrystal at:
dan...@jahn-family.de and for the Americas and other continents:
cptn...@hotmail.com now my personal experience for you:

My own story
by Commander Lyur

I do not find my adventures extraordinary or different from many
hundreds of other commanders on the planet. This is just one of the
many regular Starfleet missions.

But I know that you like somehow to have some confirmations, some
personal concrete stuff, some positive proofs, something that you may
say "Maybe that incredible is credible after all". Here we are.
Cdr.Lyur personal log. Local space/time; end 40s, planet Earth time.
Starship "Light" in stationary orbit. Officers and crew all standing
in the main mighty hall, golden radiance from the crystal walls.
Laughter and tears past, good-byes have been made. It will be a long
time before we meet again.

All ranks to attention. Separation of ship underway. Officers and
crew have splitted in half, on each side. Captain Awaana is as
beautiful as ever in her golden uniform. I am on the other side.
"Everything in order. Going to be all right, number One. You all
will have full back up. Shuttles on patrol and rolling round the
clock for each of you." Sure we will all be fine, Starfleet never
fails. "Engage ship separation" That's it, we are gone, the Starship
split, she separate her atoms, she duplicate herself, a genesis, a
birthing.

Earthlings will record these splitting of spherical Starships,
photos, and even films by Russian military. The away team feels
itself in a golden orange ball, separating from... "mother'? There
will be a mother all right, for each of us, and pretty soon.

A last thought transfer, a telepathic love kiss between us. See
you down there. Hey Lykan, have you chosen them? No, I go on
automatic. How are we to find each other? They will put the magnetic
tracks to gather us at phase 4.

Magnetic tracks, how in heaven could they work in such a heavy
soup? "Hold on, boys and girls, we go now. Good luck to each of you.
The ship #2 will wait for us, orbiting right here.

Now, go!"

This is a black hole; the stepping-down training was not like that...
Too dense black. Shrinking, falling... And that hurting light...
Only a few days, I remember. So difficult to stay in that tiny body,
energy spiraling all over. I have seen the ears, why so. Big. Yes
they are not telepaths, they need them. Talking, how to communicate
with only talking. And they listen only to their own voice. Feel so
alone. They too feel so alone, all of them. No thought-transfer,
they are all isolated inside their bodies. Did not think that would
be a problem.

Maybe I could communicate with the others of the away team. Children
time. Sweetness, play. I met them, the one from the ships, more and
more invisible. Memories lock themselves, fade away.

A mother is always OK. But him, this is not my father. Works
opposite, too. I am a stranger for him, from out there. He knows it.
Don't understand. This is why he beats me; he wants me to shrink even
more. Skin and bones, but I am still too much for him, like my brothers
up there. I got three of them, big, blue color. Others here have family
guides, my guardian angel, well there are spacemen, and three of
them...Funny... Older kids protect me also, always an older girl. Maybe
guided by the golden one, far above.

That's it, I have forgotten it all, almost. I have seen some dead
bodies around. Potato sacks squares of whey. I tell them, they are
not dead, that does not exist. They look at me, strange look. I don't
cry when I see dead humans, but I do with animals, always. They are not
responsible; they did not wanted that. But the humans, sure, they are
talking about it all the time, they surely want to die. They are even
proud that our great commander Sananda "died for them"!

Nobody church type in the family. except my sweet grandmother, yes,
very much. She has a paper from the Pope, John 23, in the kitchen, like
a diploma. He said that she is forgiven for all sins, past, present
and future. Signed by him in person! What a piece! Grandfather loves
me, he knows. He says humans are fools, mad. He was at Verdun, the
Great War, and artillery. Ordered to fire on our own troops, in the
back, so they would advance. Germans were doing the same, on the other
side. Grandfather said the bankers, they control that planet. He
protects me, from the father.

They have sent me to the kid church school. The priest recites the
stories. I tell him, no that's not true, it did not happen like that,
to Moses. And Ezechiel, and Enoch. And Je--s. Not true. They got
rid of me, finally. Never seen a bi-le at home, but I know, that
book, something wrong.

There is another one, a girl, same age, in the village. Same class.
My father is the school teacher, the great man. He specially beats her
physically too. She likes me, protects me. Teenagers. Happy times. The
sixties. I meet her, sometimes. She talks differently, she knows too.
Does not believe in death, either. She helps poor children; people
call her the "angel of the village".

Father has stopped to beat me. Too old now. For good measure, has
broken my nose, the last time. I feel more free, stronger; I am
going to date her.

Summer holiday, back from uncle. In the train, suddenly she is there
around me, invisible, so sad. Could not see her, but I know. Father
is the first I see back home. He is there, up on the stairs, large
smile at me. First words "Your girl friend, she is dead, car accident,
two days ago". He is jubilant.

That's it, too gentle, like me. Never could say no, she has boarded
that car, with the other girls. That macho Earthling guy, so much
like my father, he was drunk. They told me, she knew it, bought a
black dress, just before the accident. That macho killed them all. I
told myself, never be like that, like father, like that stupid killer.
Man energy is very bad here. Now she is gone, just sweet sixteen. She
died at the hospital, doctors crying, could not save her, saying that
it's a crime to bury a beautiful being like that. I am alone, again.
Where are the others, those like me?

I am a rebel now, without a cause, like Jimmy Dean. Everything's
wrong at college. Father got crazy, he is punishing my younger
brothers too, not physically. He has found other ways. No gifts for
Christmas, nothing. I steal toys in stores for my brothers. Rock n'
Roll time. We have good French rockers. Rebels. Black jackets. Night
belongs to us. I have dreamed of her, gone not long ago. She said we
will meet again one day, and she will send people to me.

John F. Winston

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Subject: Now Let's Hear It From The Reptilians. Part 2 of 2.
May 10, 2000.

Here the last part of the interview of a Reptilian. In my opinion
they tell a little of the truth.

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Question: Why do you think I don't believe you?

Answer: I have a certain feeling that you don' believe me, despite
the fact that I'm sitting here in front of you. Everything I have
told you in the last two hours is the absolute truth about our world.

Question: How many alien species are active on earth at the moment?

Answer: As far as we know 14 species. 11 from this universe, 2 from
another "bubble" and 1 very advanced from a very different plain.
Don't ask me for names, because nearly all are not pronouncable for
you, eight of them are not pronouncable even for us. Most of the
species - especially the more advanced - are just studying you as
animals and they are not very dangerous for you and for us and we
work together with some of them, but three species are hostile,
including the one which was in contact with some of your governments
and exchanged their technology for copper and other important things
and which had betrayed your kind.
There was and is a "cold war" between two of these hostile races
during the last 73 years and the third species seemed to be the
"winner" in this useless struggle. We expect a more "hot" war
between them and you in the near future (I would say in the next 10
or 20 years) and we are worried about that development.
In the last time, there were some rumours about a new, fifteenth
species which had arrived on Earth just 3 or 4 years ago, but we
don't know anything about their intentions and we were not in contact
with them till now. Maybe the rumours are wrong.
Question: What do the hostile alien races want?

Answer: Various raw materials, including copper for their technology,
your water (or better the hydrogen in your water, which is a source of
energy in advanced fusion processes) and certain chemical elements in
your air. Furthermore, two of the species are also interested in your
body, in your human tissue and blood, because their own genetic
structure is defect through bad evolution and radiation (as far as we
know) and they need intact strings from your kind and from animals to
repair their own genetic again and again, but they are not really able
repair the defects completely because their DNA and your DNA is not
fully compatible (my own species is absolutely incompatible with
them, though they are not very interested in us) and they try to make
more compatible crossbreeds between you and them by use of artificial
fertilizations and artificial wombs. We suppose that the coming war
between the three races or between you and one or all of them will
be fought for raw material, hydrogen, air and DNA.

Question: Is this the reason for the "abductions"?

Answer: Partly, especially when the aliens took egg and sperm samples
from you.
Sometimes the abducters belong to another and more advanced race and
they just want to study your body and your mind (which is more
interesting for some of them than your solid body) as you would study
a primitive animal. As I have said, three alien species are hostile
and this means that they do not care for your fate or for your life
and people who were "abducted" by them came very rarely back alive.
If someone is able to report about an abduction, it means in my
opinion that he or she has not met one of the aggressive species or
that he or she is a very very lucky human to be alive. Advanced and
"friendly" races also took sometimes egg and sperm samples, but for
other reasons.

Question: You've said there are only 14 species active on earth.
But why describe people who saw alien beings so many different and
bizzare types of them?

Answer: I think I have already answered to this question. As I have
said, most of the alien races have much more advanced mind abilities
than you or even me (there is just one alien race completely without
such abilities). They are able to appear in your mind and memory as
whatever they want and this induced "image" have nothing to do with
their real appearance. You remember them as normal humans or grey
dwarfs or even extremely bizarre animals because they want you to
remember that or sometimes they want you to completely forget
anything about a meeting with them.
Another example: you can for example remember that you were just
in a normal of your human hospitals and that some doctors were
examining you and you think not further about what have happened
to you (maybe till you discover that there is no hospital in the
street where you supposed it) but in fact you were examined by them
in one of their laboratories. You can't rely on your mind in this
case. They appear in different shapes to you to confuse you and to
make so-called abduction witnesses who were able to remember the
events - or who believe they are able to remember - ridiculous in
the public and as far as we know, they are successful.
Believe me, there are only 14 alien species on this planet and
only eight of them abduct humans at the moment (again as far as we
know.) In addition, not everyone of your "abductees" is one and some
of the aliens in their reports are really just imagination or lies.

Question: How can we protect us against this influence on our mind?

Answer: I don' know. I doubt you can, because your mind is like
an open book to read and write for nearly every species I know. This
is partly the fault of the "Illojiim" themselves, because they had
constructed or better mis-constructed (partly intentionally) your
mind and your consciousness without real protection mechanisms. If
you are aware that someone tries to manipulate your mind, you can
only concentrate on that suspicion and try to analyze every of
your thoughts and memories. Very important: don't close your eyes
(this would led to a different form of brain waves which are more
easy to access) and don't sit or lay down to rest. If you stay awake
during the first minutes, you can maybe try to filter the other
thoughts and waves in your brain and the inducer will give up after
some minutes if he or she is not successful because it will start to
hurt his or her own brain. This is very difficult and certainly
painful and it can harm you, so better don't try to resist but it
would be the only possibility you have. However, you can try this
only with the more weaker species, not with the strong.

Question: What do you mean with "one species comes from a very
different plain"?

Answer Before I can explain that correctly to you, you must be able
to understand the universe and this would mean a maybe useless
teaching of your mind (including the removal of some barriers) of
many weeks and with teaching I mean not only teaching by words. I
have said this with your word "plain" or "level" because you have
again no better word in your vocabulary and dimension would be in
this case absolutely wrong (it's rather wrong even for another
"bubble") because a dimension can't exist without plains. If you
would be a species living in another or over the plain and if you
would be furthermore able to enter plains without technology so that
your body is not made of that kind of matter you know, then you
would be the mightiest being you can imagine. This very advanced race
I've mentioned had developed outside of here and they've evolved in
fact over billions of years.
They would be able to destroy all of you and us and everything with
just a single thought. We were in contact with them only 3 times in
our whole history, because their interest in your planet is different
from that of all other races. They are definitely no danger for you
or us.

Question: What will happen when the war begins?

Answer: This is difficult to answer. It depends on the enemy race and
on their tactic. "War" is not always that primitive thing you humans
mean with the word, "War" can be fought on various levels. One
possibility they have is the "destruction" of your social system by
influence on political leaders, another is the use of advanced weapon
systems which can cause earthquakes or vulcanic eruptions or other
disasters (including weather disasters) which may seem natural to
you.
The special fields from copper-fusion I've mentioned earlier are
able to have an influence on your global weather. I think they will
not attack the planet directly before the human civilization is weak,
because even you have possibilities to destroy their craft (but not
many.) Let me say, that we are not absolutely sure if there will
be really such a "hot" war already in the next years. I don't want to
talk further about this.

Question: This is the end of the interview. Do you want to say a last
sentence or message?

Answer: Open your eyes and see. Don't believe only in your wrong
history or your scientists or your politicians. Some of them know the
truth about various things, but they don't inform the public to avoid
confusion and panic. I think your species is not as bad as some of my
kind think and it would be a pity to observe your end. That's
everything I can say. Go through your world with open eyes and you
will see - or maybe not. Your kind is ignorant.

Question: Do you think anyone will believe that this interview is
the truth?

Answer: No, but it is an interesting experiment for my social
studies. We will meet again in some months and you will tell me then
what has happened after the publication of my message. Maybe there
is hope for your kind.

END OF FILE

John F. Winston

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I think I forgot to post this one.

Subject: Now Let's Hear It From The Reptilians. May 2, 2000.

I believe in giving equal time for everyone so I will now give some
time to the Reptilians. They get blamed for about everything bad
that happens. In the past I have been told that if you count the
human and then count the more than 35 types of Greys, the Reptilians
Amphibians, Mothmen. Birdmen and some more that sound so funny it
would make you laugh, then we humans are in a minority. It works out
that we have 40% human and 60% others. So we had better watch it. I
won't try to tell you the following information is totally true but
it's probably how the Reptilians think things are. I will warn you
before you read this that this will be rather insulting to you as a
human, so beware, that care. Here we go again.

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Comment from Ch-istian Pfeiler (UFO...@aol.com)
(Translator of this text and editor of "UFO + PSI Research Magazine)

Some weeks ago, I was asked from an online-friend if I can translate
a certain document concerning the truth about UFOs, aliens and our
real history. He said that he had received this fascinating file from
friend from Sweden, whose name is Ole K. (no full name available)
and who claimed that he had made an interview with a non-human
reptilian being. He claimed furthermore that this document contains the
absolute truth about UFOs and aliens (if someone would give me only
100 DM for every "absolute truth about UFOs" I've read in the last
years, I would be a rich man <g>). I knew my online-contact as a
strong believer in UFOs but also as an intelligent young man who
knows many things about physics and sightings, so I was very surprised
when I read the weird document called "Lacerta File I" the first
time and I asked him if he really believe in this
science-fiction-story.

......

Question: What other commands can your kind induce into our minds.
Something like "Serve us" or "Obey"?

Answer: This is again a strange question. We are not your enemy (most
of us not) so why should we do this? To answer your question: it
depends on the strength of the human mind and on the the strength of
the sending reptilian. There is no "Serve us" or "Serve me" switch in
your mind, so such a command is much more difficult to induce. If
human mind and consciousness is weak and the reptilian inducer
experienced in these things and was some hours in the sun before he
or she tries to do it, then it could probably work for a certain time.
There are secret teachings about such things, but I've never learned
anything about it. I use my primary abilities for mimicry and for
communication with my own kind and sometimes for other private
things, I've never used it to harm humans or their mind. I would
appreciate it if we can end with this topic here.

Question: A last question: you've said earlier, that you can hide
your UFOs? Do you use the same abilities to do this?

Answer: Yes, but on a technical base. There is a powerful device
inside each craft which is able to send an artificial signal to your
minds to convince you, that you see either nothing but only the sky
or that you see normal aircraft like planes instead of our ships.
This isn't used very often, because we avoid human public when we
move in the atmosphere. If you are able to see our "UFOs" it means
that the device is either defective or deactivated for some reason.
The camouflage effect didn't work on photos - to answer this
possible question of you already in advance - but why should someone
make a photo of the sky when he could not see anything unusual
there. By the way, most of the surface-near entry points to our
tunnels are also hidden with such a device and your kind will
generally see only normal cave walls instead of the door. That's one
reason why I've said that I doubt that you will be able to find such
a secret door to our world (but it has happened a few times in the
past.)

Question: Back to your and our own history. You've mentioned the race
of the "Illojiim" who have created our human race. From where did
they come and how did they look like? What had exactly happened
when they arrived? Are they our "G-d"?

Answer: The "Illojiim" came from this universe, from the solar
system you call "Aldebaran" in your maps. They were a very tall
humanoid species with usually blonde hair and a very white skin
(they avoided the sunlight, because it hurt their skin and their
eyes. This was absolutely unbelievable for a sun-loving species like
us). They seemed to be intelligent and peaceful at the beginning and
we started a more or less friendly communication with them, but
later they showed their real intentions and plans: they wanted to
evolve the apes to a new breed and we were a disturbing factor for
them on their new zoo planet. At first, they caught around 10,000
or maybe even 20,000 of your simian ancestors and they left the
planet for some hundred years.
When they returned, they brought your (now more human) ancestors
back.
Then they left Earth again for some thousands of years and the
primitive pre-humans lived together with us without major problems
(they were just afraid of our aircraft and technology). The "Illojiim"
had thought their mind and enhanced their brain and their body
structure and they were now able to use tools and fire. The "Illojiim"
returned within 23,000 years seven times and accelerated the evolution
speed of certain of your kind. You must understand, that you are
not the first human civilization on the planet. The first advanced
humans (who lived at the same time with less-developed pre-humans,
because the "Illojiim" had experimented with different speeds and
stages of evolution) with technology and speech existed around 700,000
years ago on this planet (your scientists have not understood this,
because they've found only the bones of the pre-humans and some
primitive cave drawings showing advanced humans and flying devices.)
This genetically advanced human breed lived together with us, but
they avoided contact with my kind, because the "Illojiim" teachers
had warned them with the misleading purpose that we are evil beings
and that we lie to them.
Well, after some centuries the aliens decided to extinct their first
creation and they accelerated the evolution of a second and better
test series and so on and so on. The truth is, that your modern human
civilization is not the first on this planet Earth but already the
seventh. The buildings of the first breeds are lost, but the fifth
civilization was the one, which built the large triangular
constructions you call "Egyptian Pyramids" today around 75,000 years
ago (your Egyptians just found that large ancient pyramids in the
sand and tried not very successfully to built similar constructions)
and the sixth civilization was the one, which built the cities which
ruins you can find today beneath the sea in the so-called Bimini
Area around 16,000 years ago. The last creation of the seventh breed
- of your series - was done just 8,500 years ago and this is the
only creation you can remember and to which your religious writings
refer. You rely on archeological and paleonthological artefacts
which show you a wrong (JW It may should read long.) and short past,
but how should you know anything about the six civilizations before.
And if you find evidence for their existence, you deny and
misinterpret the facts. This is partly a programming of your mind
and partly pure ignorance. I will tell you in the following only
about your creations, because the six previous mankinds are lost
and therefore they should not concern you.
There was a long war between us and the "Illojiim" and also
between certain groups of the "Illojiim" themselves, because many of
them were of the opinion that the again-and-again creation of human
species on this planet makes no real sense. The last battles in
this war were fought around 5,000 years ago in orbit and surface.
The aliens used powerful sonic weapons to destroy our underground
cities but on the other hand we were able to destroy many of their
surface installations and bases in space. The humans of your series
were very frightened when they observed our battles and they wrote
it down in the form of religious myths (their mind was not able to
understand what was really going on.)
The "Illojiim" - who appeared as "-ods" for the sixth and seventh
breed told them that it is a war between good and evil and that they
are the good and we are the evil race. This depends certainly on
the point of view. It was our planet before they arrived and before
they started their evolution project with your kind. In my opinion,
it was our right to fight for our planet. It was exactly 4,943 years
ago - according to your time scale - that the Elohim left the planet
again for unknown reasons (this is a very important date for us,
because Many of our historians called it a victory.) Fact is, that
we don't know what had really happened. The "Illojiim" were gone from
one day to another, they vanished without a trace together with their
ships and we found most of their surface installations destroyed by
them.
The humans were on their own and your civilization developed. Many
of us were in contact with certain (more southern) tribes of your
species in the coming centuries and we were able to convince some of
them that we are not the "Evil" the aliens wanted them to believe.
During the time from 4,900 years ago to today, many other alien
species arrived on the planet (some of them used the old teaching and
programming of your nind and "played" again -od for you) but the
"Illojiim" themselves never came back. They had left the planet for
a duration of some thousand years also earlier, so we expect their
return one day in the future to end their project or to maybe extinct
also the seventh breed, but we don't really know what have happened
to them (to answer this question for you in advance).
Your current civilization doesn't know anything about your real
origin, about your real past, about your real world and universe and
you know very little about us and our past. And you know nothing
about the things to come in near future. As long as you will not
understand and believe my words - I tell you the truth because we
are not your enemy - as long as there is danger for your species.
Your enemies are already here and you have not understood. Open your
eyes or you will be in big trouble soon. If you haven't believed
anything of the things I've told you before, then you should really
believe and remember this.

Source of information:

http://members.aol.com/PeteWo3493/lacert.htm

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Thirty seconds in the future, "John F. Winston" uttered the fateful words:

> Question: How can we protect us against this influence on our mind?
>
> Answer: I don' know. I doubt you can, because your mind is like
> an open book to read and write for nearly every species I know. This
> is partly the fault of the "Illojiim" themselves, because they had
> constructed or better mis-constructed (partly intentionally) your
> mind and your consciousness without real protection mechanisms.

It figures -- humans are the cosmic equivalent of Windows 98.

And the Xists are the FINAL PATCH.

--
schabe "fdisk /dev/earth" @walkingdead.net
http://walkingdead.net

John F. Winston

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Subject: Scratch The Sun Cruisers. May 11, 2000.

In the past I have mentioned two really big Sun Cruisers that
were close to our Sun. I told Jack about it and here is what he
did. This is a letter that Jack wrote to another person and
mysteriously it was also sent to me.

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From: Jack

Subject: ETs no longer have designs on earth?
Dear Ja-a: This is an excerpt of a long letter from John Winston, dated
May 4th. I sensed some validity to this report and asked permission to
destroy these plasma carriers, which I apparently did, by slicing them
into pieces and injecting them into the sun near the North Pole. I know
I concentrated on destroying one, but I was told that during sleep I
sliced up the second. When tuning in on this later, I sensed extreme
rage and frustration, indicating some ETs were extremely upset over my
action.


Those anomalous objects, (termed Sun cruisers) and there are now at
least two, are in fact PLASMA carriers, of gigantic proportions, said
to be in excess of three thousand miles across!
These carriers will initiate an artificial disturbance within the
sun, causing the sun to eject two massive CME's. (Coronal mass
ejections) The trajectory of these CME's will be directed at earth,
at which time all satellites will be placed out of commission, as will
the entire power grids.
It is at this point, we too will enter into the war with the
Draconians.

Question 1: is there anything to this? and did I destroy these
3,000-mile across plasma carriers? And were they a threat to humanity?
You confirmed that I recently incinerated a Draco cruiser and a Gray
ship in its shadow, which I understand reduced their interest in
establishing a base on earth for further expansion. Also I incinerated
an empty transport ship as a demonstration of what could be done to a
manned cruiser if it endangered humanity. Your guides said it wasn't
the same group but they, too had designs on the earth.

Question 2: In view of the decided effect this has had in discouraging
two ET races from interference with our ascension, could these actions
be deemed "Justified"? Or did I go too far?
Then within the last few days, I have been working with the Grays in
giving them the spark of Divine Awareness to allow them to see the role
they were supposed to play in the Divine Plan, followed by the gift of
Unconditional Love. As a result, I believe the UL gift has given them
the Divine energy that has provided them souls and they are on
their way to ascension with us. S and I tried to cover all Grays in
all dimensions in our work. At one time S said she could sense a
feeling of deep sorrow and a realization that the agendas their race had
been pursuing for aeons were all misguided.
Question 3: What effect has these activities of ours had in discouraging
ETs from interfering with our ascension? And are the Grays a different
race now and not interested in producing gray-human hybrids?
I was visited by an ET group in their "thought form" bodies, not astral,
from what I believe to be the Dark and Light Universe (DAL), who wanted
to take the gift of Divine Awareness and Unconditional Love back to
their reality. I understood that this group represented more than 20
billion of their race.
Question 4: Was this effective, where did they come from, and was this
number correct?
I understand Ra-di has been canned, and by a unanimous decision the
directors decided to award me the full amount promised.

Question 5: True? or wishful thinking?
Here's a Biggie: I have been told that my UFO-1 space house will be on
display at the Experimental Aircraft Association annual convention in
Oshkosh the latter part of July. I was worrying about having to
re-learn radio communication in order to be vectored into a landing
area, and got a gentle tap on the side if my head, followed by the
message that they would take care of all of that, and I was going to be
just a passenger.

Question 6: How much truth is there to this?
By the way, I just realized that Freckles has telepathic communication
abilities, and she carried on a long two-way conversation with my friend
R-th in Hawaii a couple of nights ago when she called. And Freckles
always tells the truth.
More $$ in the mail, and thanks for your and your guides' efforts.
I'll bet your other clients don't have such interesting questions for
your guides to answer.
Love and Light,
Jack O'B

JW I have already thanked Jack personally but I would like to thank
also you people who help me out with certain problem areas by using
your positive thoughts.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com

John F. Winston

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Subject: News From A Person In The Ashtar Command. Part 2 of 2.
May 12, 2000.

This is the last part of the gentleman who claims to be in the
Ashtar Command.

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Our black jacket band has heard of these, plenty of strange objects
around, that the steelworkers see coming back home early morning. Sky
always red, night and day, iron dust, the French Pittsburgh, but the
workers say "flying saucers". They have seen also a big cigar in the
sky near the border from Luxemburg.
It has happened. The guys from our band have called me "Come on,
tonight, it will come at eleven, every night". Red sky night, Vulcan
fires exploding over giant steel factories. Iron smell. But it is dark
where we are, a few hundred yards from the Belgium border. One of the
guys is crazy about UFOs, has build radio receivers. He has leukemia,
but is full of hope to the new. He says, you are going to hear the
sound first, big slow nice buzzing, and it will be right there, over
the forest, just over the border, sharp at eleven. Now it's all around
like a million of bees, and suddenly it's there, up in the air, a big
orange glowing object, beautiful, awesome.
See my own photos of this Starship (and video) at :
www.channeling.net/LyurAC
Mouth wide open, we feel a tremendous energy from it, the Earth
seems to reverberate, they have all the iron mines under, tunnels that
makes a huge echo instrument for the object to play with. All TVs shot
down in the neighborhood. The object suddenly disappear, and reappear
a few hundreds yards to the left. Mighty power, out of this world. This
is a big shock. Big shot. Well done, guys. Every night the ship will
come, staying for more than one hour, close to the house of my
parents. They would never to come to see it, of course.
After one week of that treatment, they got it right. I rush straight
into the bookstore and pick-up a sci-fi book. Title: "My name is All"
I have moved to Paris, on my own now, free, finally. Everything is
speeding up, I have connected with spiritual and psychic group's
precursors of the N-w Age. I meet hundreds of people in the crazy
city. I am already writing in UFO newsletters and mags, telling the
story, and writing theories about UFO routes, magnetic lines with
invisible beacons. The other UFO researchers still believe that the
ships follow fault lines to get "fuel". Stupid humans.
Back in Lorraine for the summer. This is a new house now, in the
country. Almost every night, they would come; I have a UFO detector,
buzzing all the time. Grandfather is there, watching with my brothers
and me. The parents are not interested. We see projectors from the
sky, no noise, big flashes.
Luminous objects on the hill, staying all night sending like signals.
Grandfather say, it is like Morse signals, but different. He
understands what that might be. With my brothers we discover some
burned traces on the ground.
This is the eighties now. Much experiences, many psychic ones, many
awakenings, many sightings of spaceships. They seems to follow me
whenever I go. A story has broken wild. A young guy has been seen
boarding a flying saucer near Paris, is gone. All Europe is waiting
his return for one week, all TV channels and radios on the scoop. One
week later the guy reappear in the same field, in a ball of Light.
The best known French UFO writer, Jimmy Guieu, takes the story. A
book is published, is in all stores. They have performed hypnosis;
there is channeling and everything. They say they are from Orion,
they will land if people are ready, on august 15, 1980, a 'marial'
date (apparitions of Mary). I start to have thought-transfer
flooding my mind. I write to Jimmy that they would come but stay
invisible, and will not land, forget it.
On the day I am on the field. There are hundreds of cars from all
over Europe and thousand of people, waiting the flying saucers to
land, right here near Paris. They do nothing, just wait cameras
ready. I have bought infrared film for my camera, remember they
say they would be invisible. I don't care about the Orion story,
seems too corny, but I know that my friends will come, this is a
good test for Western Europe, not to be missed.
'My' ship will be there. During the night I would take these
infrared pictures, on tripod, while I could see nothing with the eyes.
Somehow they would operate a synch operation with my finger on the
trigger, I do not know. but a few days later, after processing, the
ship will be there on the photos. I have been guided to go near the
only group trying to do something, some kind of yoga, and the ship,
still invisible, for me included, would come closer to the ground,
above that group. At the end of the night the Starship will finally
go, but just before, I would get a very strong thought transfer.
"Humans are not ready yet for mass landings, they do not know how to
get the correct frequency to be in tune with us. Now you go public
and you teach them. Now we will be in touch with you all the time."
Back home, I would fall in a kind of comatic sleep for 3 days and
3 nights, with strong sensations on the back of my neck. They would
do something in my brain; I would awake suddenly sometimes because
of a strong voice in my head, telling me something, and then falling
back straight on the bed. I am 33 years old; they have prepared me
for 14 years.
I would bring the series of pictures to infrared experts from the
European space missions. At the end of examination, they would tell
me, we haven't seen you, that thing does not exist, but off the
record, it is an object of 150 feet diameter.
Because of the photos, Jimmy would put the story and address on
national magazines, and within a few days, I would be very public. At
once my phone would be taped. I knew it because I was leader in a
trade union, and the comrades at the Phone Company would tell me.
But they could do nothing to remove the system. In the bunch of
letters, one woman is telling me to go to see her, Danielle Leclerc
(Amassia). The first thing I could only notice when entering her home
is the original painting of Awaana. See picture of Awaana and other
members of the Ashtar Command in my page Pictures at:
www.channeling.net/LyurAC
She is my Captain, as nice as Captain Janeway, and very beautiful.
Amassia has represented the energy pouring out of the members of the
Command, sometimes in a very graphic way. So Awaana has normal
shining golden hair.
She is in command of the Starship "Light", dedicated to beam Christed
energies on Earth and to awaken the Starfleet personnel on the ground.
That color golden represent that energy, the plan of Sananda was often
called "Golden Light Program" by contactees in our European countries.
"That's her, that's my captain". "I know, the painting is yours" For
two years, Amassia would be my instructor, to finish my preparation
for the mission. Through many adventures, she would always point out
that her strongest wish was that the pictures of the Command would go
to be known largely in the USA. I would not be with her for too long,
because she too, would transit soon, at the age of 42. Finally, today
I carry out her wish.

To be continued.....

Note from Cdr. Lyur: I would like to point out something that my
instructor Amassia taught me. In order to be fully operational,
credible to your own eyes and the eyes of others, to be sure that you
are not running on your imagination, or mental body alone, you have
to have positive personal proofs for you and to show to people. Saying
your are a Space commander or channel or whatever is not good enough.
That is NOT a proof that you really are. So Danielle/Amassia, for
herself, was always asking from "The Brothers" positive proofs,
concrete signs. She will request that very strongly - I have seen her!
- before every new step in the mission. I have done the very same,
and, like her, I would never take the next step until I have the sign
or the proof, the OK from above, very concrete things like sightings
with other witnesses, photos, videos, or tangible events. That way I
am sure I am on the correct path, and in true connection with the
Ashtar Command.
Unfortunately, many Ne- Agers, channels, and even "Ashtar leaders"
don't do that. This is very unfortunate, and I feel the very reason
why this is quite messy and foggy in that milieu today, with bad
reputation in the USA about the Ashtar Command. (except for Native
American channels or contactees, always in the safety of traditional
ceremonies and guardians) I have spoken. Captn' out.

Cdr.Lyur/Jean Michel is a French Journalist/Reporter/Writer and
Speaker in International UFO Congresses all over the world. Now in
the USA he will speak at Star Knowledge Conference in Atlanta in
July 2000. He is available in the US for lectures/workshops. Please
contact him at :
cptn...@hotmail.com Visit his website at : www.channeling.net/LyurAC
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John F. Winston

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Subject: Who Were You In A Previous Life? May 14, 2000.

Actually a person wanted to know who I thought I was in a previous
life. I figure that if I can tell everyone how I found this out then
all of you can find out who you were in previous lives because it
is my opinion that nearly everyone has lived before unless you are
some sort of savage just getting started being a human. I have
information on more than 14 of my past lives.

When I first was studying about past lives I started just thinking
about it and a certain word came into my mind and that was Huguenot. I
thought it meant a certain thing but when I talked with another
person I was shown that my definition was wrong. A Huguenot is
actually a Protestant of France during the religious dissensions of the
16th and 17th centuries.
So I was told that I was a Huguenot and a lot of them got killed for
believing what they did. So that is the first way that you can find
out your past live and that is to just sit down and concentrate on
the question, "What did I do in a past life"? Now here is some
technical information about reinc-nation which I prefer to called the
Wheel Of Rebirth.

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From: J L
Subject: Jeff Rense Weekly E-News 5-7-00
* GUEST CORNER *
"Principle of Rhythm and Reinc-rnation"
by Paul Von Ward
People around the globe report personal memories that seem to
derive from a specific person who lived before. In many cases the
facts of the other life are verified by independent researchers.
Some are reported by children too young, or otherwise unlikely,
to have the facts from a contemporary source.(1) Others come from
therapy(2) or hypnotic regression sessions. Can such ad hoc
stories be taken as validation of the theory of reincarnation?
Reinca-nation has been part of human cosmology prior to the
poorly understood transition from prehistory to history between
6,000 and 10,000 BP.(3) In reported history, it appeared in the
earliest versions of the Hindu Vedas. The post-Neolithic Middle
Eastern societies, including Persia, Mesopotamia, Egypt, and
Greece, held it to be a truth. With institutionalization of
Supernaturalism (belief in a separate divine realm), the orthodox
texts of Judaism, Islam and Chr-stianity now only contain
allusions to the idea. The Early Chri-tian belief in
re-ncarnation was excised from the 4th century B-ble approved by
the Nicene Council. However, Gnostic, Kabbalist, theosophical and
new thought traditions, as well as one out of four Americans,
still believe in some sort of reincarn-tion.
[This subject matter relates to the Principle of Rhythm, one of
seven Hermetic Principles.(4) They comprise a basis for
scientific study allegedly given to humans by an advanced being
(AB) more than 5,000 BP. He is known by various names, including
Thoth or Seth in Egypt, Manu in India, Hermes in Greece, and the
Serpent of the Adam and Eve story in Gen-sis. They account for
aspects of the universe's complexity not explained by the four
laws of modern physics.]

The Principle of Rhythm

That principle governs cycles at all levels of the universe,
asserting that all things survive, but undergo rhythmic phase
shifts. One example is that energy cannot be destroyed, only
converted from one form or the other. Recognized in Einstein's
formula E=mc2, the principle manifests continual reciprocation
from one form to the other. A wave changes to a particle, the
particle back to a wave. Night changes into day and back again.
Black holes eat visible matter; visible matter comes from black
holes. "Virtual reality" is where ordinary matter lives in the
factional second when it is not visible in this realm.
Plant life forms lie dormant in seeds or roots (composed of
bions, the smallest repositories of organic life that can survive
almost any conditions) during Winter and burst forth in all their
glory in Spring. In the Summer and Fall they pass through several
different epicycles of their annual cycle. All animals do the
same, arising from seeds (sperm and egg) that are themselves
composed of cells that have their own cycles, with components of
particles that flash in and out of existence. All according to
the Principle of Rhythm. Does a human personality live by the
same principle?

Multidimensionality

The above examples come from the physical, five-sense realm. But
more and more people from all walks of life, artists and
business people as well as scientists, now accept some model of a
multidimensional universe. In my SOLARIAN LEGACY, I subsumed
various dimensions into a three-faceted model.(5) The model
posits, in addition to the physical realm, a universal field of
subtle energy and one of consciousness.
If consciousness is as indestructible as the energy of E=mc2 - it
appears from current research to be predominant among matter and
energy-then it seems that it would always exist, changing form
according to some as yet unknown cycle. In other words,
consciousness would have its winters as well as its summers. It
would have states corresponding to organic life and death.
To consider what this means for r-incarnation requires that we
accept the evidence that physical life is animated by
consciousness and a subtle energy or life force. We must also
accept that when physical death occurs the resident
consciousness/life force is not extinguished, but goes elsewhere.
For evidence one can read any number of books on near-death- and
after-life-experiences, or be closely involved with one making
the transition.
We know when an atom disappears, the subatomic particles of which
it is comprised convert into an energetic wave form. Does
consciousness incarnate undergo a similar transformation? Those
of us who believe that electro-chemical actions of living cells
create consciousness in the first place assume that it just
dissipates when cell activity ceases. But we do not believe that
the cessation of an animal or plant's cell function results in a
reduction in the energy total of the universe. (Remember physics'
Law of Conservation of Energy, formulated by M.V. Lomonosov in
1748.) So why would one assume the disappearance of consciousness
from a dead body means a loss of some percentage of the
consciousness in the universe?

Rei-carnation

If a local consciousness lives on in the field of universal
consciousness, as the physical cell's energy is reabsorbed into
the plenum of space, what happens? Does it lose its character,
like bits of clay added back into the potter's mix? Is its
individual collection of memories lost, reincorporated into the
general consciousness in some holographic manner? Do some or all
personalities remain intact after death and reinc-rnate? We do
not yet have the evidence to assert answers to these questions.
(Buddhism's belief in reabsorption of bits of personalities into
new beings and rebirth of only certain of an individual's
attributes for karmic reasons takes a two-sides-of-the-road
position.)
Application of a classical physics model of the universe to a
dimension of consciousness would suggest that in death all
individuality of conscious experience, and memory of it, would
revert to the undifferentiated consciousness from which it came.
That would mean that at the end each life contributes its unique
perspective into the whole and gives up its separateness. But
what about the evidence for individual personalities having lived
in another lifetime?
For that to be true, some mechanism must permit the holding
together of conscious memories during the "virtual reality" phase
when, like the subatomic particle that momentarily flashes out of
physical existence, a local manifestation of consciousness
(personality) temporarily flashes out of this realm. What level
of force is required to keep an individual's memory pool
concentrated and coherent during the "out phase" so that it
doesn't simply merge with all consciousness? Do only certain
personalities (conscious memories) hold together and re-ncarnate?
If so, how are they different from others?
Some believe past-life cases can be explained by genetic
memories, but that is not consistent with the evidence. Given
that chromosomes merge from the blood lines of both parents and
that well documented cases involve nonsequential gene pools, no
viable chain of genetic transmission can be established for
singular, integrated personality survival.
Two possibilities for person-to-person reinca-nation appear
plausible from the Hermetic perspective. One, certain
personalities have such a strong focus of conscious intent
(morphic field) that their memory fields can survive the state
shift of physical death and still have enough cohesion to inform
a new being. Two, the trauma of transition is so strong for some
that the emotional field (subtle energy body) survives and bonds
with that of a new person.
These two approaches appear compatible with the idea that highly
charged conscious intent is necessary for the development of
archetypes and morphic fields that survive on their own. If this
is true, then reincarnation is selective, typically involving
people on a path of conscious development. We need much more
confirmable research to reveal the nuances of this aspect of
human experience.
----------------------------------------------------
1. Stevenson, Ian. Twenty Cases Suggestive of Reincarnation
(University Press of Virginia, Charlottesville, 1999--2nd
Edition, 5th Printing)
2. Woolger, Roger J. Other Lives, Other Selves (Bantam Books,
New York, 1988)
3. The reincarnation of individual personalities may have been a
natural assumption of Early Humans. Naturalist peoples who have
survived modernization (in Australia, Japan, Africa and the
Americas) include some degree of belief in the concept. Given
that such extraordinary ideas are not likely fabricated out of
thin air, Early Humans must have had some experiences on which to
base their beliefs. It is logical to assume that those
experiences were similar to those recorded and published by 20th
century humans.
4. Three Initiates. The Kybalion: A Study of the Hermetic
Philosophy of Ancient Egypt and Greece (The Yogi Publication
Society: Chicago, 1912)
5. Von Ward, Paul. Solarian Legacy: Metascience & A New
Renaissance. (Inner Eye Books, Livermore, CA, 1998)
--------------------------------------------------
(Paul Von Ward is a cosmologist emphasizing the fields of
prehistory, frontier science, and consciousness studies. Visit
his web site www.vonward.com for samples from his work on The
Emerging New Human Story. His book SOLARIAN LEGACY: Metascience
and a New Renaissance is available in bookstores or on
www.Amazon.com. A discount is offered on line at
www.Medicinebear.com.)
Paul Von Ward Web Site
http://www.vonward.com
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John Winston. john...@mlode.com

John F. Winston

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Subject: Latest From Jack About The Sun Cruisers. May 15, 2000.

Here is news from Jack about him taking care of those Sun Cruisers
that were near the Sun.

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From: Jack
Subject: Sun Cruisers, etc
Dear John:
Here is J-ya (Al-rah) An-rews' answer to the destruction of these
cruisers and other subjects listed in my recent letter to her.
Jack

....

Hi Jack;
Now, you wanted to know who it was that disintegrated the ship
behind the moon. One group of Beings I work with I refer to as the
Golden One's. That is because, logically, I see them as being golden
in color. They are Keepers of the Divine Plan. Whenever, either by
our exercising an excessive amount of free will in the wrong
direction, or some other race of beings tries to interfere with the
Divine Plan, they will step in and take whatever measures are needed.
They prefer not to destroy lifeforms, this is why they removed the
occupants and sent them back to their home planet before disintegrating
the ship. They value all lifeforms...but sometimes a race of beings
gets too far off their path, then they take measures to guide them
back onto the path, or as last resort, return them to Source. That is
rarely necessary...usually just returning them to their home planet,
or "showing" them something to give them enlightenment is sufficient.
Re: the info you rec'd from John Winston. You did destroy the sun
cruisers....they had not set out to deliberately "create a disturbance
in our sun"...but this might have happened simply by getting too
close to the sun. The sun is in a relatively "unbalanced" state right
now due to the many energy changes, and is more succeptable to "upset"
if these large cruisers...whose main job is to monitor the sun's
activity....gets too close. These ships run on plasma. No, if the
CME had occurred, this would not have set off a "war with the
Draconians".
Re: grays and Divine Awareness, UL. Yes the negative grays are now
willing to accept UL, and realize (most of them at least) that they
have been misguided. They are not a "different race" now, but no
longer wish to experiment on human/gray hybrids.
Re: DAL beings. Yes, they were asking to be given Divine Awareness
and UL to take back to their reality. They are from a galaxy in the
15th dimension. Their planet is similar in size to earth, and the
number of beings is approximately 20 billion. You were reasonably
effective.
Re: UFO-1 space house: This is a definite possibility. You will
be "piloted" by Others, however. This happening will be determined
by whether the one's putting on the show are open-minded enough to
allow something in which is called "UFO".
I hope this answers your questions. I did them all in "one fell
swoop" this time!! Well, if you're on a roll, go for it. My son and
his friend are out here this weekend, up at the Wesak festival at
Mt. Shasta. They called this morning and said that during the big
meditation last night the Ashtar Command ship (I confirmed this for
them) appeared aver the mountain in a beautiful cloud formation and
stayed for a couple of hours after the meditation ended. They got
PICTURES!! Can't wait to see those.
Love and Light
Alar-h

John Winston. john...@mlode.com

John F. Winston

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May 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/17/00
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Subject: A Little Levity Goes A Long Way. May 16, 2000.

Here is something that was told to me a few days ago.

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From: S S
Subject: Jokes
A store clerk was getting ready to close the store. As he was
putting the key into the door to lock it an old woman walked through,
asking the clerk for half a head of lettuce.
The clerk said, "I'll have to go check with the manager, since we
have already closed."
The clerk went to the manager, and said, "I was just getting ready
to lock the door, when in walked this dimwit, asking me to sell her
half a head of lettuce." He did not realize that the old woman had
followed him and heard everything. He then quickly added, "And then,
this sweet, kind old lady came in after her and also asked for half
a head of lettuce. Let's sell her the other half."
After they took care of her, the manager called the clerk into his
office. He told the clerk, "I was impressed with the way you
handled the situation with that old lady. We are always looking for
good asst. managers, and I'd like to interview you for that position."
"Sure," said the clerk.
The manager continued, "Now, tell me again where you are from?"
"Lancaster, Pennsylvania," said the clerk, "where we have the greatest
hockey teams in the world and the ugliest women."
The manager leaned forward and said, "My wife is from Lancaster,
Penn."
"Oh really?" replied the clerk. "What hockey team did she play for?"

...........

A boy was getting ready to go out on a date, and stopped by a candy
store. He asked the owner for a $5 box of candy, a $10 box of candy,
and a $15 box of candy.
The owner was curious about why he would buy these different priced
boxes of candy and asked the boy why he was choosing these three
boxes.
"I'm taking a girl out on a date tonight," said the boy. "When I
take her back home, if she shakes my hand, I'll give her the $5 box
of candy. If she gives me a hug, I'll give her the $10 box of candy.
If she plants a kiss on my face, then I'll give her the $15 box of
candy."
The store owner then rang him up for his candy, and he went on his
way.
The young man went to pick up his date that evening. The family
invited him in to get acquainted before they left. As the two were
leaving, the father of the girl asked the boy if he would lead them
in a prayer.
The boy said, "Why, I'd be glad to." He then proceeded to lead a
very eloquent, spirit-ual prayer.
After he said "Amen," his date leaned over and whispered to him,
"I didn't know you were so spiritually-minded."
He responded, "I didn't know your father owned a candy store."

John Winston. john...@mlode.com

John F. Winston

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May 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM5/19/00
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Subject: Sagan, The Bomb And The Moon. May 19, 2000.

Two nights ago, Mike Siegel, the host of the Art Bell show, talked
about the following information. Don't be surprised if this came
from a tabloid magazine. They were also talking about Burrow's Cave,
a subjcct that I have reported on in the past.

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From: S W
Subject: US planned one big nuclear blast for mankind
Antony Barnett, Public Affairs Editor
Sunday May 14, 2000

The Observer

http://www.observer.co.uk/Print/0,3858,4017966,00.html
The US Air Force developed a top-secret plan to detonate a nuclear
bomb on the moon as a display of military might at the height of the
Cold War.

In an exclusive interview with The Observer, Dr Leonard Reiffel, 73,
the physicist who fronted the project in the late Fifties at the US
military-backed Armour Research Foundation, revealed America's
extraordinary lunar plan.

'It was clear the main aim of the proposed detonation was a PR
exercise and a show of one-upmanship. The Air Force wanted a mushroom
cloud so large it would be visible on earth,' he said yesterday. 'The
US was lagging behind in the space race.'

'The explosion would obviously be best on the dark side of the moon
and the theory was that if the bomb exploded on the edge of the moon,
the mushroom cloud would be illuminated by the sun.' The bomb would
have been at least as large as the one used on Hiroshima at the end
of World War II.

'I made it clear at the time there would be a huge cost to science of
destroying a pristine lunar environment, but the US Air Force were
mainly concerned about how the nuclear explosion would play on earth,'
said Reiffel.

Although he believes the blast would have had little environmental
impact on Earth, its crater may have ruined the face of the 'man in
the moon'. Reiffel would not reveal how the explosion would have
taken place. But he confirmed it was 'certainly technically feasible'
and that at the time an intercontinental ballistic nuclear missile
would have been capable of hitting a target on the moon with an
accuracy of within two miles.

Reiffel was approached by senior US Air Force officers in 1958,
who asked him to 'fast-track' a project to investigate the visibility
and effects of a nuclear explosion on the moon. The top-secret Project
A119, was entitled 'A Study of Lunar Research Flights'.

'Had the project been made public there would have been an outcry,'
said Reiffel.

Many Cold War documents are still classified in the US, but details
of Project A119 emerged after a biography of celebrated US scientist
and astronomer Carl Sagan was published there last year.

Sagan, who died in 1996, was famous for popularising science in the
US and pioneering the study of potential life on other planets. At
the Armour Foundation in Chicago - now called the Illinois Institute
of Technology Research - he was hired by Reiffel to undertake
mathematical modelling on the expansion of an exploding dust cloud in
the space around the moon. This was key to calculating the visibility
of such a cloud from the Earth. At the time scientists still believed
there might be microbial life on the moon and Sagan had suggested a
nuclear explosion might be used to detect organisms.

Despite the highly classified nature of the work, Sagan's biographer,
Keay Davidson, discovered that he had disclosed details of it when he
applied for he prestigious Miller Institute graduate fellowship to
Berkeley.

Yet, until today, the full nature of Project A119 has never been
revealed. Friends of Sagan believe he never would have wilfully
revealed classified information, but Reiffel has come forward to put
the 'historical record straight'.

Reiffel continued: 'It was well known that the existence of this
project was top secret. Had Sagan wanted to make any disclosures to
any party, as his boss at the time, I would have had to take forward
any such request and Air Force permission would have been extremely
unlikely in those very tense times.'

In a letter to the science magazine Nature, Reiffel said:
'Fortunately for the future of lunar science, a one or two horse
race to detonate a nuclear explosion never occurred. But in my
opinion Sagan breached security in March, 1959.'

Reiffel produced eight reports between May 1958 and January 1959
on the feasibility of the plan, all of which were destroyed in 1987
by the foundation. Reiffel would not discuss details of these
reports, believing they were still classified, but it was clear the
conclusion was that the explosion would have been visible from
Earth.

He does not know why the plans were scrapped, but said:
'Thankfully, the thinking changed. I am horrified that such a gesture
to sway public opinion was ever considered.'

Dr David Lowry, a British nuclear historian, said: 'It is obscene.
To think that the first contact human beings would have had with
another world would have been to explode a nuclear bomb. Had they
gone ahead, we would never have had the romantic image of Neil
Armstrong taking "one giant step for mankind".'

Lowry believes Project A119 has relevance today with the US
proposing a missile defence system in space. He said: 'The US has
always wanted to militarise space and some of the fanciful ideas
currently being put forward will seem as incredible as the idea of
nuking the moon in the Fifties seems today.'

A Pentagon spokesman would not confirm or deny the plans.
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Subject: How Long Have Men And Women Been On Earth? May 21, 2000.

In the past I have attempted to prove that the age of the Earth is
approximately 4,7 billion years. This is a fact that is stated
by some space people and this also agrees with the opinion of many
of the conventional scientists on Earth. I have attempted to prove
that the Calavaras Skull is about 11.1 million years old. This
skull is of a human and I just found out this last week by reading
an old book in the museum, where I do volunteer work, that this skull
was found in a deep mine near Altaville, Calif. which is north of
Sonora in a county called Calavaras. In the Spanish language
Calavaras means "Place Of The Skull", just like Calvary means "Place
Of The Skull" or "Where Skulls Are Found." I have not proven where
the Calavaras Skull is at the present time but I feel that it is in
one of the world famous museums such as the Harvard Museum, The
Smithonian or one of the museums in Europe. During the time of the
gold rush many scientist came to examine things that were unearthed
by the movement of great amounts of gold from the Mother Lode where
I now live. These artifacts were removed and placed in the different
museums throughout the world. It's pretty hard to find them now
because they have been dated as being about 11.1 million years old
and conventional scientist don't believe men and women have been on
Earth that long.

Here is some more information that will push the date of men and
women being on Earth back even further back in time time.

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From: M S
Subject: Hidden secrets of Australia
Article:
"EMBARRASSING THE SCIENTISTS"

From "Pix/People" (Australia)
Jeff Carter's "Wild Country"
Published at Jones Street
Broadway, Sydney
New South Wales 2007
Australia

"FOSSIL FOOTPRINTS, 350 MILLION YEARS OLD, COULD PROVE AUSTRALIA
TO BE EARTH'S OLDEST CONTINENT"

THE WORLD has long recognized Australia as one of earth's oldest
continents. At least, as one of the continents that has been
sticking out of the sea the longest. For about 1,500 million
years, in the case of Centralia's now worn down mountain ranges.
Once these peaks towered over 15,000 feet, once almost as high as
today's Himalayas.
But parts of another island continent, Greenland, have been
found to contain rocks 3,000 million years old. This fact emerged
only a few years ago and somewhat eroded our long- standing claim
to fame in the field of geological antiquity.
Now we're back in the running, with the recent discovery of what
may prove to be the world's oldest known fossil footprints. These
faint impressions in rock on the bank of the Genoa river were
found by scientists in 1972.
The tracks are thought to have been made by some sort of
amphibious creature about the size of a goanna - 350 million
years ago!
The age of the fossil footprints hasn't been proved yet. The
rocks in which they are embedded were flown out by helicopter
from the fastness of the East Gippsland high country to be examined
under laboratory conditions. When the scientists complete their tests,
we'll know if we have something new to boast about.
It's all rather embarrassing for other scientists, because they've
been saying for years that no such animal as the one that left its
footprints beside the Genoa river ever existed in Australia.
East Gippsland may hold some more geological and archaeological
secrets. Local legend has it that approximately on the border between
NSW and Victoria, somewhere north of Mallacoota Inlet, stand man-made
stone walls of great antiquity. Strangely carved they are said to be
far older than anything built since the coming of the white man or
Aborigines to Australia.
I've been invited to look at these "walls", which may of course turn
out to be natural formations. But I've put off the trip for the last
six years, mainly because a 13-mile bush-bash on foot through
mountainous country is required to gaze upon these ancient works of
man or nature.
Which reminds me that a couple of years back I found what appeared to
be very old stone walls right on the edge of the Indian Ocean, near
Cape Keraudren, on our north-west coast.
This was the proposed site of an iron port to be blasted out
with nuclear explosions. The walls were so eroded, it was
possible to walk past and over them without realizing they were
in fact man-made.
But seen from certain angles, with the sun low on the horizon,
there was no doubt about their origin. Right on the water's edge
was a wave-splashed stone jetty, although barely recognizable.
Who built this ancient port? My guess is that it is far older
than anything built since Europeans settled our northwest coast
last century. I've visited the ruins of the first recorded port
on our northwest coast, at Point Samson, established in the
1880s. The stone jetties and customs house are eroded but they
appear to have been built yesterday in comparison with the
crumbling, barely recognizable ruins at Cape Keraudren.
Judged against the minor wear and tear at Point Samson, built
roughly a century ago, Cape Keraudren's walls must date back to
the time of the Pyramids. Sea traders from the Arab countries
known to have reached south-east Asia and the islands of
Indonesia more than 1,000 years ago. Perhaps they built the now
barely recognizable port on our north-west coast?
Judging from the way geographers are re-writing the geological
history of the world, based on recent fossil footprint and other
discoveries, archaeologists may have to do the same with the
human history of Australia. Only a decade ago, it was accepted
that the first people to live on our continent were the
Aborigines. They were thought to have arrived 16,000 years ago.
New archaeological finds pushed this figure back to 40,000
years.
Very recently, scientists have decided that rock carvings in
Tasmania and central Australia were made by people who lived here
100,000 years ago. Where they came from, the experts won't say
until they think they're sure - and recent events have proved
that scientists can be as wrong.
The voyage of the raft la Balsa from South America showed that
settlers could have reached Australia from that country.
Arab and Egyptian traders may have done some colonizing from the
other direction. There is strong evidence that Chinese sailors
landed on our northern coast 2,000 years ago.
Who knows from what other directions early visitors to our
continent arrived? A popular and certainly not disproved theory
is that travellers could have visited here from outer space!
I don't support this theory. Nor do I laugh at it. Only fully
qualified "expert" would have the temerity to do that.
So many accepted scientific "facts" about earth's early history
have been found wrong lately, it seems prudent to keep a very
open mind on what happened, or may have happened, back in the
"dawn of time." Whenever that was.
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the Earth were laid. He didn't know but it may have been that he
was here when it was done and he sang for joy with the Morning
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John Winston. john...@mlode.com
Subject: Spraying On Top Of My Head. May 22, 2000.

They are still spraying like mad over my head. I've had the
so-called flue symptoms with the runs and I'm not even in training.
Here the latest on Chemtrails. It may be true and it may be just
gossip I don't know. Here we go again.

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From: N M
Subject: CHEMTRAILS - Did An Airline Mechanic Stumble Upon The Truth?
http://www.sightings.com/general/stumble.htm

(Note - We cannot confirm the following statement but the implications
are enormous, and we expect there will be serious efforts to investigate
and evaluate these allegations quickly. -ed.)

For reasons you will understand as you read this I can not divulge my
identity. I am an aircraft mechanic for a major airline. I work at one
of our maintenance bases located at a large airport. I have discovered
some information that I think you will find important.

First I should tell you something about the "pecking order" among
mechanics. It is important to my story and to the cause to which you
have dedicated yourself.

Mechanics want to work on three things. The avionics, the engines, or
the flight controls. The mechanics that work on these systems are
considered at the top of the "pecking order". Next come the mechanics
that work on the hydraulics and air conditioning systems. Then come the
ones who work on the galley and other non-essential systems. But at the
very bottom of the list are the mechanics that work on the waste
disposal systems. No mechanic wants to work on the pumps, tanks, and
pipes that are used to store the waste from the lavatories.

But at every airport where I have worked there are always 2 or 3
mechanics that volunteer to work on the lavatory systems. The other
mechanics are happy to let them do it. Because of this you will have
only 2 or 3 mechanics that work on these systems at any one airport. No
one pays much attention to these guys and no mechanic socializes with
another mechanic who only works on the waste systems. In fact I had
never thought much about this situation until last month.

Like most airlines we have reciprocal agreements with the other airlines
that fly into this airport. If they have a problem with a plane one of
our mechanics will take care of it. Likewise if one of our planes has a
problem at an airport where the other airline has a maintenance base,
they will fix our plane.

One day last month I was called out from our base to work on a plane for
another airline. When I got the call the dispatcher did not know what
the problem was. When I got to the plane I found out that the problem
was in waste disposal system. There was nothing for me to do but to
crawl in and fix the problem. When I got into the bay I realized that
something was not right. There were more tanks, pumps, and pipes then
should have been there. At first I assumed that the system had been
changed. It had been 10 years since I had worked on one. As I tried to
find the problem I quickly realized the extra piping and tanks were not
connected to the waste disposal system. I had just discovered this when
another mechanic from my company showed up. It was one of the mechanics
who usually works on these systems. I happily turned the job over to
him. As I was leaving I asked him about the extra equipment. He told me
to "worry about my end of the plane and let him worry about his!"

The next day I was on the company computer to look up a wiring
schematic. While I was there I decided to look up the extra equipment I
had found. To my amazement the manuals did not show any of the extra
equipment I had seen with my own eyes the day before. I even tied in to
the manufacturer files and still found nothing. Now I was really
determined to find out what that equipment did.

The next week we had three of our planes in our main hanger for periodic
inspection. There are mechanics crawling all over a plane during these
inspections. I had just finished my shift and I decided to have a look
at the waste system on one of our planes. With all the mechanics around
I figured that no one would notice an extra one on the plane. Sure
enough, the plane I choose had the extra equipment!

I began to trace the system of pipes, pumps, and tanks. I found what
appeared to be the control unit for the system. It was a standard
looking avionics control box but it had no markings of any kind. I could
trace the control wires from the box to the pumps and valves but there
were no control circuits coming into the unit. The only wires coming
into the unit was a power connection to the aircraft's main power bus.

The system had 1 large and 2 smaller tanks. It was hard to tell in the
cramped compartment but it looked like the large tank could hold 50
gallons. The tanks were connected to a fill and drain valve that passed
through the fuselage just behind the drain valve for the waste system.
When I had a chance to look for this connection under the plane I found
it cunningly hidden behind a panel under the panel used to access the
inspection. There are mechanics crawling all over a plane during these
inspections. I had just finished my shift and I decided to have a look
When I had a chance to look for this connection under the plane I found
it cunningly hidden behind a panel under the panel used to access the
waste drain.

I began to trace the piping from the pumps. These pipes lead to a
network of small pipes that ended in the trailing edges of the wings and
horizontal stabilizers. If you look closely at the wings of a large
airplane you will see a set of wires, about the size of your finger,
extending from the trailing edge of the wing surfaces. These are the
static discharge wicks. They are used to dissipate the static electric
charge that builds up on a plane in flight. I discovered that the pipes
from this mystery system lead to every 1 out of 3 of these static
discharge wicks. These wicks had been "hollowed out" to allow whatever
flows through these pipes to be discharged through these fake wicks.

It was while I was on the wing that one of the managers spotted me. He
ordered me out of the hanger telling me that my shift was over and I had
not been authorized any overtime.

The next couple of days were very busy and I had no time to continue my
investigation. Late one afternoon, two days after my discovery, I was
called to replace an engine temperature sensor on a plane due to take
off in two hours. I finished the job and turned in the paperwork.

About 30 minutes later I was paged to see the General Manager. When I
went in his office I found that our union rep and two others who I did
not know were waiting on me. He told me that a serious problem had been
discovered. He said that I was being written up and suspended for
turning in false paperwork. He handed me a disciplinary form stating
that I had turned in false paperwork on the engine temperature sensor I
had installed a few hours before. I was floored and began to protest. I
told them that this was ridiculous and that I had done this work. The
union rep spoke up then and recommended that we take a look at the plane
and see if we could straighten it all out. It was at this time that I
asked who the other two men were. The GM told me that they were airline
safety inspectors but would not give me their name.

We proceeded to the plane, which should have been in the air but was
parked on our maintenance ramp. We opened the engine cowling and the
union rep pulled the sensor. He checked the serial number and told
everyone that it was the old instrument. We then went to the parts bay
and went back into the racks. The union rep checked my report and pulled
from the rack a sealed box. He opened the box and pulled out the engine
temperature sensor with the serial number of the one I had installed. I
was told that I was suspended for a week without pay and to leave
immediately.

I sat at home the first day of my suspension wondering what the h--l had
happened to me. That evening I received a phone call. The voice told me
"Now you know what happens to mechanics who poke around in things they
shouldn't. The next time you start working on systems that are no
concern of yours you will lose your job! As it is I'm feeling generous,
I believe that you'll be able to go back to work soon" CLICK. Again I
had to pick myself from off the floor. I made the connection that what
had happened was directly connected to my tracing the mysterious piping.
The next morning the General Manager called me. He said that due to my
past excellent employment record that the suspension had been reduced to
one day and that I should report back to work immediately. The only
thing I could think of was what are they trying to hide and who are
THEY!

That day at work went by as if nothing had happened. None of the other
mechanics mentioned the suspension and my union rep told me not to talk
about it. That night I logged onto the Internet to try to find some
answers. I don't remember now how I got there but I came across your
site. That's when it all came together. But the next morning at work I
found a note inside my locked locker. It said, "Curiosity killed the
cat. Don't be looking at Internet sites that are no concern of yours."

Well that's it. THEY are watching me.

Well you already know what they are doing. I don't know what they are
spraying but I can tell you how they are doing it. I figure they are
using the "honey trucks". These are the trucks that empty the waste from
the lavatory waste tanks. The airports usually contract out this job and
nobody goes near these trucks. Who wants to stand next a truck full of
s---. While these guys are emptying the waste tanks they are filling the
tanks of the spray system. They know the planes flight path so they
probably program the control unit to start spraying some amount of time
after the plane reaches a certain altitude. The spray nozzles in the
fake static wicks are so small that no one in the plane would see a
thing.

G-d help us all, A concerned citizen.

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Subject: News From The Spiritual Warrior Cleanup Crew. May 22, 2000.

Here is some news from my friends who are trying to make the Earth
a better place.

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From: S

Subject: Notes from healing work that Jack and I did...

Hi Guys!
All the following work with Jack was done in the aftermath of
the planetary alignment. It seems that things are easier to heal
now, so something big must have changed.
We discovered that Primordial Conscience makes sure that
people process their karma. But they tend to stuff it into the
crown chakra, instead of the sex chakra, where it belongs in
order to try and bypass it. All that does is mess them up
further while they develop even more bad karma....

May 13

Ruth discovered the vortex over the right shoulder that had been
put there by a group of renegade Anunaki from the moon. It was
a monitoring and energy draining device. Worked on it first with
Ruth, and then with Jack. Ruth also uncovered the throat chakra
implant that keeps people from speaking their truth that had
been put there by the ETs on oodles of people. Had to get rid of
all the associated energies so it wouldn't regenerate. Took care of
all entities and oversouls involved. My throat was red for a couple
of days after that. Still not all OK yet....
Worked on "Devil" again. It is starting to get some female
energies after we merged him with his female counterpart. The
self awareness in his aura goes about half way down, so he has
more to go. He is NOT a time lord. He is NOT evolved like
Lucifer. We replaced the Devil's backbone and removed his tail
that was holding him in the wrong direction, and an implant to evil.
His left kidney was hard as a rock, so we replaced it, and the left
kidney of all Humanity, which needed it also. Since the Devil was
not connected to Nature, he couldn't help but do evil, so we
reconnected him with Nature and created some new matrices for him.
Since the Devil belongs to a spirit family of 12, we asked the same
be done for the rest of them that we just did for him. He is about
30% shaped up... More to do later...
Then we saw that the headquarters of the N-O and Ill-uminati in
Paris needed some work. We did what we could, and then worked
on the Group Spirit of Europe which had allowed this to happen
there. Needed =opps on beliefs, ideas and concepts. Moved on to
the Group Spirit of Russia. Did the same there, but it was harder
to work with. It needed some new bones and got them. Bones are
where all the old memories get stuck. The 8th chakra of Russia
also needed cleaning out. It was bursting over with garbage.
Europe's 8th chakra looked like a dried up raisin. Worked them
both over.
Then we worked on Missy and Georgia (group spirits of Humanity
on the 4th and 5th densities) some more. Cleaned out the 8th
chakra again, and found some evil shoulder attachments on top
of the shoulder that went down the arms. Took them off. Then
the energies started flowing nicely. Also cleaned out the Quelle
chakra. Then we asked that all the other Nations Group Spirits
be cleaned also.
Found that each chakra had an Oversoul responsible for the chakra.
Jack asked the Holy Spirit, AA Michael, and the healing gang to
clean up all the Oversouls and all the levels. On one of the higher
levels of Missy, there was a fear of losing one's identity. Did the
=opps on it.
When we did this, there was the sudden realization of who they
really are and awesome sorrow and blame for not realizing this before.
They had to feel this as part of the learning process. This one
needs checking again!
Then the group spirit - overlord - of all Humanities past lives
showed up. He was upset. He was the one we had worked on
before that was full of sorrow. But he still has something wrong
with his lower legs. Was suffering remorse over major error in
the past. He is responsible for Humanities lower legs not being
able to go on evolving. It is 11th initiation related. It was hard
for anyone at all to get to the 11th initiation because of this dude's
blockage. Did =opps on it.
Asked the Holy Spirit to gather up all the overlords of all
Humanities chakras and make sure they were clean and transformed. She
said she would.
Pan showed up and wanted all this work to be extended to the
Nature Realms. Did it. He had sorrow for everything that had happened.
Did more work on the s-x chakra of all Beings and rearranged matrices.
The Holy Spirit did this and got the energies to flowing and everyone
connected to Source.

May 16, 2000

Worked on the throat chakra limiting devices again. I feel there
is still more to do with this one...
Found Beast energy implant and removed it in all Humanity. Also
removed any tails left. Took off another level of damage of Devil
to Humanity.
Worked on Missy's feet chakras and 3rd eye, where we found the
Devil blockage. Affected the se- chakra, too. Got it all fixed up
and cleaned.

May 18, 2000

Worked on Group Spirits of ticks, fleas and chiggers. Also
requested that the various parasites could also be reassigned
instead of continuing to plague mankind. Don't know when
this will happen....
Sent more evil oversouls off to the Holy Spirit to be dealt with.
Many were terminated. We asked that the damage that was
done to Humanity by these oversouls be healed.
Then we worked on the shoulder chakras, spheres and realms, to
get them all cleaned up and functioning properly. Each one was
different. First we got the healing vortex appropriate for what we
were doing that Jack's guides told him about this morning. Both
sides had something under the realms holding them down. Got
it out and cleaned everything up.
There was a blockage up the left side stopping the kundalini
from coming up. It had been placed there at the beginning of the
Human experience, and the energy meridian was not being used.
Had to form an opening and energy template for it. Holy Spirit
did it.
We made sure that everything we were doing this morning was
being done multidimensionally.
Then we worked on the two hip chakras, spheres and realms. But
Jack's face started itching, and he said it was an implant that he was
supposed to notice so that we could remove it from all Humanity.
We did. Back to hips... Cleaned everything out and got the
energies to flowing.
Then we went to the chakras in the aura on each side of the ankles.
The spheres were full of crud and all plugged up, and the realms
were being held down by some form of cup that had to be disolved.
Found entities and overlords involved. The Holy Spirit wanted to
be the one to handle the overlords.
Then we were led to 2 chakras in the aura in front of the body, and
2 in the aura in back.
Holy Spirit said this was the first time these had been activated
ever! And that we would see the results almost immediately.
Then we went to the elbow chakras, spheres, and realms. There
were the tiny beings that popped out. They belong in there and
need to be activated and grow up. Some chakras have these tiny
beings, and some don't. Curious.... They are NOT entities that
need getting rid of. These were being activated for the first time,
too.

Part 1.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com
Part 2 of 2.

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On to the wrist chakras, spheres and realms. Those had been
active at the beginning of time, but had been deactivated when
Humanity originated. Now they are being reactivated. Jack said
they looked like pearls, and acted as antennae.
Then worked on the knuckle chakras, spheres, and realms. And
then on to the palms. The energies there had been trashed due
to all the clinging, holding on, manipulating and grasping of the
throat chakra. They had to be replaced with the new template for
ascension. We then asked the Holy Spirit to teach Humanity
about their use so that it would be ethical.
Then we did the ankle chakras, spheres, and realms themselves.
The others we had done were out in the aura beside the ankles.
The energy in them was as solid as a rock and had to be put into
the future a bit to soften them up before we could get it out. The
energies were atrophied and needed reactivating.
Next were the feet chakras. When the spheres were opened, a lot
of little beings popped out, and Sananda said he wanted to handle
all these, so it was turned over to him. There was a big oversoul
dude in the ankles that needed to go. He was terminated since he
couldn't shape up and was stopping the ascension. All kinds of
crud in the ankles was syphoned off by the Galaxy Being, who
was very busy this morning what with all the spheres getting
cleaned out....
We found that there was a weird energy going up and down the
right side of Missy, and wondered what it was. The Holy Spirit
said it was misplaced energy, and put it back where it belonged,
and said she had been wanting to fix it for a long time, but
needed for someone to ask. She rearranged all the energies and
the matrices. Took care of the dudes that originally caused it.
We found a time warp in Missy's right hip. It was the 1947 time
period that Ruth had seen. We dealt with the beings responsible,
and then turned them over to the Holy Spirit to finish up. Closed
the warp and returned the time lines to normal.
Missy had a lot of stagnation in her gall bladder and liver, so we
cleaned it all up.
There was a dude in the toe joints that needed "impaling" with
the Spark of Divine Awareness. He was reluctant to transmute,
and it just didn't work, so he was terminated. He said he would
rather die than transmute.
Sananda joined up just as we were doing the toe joints. And it all
related to Masada. UGH! What trauma, and he was there! So
was I and it was all very painful. All the karma got neutralized in
all the joints of the toes in relation to Masada, maybe in relation
to other things, too.... I could feel Sananda's foot the whole time
it was being worked on. We had to ask All That Is to absolve all
the karma involved. Heavy duty stuff!!! The right toe next to the
big toe was the worst, and went right up to a misguided Archangel!
Turned out to belong to Sh's spirit family. We grabbed her Dark
Overlord and did some transformation on it. Hope it worked!
Then we did the two chakras in the aura on each side just above
the head. The one on the left side was OK, but the one on the
right side was being blocked from ascension and had entities in
the spheres that needed terminating. The Holy Spirit came in and
transmuted everything. They were antennae for transmuting evil
and needed cleaning up. I guess they were overworked. :-)
The Holy Spirit said she wanted to clean up the chakra, sphere,
and realm under the feet, and then the one over the head was
cleaned up. It was the 11th. Lots of sorrow from the shadow
self.
Finally the 12th chakra, sphere and realm was cleaned up and is
being reactivated.

May 19

While working on a fellow and his family in Norway, we found
that the Orions had put an implant in his hip and turned him in
the wrong direction by putting some roots down through his
crown chakra and sending them out through micro-black holes
into other dimensions where their energies were drained off,
that couldn't be closed until all the roots were gone. It was a
very difficult process, and we had to turn it over to the Holy
Spirit, who was very grateful for our uncovering it so that it
could be taken care of finally. I had been suffering from this
one for years!!! We sent the people from earth who had sold
their souls to the Orions for power in this matter, to the court
of Justice with the Galactic Federation and the Higher Beings.
The members of the NW- and Illumin-ti who had already
decided to shape up and who saw this happening, were really
glad they had shaped up!!! The Holy Spirit said the Orions
were going to be put back in the Stone Age to start over again.
Sounds good to me!
We then gathered up the Group Spirit of all those that had been
affected by this attack that had been going on for years, and did
some healing on them. The Holy Spirit said she would take
over and make sure it was all done right. But it could be awhile
before all the damage is repaired. I was getting something about
August, when all the Lightworkers would come into their full
power, and it would be awesome! The whole world will stand
up and take notice!!!
So take Jack's guides advice when healing, and get a vortex that
is compatible with what you are going to be doing first. It add
energy to the healing. Works really well! For more information
on the healing methods used here, go to Jack's website and check
the healing section at:
http://members.yournet.com/jobrien/INDEX.html
All for now....
Love,
S

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Subject: Quake. May 21, 2000.

Here is something that Jack asked me to put out.

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From: Jack

Subject: Several references to a quake

John: Remember a couple of months ago I sent you a copy of a prophetic
dream related to me by a Native American named Keith? He said he
dreaamed that two quakes would hit the St. Louis area, the first being a
small one, but one large building near the river front would collapse.
Then a much larger quake would occur shortly after. Well here are two
additional references to a quake in the St. Louis area:
(received this yesterday, May 19th, from a friend of a friend.)
Also, word of warning: The midwest, from about Amarillo, TX to St.
Louis, MO should be prepared for large scale destruction, a la the Loma
Prieta Earthquake -- don't know when, but I got it in a dream last
night and woke up this morning with a migraine. The New Madrid fault
has branches going through the above area. The sky was clear in my
dream so it most likely won't be weather-related. I'll post the entire
dream on Spiritlife and TMG Dreams later today.

This is the first time I have ever awakened from a dream with the
interpretation right there in the ole "mental software." I followed
the instructions given in the Word to discern spirit, too. The Person
with whom I was speaking gave me the correct answer.
(From another friend who I asked to check out the area, 5/19/20)
When I peeked in, I did an overhead view of the whole region and I saw
or rather felt something. Gaia is concerned about this upcoming weekend
holiday thing and it is like she doesn't want it to be happening or
something. She is tired of it all and wants to shake it off of her -
all the partying and excess of the people you know. Then I felt a
rip or tear in the land running northwest of St. Louis just slightly
and then down along the Mississippi a ways but not very far. Perhaps
I am wrong but that is what I felt and then saw. Do you have others
confirming this too?
Curious to find out.
John: Finally, I have a highschool graduating class reunion scheduled
for about a week from now, and ever since I received word a couple of
months ago, I kept getting the impression that it was going to be
cancelled. And now I am getting the impression it is due to this quake
potential.
All I can say is that if St. Louis gets the small warning quake
predicted by Keith, it might be a good time to publicize this if you
want to take it upon yourself. I believe the Biggie will occur about a
day and a half later. These three predictions all have St. Louis
mentioned.

Jack O'B

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From: Jack
Subject: Original Vision

John:
Here is the original vision write up about a possible quake in the St.
Louis area.

I had two house guests the week of December 12th. One was a Native
American who described what he thought to be a vision of two earthquakes
along the Mississippi River in the St. Louis area.
He said he saw the first earthquake would be minor, but would cause a
large (older) building along the banks of the river collapse. He did
not mention much other damage. He said this was to be taken as a
warning to get out because a much larger quake would occur soon after.
There would be just enough time to pack up and leave. The second would
be pretty massive, with many choosing to transit into the 4th density
and leave their physical bodies behind. The major damage would be on
the east side of the river.

He said he had a glimpse of a black pig at the beginning of this vision,
and got the impression that when he actually did see one, it would be a
sign that these quakes were about to happen. He said he had this vision
about a week before his visit.

He did not mention this vision during the early part of his visit, and
only mentioned it when we brought up our planned visit to a mutual
friend who had a pet black pot bellied pig, which we did the next day.
Up until that point he was not taking this very seriously since it was
so "off the wall" that he would see one. But this actually places a
mark of authenticity on the vision because spotting a black pig would
have been so unlikely. I told him he would not have had it unless he at
least let some people know about it. Since this is apparently the
first time this has happened, it would not be good to publicize his
name in the event it does not occur. However I felt some people should
be advised ahead of time, and if it happens, and he gets more of these,
future visions would be considered more than just daydreaming and should
be taken seriously.

Jack O'B

John F. Winston

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Here are two past postings.

Subject: Female Reptilian. May 22, 2000.

Here is an interview with a lady reptilian.

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From: S
Subject: The Lacerta File

Introduction

I certify that the following text is the absolute truth and no work
of fiction. These are parts of a transcript of an interview I've made
with a non-human and reptilian being in December 1999. This
female being was already in contact with a friend of mine (whose
name is given only with the abbreviation E.F. in the text) since
some months.
Let me declare, that I was all my life a sceptic about UFOs, aliens
and other weird things and I thought that E.F. tells me just dreams
or fictionous stories when he talked with me about his first contacts
with the non-human being "Lacerta". I was still a sceptic when I
met this being on December 16 last year in that small warm room
in the remote house of my friend near to a town in the south of
Sweden, despite the fact that I saw now with my own eyes that she
was not human.
She has told and shown me so many unbelievable things during that
meeting that I can't deny the reality and the truth of her words any
longer. This is not another of that wrong UFO papers which claim
to tell the truth but tell in fact just fiction, I'm convinced that this
transcript contains the only truth and therefore you should read it.
I had talked with her for over 3 hours, so the following transcript
shows you only shortened parts of the interview, because she
asked me after the interview not to publish everything she had told
me already now. The order of the questions in this transcript is not
always the same order in which I had asked them, so it may seem
sometimes a little bit confusing to you. It was not easy to delete all
the important parts she had asked me to delete from the transcript,
so I apologize for the maybe unusual order.
I'm in the possession of the entire transcript of the interview (49
pages with some of my drawings of her body and her equipment)
and also of some tapes on which I have the full interview, but I will
not reveal this before I have permission from her. I will send this
shortened form of the still fascinating document to four of my
reliable friends to Finland, Norway, Germany and France and I
hope they will translate it into their own languages and into other
languages and I hope as many people as possible will be able to
read and to understand the transcript. If you receive it, please send
it to all your friends via e-mail or make printouts and copy them.
I certify furthermore, that various "paranormal" abilities of her
species like telepathy and telekinesis (including the moving and
dancing of my pencil on the table without touching and the flying
of an apple around 40 centimetres over her hands) were shown
to me during the 3 hours and 6 minutes of the meeting and I'm
absolutely sure that these abilities were no tricks. The following is
certainly difficult to understand and to believe for someone who
haven't experienced it, but I was really in contact with her mind
and I'm now completely sure that everything she said during the
interview is the absolute truth about our world.
Unfortunately, if I read the entire transcript and (much more) this
very shortened form by myself I have the strong impression, that
everything I've written sounds too unbelievable to be true, that
everything sounds more like a bad science fiction story from TV or
cinema and I have doubts that anyone will believe my experiences.
But they are true, if you believe it or not. I can't expect from you
that you believe my simple words without evidence, but I can't give
you that evidence. Please read the transcript and think about it and
you will maybe see the truth in this words.
There will be a new meeting between me and her (again in the same
house in Sweden) on April 23 2000 and she promised me to give
me maybe some evidence for her existence. In the meantime I
collect questions which I will ask her then. Maybe she gives me
permission to reveal more of the missing parts in that transcript
and about the coming war.
Believe it or not, this makes no real difference (but I hope you will
believe.)
Ole K.
January 8 2000
Transcript of Interview (shortened form)
Date: December 16 1999

Question: First of all, who are you and what are you? Are you an
extraterrestrial species or can your origin be found on this planet?
Answer: As you could see with your own eyes, I'm not a human
being like you and to be honest I'm no real mammal (despite my
partly mammal-like body features, which are a result of evolution.)
I'm a female reptile being, belonging to a very old reptilian race.
We are the native terrans and we live on that planet since millions
of years. We are mentioned in your religious writings like your
Chri-tian B-ble and many of the ancient human tribes were aware
of our presence and worshipped us as g-ds, for example the
Egyptians and the Inca and many other old tribes.
Your Chris-ian rel-gion have misunderstood our role in your
creation, so we are mentioned as "evil serpent" in your writings.
This is wrong. Your race was genetically engineered by aliens and
we were just the more or less passive visitors of this accelerated
evolution process. You must know (some of your scientists have
already supposed this) that your species had evolved in a naturally
completely impossible speed within just 2 - 3 millions of years.
This is absolutely impossible, because evolution is a much slower
process if it's natural but you have not understand this. Your
creation was artificial and done by genetic engineering, but not by
us but by an alien species. If you ask me, if I'm an extraterrestrial,
I must answer no. We are native terrans. We had and have some
colonies in the solar system, but we originate on this planet. It's in
fact our planet and not yours - it was never yours.

Question: Can you tell me your name?
Answer: This is difficult, because your human tongue is not able
to pronounce it correctly (and a mispronounciation of our names
is very offensive for some of my kind.) Our language is very
different from yours, but my name is - I will try to say it smoother
by use of your human letters - something like "Sssshiaassshakkka-
sskkhhhshhh" with a very very strong pronounciation of the "sh"
and "k" sounds. We have no forenames like you but only a single
but unique name which is divided and characterized by the way of
speaking and which is given not to children (who have an own
children-name) but only in a special procedure in the adolescent
age at the time of either relig-ous or scientific "enlightenment" or
awareness (as you would call it.) I would appreciate it if you don't
try to say my real name with your human tongue. Please call me
"Lacerta", this is the name I generally use when I'm among
humans and talk with them.

Question: How old are you?
Answer: We measure the time not like you in astronomical years
and in the revolve of the earth around sun, because we usually live
beneath the surface of the planet. Our time measurement depends
on periodically returning cycles in the earth magnetic field and
according to this (and said with your numbers) I'm today - let me
calculate - 57,653 cycles old. I have reached my adult phase and
my awareness 16,337 cycles ago (this is a very important date for
us.) According to your human time scale I'm around 28 years old.

Question: What is your task? Do you have a "job" like us?
Answer: To say it with your words: I'm a curious student of the
social behaviour of your species. That's why I'm here and talk to
you, that's why I have revealed my real nature to E.F. and now to
you and that's why I give you all that secret information and why
I will try to answer all the questions on your many sheets of paper
honestly. I will see how you react, how others of your kind react.
There are so many crazies and liars of your kind on this planet
who claim to know the truth about us, about UFOs, about aliens
and so on and some of you believe their lies. I'm interested to see
how your species will react if you make the truth (which I will tell
you now) public. I'm quite sure everyone of you will refuse to
believe my words, but I hope I'm wrong, because you need to
understand if you want to survive the coming years.

Question: I've read your full statement (which you have given to
E.F.) about this, but can you give me now just a short answer: are
UFOs real flying objects piloted by extraterrestrials or do they
belong to your species?
Answer: Some observed UFOs - as you call them - belong to us,
but most not. Most of the "mysterious" flying objects in the sky are
not technological devices but mainly misinterpretations of natural
phenomena your scientists have not understand (like spontanous
plasma flares in the high atmosphere.) Nevertheless, some UFOs
are real craft belonging either to your own species (especially to
your military) or to other alien species or at last to us (but a
minority of sighted craft belongs really to us, because we are
generally very careful with our movements in the atmosphere and we
have special ways to hide our ships.)
If you read a report about a sighting of a metalish bright-gray cigar-
shaped cylindrical object with a length of - there are different types -
let me say between 20 and 260 of your metres and if this object had
made a very deep humming sound and if there were 5 bright red lights
on the metalish surface of the cigar (one at the top, one in the middle,
two at the end) then it's likely that someone of you have seen one
of our ships and this means that it was either partly defect or that
someone of us was not careful enough.
We have also a very small fleet of disc-shaped craft, but such UFOs
belong usually to an alien species. Triangular UFOs belong generally
to your own military but they use foreign technology to build them.
If you really want to try to see one of our craft, you should have a
look at the skies over the Arctic, the Antarctic and over Inner Asia
(especially over the mountains there.)

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Part 1.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com
Subject: Female Reptilian. Part 2. May 24, 2000.

This explains what the lady Rep. looks like.

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Question: Have you a special symbol or something like that with
which we can identify your kind?

Answer: We have two major symbols representing our species. One
(the more ancient) symbol is a blue serpent with four white wings
on a black background (the colours have reli-ious meanings for us.)
This symbol was used from certain parts of my society, but it is
today very seldom - you humans have copied it very often in your
old writings.
The other symbol is a mystic being you would call a "Dragon" in the
shape of a circle with seven white stars in the middle. This symbol
is much more common today. If you see one of that symbols on a
cylindrical craft I've described in my previous answer or on some
underground installation, this thing or place belongs definitely to us
(and I would advise you to go away from there as soon as possible.)

Question: The seven stars in the second symbol you've mentioned -
do they mean the Pleiades?

Answer: Pleiades? No. Actually, the seven stars are planets and
moons and they are a symbol for our former seven colonies in the
solar system. The stars are shown in front of a blue background
and the dragon-circle means the shape of Earth. The seven white
stars mean Moon, Mars, Venus and 4 moons of Jupiter and Saturn,
we had colonized in the past. Two colonies are no longer in use
and abandoned, so 5 stars would be more correct.

Question: As you have not allowed me to make photos - what would
be very useful to prove your real existence and the truth of this
story - can you describe yourself detailed?

Answer: I know that it would be helpful to prove the authenticity of
this interview if you can make some photos from me. Otherwise, you
humans are very sceptical (that's good for us and for the real alien
species acting secretly on this planet) so even if you had such photos,
many of your kind would say that they are fraud, that I'm just a masked
human woman or something like that (that would be very offensive for
me.)
You must understand, that I can't give you permission to make photos of
me or of my equipment. This have various reasons, which I want not to
discuss with you further, but one of the reasons is the keeping up of
the secrecy of our existence, another reason is more r-ligious.
Nevertheless, you have permission to make drawings of my look and of my
equipment I can show you later. I can also try to describe myself, but I
doubt that others of your kind will be able to imagine my real look just
from simple words, because the automatic denial of the existence of
reptilian species and generally of intelligent species other then your
own is part of the programming of your mind. Well, I will try.
Imagine the body of a normal human woman and you have at first a good
imagination of my body. Like you, I have a head, two arms, two hands,
two legs and two feet and the proportions of my body are like yours. As
I'm female I have also two bre-sts (despite our reptile origin, we have
started to give milk to our babies during the evolution process - this
happened around 30 million years ago - because this is the best thing to
keep the young alive. Evolution had done this for your species already
in the dinosaur age and - a little bit later - also for ours. That means
not that we are now real mammals) but the brea-ts of us are not as large
as those of human woman and the size of them is generally equal for
every female of my kind. The external reproduction organs are for both
se-es smaller then those of humans, but they are visible and they have
the same function as yours (another gift of evolution to our species.)
My skin is mainly of a green-beige colour - more pale green - and we
have some patterns of brown irregular dots (each dot of the size of 1 -
2 centimetres) on our skin and in our face (the patterns are different
for both s-es but females have more, especially in the lower body and
in the face.) You can see them in my case as two lines over the eyebrows
crossing my forehead, at my cheek and at my chin.
My eyes are a little bit larger then human eyes (for this reason, we
can see better in the darkness) and usually dominated from the large
black pupils, which are surrounded from a small bright-green iris
(males have a dark-green iris). The pupil is slit and can change its
size from a small black line to a wide-open egg-shaped oval, because
our retina is very light sensitive and the pupil must compare this.
We have external round ears but they are smaller and not so curved as
yours, but we can hear better because our ears are more sensitive for
sonic (we can also hear a wider range of sonic). There's a muscle or
"lid" over the ears which can completely close them (for example under
water).
Our nose is more pointed and there is a V-shaped curving between the
nostrils, which enabled the ancestors to "see" temperature. We have lost
most of this ability, but we can still feel temperature much better with
this "organ".
Our lips are shaped like yours (those of females a little bit larger
then those of males) but of a pale brown colour and our teeth are very
white and strong and a little bit longer and sharper then your soft
mammal teeth.
We have no different hair colours like you (but there is a tradition to
colour the hairs in different ages) and the original colour is - like
mine - a greenish brown. Our hairs are thicker and stronger then yours
and they grow very slow. In addition, the head is the only part of our
body where we have hairs.
Our body, arms and legs are similar in shape and size to yours, but the
color is different (green-beige, like the face) and there are scale-like
structures on the upper legs (over the knee) and upper arms (over the
elbow). Our five fingers are a little bit longer and thinner then human
fingers and our skin on the palm is plain, so we have no lines like you
but again a combination of a scale-like skin structure and of the brown
dots (both sexes have the dots on the palm) and we have no fingerprints
like you.
If you touch my skin, you will feel that it is smoother then your hairy
skin. There are small sharp horns on the upside of both middle fingers.
The fingernails are grey and generally longer then yours. You see that
my nails are not so long and round at the top. This is because I'm
female. Males have sharp pointed nails with a lenght of sometimes 5 or 6
of your centimetres.
The following feature is very different from your body and part of our
reptilian origin: if you touch the backside of my upper body you will
feel a hard bony line through my clothing. This is not my spine but a
very difficult shaped external plate-strucure of skin and tissue
following exactly our spine from the head to the hip. There is an
extremely high number of nerves and large blood vessels in this structure
and in the plates (which are around two or three centimetres long and
very touch sensitive - this is the reason why we have always problems to
sit in chairs with a back like this chair.) The main task of these small
plates (beside a role in our -exuality) is simply the regulation of our
body temperature and if we sit in natural or artificial sunlight, these
plates become more bloodfilled and the vessels become wider and the sun
is able to heat up our reptilioid blood (which circulates through the
body and through the plates) for many degrees and that gives us a great
pleasure.
What else is different from your kind? Oh, we have no navel, because we
were born in a different way to your mammal birth. The other exterior
differences from your kind are minor and I think I must not mention all
now, because most of them are not visible if we wear clothing. I hope
the description of my body was detailed enough. I would advice you to
make some drawings.

Question: What kind of clothing do you generally wear. I suppose this
is not the way you dress normally?

Answer: No, I wear this human every-day-clothing only when I'm among
humans. To be honest, it's not very comfortable for me to wear such
tight things and it is always a very unusual feeling. If we are in our
own home (this means in our subterranean home) or in our large
artificial sun areas and if we are together with others near to our own
name, we are usually na-ed. Is this shocking for you? When we are in the
public and together with many others of my species we wear very wide and
soft clothing made of thin, light stuff. I have told you that many parts
of our bodies are very touch sensitive, mostly the small backplates so
we can't feel comfortable in tight clothing because it can hurt us. Man
and woman wear often the same kind of clothing, but the colours are
different for the s-xes.

Question: You've said "others near to your own name". Do you mean your
familiy?

Answer: No, not really. You would call it "family" but with this word
you mean only those of your kind which belong genetically together like
father or mother and child. As I have said earlier we have a very
difficult and unique name. Part of the pronounciation of that name is
absolute unique and there is no other being with the same name, but part
of this name (the middle part) is pronounced in a way that told the
others to which "family" (I must use the word, because you haven't the
right one in your vocabulary) you belong. This means not that all in
that group are genetically related to you, because this groups are
usually very large and contain between 40 and 70 of us. This group
includes generally your genetic relations - except one of them had
decided to left this group - and your connection with father and mother
is often the strongest. It would be too difficult for me to explain you
now our very old social system which is very complex and we would need
many hours only for the primary things. Maybe we can meet another time
and I can give you detailed descriptions of all these things.

Part 2.

John Winston.

John F. Winston

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Subject: The Spraying Of The World And C. Camps. May 25, 2000.

If I didn't have bad news I wouldn't have any news at all. The
following information will probably give your nightmares, nightmares
so beware take care.

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From: S
Subject: Airline Manager's Response to Chemtrail spraying (he admits
it!)
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Author Comment
cecarnicom Administrator
Reply An Airline Manager's Statement
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The following information is now available: http://www.carnicom.com,
or directly at: http://www.carnicom.com/mgr1.htm
AN AIRLINE MANAGER'S STATEMENT
Posted by C.E. Carnicom on behalf of the author
Mr. Carnicom:
I read the email you received from the anonymous mechanic and
felt compelled to respond to it. I, too, work for an airline, though
I work in upper management levels. I will not say which airline,
what city I am located, nor what office I work for, for obvious
reasons. I wish I could document everything I am about to relate
to you, but to do so is next to impossible and would result in
possible physical harm to me.
The email from the anonymous mechanic rings true. Airline
companies in America have been participating in something called
Project Cloverleaf for a few years now. The earliest date anyone
remembers being briefed on it is 1998. I was briefed on it in 1999.
The few airline employees who were briefed on Project Cloverleaf
were all made to undergo background checks, and before we were
briefed on it we were made to sign non-disclosure agreements,
which basically state that if we tell anyone what we know we could
be imprisoned.
About twenty employees in our office were briefed along with my
by two officials from some government agency. They didn't tell
us which one. They told us that the government was going to pay
our airline, along with others, to release special chemicals from
commercial aircraft. When asked what the chemicals were and
why we were going to spray them, they told us that information
was given on a need-to-know basis and we weren't cleared for it.
They then went on to state that the chemicals were harmless, but
the program was of such importance that it needed to be done at
all costs. When we asked them why didn't they just rig military
aircraft to spray these chemicals, they stated that there weren't
enough military aircraft available to release chemicals on such a
large basis as needs to be done. That's why Project Cloverleaf
was initiated, to allow commercial airlines to assist in releasing
these chemicals into the atmosphere.
Then someone asked why all the secrecy was needed. The
government reps then stated that if the general public knew that
the aircraft they were flying on were releasing chemicals into the
air, environmentalist groups would raise h-ll and demand the
spraying stop.
Someone asked one of the G-men then if the chemicals are
harmless, why not tell the public what the chemicals are and why
we are spraying them? He seemed perturbed at this question and
told us in a tone of authority that the public doesn't need to know
what's going on, but that this program is in their best interests.
He also stated that we should not tell anyone, nor ask any more
questions about it. With that, the briefing was over.
All documents in our office pertaining to Project Cloverleaf are
kept in locked safes. Nobody is allowed to take these documents
out of the office. Very few employees are allowed access to these
documents, and they remain tight-lipped about what the documents say.
Mr. Carnicom, I am no fool. I know there's something going on.
And frankly, I am scared. I feel a high level of guilt that I have
been aware of this kind of operation but unable to tell anyone.
It's been eating away at me, knowing that the company I work
for may be poisoning the American people. I hope this letter
will open some eyes to what's happening.
Again, I wish I could give you documented information, but you
have to understand why I must remain totally anonymous.
Thank you.
~~~~~~~ >>*<< ~~~~~~~~~

JW I don't know whether the following is true or not but you never
can tell what I'll come up with next.

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From: A P F
Subject: Conc-ntration Camp Locations in Southern California
By Don dbj...@24-seven.net
http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/mbs.cgi/mb1075995
-------- Original Message --------
Here is the camps info. 3-7-99
Note - If any of you can get to these locations and take some photos, we
would appreciate seeing them and will add them to this story. Suggest you
use caution and take a zoom lens along. Thanks to Don for this
information.
1. PEARBLOSSOM, CALIFORNIA: Located at the intersection of Ave 116 and
the Pearblossom Highway, this is a full-service facility, complete with
gas chambers, moat, machine gun towers, and roving armed patrols. Visit
at your own risk. If you do decide to see this one, you will be
descended upon by some very mean fellows, who will get your ID and
license, then monitor you.
2. FILMORE, CALIFORNIA: Located on highway 126, this at first glance
looks like an orange grove and is located on the north side of the
highway. It sports guard centers, three--count em--three sets of
fences, all pointing in, and some very nasty armed men who tell you
to "mind your own business." This camp is huge.
3. SANTA PAULA, CALIFORNIA: This is a holding camp, designed as a
stock-yard type of facility for those rounded up in the early sweeps.
4. VALENCIA, CALIFORNIA: This is one of the largest camps ever
constructed and measures some two miles by three miles, using the
reservoir at the intersection of the 5 and 405 freeways as a cover.
New buildings, armed guards, new roads, and many hundreds of buildings
for housing the d-mned.
5. GLENDALE, CALIFORNIA: Right behind Brand Park, take the 5 interstate
to Western Ave, then head north up the hill till you arrive at the park.
Then take the road -- by foot -- by the doctor's house on the
northwestern part of the park. Proceed up the hill to you reach the
reservoir, which is in fact, a holding facility. When we were there
last, there were five armed guards with M16s walking around.
---
Commentary on the Concentration Camps By Don dbj...@24-seven.net
3-7-99
Dear friends,
Recently, I sent out to the various news media an extremely small list of
Concentration Camps recently built by your Un-ted S-ates G-vernment. As
it happens, very few journalists acted upon the information and shared it
with listeners/viewers/readers. Of course, once the information was made
public, I've now become slandered, attacked, and called all sorts of
names and the like. How interesting it is that when we bring truth to our
world, the messenger is killed, even if symbolically.
Many of us in the media have been aware of these hideous camps since
their inception. It only takes a look at the history of this century
to know what will happen in them once they are populated. The heart
shudders at such knowledge but ignoring it won't make it go away. The
only answer is to get the information out there in the world and make
our elected government answer.
I've personally visited these camps and have taken pictures. They are
REAL.
They are manned. They have moats, motion sensors, inner berms to hide the
main complexes, guards at the gates, electric gates, processing centers,
and of course, high fences with razor wire and barbed pointing inward -
not outward - but inward to KEEP PEOPLE IN.
The larger facilities are called golf courses or water treatment plants.
When was the last time you saw a golf course (Portland, Oregon) with
armed guards carrying M16s? Why do the larger facilities have
smokestacks? Ever see a crematorium? The smaller facilities are usually
holding facilities, obviously designed for the short-term roundups
prior to the hapless souls being shipped off to their final destination
somewhere else.
You have to know that it was never my intention to uncover this
information to frighten anyone nor to get publicity, as so many claim.
As my readers are well aware, I stumbled upon this stuff in research
for a new book. I have a family and want to see them grow up and they
want to have a father that is alive, not dead. Reporting this type of
information has made me very unpopular with the gov-rnment and I've
been warned many times by the F-I to 'mind my own business.' Unlike
many of my contemporaries, I've chosen to research these camp claims
for myself.
I HAD to see them with my own eyes. They do exist. But the real question
that needs to be asked - and asked fast - is why.
Why are they being built? Who are they for? Why does the government deny
their existence? A friend of mine and I discovered 32 camps in just one
county in Colorado alone. You can drive right up to them. However, the
Dep-rtment of Cor-ections in Co-orado, the Ma-shall's Of-ice, the Co-nty
She-iffs office, and the Fe-eral agencies in Co-orado all claim there is
nothing at these sites except the lonesome prairie. That's just a flat
out l-e.
Because of the staggering amount of mail I've received on this, my
friends in the media - what few there are who have the guts to print
the truth - have allowed me to answer a myriad amount of questions
regarding the camps.
No one - not a single person - has reported this information on the
evening news nor in their newspapers. Most of these questions are
from the Internet by people who have read the research material and
it is their questions that are being answered.

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John Winston. john...@mlode.com
Part 2 of 2.

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Q: Why such a short list?
A: This was a good question and I've given the reason much thought.
We've uncovered over 700 hundred camps so far. We have pictures to
prove their existence. The answer is: We wanted to get as much of a
complete listing as we possibly could before going public. The reason
for that is obvious: you can't research very much when you are in
j-il on trumped-up charges or dead, can you? The other part of the
answer is that we are still observing the construction going on
there. For the most part we are very much watched when we visit
them; we are stopped by armed men who ask to see ID. This on public
roads. Making a circus of these sites will only get innocent people
ki-led. Know this; if you visit these camps you will end up under
gover-ment surveillance, and these folks are not very kind.
Also, most, if not all the construction on these facilities happens
at night. Why?
Q: Where are these camps located?
A: They seem to be popping up everywhere. For example, in January of
1999, there were no camps in Fillmore California, now there are two
(March 1999.)
They seem to ring around population centers for the most part, with many
short-term 'holding facilities' buried in the hills and dales around the
inner cities. There are over 53 camps in Southern California.
Q: How do you determine if they are a concen-ration camp?
A: This one is easy. Have you ever seen a prison up close? They do have
certain features that are unmistakable from other types of things like
schools or churches. Here are the determining factors. It has to have:
1. Barbed wire or razor wire fences that point inward. Look at most
security fences. The top portion points out to keep trespassers out,
right?
Prisons, labor camps and the like all have their fence tops pointing
in so that the inmates are greatly hampered in climbing them.
2. Some type of guard facility that is defendable and wired with
microwave transmitters.
3. Armed guards parading around in golf-pro shirts or Department of
Water clothing. I wasn't aware that our utilities were arming their
employees with MP5s and M16s. Even the smallest facility we found
had five, count em, five armed guards in tactical gear.
4. Tactical berms to hide the main complexes from the road. These also
have moats, not yet filled with water, that surround the inner complex.
The camp in Pearblossom is an excellent example of a full-service camp.
The people go in, but they don't come out.
Q: What was all that nonsense anyway about g-n control?
A: My research into concentr-tion camps revealed that prior to each
country's use of such things, they first disarmed their people with
-un-control propaganda. Personally, I'm all for gu- control, as long
as it applies to true g-n control - and that means disarming -
not mili-arizing - the po-ice, the criminals, and the di-tators the
world over. Have you ever seen someone g-t shot? It's horrible.
However, when you find them rounding up you and your loved ones
(separating the parents from the children) you'll soon realize the
only factor preventing a repeat performance of The Holocaust is
firea-ms. The founding fathers of America knew what they were
talking about and had some pretty good insight when they created the
constitution. It is a well-known fact that the C-A created H-I (Handg-n
Co-trol I-c) and that it is a well- funded creature of the CI-. Why does
the -IA want America's citizens disarmed? That's the real question. You
can't have a dictatorship or Martial Law if the voters are armed, can
you?
Q: Mr. Bradley, I think you are full of it.
A: That may be so, but if I am wrong, why is the gov-rnment going to such
lengths to hide them in orange groves and other 'first-glance' disguises?
Why are they tapping my phones, following me around, and then following
the people I talk to? Why are those men and women in the media who are
publicizing my research being called by people who are trying to
discredit me as some kind of nut case?
Q: Are you scared?
A: Sure. Everyday of my life. But not for my own existence. Quite
frankly, after spending two years exposing Remote Viewing for the
mind-control sham that it is, I haven't been in good graces with the
alphabet-soup agencies.
I fear that this knowledge may be too little, too late. Quite frankly,
if we don't get some public awareness on this issue and soon, we
might all be having some firsthand experience with camps. When they
come for you in Martial Law, they round up journalists who are
independent, lawyers, history professors, constitutionalists,
minorities, and anyone who won't surrender their firearms. As well,
they also have been compiling, since 1994, lists of people buying
food, weapons, clothing, etc., Again, the right question is, why the
lists? Why the camps? Why so many? Why moats and electric fences? Why
turnstiles that are color-coded for processing?
Why are there angry wh-te (I don't know why, but so far the guards we
have run into have all been whi-e males in their late twenties to
early thirties) guards carrying automatic weapons and telephoto cameras?
WHY IS THE GOV-RNMENT BUILDING THESE CAMPS AND DENYING THEIR EXISTENCE?
Q: When will you supply us with the complete list of camps?
A: Well, I'm not sure if it will ever be complete. We've been to places
where there were only two camps (El Canon City, Colorado, February 1998,
for example) and went back five months later and there were seven camps.
The camps in Colorado, by the way, are huge in every sense of the word.
These, it seems apparent, are final destination or full-service camps.
Also, I am only one man. It takes a lot of time and money (both ever on
short supply) to research these things and I usually do it when traveling
on other business. Plus, having a machine gun shoved in your face tends
to ruin your day. The camps around Utah and Arizona are the spookiest
ones we've photographed. These are very clearly camps for the undead.
All the full-service camps have rail spurs and landing strips adjacent
to them.
Q: What are the purposes of these camps?
A: Read history, what of it in print they haven't managed to dispose of
by now. Camps hold people. They aren't prisons in the normal sense of the
word. A prison has a hospital, a gym, food facilities, recreation yards,
and cells for the inmates. Camps are like stockyards for humans. Very
little shelter and a great deal of de-th.
Q: What do you think the government's reaction will be to this report of
yours?
A: What it has always been: plausible deniability, a phrase and action
created by the covert agencies of this country. First, deny the
existence.
Then, if that fails, explain it away with a limited hangout (short for
another li-, but this time with a small miter of truth.)
Q: When were these camps built?
A: By all indications, and since we've started looking at these things in
early 1998, it appears most of the larger facilities were started around
1995 and are still being modified. The smaller holding type facilities
are being rapidly built RIGHT NOW.
Q: How can I find one in my area?
A: It's rather easy, but you have to have two things: one, a mind that
isn't sleeping or daydreaming. Two, a watchful eye. That's how we did it.
We just started paying attention to our surroundings. The gov-rnment
counts on most folks not even really knowing what is around in their
own neighborhoods.
Also, start looking at the fringes of your city, as this seems to be
where they like to place them. Look first for the fences pointing in
that's the most noticeable feature about the camps that you usually
can see from the road. Near Trinidad, Colorado, many of the outlying
residents watched the construction happen and were warned off by
armed men without badges when they tried to approach the builders.
Most, if not all building, is done at night.
Q: Why were they built?
A: That's the question, isn't it?
Q: Isn't there some other explanation for them, like a new kind of cheap
prison?
A: Really? Would you want to be in a prison with no shelter, hospital,
nor any other kind of formal living arrangements and exposed to the
elements?
Listen, I wish these things didn't exist. I get sick every time I find
another one. I didn't create them, you know. The messenger isn't to
blame for the message.
Q: When do you think they will start populating these camps?
A: I don't know. But by all indications, they are being built up at a
rather startling rate. That indicates a time-line of sorts. A deadline
has been set and they are trying to get in place and readiness for
something.
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APFN FAST SEARCH: AMERICAN CONCE-TRATION CAMPS
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HERE ARE SOME OF THE RESULTS:
A m e r i c a n Concentr-tion Camps Known U.S. Relocation Centers
as of December 9, 1999
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CIVILIAN INTERNMENT CAMPS UP FOR REVIEW
http://www.thewinds.org/archive/government/camp9-97.html
American Conc-ntration Camps
http://bahaifaith.net/us_secret_prisons.htm
Tales of American "Concen-ration Camps" Perpetuate Slander By:
Richard Estrada, Associate Editor Dallas Morning News -
Sept. 26, 1996
http://www.pnorthwestbooks.com/docs/estrada.html


CHEMTRAILS - Did An Airline Mechanic Stumble

Upon The Truth? 5-17-00
http://www.sightings.com/general/stumble.htm
Ame-ican Pa-riot Fri-nds Net-ork
Contrails (Chemtrails)
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/contrails.htm
http://www.apfn.org
"In the beginning of a change, The Pa-riot is a scarce man,
brave, hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, however,
the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a pat-iot."
-- Mark Twain

Part 2 of 2.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com
Subject: Chemtrails And C-Camps. May 26, 2000.

Here is something that I hope is not true. If you are a sensitive
person and think everything is rosy then maybe you had better not
read this. I hope that you can help me by thinking positive thoughts
so that these things will not happen.

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From: T N P
Subject: REAL Bio/Chem Attacks Possible Late June

This warning from USC-ike1 is full of some very significant
information, and also some worthwhile observations and suggestions
on this whole tremendously troubling issue.

News-awk. Inc.

+++++++++++++++

From: U-CM...@aol.com

Dear Cit-zens, Pat-iots, Vet-rans, Const-tutionalists, Chr-stians,
et al:

1- Well, ladies and gentlemen, this may be "it." The "IT" we have all
been waiting for and preparing for, for the past 3 to 4 years. It is
finally upon us. As you can see from the subject title, "URGENT ALERT!
Prepare for real NBC attack by early-mid June 2000!"
2- From all indications and calculations, a real NBC attack has 75% to
95% probability of being perpetrated before the end of June 2000. That's
in about 6 to 8 weeks maximum. How can our gov-rnment be so precise in
their surety that it will happen? Well, because THEY are the ones who
will be perpetrating it and will attempt to blame it on the IS-AMIC
international terr-rists - mainly because our f-d gov feels that they
need some plausible enemy scape goat to blame the attack on. And
goodness knows, the fe-s (C--nton) have been trying to provoke the
Isl-mics into attacking us for quite sometime now, without any results,
with all the bombing of I-aq, Isl-mic Sl-vic nations, Sudan, Afganistan,
Pakistan, etc.

3- Why June and why the I-lamics???? Cuz, don't you know that there is
some IS-AMIC HOLY day in June, and the Islam-cs have been known to
perpetrate a "Jihad" or holy war on those dates? And what better "enemy"
then the evil, hated strange people from a strange land?

4- Ever wonder why our fe-eral go-ernment keeps publishing in the
mainstream press that it is NOT the case of IF there will be an NBC
attack but WHEN it will happen?

5- So how do I know all of this? Cuz I have been in contact with a
good, moral and Constit-tional fe-eral ag-ncy (you probably didn't
know that there WAS such an animal did you?) who has seen fit to
reveal the bad f-ds' plans.

6- Here is the story and all the details that lead up to this
impending NBC attack and all the documented evidence pointing to the
certainty that it WILL occur and that it WILL be in JUNE 2000.

7- First you all need to be made aware that even before (two months
exactly) our founding fathers signed our Declaration of Independence
from the EVIL King G-orge of En-land, there was a group of usurpers who
called themselves the Illum-nati, or the il-uminated, knowledgeable
ones. They are the ones who planned the New W-rld Order and the modern
version of the il-uminati is the G-NG of 300 who are the current 300
wo-ld rulers.

9- These are the individual rich and powerful bosses who control the
W-rld Bank, the Inte-national Mon-tary F-nd, the Un-ted Nations, the
Builde-bergers, the Co-ncil on Fo-eign Relations, the Fe-eral Re-erve
System, the Tri-La-eral Com-ission, G-TT, NA-TA, EU-O dollar, the
Royalty of all of the nations of Europe, and the major international
banks, the gold and diamond mines, the oil reserves and such families as
the Roo-evelts, the Van-erbuilts, the Car-egies, the Ke-nedys, the
Ki-singers, and many others.

9- Capit-lism, Com-unism, Nob-lity, Dem-cracy, Soc-alism, Global
Gover-ment (U-ited Nations) and other political entities are all working
together toward the same end.

10- Their idea is TOTAL W-RLD DOMINATION and a frightening REDUCTION in
the population of the entire world. They want to start off with a mere
25% reduction in population (read this as EX-ERMINATION and massive
GE-OCIDE) by mid to late 2001. Within four years by 2004 they hope to
achieve OVER 50% reduction in world population. And by 2020 they plan on
95% elimination of existing populations.

11- What do they expect from this world wide ext-rmination? Well, if
they can hold the total world population down to about half a billion
people maximum (500 million) they may reassess their end goal. Some of
these modern illum-nati want the figure closer to 200 million. At 6
billion population now, half a billion would be 1/12th or 92% reduction.

12- But WHY do they want to do this? Because they mistakenly believe
that the world is too crowded and too polluted and that all the natural
resources will be used up. So they want to eliminate all the people
(except for themselves and enough slaves to serve them) so that there
will be enough oil, gas, trees, animals, plants, and food for them ONLY!
This is in addition to the sense of POWER and CONTROL they will have
over LIFE and DEATH itself!

13- Now you know why Em-eror Clin--n sent Hi-lary to the Build-rberger
summit in Sweden and all the world leaders subsequently met in Portugal
-that is to discuss how their plans are coming along and what to do next
and how to overcome their obstacles - namely Pat-iots,
Cons-itutionalists, and C-ristians. Why do you think Clint-- is so
untouchable? Cuz he is ONE of them. He is their USA puppet. He can do
ANYTHING and get away with it because they are protecting him.

14- Why do you think the fed-ral gov-rnment and all the other wor-d
gov-rnments have been on a program to prevent births, perform abortions,
sterilize men and women, insert Norplant contraceptive chemical tubes in
women's arms, perform as many hysterectomies as possible, promote
homo-exuality which the practice itself prevents births, and recently
especially partial birth abortions? Not to mention proposed National
He-lth Care and the power over life and death and health the HMOs are
practicing.

15- Why do you think that the F-A, Food and Dru- Administration, has
allowed medical doctors to prescribe drugs to U.S. citizens that causes
over 170,000 deaths per year because of bad reactions to these drugs?
For the dual purpose of making money and eliminating more people. Also,
the -eds use We the People as guinea pigs to test these new drugs as a
precaution before the rich, el-te, modern day i-luminati and their
families take the drugs?

16- Why do you think Mons-nto has come up with genetically engineered
corn, wheat, oats, potatoes and literally hundreds of other foods that
are called TERMINATOR SEEDS? Farmers usually plant their crops and save
the best fruits and grain seeds from the harvest for replanting. Now
they have to buy seeds from the Genetic seed companies which will ONLY
grow one crop cuz their seeds are sterile? Well, very simple, it all
deals with greed, money, power, and control. The companies will make 100
times the amount of money because now they control the seeds which will
grow only one crop. And they can withhold the seeds in order to starve
the people out, thus, reducing the world's populations according to
their New Wo-ld Order Plans.

17- Why do you suppose there are so many strange, new, and exotic
diseases befalling the world today? Well they have all been genetically
engineered to be untreatable, thus, producing even MORE deaths. Just
think of the deadly hemorrhagic (internal bleeding) disease caused by
the laboratory produced Ebola virus.

18- What about the HIV-AI-S virus which has recently been not only
discovered, but as it turns out in the courts and law suits to determine
who discovered it, a battle between a French scientist and an American
scientist, it turns out that the American won because he proved that he
genetically engineered and invented HIV 15 years PRIOR to the
Frenchman's "discovery." HIV-A-DS causes the immune system to fail to
protect the body from disease.

19- What about the Crutchfeld-Jacob PRION protein which is the Mad Cow
Disease? There are hints now that it also was produced in the laboratory.

20- Remember the Legionaires' Respiratory Disease? It was created and
tested on the American Legion members in a conference through the air
conditioning system.

21- What about the VERY recent New York Viral Encephalitis that
attacked citizens in New York? Why do you suppose the F-I all of a
sudden showed up saying they were investigating a possible terrorist
attack using biological weapons????? Hey, they had not even determined
what the causitive organism was yet and the -eds were Johnny on the
Spot!

22- Why do you think the Gulf War veterans all came back sick with
various and diverse diseases? Well, the fe-s sold dozens of different
lethal organisms to Saddam Hussein to use against Iran!!!! so that the
Islam-cs could wipe out each other! More population reductions.

23- But Saddam used some of the biological warfare agents against U.S.
soldiers and United N-tions troops. But that is NOT how most of the vets
got the Gulf War Syndrome set of different diseases. Because even those
military personnel who did NOT go to the Gulf came down with the
diseases.

24- Here is what happened. A mixture of organisms and chemicals were
mixed in the vaccinations administered to the soldiers. This way there
would be so many different signs and symptoms that doctors could NOT
determine what the disease causing organism was and therefore would NOT
be able to treat for it. Hence, more people will d-e.

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25- But one set of doctors examined many vets and analyzed many
different chemicals and organisms and discovered at least ONE causative
organism. This is the Mycoplasm fermentans bacterium. The only problem
was that it was not a normal germ. Turns out that the Mycoplasm is the
smallest bacterium in the world, smaller than ALL bacteria but it does
NOT have a cell wall surrounding it like all the other bacteria, it has
only a membrane.

26- But there was something VERY fishy about this one. It had some type
of protein coating surrounding it and protecting it. This coating
allowed it to enter the body and NOT be detected or treated against.
After analysis, they discovered that the protein protective coating was
none other than the protein coat that surrounds and protects the
HIV-AI-S virus. Now that cannot occur in nature and it was genetically
engineered in the laboratory to create an indefensible biological
weapon. Namely, a cross between the deadly HIV-A-DS virus and a
bacterium. Certainly G-d would not create such a thing in nature.

27- How do I know all of this? Well, because it is in the medical
literature and there are people who have written books documenting it.
And I personally spoke on the phone with a Dr. G-ss in Oklahoma City who
has been treating Gulf War Victims. Only, he and his cohorts discovered
that the Mycop lasm fermentans is hightly contagious and the wives and
children contracted it from their husbands/fathers servicemen. Dr. Go-s
contracted it from his patients and transmitted it to his own wife and
children. They have it mostly under control now but this genetically
engineered biological warfare organism is still hiding somewhere in
their bodies.

28- Why do you think that Cli--on has illegally and UNConstitutionally
given over the control of nearly 50% of the land mass of America to the
United Nations through the Biosphere Habitat Act and the American Rivers
Heritage Act. This is to remove the people from the wilderness areas,
concentrate them into the urban areas where they can be monitored,
tracked, and picked up and incarc-rated when given the signal.

29- Also, the Un-ted Nations along with our e-il fed-ral gov-rnment
wants to make all of these areas OFF-LIMITS to ALL humans for a number
of years so these areas can revert back to their natural states of
former beauty - to be preserved SOLELY for the rich, eli-e, modern day
il-uminati and their families.

30- Let me get back to the impending NBC attack on civilians before I
delve into the attrocities planned for us. Why do you think Cl--nton
created all of his ille-al, UNCon-titutional Pre-idential Exe-utive
Ord-rs and Pre-idential Dir-ctive Dec-sions? This is to totally do away
with all gov-rnment as we know it and to turn over the gov-rnment to a
mi-itary orga-ization called F-MA or the Fe-eral Eme-gency Man-gement
Ag-ncy.

31- When C--nton or his successor finally declares martial law and the
Constitution is suspended, FE-A will enforce martial law with NO
recourse to the courts.

32- Why do you think Clin--on had the Con-ress appropriate $2.3
billions to create his special training program called Tra-n the
Tra-ners dealing with anti-terrorism and anti-NBC protection and
training. Notice that ONLY the poli-icians, mi-itary, law en-orcement,
and rich e-ites will have the benefit of protection from NBC. That is
because We the People are the TARGETS of the NBC chem-cal and
bio-ogical attacks!

33- Have you noticed lately, within the past 6 to 8 months that
there is a lot of news reports of the mi-itary, ma-ines, na-y, ar-y,
and ci-ilian law enf-rcement agencies going through URBAN WARFARE
training all over the Un-ted Sta-es?? Why is our mil-tary and local
law enforcement being trained to attack us ci-izens? Sure they will come
up with some excuse and other plausible deniability!!! But that is
what it is for.

34-Have you noticed most recently that the mili-ary and ci-ilian law
enforcement agencies are now training for NBC attacks?

35- Have you read the latest Pa-riot internet posts that something big
is going to happen in an unnamed period of 10 days in May? They are
training for unannounced te-rorist attacks using simulated ch-mical and
bio-ogical wa-fare agents!

36- Why just tonight I got new information that in the Southern
California area, Los Angeles, North Hollywood, Long Beach, Santa Ana,
Orange County and numerous other cities, the fe-s, and mil-tary and
local law en-orcement officials are planning to use their recent NBC
training to surprise city officials in mock attacks against our cities.
There is talk of only three cities in different states. But the
information I got tonight is that these simulated REALISTIC training
exercises will occur nationwide in from 150 to 300 cities.

37- The -eds, mi-itary and local law enfo-cement personnel have already
been trained in the detection, avoidance, analysis, decontamination, and
treatment of exposure to NBC agents and now they are going to surprise
attack the cities for their practice runs in preparation for the REAL
THING.

38- Part of these attacks will be thru aerial contrails, chemtrails,
and biotrails that you see in the skies. They have been practicing for
several years now and it is really scary how sometimes it is difficult
to determine with a cursory glance if an NBC trail is a cloud or a
biological or chemical warfare agent trail.

39- Clin--n wrote an EO. or a PDD or some type of fede-al decree that
he (the fed-ral gov-rnment) gave the mil-tary permission to perpetrate,
practice, and perform biological warfare experiments against us citizens
in order to prepare for terrorists' attacks. Naturally ONLY citizens
will be attacked but NOT our gover-ment.

40- Cl--nton has announced to the United States citizens and to the
world that there are 120 major cities in the US that are vulnerable to
NBC attacks and I have sent out previously the list of cities that
terro--ts (he) plans to attack.

41- Cli--on also authorized real live sub-lethal bacterial and viral
organisms to be used in these practice and trial attacks against us
citizens. That is why all over the nation there have been 100s and 1000s
of people, especially seniors and very small children to get sick and
many have died from these STRANGE flu-like symptoms that the doctors
can't determine what the causitive organism is.

42- Here over the Los Angeles and Southern California areas there have
been hundreds upon hundreds of chem-biotrail tests over the past year.
Ever notice how the trails - if they were true condensation trails from
the plane's engines and exhaust which don't even begin until over 30,000
feet altitude, that they are down to 10,000 feet? Water vapor cannot
form vapor trails at 10,000 feet. The biotrails criss-cross each other
and they are tracked by satellite to determine their movements and
dispersion.

43- Last year and the year before I was able to go online and download
all the information from the U.S. Army Chemical warfare agency about
chemical and biological warfare and protection from it and treatment of
it. Now the websites don't exist and those that do have all mention of
this information removed or blocked and NOT PERMITTED to be seen by mere
citizens.

44- Here is what the U.S. A-my Che-ical and Bio-ogical Warfare Agency
had to say about ter-orism and NBC attacks:

a- It costs $2,000.00 per square kilometer to annihilate all life
within the area by using nuclear and radiological weapons. OBTW why do
you think Clin--n authorized the U.S. A-my to attack I-aq with spent
uranium bullets, artillery shells and such? That's cuz not only are these
projectiles VERY heavy and VERY penetrating, but when they explode they
vaporize into dust. People breathe in the dust and get radiation
poisoning and radiation sickness. The U.S. predicted that there would be
a minimum of 100,000 NEW cases of leukemia in the children in Iraq from
the uranium weapons. And sure enough the mainstream press verified that
many of the children in Iraq strangely have leukemia and the "good"
Americans would do their best to be humanitarian and try to treat some
of these children. Of couse no mention was made that WE caused their
leukemia by using the spent uranium artillery!!!!

And we also used spent uranium in Kosovo. Now the children there are
coming down with leukemia. One bad result is that the U.S. also made the
shells and protective armor of our tanks out of spent uranium because it
can resist shellings better. But when a shell would hit our tanks the
metal would get hot and vaporize and our service men would inhale the
fumes and now they are getting radiation sickness.

A true nuclear warhead could do a lot of damage to U.S. civilian homes
and cities too.

b- It costs $800.00 per square kilometer to annihilate all life from
that area if chemical warfare is used against We the People.

c- But here's the clincher: It only costs $1.00 per square kilometer to
wipe out all people in that area if they use biological warfare agents.
But rather than dying instantly or in a few hours, the biological agents
take longer and take up to a week to k-ll their victims (us).

45- And wonder of all wonders, Clin--n even joked about it in his
speeches and in the news reports by saying that biological warfare
agents are like the gift that keeps on giving. Because when one citizen
falls victim to the organisms of the biological warfare they can travel
for a while and spread the diseases all over the nation.

46- So the feds plan on spraying us and sitting back for a few days
to a week or so, letting us get sick and d-e and then they will come
in and mop up and burn all our bodies and then take over the cities,
have them all to themselves, and take all our possessions. Probably
they will turn over much of the property to new sets of foreign
immigrants and make them low paid slaves in this land of opportunity.

47- So now what will be happening? Well, for 10 days in May Cl--ton has
authorized our military and local law enforcement agencies to practice
simulated NBC attacks upon numerous cities. Again, I figure from all the
informants I have that it will NOT be the three cities mentioned
recently but from 150 to 300 cities nationwide.

48- But still not to worry as these are NOT the real thing. But here is

49- Sometime in June, probably the second or third week, because our
illust--ous leads will be at another Bui-derberger meeting during the
first week, the f-ds plan on a biological te-rorist attack against us
citizens. There will be at least one city involved and possibly half a
dozen and up to several dozen cities that will get hit. But again, I am
only 75% to 95% sure that this will happen during these dates. This is
because the -eds have been known to back off if they meet prior
resistance and if the victims find out about it and balk or threaten
civil war against the politicians. Of course that should not bother the
fe-s because they want as much de-th to occur as possible anyway to
reduce the population.

USCMike1

John F. Winston

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I think that this lady could get a job as an actress on the
Star Trek series. Just think how much they could save on makeup.

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Question: Have you a tail like normal reptiles?

Answer: Do you see one? No, we have no visible tail. If you look at our
skeleton, there is only a small rounded bone at the end of our spine
behind the pelvis. This is a useless rudiment of the tail of our
ancestors, but it is not visible from the outside. Oh, our embryos have
tails during the first months of development, but these tails disappear
before they were born. A tail makes only sense for a primitive species
which tries to walk on two legs and must held the balance with the tail,
but our skeleton had changed during evolution and our spine is nearly in
the same shape as yours, so we need no tail to stay on two feet.

Question: You said that you were born in a different way to us. Do you
lay eggs?

Answer: Yes, but not like your birds or primitive reptiles. Actually,
the embryo grows in a protein liquid inside the mothers womb, but there
is also an egg-shaped but very thin chalk hull around it, that fills the
whole womb. The embryo inside this hull is completely apart from the
mothers body and it has every substance it needs to develop inside this
chalk hull. There is also a cord like your navel cord which is connected
to a point hidden behind the backplates.
When the baby is going to be born, the whole egg is pressed through the
va-ina covered in a sl-my protein substance and the baby came out of
this soft egg after some minutes. These two horns on our middle fingers
were instinctively used from babies to break through the chalk hull to
take their first breath. Our young are not so large as your babies when
they were born, they are between 30 and 35 of your centimetres tall, the
egg is around 40 centimetres tall (this is because our vag-na is smaller
then a human one) but we grow to a normal size of 1,60 to 1,80 metres.

Question: What about your body temperature? You've said that you enjoy
to lay in the sun. What effect have this to your organism?

Answer: We are no mammals and as reptiles our body temperature depends
on the temperature of our surrounding. If you touch my hand you will
maybe feel that it is colder then yours, because our normal body
temperature is around 30 to 33 degree celsius. If we sit in the sun
(especially na-ed and with our row of small backplates in the sun) our
body temperature can rise for 8 or 9 degrees within minutes. This rise
causes a production of many enzymes and hormones in our body, our heart
and brain and every organ becomes more active and we feel then very very
good.
You humans only enjoy to be in the sun but for us it is the greatest
pleasure you can imagine (maybe like your se-ual excitement.) We also
enjoy to swim in very warm water or other liquids to rise our body
temperature. If we are for some hours in the shadow, our temperature
goes back to 30 to 33 degrees. This can cause no harm to us, but we feel
much better in the sun. We have artificial sun-rooms in the underground
but this is not the same for us like the real sun.

Question: What do you eat?

Answer: Generally various things like you: flesh, fruit, vegetables,
special kinds of fungus (from subterranean farms) and other things. We
can also eat and digest some substances which are poisonous for you.
The main difference between you and us is, that we must eat flesh,
because our body needs the proteins. We can't live completely vegetarian
like your kind because our digestion would stop working and we would
die after some weeks or maybe months without flesh. Many of us eat raw
flesh or other things which would be disgusting for you. Personally, I
prefer cooked flesh and surface fruits like apples or oranges.
Question: Can you tell me something about the natural history and
evolution of your species? How old is your species? Have you evolved
from primitive reptiles as mankind have evolved from apes?

Answer: Oh, this is a very long and complex story and it sounds
certainly unbelievable to you, but it's the truth. I will try to explain
it in short. Around 65 million years ago, many of our unadvanced
ancestors from the dinosaur race died in a great global cataclysm. The
reason for this destruction was not a natural disaster - an asteroid
impact as your scientists believe falsely - but a war between two enemy
alien groups that took mainly place in the orbit and high atmosphere of
your planet.
According to our limited knowledge about the early days this global war
was the first alien war on planet earth but it was definitely not the
last (and a future war is coming soon, while a "cold war" - as you call
it - between alien groups is ongoing since the last 73 years on your
planet.)
The opponents in this 65 million year old war were two advanced alien
species, whose both names are again not pronounceable for your tongues.
I'm able to say them but it would hurt your ear if I tell you the names
in their original way. One race was humanoid like your species (but much
older) and was from this universe, from a solar system in the star
constellation you call "Procyon" today in your maps. The other species -
about which we know not so much - was a reptilian species, but they
have nothing to do with our own species, because we have evolved from
local saurians without exterior influence (except the successful
manipulation of our own genes by us. More about that later.)
The advanced reptilian species came not from this universe but from a -
well, how should I explain it to you. Your scientists have not really
understand the true nature of the universe, because your illogical mind
is not able to see the easiest things and relies on wrong mathematics
and numbers. This is part of the genetic programming of your kind to
which I will come later. Let me say, that you are nearly as far away
from the understanding of the universe as you were 500 years ago.
To use a term you will maybe understand: the other species came not from
this universe but from another "bubble" in the foam of the omniverse.
You would call it maybe another dimension, but this is not the right
word to describe it correctly (by the way, the term dimension is
generally wrong in the way you understand it.)
The fact you should remember is, that advanced species are able to
"walk" between bubbles by use of - as you would call it - quantum
technology and sometimes in special ways only by use of their mind (my
own species had also advanced mental abilities in comparison to your
species, but we are not able to do the matterstring/bubble changing
without technology, but other species active on this planet are able and
this looks to you like magic as it had to your ancestors.)

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Back to our own history: the first species (the humanoids) had reached
Earth around 150 years before the reptilians and they built some
colonies on the former continents. There was a large colony on the
continent you call "Antarctica" today and another one in the continent
you call "Asia" today. These people lived together with animal-like
saurians on the planet without problems.
When the advanced reptilan species arrived in this system, the humanoid
colonists from "Procyon" tried to communicate peacefully, but they were
not successful and a global war started within months. You must
understand that both species were interested in this young planet not
for his biology and undeveloped species, but for only one reason: raw
material, especially copper.

With some unstable materials - able to produce new stable elements if
you induce a high electromagnetic field in the right angle with a high
nuclear radiation field to produce an over-crossing of fluctuating
fields. The fusion of copper with other elements in such a
magnetic/radiaton field-chamber can produce a force field of special
nature that is very useful for various technological tasks (but the base
for this is an extremely complex formula you are not able to discover
because of the restrictions of your simple mind.)
Both species wanted to have the copper of Planet Earth and for this
reason, they fought a not very long war in space and orbit. The humanoid
species seemed to be successful during the first time, but in a last
battle the reptilians decided to use a mighty experimental weapon - a
special kind of fusion bomb which should destroy the life forms on the
planet but should not harm the valuable raw materials and the copper.
The bomb was fired from space and detonated at a point of your planet
you call "Middle America" today.
As it detonated in the ocean, it produced an unpredictable fusion with
hydrogen and the effect was much stronger then the reptilians had
expected. A deadly radiaton, an over-production of fusion-oxygen, a
fall-out of different elements and a "nuclear winter" for nearly 200
years were the result.
Most of the humanoids were killed and the reptilians lost their
interest on the planet after some years for (even for us) unknown
reasons - maybe because of the radiation.
Planet Earth was on its own again and the animals on the surface died.
By the way, one result of the fusion bomb was the fall-out of different
elements and materials created in the burning process and one of those
materials was Iridium. Your human scientists today see the Iridiu
concentration in the ground as an evidence for an asteroid impact that
killed the dinosaurs. That is not true, but how should you know that?
Well, most of the dinosaurs died (not all in the detonation but in the
bad things which came after the war, especially in the nuclear winter
and in the fall-out.) Nearly all dinosaurs and reptilians were dead
within the next 20 years. Some of them - especially those in the oceans
- were able to survive for the next 200 to 300 years even in this
changed world, but these species also died, because the climate had
changed.
The nuclear winter ended after 200 years, but it was colder on earth
then before. Despite the cataclysm, some species were able to survive:
fish (like the sharks), birds, little creepy mammals (your ancestors),
various reptiles like crocodils...and there was a special kind of small
but advanced dinosaurs which had developed together with the last large
animal-reptilians like the species you call Tyrannosaurus.

Part 3.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com

John F. Winston

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Subject: Web Site Containing My Postings. May 29, 2000.

Here is a web site that is operated by an internet friend of
mine.

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From: "Peter P." <p...@primenet.com>
Subject: file added to FTP site
John,
FYI: I just added the interview with a reptilian female (combining
Parts 1 & 2 into a single file) to the 'Winston Archive' on my FTP
file site. At:
ftp://ftp.primenet.com/users/p/ptp/winston.archive/winston.
reptilian-female
Between my modem dying, and then being out of town for a couple of
weeks,
I was out of touch with the Internet world for about 2 months. Just
getting back into the swing of things in the last week or so.
Now that I'm back, I hope to add files more regularly.

John Winston. john...@mlode.com

John F. Winston

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Subject: Information About Rael. May 31, 2000.

In the past I have mentioned a person by the name of Rael. He
claims to represent some space people who are trying to come back to
the Earth. Here is more information about Rael.

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From: L
Subject: How Long Have Humans Been On Earth? Part 2 of 2.
Hello John,
Thank you for all these very interesting inoformations.
(JW Your welcome.)

Do you know the third theory about origins of life on earth ?
UFO - the final message given by extraterrestrials.
They created humanity scientifically in their laboratories, thanks
to DNA.

Traces of this epic masterpiece can be found not only in the
b-ble, but in the ancient texts of many cultures. However in the
original bi-le it does not say "G-d" but "ELOHIM" which in ancient
hebrew means "those who came from the sky". ELOHIM is a plural word,
the singular being "ELOHA".

It was they who sent all the PROPHETS such as Moses, Je--s and
Mohammed to progressively educate humanity with a message adapted to
the level of understanding of each age.

Now that we are ourselves synthesizing DNA and so are scientifically
advanced enough to understand our origins, they wish us to prepare an
EMBASSY for them where thy can meet with us, our governments and the
media-without favoring one country or ideology above another.

To know more, go on the website www.rael.org

What is you thinking about this ?

(JW I'm familiar with all that you say. Let's hope the space
people who have contacted Rael have learned something in the last
thousands of year and won't be kicking people around like they did in
the past.)

Thank you and best regards

L
http://www.rakl.org
http://www.ufoland.com
http://www.clonaid.com
http://www.subversions.com

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John Winston. John...@mlode.com

John F. Winston

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Subject: Is There Life On Venus? Part 2. June 2, 2000.

This part tells how Venus looks.

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DESCRIPTION OF VENUS

The Canadian scientist was then given a grand tour of the planet Venus.
The very atmosphere was permeated with an undercurrent of unalloyed
wonder and joy. A palpable bliss of unendurable pleasure infinitely
prolonged seemed to wash over his soul, and his heart fell prey to the
Star of Love. How had he come to be transported to this mystical Utopia,
this Kingdom of the G-ds? He found himself filled with awe as his spirit
took wing out across the reaches of this miraculous Morning Star. His
senses reeling, he had to steady himself against an immense pillar of
polished basalt. A spectacular waterfall cascaded forth from sheer ebony
cliffs towering up into the sky. The rims were of gossamer foam, yet the
central lake was a perfect mirror, appearing like a gorgeous dome of
multi-colored glass. An other-worldly glow of reflected light swirled
over the surface, transforming it into a breathtaking dream of myriad
rainbow hues. This dazzling palette of iridescent colors blended into a
remarkable medley of green, rose, and violet glitterings. The enchanting
vision of grandeur was framed by a broad band of emerald-green grass.
Here and there stretched graceful palms whose bejeweled fronds glistened
with diamond-spray droplets.

In the Venusian sky above, there wafted a magnificent transparent
crystal orb. It appeared to be an enormous soap bubble of scintillating
and swirling polychrome. Along the craft's equator, shone a golden band,
and there were gold projections at its poles. Punctuating the gilded
strip were "porthole" viewing windows inset and equidistantly arranged.
(Note: Onec described travel in these bubble-craft in her book, "From
Venus I Came").

In the distance lay the gently rolling countryside of a verdant,
manicured park. Snow-capped mountain peaks plummeted steeply down into a
luscious valley, whose picturesque river created an exquisite and
strangely compelling effect. The stunning panorama was a banquet for the
senses that beckoned the viewer to enter the inviting Shangri-La.
Mathews later encountered a crystalline Venusian city, and he was
thrilled beyond belief. The buildings roofs were prismatic-crystal-
ellipsoids set atop circular colonnades of marble pillars. Between the
buildings lay jungles of vegetative growth, interspersed with languid
reflecting pools. Above sparkling crystal structures were suspended the
fantastic, transparent, multi-colored airships. Atop the basalt columns,
bordering a translucent stream, groups of Venusians stood, gracing the
sheer cliffs with their stately forms. Upon an elevated tier stood a
gargantuan structure displaying a massive crystal-prismatic-dome, used
as a communal gathering place for the populace.

There stretched an expansively broad avenue bordered with stately palms
leading up to a vast Hall of Assembly. It was a great amphitheater
surrounded by tier upon tier of polished marble seating. A circular body
of swirling multi-colored liquid floated overhead in mid-air so that you
could walk beneath it.

In the Palace of Truth, Venusians explained how they had transformed
their planet into a living Eden of agricultural abundance, climatic
control, prevention of natural disasters, all of which afforded a life
of perfect comfort.

The interior of one particular hovering globe-spacecraft showed various
layered sections, the lowest containing 24 scout craft, ground vehicles,
and other equipment. The second level contained gardens, living areas,
recreational rooms, study areas, and a meeting hall. The floor surfaces
consisted of a pliant plastic-like substance. Adorning the walls were
beautiful murals. The Venusians grew their fruits and vegetables fresh
on their ship using solar energy. A see-through wall afforded a
panoramic, sweeping view of space to the travelers.

JULY 4th, 1952-VENUSIAN UFO AIRSHOW
WASHINGTON, DC FLYOVER

The "world management team" of corporate giants and
their puppet governments have squandered billions of
tax dollars conducting their unrelenting disinformation
campaigns. They have been so successful in
their "smoke and mirrors" agenda, that the Venusians
realized that they had to find another method to prove
their presence. On July 4th "Independence Day" 1952,
they deployed their famous UFO airshow over
Washington DC. They performed a public demonstration for the
entire world to see. Their success was evidenced by the
plethora of dramatic 6:00 PM national television news
broadcasts and of international headlines and press
releases. A near hysteria of media frenzy resulted as they
reported how saucers had buzzed the US President, White
House, and the Pen-agon! That landmark occurrence was
widely believed by the public until -J-12 hired the
prominent astronomer Me-zel to fabricate a convincing hoax
explaining it all away as "temperature inversion/atmospheric
optical illusions" caused by light reflecting off cloud
layers.

Most uninformed Americans swallowed this story. All
people really needed to do to learn the truth was to go
to any public library and compare a photo of a temperature
inversion to that of a news clipping of the UFO's
flying in triangular formations, to see the great difference.
And any intelligent investigator had only to ask the
question, "Why did the Air Fo-ce panic and send up jet
fighter aircraft to chase and try to intercept a harmless
temperature inversion?" Some did question the official
"temperature inversion/atmospheric optical illusion"
explanation, asking, "How can a temperature inversion
appear to fly in perfect triangular formation at supersonic
speeds, dodge and out-maneuver chasing jets, or make 90
degree high speed maneuvers?" Having failed to convince
serious investigators with their dubious "explanations,"
the ensuing US official rebuttal devolved into an even
more pathetic charade of blatant deception. There followed
a "campaign of confusion" of labeling UFO bell-shaped
saucer craft with domes and portholes with the following
appellations: swamp gas, meteorites, the planet Venus,
birds that glow, fireflies, and other vapid nonsense. Their
agenda of unrelenting ridicule served to appease all but
the intrepid few who had fortified themselves with factual
information. Despite the widely circulated reports of
the Venusians' having given several dozen Americans
first-hand proof of their existence, (including a few famous
scientists), the short-sighted, brainwashed public
dutifully "fell into line" with their governments' propaganda
machine. The average man and woman readily "jumped
on the bandwagon," adding their derisive voices to the
panoply of UFO critics, declaring the entire UFO phenomena a
ridiculous fiasco. But while decrying the "ludicrous claims" of
those "cockeyed contactees, the public unwittingly "threw out
the baby along with the bath water," foolishly ignoring the
Venusians' offers of assistance. The prevailing 1950's postwar
debacle of McCarthy-era-witch-hunt-repression
further served to inhibit most leading US scientists' public
admonitions of corrupt government policies. This draconian
styled US gove-nment "crackdown" on freedom of thought,
served to inhibit the more enlightened scientists from
speaking out in public for fear of government reprisals
of career-ruining character defamation.

One may ask, "Why don't beings from Venus just land
on the White House Lawn?" According to Venusians,
their attempts to land in US cities have resulted in
Earthlings attempting to kill and/or capture them and their
craft by shooting them down, in hopes of stealing their
technology. They characterize Earth "locals" as too hostile,
unfriendly, and dangerous, as typified in the scene
from the early 1950's film, "This Island Earth," where the
e.t. emissary from the stars, (portrayed by actor Michael
Rene'), was shot and wounded by a nervous, "trigger happy"
G.I. (Would YOU want to land among a huge tribe of savage-
cannibal headhunters in the Amazon, who regard you no-
thing more than a tasty meal and a shrunken head? Despite
your intention to offer them assistance, the natives
would likely shoot their darts first and ask
questions later). Sure, Venusians could defend themselves
with their superior weaponry, but they say that they are
absolutely non-violent and would prefer to observe and
help from a distance than to fight. Most of them have no
karma, therefore engaging in violence would only load
them down with difficulties to be expatiated here, thereby
delaying their long-term spiritual progress. These gentle and wise
beings believe in solving problems with love, not war.
(When their spirits are embodied in human forms on the
3-D plane, they indeed can be murdered by our Earth
weapons). As a consequence, they decided that they needed
to perform a sensational display for the public in order
to attract widespread attention to their important message
for Earths' humanity, saying:

"We implore Earths' multitudes to demand that their
respective governments ban all nuclear weapons, outlaw
war, eliminate all pollution, and bring peace on Earth
as we Venusians have already done on our home planet."

The Earths' governments failed to heed their advice...so the
Venusians made plans to bypass the "figure head" lackeys
of the "world management team," and take their case
directly to the public. No longer do they say, "Take me to your
leader," but rather, "Here we are, one-on-one, inviting you
to join the Galactic Family of Civilized Worlds."

GEORGE ADAMSKI-VENUSIAN/EARTH LIAISON

If you were a Venusian, what would be YOUR criteria for
selecting a human to speak on your behalf? Would you
search for someone with the profile of a fanatical cultist,
a religious zealot or a corrupt government bureaucrat
dependent on political connections and corporate backers?
Or would you rather consider someone who, while lacking
professional credentials, had nonetheless proved themselves
an honest, compassionate, organized, coherent and
scholarly person? If you were able to empathize with the
progressive Venusian point-of-view, then the candidates'
qualifications for such an important ambassadorial
mission would be readily apparent.

Part 2.

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John F. Winston

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Subject: Is There Life On Venus? Correction. June 2, 2000.

Here is a mistake I made in the Venus material.

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From: M E
Subject: "Right Actor, Wrong Movie"
Greetings John,
In the article, "Is There Life on Venus?" Part 2, the following
passage mentions Michael Rene in one of my favorite films. The movie
however, was, "The Day The Earth Stood Still." You probably know this
already. "This Island Earth" stared Jeff Morrow as the friendly
alien. Rex Harris was one of the scientist. I don't recall the name
of the actress who played the role of a scientist.
Take Care.
Peace,
M

JW Yes you are right. I should have known that was wrong when I
saw it.

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Subject: Is There Life On Venus? Part 3 of 3. June 2, 2000.

This part deals with George Adamski. It's pretty hard to
get anyone to say anything good about him because his name
has been dragged through the mud so much. He wasn't perfect
and made some mistakes but he did, in my opinion tell what he
thought was the truth about the people in the flying saucers.

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George Adamski, a Mount Palomar amateur astronomer,
was a sincere UFO investigator. He spent months and years
staying up all night on Mount Palomar, attempting to
capture photographic images of UFO's. He slept by day and
scanned the night sky for saucers with his telescope. In the
early 1950's he began to see mysterious lights that, over the
months, drew closer and appeared brighter. Undaunted,
Adamski eventually took some UFO photographs that were
so stunning that they alarmed the US Pe-tagon. There were
unambiguous close-up daylight shots of metallic saucer-
shaped craft showing domes, portholes and underside
details. There were also photographs of cigar-shaped
mother ships unloading scout craft. These photographs
showed clearly defined objects which bore absolutely no
resemblance to the purported "official explanations" of
weather balloons, meteors, glowing birds, swamp gas,
ball lightning, earthquake lights, plasma, stars, planets,
aircraft lights, jet or rocket exhaust, or "sun-dogs,"
proffered by Project Bluebook, (the Air For-e public UFO
investigation, which really was a public DISinformation
agency), according to its' former scientific director Dr. J.
Allen Hynek. These photos were so well defined that the
Air F-rce agency was initially unsuccessful at finding a
substitute explanation for them.

Adamski claimed that he was contacted telepathically by
UFO pilots who sent him on a mission to prove the reality
of the Venusians' presence and then was to relay their
message to the planet Earth. Adamski dutifully gathered
five witnesses, including Dr. George Hunt Williamson, and
together they proceeded to the Mojave Desert on a quest
for Venusian UFO evidence. When he and his daring
companions observed a mother ship off in the distance, (near
Desert Center, California), they proceeded in that direction.
They drove along a dirt road and happened upon a scout
craft which had just landed. There, they met a handsome,
youthful appearing Venusian man with shoulder-length
blonde hair. Adamski described him thusly, "The beauty
of his form surpassed anything I had ever seen. And the
pleasantness of his face freed me of all thought of my
personal self. I felt like a little child in the presence of one
with great wisdom and much love. For from him was
radiating a feeling of infinite understanding and kindness,
with a supreme humility."

The pilot of the saucer also wore some strange shoes who's
soles left curious hieroglyphic markings in the desert sands.
Dr. George Hunt Williamson made plaster castings of these
glyphs, ( which explorers also found on ancient ruins hidden
deep in the Amazon jungle in the 1970's). The hieroglyphics
reportedly were the "key to the cosmos," and outlined how
to build an anti-gravity electromagnetic propulsion system
for an interplanetary spacecraft. Based on the Four Primary
Forces of the Universe, the "keys" are the foundation of all
matter and energy, and the Unified Field Theory of Einstein.
These glyph-symbols were said to be identical to the 4-D
(fourth-dimensional) diagrams displayed in the Temple of
Higher Learning located in the capital city of Venus.

The Venusian reportedly told Adamski to warn the public
that atomic energy pollution was far more dangerous than
the public was lead to believe, and that all nuclear testing
should be banned. Adamski was also given other messages
concerning peace on Earth and universal love, etc.

After conducting tests of Adamski's photographs, Kodak
technicians, concluded that his photos showed actual
"nuts-and-bolts" physical objects hovering at distances
which matched those described by Adamski. These experts
could not find any evidence of fraud whatsoever. Of course,
the CF-MJ-12 controlled national wire services success-
fully suppressed that particular finding. Adamski also took
16 mm. footage of the saucers maneuvering at close range,
whereupon experts in trick photography, (at Walt Disney
Studios), were unable to detect any evidence of deception.
In the hopes of providing further indisputable Venusian
UFO evidence, the Venusian handed Adamski, (who, along
with the other eye-witnesses had each signed legal affidavits
attesting to this fact), an extraterrestrial Venusian metallic
sample, that Earth metallurgists were unable to successfully
identify, (and, unfortunately, it was never seen again after
it was confiscated by the US mil-tary),

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Subject: Female Reptilian. Part 5. June 7, 2000.

This part talks about the developement of humans on this Earth.

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Question: You mentioned earlier that you use the name "Lacerta" when
you are among humans and that you enjoy it to be in the real sun on the
surface of earth. But how can you be among humans? You don't look like
us, so anyone will see that you belong to another species. Why have
nobody seen and described a being like you if your kind lives already
since our "creation" together with us on the same planet. Can you
explain that to me?
Answer: First, my kind was of course seen and described (and
worshipped) many times in your primitive past, for example in your
religious writings like your Chri-tian Bi-le. You can find descriptions
and even simple drawings of us for also in the southern part of the
American continent on various temples. So-called "wise" men from India
and from the Asian mountains have described our species many times in
writings, together with other "wise" men from the African continent.
I think we are the most mentioned non-human species (maybe beside the
"Ilojiim") in your history. If you don't believe me, have a look at your
history and you will see the truth in my words. Your "great" scientists
called the belief in us "superstition" and "religion" and today's
"intelligent" humans have forgotten our presence on the surface in the
past.
Furthermore, our species is seen even today sometimes from human
witnesses in its original shape on earth or in our surface-near entries
and tunnel systems, but fortunately you and your media didn't take the
reports of such "crazies" serious (that's good for us and that's the
reason why we allow those people to see us as we really are.)
Some of my species are also in direct contact with human scientists and
politicians from the surface, but this is top-secret - as you would call
it - and nobody of your public knows anything about it (the matter of
this meetings is generally the upcoming war with and between the alien
species and our assistance in this war). But there is also another
explanation, why we can walk among you and why you are not able to
recognize us: mimicry.
The following may again sound unbelievable and even shocking to you,
but as you have asked I will explain it. I have told you before, that we
have more advanced mental abilities then your species and with "more
advanced" I mean, that we are able to use telepathy and telekinesis from
our birth on (in fact, mother and new-born child communicate generally
with telepathy during the first months) without special training as you
need it to activate these sleeping parts of your brain.
The structure of our brain is a little bit different to yours and our
hypophyse is larger and more active then yours - especially when we are
in sunlight. Our own abilities are very strong in comparison to yours,
but weak in comparison to the "matterstring/bubble" mind forces of some
of the alien species on this planet. I was never very good in that mind
things, but we all have these primary abilities and can use them for
example for our protection or even for attack.
When we are on the surface and we meet human beings (even a large group
of them - this makes no difference. All of your minds are like one mind)
we are able to "touch" their mind and induce them via telepathy the
command "See us as one of your kind" and the weak human mind will accept
this order without revulsion and they will see us (despite our reptilian
look) as normal humans. I've done this many times and you weak humans
generally see me as an attractive brown-haired woman, because I have
created this special "mimicry image" in my mind years ago and I can
induce it into your minds without problems. I've needed some time at the
beginning to learn the use of the mimicry correctly, but then it worked
nearly automatically and I can even walk among a group of yours and
nobody will recognize what I am.
There is a simple switch ("See us as we really are / See us as we want
you to see us") in your consciousness which was placed there from the
"Ilojiim" when they created your kind and we can use this switch to
convince you that you see humans when you look at us (other aliens use
this switch, too). It is easier as you think. When there are meetings
between your kind and aliens which seem to look exactly like yours,
these aliens have used that switch and some of the meetings with
man-like aliens can be also explained with meetings with my kind.) When
I met E.F. the first time, he saw me also as a normal human woman and I
remember that he was very frightened and shocked when I revealed him my
real appearance.
Question: Do you mean, that you can really make me belief that I talk
now with an attractive brown-haired human woman instead of a reptilian
being like you?
Answer: Probably, but I don't think so in your special case. When
someone expects to see a human woman instead of me, I can do it without
problems with his mind (even with large groups) because nobody expects
to see a reptile woman. But I have allowed your mind to see me in my
original appearance from our first meeting on and I have never induced
something into your mind, so you have already realized that I'm not
human. If I would now try to change this, it would probably led to an
absolute confusion or to unconsciousness and I don't want to harm you.
As I have said I'm not very good in these things.
Question: That's very scary. Can you kill with that abilities?
Answer: Yes, but it's forbidden. This means not that it was not done in
previous times.
Question: Have both se-es this abilities?
Answer: Yes.
Question: What about photos? How do you appear on photos?
Answer: This is a silly question. I appear on photos as a reptile
being, because I can't have influence on the photo or on the camera
itself but only on the photographers mind. If he or she would develop
the film and show the photo to others, they would see me in my
original shape. That's the reason why it is forbidden for our kind to
be filmed or photographed and we must avoid every camera on the
surface (that is very difficult and we were filmed sometimes in the
past without our knowledge, especially from certain of your
governments and secret agencies.)


Question: What other commands can your kind induce into our minds.
Something like "Serve us" or "Obey"?
Answer: This is again a strange question. We are not your enemy
(most of us not) so why should we do this? To answer your question:
it depends on the strength of the human mind and on the the strength
of the sending reptilian. There is no "Serve us" or "Serve me"
switch in your mind, so such a command is much more difficult to
induce.

If the human mind and consciousness is weak and the reptilian
inducer is experienced in these things and was some hours in the

sun before he or she tries to do it, then it could probably work
for a certain time.
There are secret teachings about such things, but I've never learned
anything about it. I use my primary abilities for mimicry and for
communication with my own kind and sometimes for other private things,

but I've never used it to harm humans or their mind. I would appreciate


it if we can end with this topic here.
Question: A last question: you've said earlier, that you can hide your
UFOs? Do you use the same abilities to do this?
Answer: Yes, but on a technical base. There is a powerful device inside
each craft which is able to send an artificial signal to your minds to
convince you, that you see either nothing but only the sky or that you
see normal aircraft like planes instead of our ships. This isn't used
very often, because we avoid human public when we move in the
atmosphere. If you are able to see our "UFOs" it means that the device

is either defect or deactivated for some reason.

The camouflage effect didn't work on photos - to answer this possible
question of you already in advance - but why should someone make a photo
of the sky when he could not see anything unusual there. By the way,
most of the surface-near entry points to our tunnels are also hidden
with such a device and your kind will generally see only normal cave
walls instead of the door. That's one reason why I've said that I doubt
that you will be able to find such a secret door to our world (but it

have happened a few times in the past.)


Question: Back to your and our own history. You've mentioned the race
of the "Illojiim" who have created our human race. From where did they
come and how did they look like? What had exactly happened when they
arrived? Are they our "G-d"?
Answer: The "Illojiim" came from this universe, from the solar system
you call "Aldebaran" in your maps. They were a very tall humanoid

species whit usually blonde hairs and a very white skin (they avoided


the sunlight, because it hurt their skin and their eyes. This was
absolutely unbelievable for a sun-loving species like us).
They seemed to be intelligent and peaceful at the beginning and we
started a more or less friendly communication with them, but later they
showed their real intentions and plans: they wanted to evolve the apes
to a new breed and we were a disturbing factor for them on their new zoo
planet.
At first, they caught around 10,000 or maybe even 20,000 of your simian
ancestors and they left the planet for some hundred years. When they
returned, they brought your (now more human) ancestors back. Then they
left Earth again for some thousands of years and the primitive

pre-humans lived together with us without major problems (they were just
afraid of our aircraft and technology). The "Illojiim" had taught their


mind and enhanced their brain and their body structure and they were now
able to use tools and fire.
The "Illojiim" returned within 23,000 years seven times and accelerated
the evolution speed of certain of your kind. You must understand, that
you are not the first human civilization on the planet. The first
advanced humans (who lived at the same time with less-developed
pre-humans, because the "Illojiim" had experimented with different
speeds and stages of evolution) with technology and speech existed
around 700,000 years ago on this planet (your scientists have not

understand this, because they've found only the bones of the pre-humans


and some primitive cave drawings showing advanced humans and flying
devices.)

JW Just remember that many different races have been seeded to Earth.
The Luciferians were brought here when the Planet Maldek blew up.
The Cherokee Ameican Indians came from underground and before that
they were from the Pleiades. We have people living on Earth who are
from Venus and many other places. Humans probably evoled on Lyra.

Part 5.

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