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The Rev. Dr. Lt. Chaos Israel

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Dec 19, 2009, 1:14:19 PM12/19/09
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So /tg/ I was watching some samurai movies and realised that we don't
have an equivilent genre for Europeans. Japs have their samurai,
americans have cowboys, but over here despite the amzing richness of
european history we don't seem to have the same sort of settings for
masterless men, hired swords and small towns in need of drifters to
help get rid of those pesky bandits/yakuza/cattle barons. I thought it
was time we fixed that.

/tg/ I ask for your help to think of great time periods and locations
for these same sort of adventures to play out.

For example I'd love to see a story set in France/Italy in 1361. The
countryside is awash with bandits, mercenaries and disbanded armies in
the middle of the 100 years war. The plague of the grey death stalks
the land, flagellents whip up crowds into religious frenzies, whilst
heretical sects openly defy the all powerful church. And as the world
seems to crumble, an English archer and a disgraced French knight are
hired by a mysterious nun to excort her through the madness on a
pilgrimage to Rome.

Any thoughts for other good settings for cowboy/ronin like adventures?

RastaBillyBob

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Dec 19, 2009, 2:02:36 PM12/19/09
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Paladin, Knight Errant.

Rev. Richard Skull

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Dec 19, 2009, 2:39:13 PM12/19/09
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They have The Inquisition
Knights in Armor
Crusaders
Cavaliers and round-heads
Roman Legions
And of course Nazi's

Rev. Richard Skull

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Dec 19, 2009, 2:41:13 PM12/19/09
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<chaos_isr...@antisocial.com> wrote:

Of course, the Europeans are not so one dimensional as to represent
their whole history as a stereotype that mostly the creation of dime
novels and bad Hollywood films.

XODDI

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Dec 19, 2009, 3:14:34 PM12/19/09
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The Peasants' Revolt, 1381
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peasants'_Revolt

Mgr Dry Martini

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Dec 19, 2009, 4:33:29 PM12/19/09
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Oddly enough, some of the Viking Sagas seem to have been written as a
sort of adventure story, long after the events, "Back when men were
men", sort of like a proto western.

XODDI

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Harry Harrison did a GREAT job on that adventure story in "The Hammer and
the Cross" series.

John Cook

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Dec 19, 2009, 4:58:09 PM12/19/09
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The rappers' GangzTar world is perfect for americia but for europe it's
hard - you've just bin Civilised too long - you need a zero-red-tape
culture for that sort of hero(ine).

p.s. recently read something set in the child crusades period. Go Wiki
THAT lunacy...
--
John Cook


Reality is not Democratic

Zapanaz

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Dec 19, 2009, 5:01:37 PM12/19/09
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You know I have one I am working off on and off now. I think of it as
a script for a movie but it would really work best as a serial.

It's kind of plotless and intentionally so, more a series of
adventures, bloody fights and so on. Somewhere between a movie with a
single plot and a TV show with a plot every week. More like a soap
opera.


It's some time in the middle ages. I haven't really set a year. I
would probably set it in a fantasy version of the middle ages, like
the Conan series or The Lord of the Rings. I would want it to be on
the realistic side, like the Conan stories though.

Definitely not like the endlessly asinine fantasy swords-and-sorcery
movies.

The first couple of plot threads. First there is this tribe of North
African pirates. Culturally I sort of want them to be somewhere
between Arabic and African. They have a witch doctor, a shaman. He
does magic to turn himself into a bird. He doesn't actually turn into
a bird but takes on the astral body of one. He flies over the
mediterranean. He knows there are treasure ships that sail from
Sicily and is looking for one of them.

I would want the whole thing to be very visual. Scenes would be
longer than what's normal in a movie and would be focussed on the
visual side. Eye candy for want of a better phrase.

So doing the magic and the flight over the mediterranean would both be
very long scenes, getting all I could out of the visual possibilities.
The flight would be sort of psychedelic too, hallucinatory (because in
the logic of the story, it is, actually, a hallucination). I'd like
to study up on the senses of say ravens and actually try to present
this part distorted in a way which is actually logical for the way a
raven's senses work.

So he finds the ship, there are 100 heavily armed mercenaries on
board. Next he is going to go back and get the fleet of pirates to go
attack the treasure ship.

Anyway long battle. I could probably type ten paragraphs about that
but I'm getting tired of typing.


Reading it it sounds like it could turn into one of those new-agey
fantasy sword-and-sorcery movies, but it would be a lot different on a
lot of levels, mostly in terms of gritty realism. Inspired a lot by
the Conan stories. The stories were pretty good in a pulp fiction
way, although the movies were awful.

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John Cook

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Dec 19, 2009, 5:12:37 PM12/19/09
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Think what CGI will be like in 10/15 years - you will be able to make
the movie yourself at home.

XODDI

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Dec 19, 2009, 7:21:47 PM12/19/09
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