Matt Hale: dancing to the jailhouse rock!
The Enlightenment
news:628ec764457cdfac...@ecn.org...
> Oh, and if you don't thing that the feds and now logging IPs of people
visiting
> your white trash dot com web site well Matt has room in his cell for some
of
> his little buddies.
>
The Feds aren't allowed to. Someting to do with the consitution and spying
on your
own citizens.
So guess what? They contract the ADL to spy for them:
Guess Who Wants To Help Big Brother?
By Sam Francis
<http://www.vdare.com/francis/watch_dogs.htm>
Black Knight
> "Anonymous" <cri...@ecn.org> wrote in message
> news:628ec764457cdfac...@ecn.org...
>
> > Oh, and if you don't thing that the feds and now logging IPs of people
> visiting
> > your white trash dot com web site well Matt has room in his cell for some
> of
> > his little buddies.
> >
>
> The Feds aren't allowed to. Someting to do with the consitution and spying
> on your
> own citizens.
Listen up, ignoramus!! You've got your ignorant mouth running
again.(or, you're just plain lying)
The FBI or any law enforcement agency can wiretap anyone they want if
they have presented evidence that constitutes probable cause that the
person is engaged in illegal activity to a judge and he has issued the
proper approval in the form of a warrant.
Do you know what a warrant, is, you stupid son of a bitch?
Have you ever heard the term "probable cause"? You might try reading
the Constitution yourself, you stupid moron.(I suggest Amendments no.
V and XIV for a start)
They can conduct visual surveillance on anyone without a warrant. All
they have to do is rent a room in the building next door(or across the
street) and look out the window, you fucking idiot. They can also
follow anyone they want anytime they want.
Once someone is convicted of a crime and sent to prison, he loses many
of the rights normally conferred on citizens by the Constitution(esp
the Bill of Rights).Did you know that convicted felons cannot vote or
possess firearms, you idiot? They also cannot associate with certain
persons. If they violate any of their terms of parole(which pay no
regard to Constitutional rights), they can be sent back to prison.
Have you got that, you stupid moron?
Any information on a website is public information, so the Feds can
log any of it they want, you lying idiot.
>
> So guess what? They contract the ADL to spy for them:
Where is the proof of the ADL spying and the SPLC raking in
"millions"?
Just because Idiots like you and Sam Francis(whoever he is) say it
does not make it so.Where is your evidence?
>
> Guess Who Wants To Help Big Brother?
> By Sam Francis
> <http://www.vdare.com/francis/watch_dogs.htm>
Bruno
CarlD
ill,
> perhaps suffering from a viral infection, and not the supreme white that
he's
> pretending to be. I think that Matt will either find Jesus or love behind
bars.
> So much for the Aryan warrior, now he's just a punk ass convicted felon.
Hey, shiteater, was there a trial?
Michael Sharkey
Black Knight wrote:
> Where is the proof of the ADL spying and the SPLC raking in
> "millions"?
> Just because Idiots like you and Sam Francis(whoever he is) say it
> does not make it so.Where is your evidence?
Your wish is my command . . . sharkey
Harper's Magazine November, 2000
The Church of Morris Dees
How the Southern Poverty Law Center profits from intolerance
by Ken Silverstein
http://www.counterpunch.org/pipermail/counterpunch-list/2002-May/019961.html
This is the first of a two-part series on the hidden workings of the
Anti-Defamation League and how three Bay Area activists were able to
uncover a spy operation that reached into the San Francisco Police
Department. Today: Paper trail of deceit.
Black Knight
> Black Knight wrote:
>
> > Where is the proof of the ADL spying and the SPLC raking in
> > "millions"?
> > Just because Idiots like you and Sam Francis(whoever he is) say it
> > does not make it so.Where is your evidence?
>
> Your wish is my command . . . sharkey
>
> Harper's Magazine November, 2000
> The Church of Morris Dees
> How the Southern Poverty Law Center profits from intolerance
> by Ken Silverstein
>
> http://www.counterpunch.org/pipermail/counterpunch-list/2002-May/019961.html
I asked for "proof". All you gave me was an unsupported article by
some guy. Where is the evidence to support his allegations? That means
evidence from a 3rd party unbiased source. Have you got SPLC's audited
financial statements?
You might want to bear in mind that I'm a CPA.
Bruno
Bruno
Black Knight
>
> > Where is the proof of the ADL spying and the SPLC raking in
> > "millions"?
> > Just because Idiots like you and Sam Francis(whoever he is) say it
> > does not make it so.Where is your evidence?
>
> Your wish is my command . . . sharkey
>
the
> Anti-Defamation League and how three Bay Area activists were able to
> uncover a spy operation that reached into the San Francisco Police
> Department. Today: Paper trail of deceit.
>
> http://www.examiner.com/news/default.jsp?story=n.adl.0401w
Did you read your own post?The remarks by a reporter for a San
Francisco newspaper do not constitute proof or a legal decision.
Question is:what do the courts say?Excerpts follow:
The McCloskey case, however, would drag on. The main point of
contention in that case was whether the ADL could be considered a
journalistic enterprise, a point won in court by the ADL.
The ADL publishes hundreds of newsletters, papers and books on a
wide range of subjects, attorney David Goldstein said. As with any
other journalistic enterprise, it contended it was not required to
release its confidential information or sources.
After a 1998 ruling by the 1st District Court of Appeal, giving
the ADL journalistic protection, 14 of the remaining 17 plaintiffs --
two had died in the interim -- dropped their cases against the AD
Why is it that you don't understand the difference between
unsubstantiated allegations and legal proof? Newspapers are in
business to make a profit and spectacular accusations by reporters
sell newspapers.
Are you naive or just dishonest?
Bruno
Michael Sharkey
Black Knight wrote:
>
> Michael Sharkey <shar...@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<3E1E1A71...@earthlink.net>...
> > Black Knight wrote:
> >
> > > Where is the proof of the ADL spying and the SPLC raking in
> > > "millions"?
> > > Just because Idiots like you and Sam Francis(whoever he is) say it
> > > does not make it so.Where is your evidence?
> >
> > Your wish is my command . . . sharkey
> >
> > Harper's Magazine November, 2000
> > The Church of Morris Dees
> > How the Southern Poverty Law Center profits from intolerance
> > by Ken Silverstein
> >
> > http://www.counterpunch.org/pipermail/counterpunch-list/2002-May/019961.html
The article, published in Harper's states quite clearly that:
"Today, the SPLC's treasury bulges with $120 million, and it spends
twice as much on fund-raising-$5.76 million last year-as it does on
legal services for victims of civil rights abuses."
That should be sufficient information to show the SPLC is "raking in "millions"".
The article continues with:
"The American Institute of Philanthropy gives the center one
of the worst ratings of any group it monitors, estimating
that the SPLC could operate for 4.6 years without making
another tax-exempt nickel from its investments or raising
another tax-deductible cent from wellmeaning "people like
you.""
You can view the The American Institute of Philanthropy's website at:
and request their charity rating guide at
http://www.charitywatch.org/ratingguide.html
> I asked for "proof". All you gave me was an unsupported article by
> some guy.
The guy in question, Ken Silverstein, "is a Washington, D.C.-based writer
and a contributing editor to Harper's magazine."
http://www.prospect.org/authors/silverstein-k.html
Harpers Magazine, founded in 1850 has a national circulation of 216,630
and had won a number of awards for journalistic excellence, including 11
National Magazine Awards and 111 O. Henry awards.
You can purchase the Harper's article in question at:
http://www.harpers.org/reader_services/back_issues.php3
> Where is the evidence to support his allegations? That means
> evidence from a 3rd party unbiased source. Have you got SPLC's audited
> financial statements?
Since Harper's has a staff of lawyers to verify the information
contained in it's articles, I have little doubt to question the veracity
of Mr. Silverstein's article. A quick search on the internet using the
criteria "Southern Poverty Law Center", "Ken Silverstein" and "Harper's"
has shown no evidence of a lawsuit being filed over the article, so I
assume the SPLC has found no grounds for slander and the information is correct.
If you still feel the information contained in the article is
questionable you can certainly contact Teenie Hutchison, the Finance and
Administration Director of the SPLC. I'm sure she would render you the
same assistance she would provide me in reviewing the SPLC's financial
statements, which BTW are not available online.
You can write her at:
SPLC 'Attention Teenie Hutchison'
P.O. Box 548
Montgomery, Al 36101-0548
> You might want to bear in mind that I'm a CPA.
I think we're all aware that you're a Certified Public Annoyance.
( and believe me, I'm being kind! )
sharkey
Next up . . . the ADL!
Michael Sharkey
Black Knight wrote:
>
> Michael Sharkey <shar...@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<3E1E1A71...@earthlink.net>...
> > Black Knight wrote:
> >
> > > Where is the proof of the ADL spying and the SPLC raking in
> > > "millions"?
> > > Just because Idiots like you and Sam Francis(whoever he is) say it
> > > does not make it so.Where is your evidence?
> >
> > Your wish is my command . . . sharkey
> >
> >> This is the first of a two-part series on the hidden workings of
> the
> > Anti-Defamation League and how three Bay Area activists were able to
> > uncover a spy operation that reached into the San Francisco Police
> > Department. Today: Paper trail of deceit.
> >
> > http://www.examiner.com/news/default.jsp?story=n.adl.0401w
>
> Did you read your own post?The remarks by a reporter for a San
> Francisco newspaper do not constitute proof or a legal decision.
> Question is:what do the courts say?Excerpts follow:
Why just excerpts, let post the whole article for all to judge.
____________________________
San Francisco Examiner Extra
Publication date: 04/01/2002
Adversaries go inside ADL's spying operation
This is the first of a two-part series on the hidden workings of the
Anti-Defamation League and how three Bay Area activists were able to uncover
a spy operation that reached into the San Francisco Police Department.
Today: Paper trail of deceit.
By Dan Evans
Of The Examiner Staff
Locked in a nondescript computer database, a shadowy operative named Roy
Bullock kept file upon file on liberal San Francisco Jews who disagreed with
Israeli policies.
The files included Social Security numbers, driver's license numbers,
addresses, phone numbers and group memberships. Some of the information was
sold to foreign governments, including Israeli and South African
intelligence groups.
Shockingly, Bullock was in the employ of a civil rights group whose
motto is "fighting anti-Semitism, bigotry and extremism": the
Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith. Numerous targets of the ADL -- who
drew parallels to COINTELPRO, the FBI's tainted domestic surveillance
program -- say the profiling and covert activities continue to this day.
"They are continuing to gather facts," said Abdeen Jabara, a Manhattan
attorney and former president of the American Arab Anti-Discrimination
Committee. "That, of course, is a euphemism for what we say is private
spying."
Not only were liberal Jews a target, but information also was kept on
labor unions, pro-Palestinian organizations, anti-apartheid groups, American
Arabs and anti-Semites. After the Federal Bureau of Investigation broke the
case in 1993, a number of these targets filed suit against the ADL. The last
lawsuit was recently settled.
The settlement in February marked the first time any of the
organization's victims were allowed to speak out. Usually, the ADL demands
plaintiffs keep quiet as a condition of any settlement.
Without those constraints, victims Jeffrey Blankfort, Steve Zeltzer and
Anne Poirier are revealing the underbelly of an organization that previously
had successfully shielded itself from condemnation. They are using the ADL's
own spy as a fulcrum.
Bullock's relationship with Blankfort and Zeltzer began when he
infiltrated a pro-Palestinian group started by the two, both of whom are
Jewish. Once inside, Bullock collected and sold information about the two
men to the ADL and, possibly the Mossad, the foreign arm of Israeli
intelligence.
Although Bullock never met Poirier, he may have sold information on her
organization to the South African government. The woman, who lives in
Berkeley, ran a scholarship program for South African exiles in the early
1990s. During the course of her lawsuit against the ADL, she discovered the
ADL's operative had sold confidential information to a South African agent
in San Francisco for $15,000.
Poirier had never done any work relating to the Middle East, and she was
astounded when she found out that the ADL had kept tabs on her. During her
nine-year court fight with the group, she found out more than she needed to
know about its operation, and now nothing much surprises her.
"They gathered information on anti-apartheid activities," she said,
"anyone the organization felt, by definition, would be against Israel
because they were too left-wing."
A few files, so what?
The fact the ADL has a file on a group doesn't imply clandestine
activities, said San Francisco regional director Jonathan Bernstein. He
resents the implication of the word spying, saying it implies people were
being followed around and trailed. That simply wasn't the case, he said,
though he acknowledged he never met Bullock.
"We have files on the NAACP because we've done collaborative projects
with them," he said. "They probably have files on the ADL, too."
In Bernstein's eyes, the group's fact-finding operations are one of its
most important missions.
Much of the time, the "missions" are nothing more than gleaning
information from media reports, he said. People employed by the ADL do
attend public meetings to keep an eye on people, just as other journalists
do.
The area's top boss, however, repeatedly sidestepped questions on
whether fact-finders employed subterfuge to get information. The fact that
some of the people being watched by the ADL were Jewish was immaterial,
Bernstein said.
Other civil rights groups, such as the Southern Poverty Law Center, do
similar things on a limited scale, he said.
A representative of the Southern Poverty Law Center, which is
headquartered in Birmingham, could not be reached for comment.
Because the ADL has 30 regional offices, the organization is much better
equipped to ferret out anti-Semitism and other racist behavior.
"It can help us to respond to hate activity before someone gets hurt,"
Bernstein said. "That's the ultimate objective."
But are there times when fact-finding becomes a civil rights violation?
The San Francisco office of the American Civil Liberties Union, a group
one might expect to have a dim view on the tactics employed by the ADL,
refused to comment on the group's fact-finding activities. Nor would
spokeswoman Rachel Swain give a reason for the silence.
Ongoing complaints
Groups have been saying for years that the ADL isn't the civil rights
organization it claims to be, but no one has been listening. Mostly, it's
because those groups have been thinly-veiled anti-Semites, such as the
Liberty Lobby, or hate groups such as White Aryan Resistance and the KKK.
But, as vile as some of these groups are, there is a significant amount
of evidence that their vitriol is not unfounded. For at least four decades,
the ADL continuously has tracked and spied on groups it considers not
only a
threat to the Jewish community, but to the state of Israel.
Hussein Ibish certainly thinks so. Ibish is the spokesman for the
American Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee -- an organization that is, in
many ways, the Arab counterpart to the ADL. Though certainly at odds with
many Israeli policies, the ADC is not anti-Semitic, and plays a rather
moderate role.
"Was the ADL spying on people?" asked Ibish, quickly answering his own
question. "Certainly in San Francisco they were. We know they were engaging
in illegal activities to gain information. They, and their operatives, were
working hand-in-glove with South African intelligence and Israeli
intelligence."
Meet Mr. Spy
By his own admission, Bullock had been working off the books as a
fact-finder for the ADL since the mid-1960s. He would infiltrate not only
openly anti-Semitic groups, but also pro-Palestinian and anti-apartheid
organizations, usually under false pretenses. Bullock, who is not Jewish,
would then pass that information along to the ADL.
He received information about his targets from former San Francisco
Police Inspector Tom Gerard, who fled to the Philippines after being
indicted in 1994 for illegal use of a police computer. Gerard's current
whereabouts are unknown.
Bullock, who no longer does undercover work for the organization,
declined to be interviewed for this article.
Nobody could have known about the extent of Bullock's surveillance, if
police had not seized his computer database in April 1993. It contained
thousands of files on liberal Jewish San Franciscans, Arab-Americans,
anti-apartheid activists, anti-Semitic groups, and plain ol' white racists.
On April 8, 1993, armed with this information, police in San Francisco
and Los Angeles searched the ADL offices in those two cities. In San
Francisco, roughly 10 banker's boxes of information -- 75 percent of which
officers said was illegally obtained -- were seized.
A majority of data in those boxes confirmed police suspicions that it
had come from Bullock's computer. On that computer was information on 9,876
people, including 1,394 driver's licenses. The files were divided into five
categories: "Pinko," "Right," Arabs," "Skins," and "ANC," the last standing
for African National Congress.
Bullock also told the FBI that he had information on various labor
groups. These groups included: the San Francisco Labor Council, the Oakland
Educators Association, the National Association for the Advancement of
Colored People, Irish Northern Aid, the International Indian Treaty Council
and the Asian Law Caucus.
Lawsuits galore
After the SFPD raid on the ADL offices, then-District Attorney Arlo
Smith filed a lawsuit against the organization to stop the spying. The suit
was settled that November. Though the ADL acknowledged no wrongdoing, the
group agreed to stop using police to get confidential information. The
league also agreed to pay $75,000 to a fund used to help stop hate crimes.
On April 18, 1993, 19 people who Bullock kept files on sued the ADL in
San Francisco Superior Court. Pete McCloskey, a former Republican
congressman from San Mateo County, was the group's attorney. His wife,
Helen, was one of the original plaintiffs.
A few months later, in October, the ADC slapped its Jewish counterpart
with a similar lawsuit in Los Angeles federal court. The ADC claimed the ADL
passed along information on the group to the Israeli government. The ADC's
suit was settled in October 1996.
The ADL agreed to pay $175,000 toward the Arab group's legal costs. The
ADL also agreed to contribute $25,000 to a foundation, administered by the
ADL and the ADC, dedicated to improving relations between Jews and Arabs.
The ADL was able to deny all wrongdoing.
Journalistic enterprise?
The McCloskey case, however, would drag on. The main point of contention
in that case was whether the ADL could be considered a journalistic
enterprise, a point won in court by the ADL.
The ADL publishes hundreds of newsletters, papers and books on a wide
range of subjects, attorney David Goldstein said. As with any other
journalistic enterprise, it contended it was not required to release its
confidential information or sources.
After a 1998 ruling by the 1st District Court of Appeal, giving the ADL
journalistic protection, 14 of the remaining 17 plaintiffs -- two had died
in the interim -- dropped their cases against the ADL.
On Feb. 22, 2002, the ADL settled with Blankfort, Zeltzer and Poirier.
What held up the process, said McCloskey, was his clients' refusal to
sign a confidentially agreement. The three felt they had been viciously
wronged, he said, and wanted to publicize that fact.
With the settlement, each of the three plaintiffs received about
$50,000. None of the three, or McCloskey, believes the ADL will stop their
spying ways.
"It was settled partially out of fatigue," said the attorney. "Everyone
figured it might be best if we all just moved on."
Even if the case had continued, said Goldstein, there is a debate over
how much the three plaintiffs could prove they had been injured. Most of the
contested information consisted of Social Security and driver's license
numbers, which are hardly difficult items to find.
Nine years later, McCloskey is still angry about the case and wants the
federal government to revoke the group's tax-exempt status.
Since they obviously are working in conjunction with the Israeli
government, he said, they should register as such. Referring to themselves
as an education group, said the attorney, is simply a sham.
____________________________________________________________
> Why is it that you don't understand the difference between
> unsubstantiated allegations and legal proof? Newspapers are in
> business to make a profit and spectacular accusations by reporters
> sell newspapers.
It's interesting to think that the ADL would pay millions of dollars in
courst costs over a period of 10 years, and then settle with the
defendants, to the tune of $425,000 over "unsubstantiated allegations".
The article states quite clearly that,
"By his own admission, Bullock had been working off the books as a
fact-finder for the ADL since the mid-1960s. He would infiltrate not
only openly anti-Semitic groups, but also pro-Palestinian and
anti-apartheid organizations, usually under false pretenses. Bullock,
who is not Jewish, would then pass that information along to the ADL."
By definition, a spy! BTW, do you own a dictionary?
SPY
INTRANSITIVE VERB: 1. To engage in espionage. 2. To seek or observe
something secretly and closely. 3. To make a careful investigation:
spying into other people's activities.
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth
Edition. 2000.
Further reading has shown that the ADL attempted to portray Bullock as a
free-lance investigator, paid through an ADL lawyer in Beverly Hills.
After his exposure, Bullock was put directly on the ADL's payroll,
giving him and his sources protection as a "journalist".
> Are you naive or just dishonest?
Neither, although you seem to qualify for both.
A little reading on your part could remedy your ignorance concerning
this case. That would certainly be a start in remedying your apparent
naiveté. As far as your dishonesty in misrepresenting the above article
as nothing but "spectacular" and "unsubstantiated allegations", I
suspect little can be done. You obviously prefer keeping your head in
the sand, when it's not up your ass.
sharkey
Amos Cassius D'ante
Michael Sharkey <shar...@earthlink.net> wrote:
What did you expect from Bruno? He's admitted he's a "volunteer" for the
ADL. -Amos
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Michael Sharkey
Amos Cassius D'ante wrote:
> What did you expect from Bruno? He's admitted he's a "volunteer" for the
> ADL. -Amos
Thanks for the information Amos, as I was unaware of his "volunteer"
status with the ADL. That certainly explains his obfuscation regarding
the SF Chronicle article.
I appreciate the help.
sharkey
Black Knight
TRanslation: Sharkey still cannot read.
>
Bruno
Black Knight
> Black Knight wrote:
> >
> > Michael Sharkey <shar...@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<3E1E1A71...@earthlink.net>...
> > > Black Knight wrote:
> > >
> > > > Where is the proof of the ADL spying and the SPLC raking in
> > > > "millions"?
> > > > Just because Idiots like you and Sam Francis(whoever he is) say it
> > > > does not make it so.Where is your evidence?
> > >
> > > Your wish is my command . . . sharkey
> > >
> > > Harper's Magazine November, 2000
> > > The Church of Morris Dees
> > > How the Southern Poverty Law Center profits from intolerance
> > > by Ken Silverstein
> > >
> > > http://www.counterpunch.org/pipermail/counterpunch-list/2002-May/019961.html
>
> The article, published in Harper's states quite clearly that:
>
> "Today, the SPLC's treasury bulges with $120 million, and it spends
> twice as much on fund-raising-$5.76 million last year-as it does on
> legal services for victims of civil rights abuses."
>
> That should be sufficient information to show the SPLC is "raking in "millions"".
NO, idiot. That is an allegation. It is not proof. You still cannot
read.
You are an idiot who knows nothing. The magazine's lawyers do not get
involved in monitoring it's accuracy.Financial matters are the
responsibility of accountants, not lawyers, you stupid ignoramus.
Reporters tell lies all the time and get away with it because the
matter is not worth suing over. SPLC would only sue if they could
prove the article caused them substantial financial damage. You
obviously know NOTHING about the law. >
>
If you still feel the information contained in the article is
> questionable you can certainly contact Teenie Hutchison, the Finance and
> Administration Director of the SPLC. I'm sure she would render you the
> same assistance she would provide me in reviewing the SPLC's financial
> statements, which BTW are not available online.
Why should they be online, you idiot? Finances are a private matter
and none of your ignorant business.SPLC is a non=profit agency, you
ignorant moron. That means they would only be required to make their
financial statements public if they received more than $300,000 in
Federal funds and were therefore subject to OMB 133. How fucking
ignorant can you be?
You are one of the dumbest motherfuckers I have seen in years.
>
> You can write her at:
>
> SPLC 'Attention Teenie Hutchison'
> P.O. Box 548
> Montgomery, Al 36101-0548
>
> > You might want to bear in mind that I'm a CPA.
>
> I think we're all aware that you're a Certified Public Annoyance.
> ( and believe me, I'm being kind! )
I don't care if you are "kind" or not, idiot. I place no value on your
worthless opinion.Apparently, you are too stupid to have figured that
out by now. Everyone else has.
YOu are an ignorant,stupid, bigmouthed liar. Your parents should be
indicted for dumping toxic waste into the environment.
>
>
Bruno
>
> Next up . . . the ADL!
Who cares.
Amos Cassius D'ante
Michael Sharkey <shar...@earthlink.net> wrote:
Anytime. Here's the original post, btw:
http://groups.google.com/groups?safe=images&ie=ISO-8859-1&as_umsgid=594c8
e48.0211031...@posting.google.com&lr=&hl=en
From: kni...@indystart.com (Black Knight)
Date: 3 Nov 2002 18:04:55 -0800
Message-ID: <594c8e48.0211...@posting.google.com>
As a volunteer for ADL, I take great pride in the fact that Psycho
Pierce saw the ADL as such a threat that he gets so worked up over
what it says in it's public announcements. It means Abe Foxman and his
crew are accomplishing their mission.
Bruno
~~~~~~~
Black Knight
> In article <3E2056BE...@earthlink.net>,
> Michael Sharkey <shar...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > Black Knight wrote:
> > >
> > > Michael Sharkey <shar...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > news:<3E1E1A71...@earthlink.net>...
> > > > Black Knight wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Where is the proof of the ADL spying and the SPLC raking in
> > > > > "millions"?
> > > > > Just because Idiots like you and Sam Francis(whoever he is) say it
> > > > > does not make it so.Where is your evidence?
> > > >
> > > > Your wish is my command . . . sharkey
> > > >
> > > >> This is the first of a two-part series on the hidden workings of
> the
> > > > Anti-Defamation League and how three Bay Area activists were able to
> > > > uncover a spy operation that reached into the San Francisco Police
> > > > Department. Today: Paper trail of deceit.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.examiner.com/news/default.jsp?story=n.adl.0401w
> > >
> > > Did you read your own post?The remarks by a reporter for a San
> > > Francisco newspaper do not constitute proof or a legal decision.
> > > Question is:what do the courts say?Excerpts follow:
> >
> > Why just excerpts, let post the whole article for all to judge.
Listen, you stupid fuck. Anyone who wants to read the whole thing can
go back to the original post and do so. I posted the portion that was
relevant to the point I was making. Obviously, you have no
understanding of the word relevant. That's because you are just plain
stupid. You are one ignorant ridiculous clown.
<deleted repetitive nonsense>
Bruno
>
Amos Cassius D'ante
kni...@indystart.com (Black Knight) wrote:
~~~~~snipped a bunch
>
> NO, idiot. That is an allegation. It is not proof. You still cannot
> read.
~~~~~~
> You are an idiot who knows nothing.
~~~~~~
> You obviously know NOTHING about the law. >
~~~~~~
>
> Why should they be online, you idiot?
~~~~~~
> You are one of the dumbest motherfuckers I have seen in years.
~~~~~
>
> Bruno
Dang, Bruno, got a burr under your saddle? -Amos
Black Knight
Your ignorance of the law is incredible. What is at issue here is not
the facts, you stupid idiot, but the law. The reporter alleged that
the ADL had done something illegal and so did the people who sued.
Obviously, the Court said both of them were wrong, and put a stop to
all the lawsuits with it's ruling.The law in many areas is in a state
of development. When the ADL made it's intial payments, they had not
had the definitive ruling which defended their position. How ignorant
can you be. Large organziations frequently settle lawsuits to get rid
of the bad publicity, you ignorant asshole. How ignorant are you, you
stupid fucking IDIOT?
Bruno
> >
> >
Black Knight
> In article <3E2056BE...@earthlink.net>,
>
<deletia>
> What did you expect from Bruno? He's admitted he's a "volunteer" for the
> ADL. -Amos
>
Stop lying, you stupid asshole. I volunteered that informmation. That
is not an "admission", you stupid lying son of a bitch, because it is
neither illegal nor unethical.Do you understand now? You are one of
the silliest most insignificant fools I have seen here in years. I
will now ignore you because that is what you deserve.You do not
matter.
Black Knight
Shut your lying trap, you stupid arrogant bastard motherfucker.
>
> SPY
>
> INTRANSITIVE VERB: 1. To engage in espionage. 2. To seek or observe
> something secretly and closely. 3. To make a careful investigation:
> spying into other people's activities.
Hey, you stupid moron! The FBI does the same thing. So does private
industry.
So does the Vice squad, the Narc squad. So do private investigators.
>
> The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth
> Edition. 2000.
>
> Further reading has shown that the ADL attempted to portray Bullock as a
> free-lance investigator, paid through an ADL lawyer in Beverly Hills.
> After his exposure, Bullock was put directly on the ADL's payroll,
> giving him and his sources protection as a "journalist".
>
> > Are you naive or just dishonest?
>
> Neither, although you seem to qualify for both.
>
> A little reading on your part could remedy your ignorance concerning
> this case.
I read your article and exposed the fact that you misinterpreted it
and deliberately ignored the part of it that defeated your
argument.You don't understand the law or anything else. You are one
ignorant asshole.
As far as your dishonesty in misrepresenting the above article
> as nothing but "spectacular" and "unsubstantiated allegations", I
> suspect little can be done.
FUCK YOU
You obviously prefer keeping your head in
> the sand, when it's not up your ass.
Fuck you.You are a damn liar and an ignoramus. You don't know what you
are talking about and too dishonest to admit your errors and complete
ignorance.
Your last name should be Slimy,not sharkey. You're a scumbag.
Bruno
>
> sharkey
Black Knight
> In article <594c8e48.03011...@posting.google.com>,
> kni...@indystart.com (Black Knight) wrote:
>
> ~~~~~snipped a bunch
> >
> > NO, idiot. That is an allegation. It is not proof. You still cannot
> > read.
> ~~~~~~
> > You are an idiot who knows nothing.
> ~~~~~~
> > You obviously know NOTHING about the law. >
> ~~~~~~
> >
> > Why should they be online, you idiot?
> ~~~~~~
> > You are one of the dumbest motherfuckers I have seen in years.
> ~~~~~
> >
> > Bruno
>
> Dang, Bruno, got a burr under your saddle? -Amos
>
I have a low tolerance for morons like you and Sharkey. Do you think
pissing me off is an accomplishment, fool? You have also exposed your
own stupidity and ignorance to everyone who reads this thread. That
was my objective and it has now been accomplished. Conversation
terminated.
Bruno
DisiLLusioneD
>Amos Cassius D'ante <fAm...@excite.com> wrote in message news:<fAmosCD-FEC824...@news4.uncensored-news.com>...
>> In article <3E2056BE...@earthlink.net>,
>>
>
><deletia>
>
>> What did you expect from Bruno? He's admitted he's a "volunteer" for the
>> ADL. -Amos
>>
>
>Stop lying, you stupid asshole. I volunteered that informmation. That
>is not an "admission", you stupid lying son of a bitch, because it is
>neither illegal nor unethical.Do you understand now? You are one of
>the silliest most insignificant fools I have seen here in years. I
>will now ignore you because that is what you deserve.You do not
>matter.
Why don't you really hurt him & KillFile him ? You fucking imbecile !
Jessica
STUPID!
IGNORANT!!
BIGMOUTHED!!
IGNORANT!!! (again)
IDIOT!!!
MORON!!!
LIAR!!!
YOU ARE A STOOPID IGNORANT MORON, YOU STUPID!
Wow, Sharkey, you have just proved yourself to be a stupid, ignorant
moronic liar. Why is it, then, that I feel so bad for Bruno?
You, Sharkey, and I, agree on many facts, and while we do not always
draw the same conclusions from those facts, I have always respected
you. I cannot say the samefor our friend, the ANTI-RACIST Bruno....I
wonder why that is? I am sure you would be able to enlighten me if you
weren't such a STUPID IGNORANT LIAR MORON!!!!!
(Gee, some people just shoot their own credibility all to hell, huh?)
:-D
-Jess
DisiLLusioneD
I agree with this post. Its probably no big secret that Sharkey & I
don't share the same views on everything, though I do respect him, &
I'm sure he knows that.
People like Sharkey, Raine, Calvo & even Bruce earn respect for the
way they conduct themselves regardless of political beliefs, whereas
closed-minded cunts like Bruno & Skinheadz cop the shit they so
rightfully deserve.
Black Knight
Is that why Sharkey told me I "have my head up my ass"? Is that why he
said I don't have a dictionary? If you let polite conduct mask lies
,deceit and arrogance, you are a naive fool. We were discussing an
emotional issue, dum-dum.
Bruno
Black Knight
> In alt.skinheads, kni...@indystart.com (Black Knight) typed:
>
> >Amos Cassius D'ante <fAm...@excite.com> wrote in message news:<fAmosCD-FEC824...@news4.uncensored-news.com>...
> >> In article <3E2056BE...@earthlink.net>,
> >>
> >
> ><deletia>
> >
> >> What did you expect from Bruno? He's admitted he's a "volunteer" for the
> >> ADL. -Amos
> >>
> >
> >Stop lying, you stupid asshole. I volunteered that informmation. That
> >is not an "admission", you stupid lying son of a bitch, because it is
> >neither illegal nor unethical.Do you understand now? You are one of
> >the silliest most insignificant fools I have seen here in years. I
> >will now ignore you because that is what you deserve.You do not
> >matter.
>
> Why don't you really hurt him & KillFile him ? You fucking imbecile !
Excuse me. I think you have mistaken me for someone who cares what you think.
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
Black Knight
Good grief! Jessy-poo doesn't approve of me. My self-esteem is
completely shattered. O, What shall I do? Woe is me!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Bruno
Black Knight
You just called me a "closed-minded cunt". Can you spell the word "hypocrite"?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Bruno
Black Knight
I am a volunteer for ADL. They don't pay me a cent for helping them. I
help out because I believe in what they are doing. Many of them are
Liberals and we are on opposite sides politically. However, we do
agree that lies and bigotry are bad. I can see that you have no such
aversion to lies. Too bad.
Bruno
Michael Sharkey
First off, I want to thank you all for the support. I find it amazing
that posting a newspaper article could draw such venom, but some people
can't seem to behave when faced with a contrary viewpoint. It seems in
Bruno's case I hit a nerve. His point, that the court ultimately decides
what is "spying" may be true, but spying in many cases is not illegal
and the court would have no jurisdiction over it until the law had been
broken. In my opinion, the law was broken and only the actions of clever
lawyers allowed the ADL off the hook.
AFAIC, the ADL does good work. But like any organization they can, in
their enthusiasm, can overstep the law. This I believe was one of those
times. Unfortunately, having escaped justice they can now continue on
their spying ways under the cover of a journalist enterprise. No
reformation required.
As for me, I've just spent the past 18 hours at emergency and it looks
like I'll be dealing with family for the next few weeks. If you can
believe it, this is my escape from the latest crisis in my life. (:-(}
Nevertheless, I've said all that needs to be said and must now turn my
attention to my responsibilities as a son.
Thanks again ya'll,
Michael
The Monstrous Wrath of Wotan
"Black Knight" <kni...@indystart.com> wrote in message
news:594c8e48.03011...@posting.google.com...
Fuck off, dimwit.
Black Knight
Request denied. Dismissed.
LTJG Bruno
DisiLLusioneD
No mistake. You're a leftist fucking dimwit, & its not a thought of
mine - its actual fact !
>
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
--
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Long-standing member of rilly high impotence.
fhm88x14 88Hunter#14
take a looksie at are homepage:
http://tinyurl.com/23ym
"I'm black irish in descent,
but I still hate nigers !"
DisiLLusioneD
>DisiLLusioneD <Riff_Raff@d00ds_how_slurp_ladygerls.cum> wrote in message news:<vfe22vo0uloui89t4...@4ax.com>...
You're the one who started with the profanities, NOT Sharkey, though
thats really not surprising - thats about all you're good (mheh) at.
>If you let polite conduct mask lies
>,deceit and arrogance, you are a naive fool.
I call 'em as I see 'em. I have seen many a Sharkey post, as I have
yours. Strangely enough I have only found one of you to display
ignorance & arrogance, & its NOT Sharkey.
>We were discussing an
>emotional issue, dum-dum.
No you weren't. You were telling him what an ignorant idiotic moron
(*you think*) he is. Your emotions are clouded with hate & venom,
which makes you no better than the people you *think* you're
condemning.
DisiLLusioneD
>DisiLLusioneD <Riff_Raff@d00ds_how_slurp_ladygerls.cum> wrote in message news:<vfe22vo0uloui89t4...@4ax.com>...
Christ ! Not much gets past you, eh ?
>Can you spell the word "hypocrite"?
Yes, but there's really no need - You seem to have managed it all on
your own !
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Indeed. You claim to oppose hatred & bigotry, yet your posts are
riddled with it. Just as well you proved you can spell "hypocrite",
innit ?
>
>Bruno
Navy Kurt
> completely shattered. O, What shall I do? Woe is me!!!!!!
>
> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>
> Bruno
stop acting like a self righteous cunt. that would be a good place to
start.
funny how you lefty types always claim to be anti-racist and all along
your working against working blacks and whites. so why did the adl spy
on labor unions? were you afraid that they might get a good wiff of
your sympathies for illegal aliens and all things unamerican?
to sharkey...sure we disagree on alot. let me say this point blank.
i'm just as anti-left in many ways as you are. it's the left that
created the situation where by the murderers of 3,000 americans,
9-11-01, waltzed into this country took advantage of it's
multicultural stupidity then blasted it. like wise they aid and abet
the transplantation of it's jobs to cheap labor countries and offer
comfort to illegal aliens that move into compete with americans for
the fewer and fewer jobs that remain.
it is my assertion that the far left and the big business right are in
cahoots together to intellectually and finacially supress the common
american. the only thing whites and african americans are good for is
to fight one another while the real enemy takes up positions and
prepares for an all out assualt. it's up to us to decide whether we
want to be vassals to a communist regime, property of
large multi-national corperations, or free born, fighting, dieing,
fuckin' americans.
scum like bruno hide behind legalese and his petty demands for
footnotes because he knows that if honest hard working americans,
black or white, got together he'd get his ass handed to him in a new
york minute. is he anti-racist or simply a communist exploiting racial
tensions? my vote goes for a communist.
Navy Kurt
are you in the navy? what's with the ltjg? if so does the navy know
your in the jdl....er excuse me adl?
Navy Kurt
> Hey, you stupid moron! The FBI does the same thing. So does private
> industry.
> So does the Vice squad, the Narc squad. So do private investigators.
> I read your article and exposed the fact that you misinterpreted it
> and deliberately ignored the part of it that defeated your
> argument.You don't understand the law or anything else. You are one
> ignorant asshole.
> As far as your dishonesty in misrepresenting the above article
> > as nothing but "spectacular" and "unsubstantiated allegations", I
> > suspect little can be done.
>
> FUCK YOU
> Fuck you.You are a damn liar and an ignoramus. You don't know what you
> are talking about and too dishonest to admit your errors and complete
> ignorance.
> Your last name should be Slimy,not sharkey. You're a scumbag.
>
>
> Bruno
correct me if i'm wrong but isn't this pa dude? think about it.
Black Knight
Request denied. Dismissed
LTJG Bruno
Navy Kurt
> the facts, you stupid idiot, but the law. The reporter alleged that
> the ADL had done something illegal and so did the people who sued.
> Obviously, the Court said both of them were wrong, and put a stop to
> all the lawsuits with it's ruling.The law in many areas is in a state
> of development. When the ADL made it's intial payments, they had not
> had the definitive ruling which defended their position. How ignorant
> can you be. Large organziations frequently settle lawsuits to get rid
> of the bad publicity, you ignorant asshole. How ignorant are you, you
> stupid fucking IDIOT?
>
>
> Bruno
i take issue with the fact that you keep reposting the entire thread
instead of deleting all but the portions of the thread that you are
currently responding to.
i also take issue with the virulence of your attack on sharkey. so
much for a civilized discussion.
while you want to haggle over the legalese of some liberal activist
judges decision some of us would like to get to the bottom of of the
essential quandry
facing non-racist and anti-racist. how can one resist racism and
gramcian (read: sneaky backdoor) communism at the same time.
personally i find sharkey to be far less a threat to my security than
the closet communism that offers itself up as liberalism these days.
so why don't you stop nit-picking and start discussing the
substatative issues.
Navy Kurt
>
>
> Request denied. Dismissed
>
> LTJG Bruno
it fucking well is. it's the same virulence on a slightly different tack.
and once again what's with the "ltjg"?
Black Knight
> >
> >
> > Request denied. Dismissed
> >
> > LTJG Bruno
>
> it fucking well is. it's the same virulence on a slightly different tack.
I am always virulent when I lose patience with fools who refuse to
listen.Apparently, that includes you.
>
> and once again what's with the "ltjg"?
I was a U.S. Navy officer, commissioned in 1973. What the fuck do you
think it is, dumbass?
Bruno
Black Knight
> > the facts, you stupid idiot, but the law. The reporter alleged that
> > the ADL had done something illegal and so did the people who sued.
> > Obviously, the Court said both of them were wrong, and put a stop to
> > all the lawsuits with it's ruling.The law in many areas is in a state
> > of development. When the ADL made it's intial payments, they had not
> > had the definitive ruling which defended their position. How ignorant
> > can you be. Large organziations frequently settle lawsuits to get rid
> > of the bad publicity, you ignorant asshole. How ignorant are you, you
> > stupid fucking IDIOT?
> >
> >
> > Bruno
>
> i take issue with the fact that you keep reposting the entire thread
> instead of deleting all but the portions of the thread that you are
> currently responding to.
I'll post whatever i want and you have nothing to say about it.
>
> i also take issue with the virulence of your attack on sharkey. so
> much for a civilized discussion.
Ask me if I care with what you "take issue with". You are not the
monitor of this discussion and I don't take orders from idiots like
you.
>
> while you want to haggle over the legalese of some liberal activist
> judges decision some of us would like to get to the bottom of of the
> essential quandry
> facing non-racist and anti-racist. how can one resist racism and
> gramcian (read: sneaky backdoor) communism at the same time.
> personally i find sharkey to be far less a threat to my security than
> the closet communism that offers itself up as liberalism these days.
That's quite a mouthful. Of course, you've got quite a mouth,and an
ignorant one, too.
YOu are calling me a "Communist"? You're an idiot. I'm a Conservative
Republican, former U.S. Naval officer, NRA member and American Legion
member.
You just made an ass of yourself.
>
> so why don't you stop nit-picking and start discussing the
> substatative issues.
Listen, fool. You do not define the issues for me. What you call
nit-picking are relevant matters.You are an overbearing, presumptuous
ass and your decrees have no effect on me. Try to bully someone
else.Get lost.
Bruno
The Monstrous Wrath of Wotan
"Navy Kurt" <navy...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:8b7b01f5.03011...@posting.google.com...
> > LTJG Bruno
>
> are you in the navy? what's with the ltjg? if so does the navy know
> your in the jdl....er excuse me adl?
Hello sailor.
Black Knight
> > the facts, you stupid idiot, but the law. The reporter alleged that
> > the ADL had done something illegal and so did the people who sued.
> > Obviously, the Court said both of them were wrong, and put a stop to
> > all the lawsuits with it's ruling.The law in many areas is in a state
> > of development. When the ADL made it's intial payments, they had not
> > had the definitive ruling which defended their position. How ignorant
> > can you be. Large organziations frequently settle lawsuits to get rid
> > of the bad publicity, you ignorant asshole. How ignorant are you, you
> > stupid fucking IDIOT?
> >
> >
> > Bruno
>
> i take issue with the fact that you keep reposting the entire thread
> instead of deleting all but the portions of the thread that you are
> currently responding to.
That's a hot one. Sharkey objected that I once only posted certain
parts of it-the parts I thought were relevant to the point I was
making.
Will you characters make up your minds?
HAHAHAHAHA!
Black Knight
If you are wondering about the authenticity of my LTJG rank, just
contact the Department of the Navy. I was commissioned an Ensign at
OCS Newport Rhode Island in May 1973 under the name A. Tandy.I was
promoted to LTJG two years later while serving as MPA aboard the USS
AJAX.
I qualified as Engineering Officer of the Watch in 1975.
My billets held included MPA, legal officer, gunnery officer and
Assistant First Lieutenant.
I was an enlisted man for two years(1971-72) and an Aviation
Electrician's Mate at NAS Glenview, Illinois.
Bruno
Black Knight
> "Navy Kurt" <navy...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:8b7b01f5.03011...@posting.google.com...
> > > LTJG Bruno
> >
> > are you in the navy?
I was active from 1971 to 1977.
what's with the ltjg? if so does the navy know
> > your in the jdl....er excuse me adl?
The Navy does not consider the ADL to be subversive.Too bad for you.
They did a full background check on me before I was admitted to OCS
and I passed with flying colors.They even gave me a Top Secret
clearance. They don't view the ADL like you do because they know what
it's all about.(You don't)If you disagree with that assessment,
complain to the FBI-they did the background check.
>
> Hello sailor.
May you have fair winds and following seas.
Bruno
Phantom Ryder
If you were really Navy, you would understand Lieutenant Junior Grade,
mental midget. Drop the Navy since it is obvious that you are a phony
wannabe!
--
Phantom Ryder
"Cave Putorium"
Navy Kurt
> >
> > it fucking well is. it's the same virulence on a slightly different tack.
>
> I am always virulent when I lose patience with fools who refuse to
> listen.Apparently, that includes you.
> >
> > and once again what's with the "ltjg"?
>
> I was a U.S. Navy officer, commissioned in 1973. What the fuck do you
> think it is, dumbass?
>
> Bruno
i was a navy corpsman and i no longer use the title of hm3. that's
what i think smart-ass.
Navy Kurt
your acting as an apologist for a suspiciously radical left wing
group. not exactly the stuff of a conservative.
and as for a naval officer....if your still signing off as ltjg, 29
years after you were an ensign, i'd say you weren't to fucking hot at
taking orders from anyone. don't bullshit me sonny. i can smell a
bullshit artist a mile away.
these searches for abortion, gay rights, and school vouchers done on
the adl web site show that the adl is anything but a radical left wing
organization that wouldn't put up with a republican, nor would a
republican work for them
and a quick search for adl articles reveals that they are for gun
control as well.
sell tell us another lie.
hmmm...you're a conservative republican, an n.r.a. member and a guy
that only made jg. oh and you happen to be an apologist for b'nai
b'riths branch of the american communist party
Michael Sharkey
Black Knight wrote:
>
> The Navy does not consider the ADL to be subversive.
and the Anti Defamation League just LOVES those Navy volunteers!
"In 1987, the ADL came under FBI scrutiny in the wake of the Pollard spy
scandal. While assigned to the Navy's Anti-Terrorist Alert Center, where
he had access to the most closely-guarded U.S. secrets, Jonathan Pollard
stole thousands of pages of classified documents for Israel, which,
according to Federal prosecutors, 'could fill a room the size of a large
closet ... ten feet by six feet by six feet.' Pollard's handler was Avi
Sella, an Israeli air force colonel whose wife worked for the New York
ADL as a lawyer. Pollard later wrote to friends that a prominent ADL
leader was deeply involved in the Israeli spy operation."
Behind the Mask of Respectability: The truth about the Anti-Defamation
League of B'nai B'rith
"One document Pollard is believed to have slipped to the
Israelis—thought to have landed in Soviet hands, albeit
unintentionally—was a huge compendium of frequencies used by foreign
military and intelligence services [which] cost the U.S. billions of
dollars but Pollard rendered . . . useless [and, by
compromising it] may have cost informants their lives."
Time magazine, Dec. 13, 1993
Black Knight
Maybe he was in the Navy, airdale. Ten minutes after he reported
aboard ship,he was interviewed by his Leading Petty Officer, who
decided he wasn't smart enough to be anything but ballast. Ballast
stays in one place and doesn't get around much, so he never met any
officers.
Bruno
Black Knight
> In alt.music.white-power, kni...@indystart.com (Black Knight) typed:
>
> >DisiLLusioneD <Riff_Raff@d00ds_how_slurp_ladygerls.cum> wrote in message news:<q9c22vc70e3g3pio8...@4ax.com>...
> >> In alt.skinheads, kni...@indystart.com (Black Knight) typed:
> >>
> >> >Amos Cassius D'ante <fAm...@excite.com> wrote in message news:<fAmosCD-FEC824...@news4.uncensored-news.com>...
> >> >> In article <3E2056BE...@earthlink.net>,
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> ><deletia>
> >> >
> >> >> What did you expect from Bruno? He's admitted he's a "volunteer" for the
> >> >> ADL. -Amos
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >Stop lying, you stupid asshole. I volunteered that informmation. That
> >> >is not an "admission", you stupid lying son of a bitch, because it is
> >> >neither illegal nor unethical.Do you understand now? You are one of
> >> >the silliest most insignificant fools I have seen here in years. I
> >> >will now ignore you because that is what you deserve.You do not
> >> >matter.
> >>
> >> Why don't you really hurt him & KillFile him ? You fucking imbecile !
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Excuse me. I think you have mistaken me for someone who cares what you think.
>
>
> No mistake. You're a leftist fucking dimwit, & its not a thought of
> mine - its actual fact !
You apparently cannot read. I said I don't care what you think and you
are still giving me your worthless opinion.
Leftist?I'm a Conservative Republican,former Navy officer,an NRA
member and a member of the American Legion. You are about the dumbest
motherfucker to come down the pike in years. YOU are the mistake. Your
parents should have aborted your dumb ass.Because they did not, they
should be indicted for dumping toxic waste into the environment.
Anyone who pushes you off a cliff will probably win the Medal of
Honor.
Bruno
DisiLLusioneD
>DisiLLusioneD <Riff_Raff@d00ds_how_slurp_ladygerls.cum> wrote in message news:<54c42vkknlkfrb333...@4ax.com>...
>> In alt.music.white-power, kni...@indystart.com (Black Knight) typed:
>>
>> >DisiLLusioneD <Riff_Raff@d00ds_how_slurp_ladygerls.cum> wrote in message news:<q9c22vc70e3g3pio8...@4ax.com>...
>> >> In alt.skinheads, kni...@indystart.com (Black Knight) typed:
>> >>
>> >> >Amos Cassius D'ante <fAm...@excite.com> wrote in message news:<fAmosCD-FEC824...@news4.uncensored-news.com>...
>> >> >> In article <3E2056BE...@earthlink.net>,
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> ><deletia>
>> >> >
>> >> >> What did you expect from Bruno? He's admitted he's a "volunteer" for the
>> >> >> ADL. -Amos
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >Stop lying, you stupid asshole. I volunteered that informmation. That
>> >> >is not an "admission", you stupid lying son of a bitch, because it is
>> >> >neither illegal nor unethical.Do you understand now? You are one of
>> >> >the silliest most insignificant fools I have seen here in years. I
>> >> >will now ignore you because that is what you deserve.You do not
>> >> >matter.
>> >>
>> >> Why don't you really hurt him & KillFile him ? You fucking imbecile !
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Excuse me. I think you have mistaken me for someone who cares what you think.
>>
>>
>> No mistake. You're a leftist fucking dimwit, & its not a thought of
>> mine - its actual fact !
>
>You apparently cannot read. I said I don't care what you think
Yet I told you it was not something I *thought*, but actual fact. Who
is it who cannot read ?
>and you
>are still giving me your worthless opinion.
Its that worthless yet you just still had to go & hit that reply
button.
>You are about the dumbest
>motherfucker to come down the pike in years.
I've seen you use that line (or variant of) with so many other people,
it can hardly be considered a personal attack, mofo !
>YOU are the mistake. Your
>parents should have aborted your dumb ass.Because they did not, they
>should be indicted for dumping toxic waste into the environment.
Another pseudo-flame you're quite fond of. From memory, it was even
used in this very same thread. Get some new material, you cunted
dick-magnet !
>
>Anyone who pushes you off a cliff will probably win the Medal of
>Honor.
One thing is for sure it will *never* be you, you fearsome internet
warrior !
Black Knight
> In alt.music.white-power, kni...@indystart.com (Black Knight) typed:
>
> >DisiLLusioneD <Riff_Raff@d00ds_how_slurp_ladygerls.cum> wrote in message news:<q9c22vc70e3g3pio8...@4ax.com>...
> >> In alt.skinheads, kni...@indystart.com (Black Knight) typed:
> >>
> >> >Amos Cassius D'ante <fAm...@excite.com> wrote in message news:<fAmosCD-FEC824...@news4.uncensored-news.com>...
> >> >> In article <3E2056BE...@earthlink.net>,
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> ><deletia>
> >> >
> >> >> What did you expect from Bruno? He's admitted he's a "volunteer" for the
> >> >> ADL. -Amos
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >Stop lying, you stupid asshole. I volunteered that informmation. That
> >> >is not an "admission", you stupid lying son of a bitch, because it is
> >> >neither illegal nor unethical.Do you understand now? You are one of
> >> >the silliest most insignificant fools I have seen here in years. I
> >> >will now ignore you because that is what you deserve.You do not
> >> >matter.
> >>
> >> Why don't you really hurt him & KillFile him ? You fucking imbecile !
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Excuse me. I think you have mistaken me for someone who cares what you think.
>
>
> No mistake. You're a leftist fucking dimwit, & its not a thought of
> mine - its actual fact !
You need reading lessons, moron. The "thought" was mine, not yours.
Why don't you stop sucking your thumb long enough to read what I
posted again?
Bruno
Mountain INF
>
> YOu are calling me a "Communist"? You're an idiot. I'm a Conservative
> Republican, former U.S. Naval officer, NRA member and American Legion
> member.
> You just made an ass of yourself.
> >
> > so why don't you stop nit-picking and start discussing the
> > substatative issues.
>
> Listen, fool. You do not define the issues for me. What you call
> nit-picking are relevant matters.You are an overbearing, presumptuous
> ass and your decrees have no effect on me. Try to bully someone
> else.Get lost.
I'm sorry, but you're calling him an overbearing presumptuous ass? You're
calling him a bully? I have been reading this thread for a while now, and
the only person fitting this description has been you. While other people
are actually trying to engage in an intelligent discussion, we find your
pompous self throwing insults with little to no evidence to support your
claims. If you are going to dismiss the arguments of others, a least have
some evidence to back up your claims. I'm sure that your insults did not
work well in a military court.
>
> Bruno
Mountain INF
news:<8b7b01f5.03011...@posting.google.com>...
> > > > correct me if i'm wrong but isn't this pa dude? think about it.
> > >
> > >
> > > Request denied. Dismissed
> > >
> > > LTJG Bruno
> >
> > it fucking well is. it's the same virulence on a slightly different
tack.
>
> I am always virulent when I lose patience with fools who refuse to
> listen.Apparently, that includes you.
> >
Is it fools who refuse to listen, or fools that refuse to walk lock-step
with your opinions?
> > and once again what's with the "ltjg"?
>
> I was a U.S. Navy officer, commissioned in 1973. What the fuck do you
> think it is, dumbass?
>
What I'm wonderingis why you still sign off with your rank when you left in
1977. Do you think that it adds some respectability to your vitriolic
ramblings? It doesn't.
> Bruno
Navy Kurt
-moe howard
Navy Kurt
> > it fucking well is. it's the same virulence on a slightly different tack.
> >
> > and once again what's with the "ltjg"?
>
> If you were really Navy, you would understand Lieutenant Junior Grade,
> mental midget. Drop the Navy since it is obvious that you are a phony
> wannabe!
i know what the fuck a jg is douche bag. and it ain't exactly bragging
rights.
it's a baby butter bar with an attitude. it's a fuckin' bull ensign
with a hangover. you're the phony that claims to be conservative that
belongs to the a.d.l. . a cursory glance at the a.d.l. web site proves
you're a liar.
Navy Kurt
> aboard ship,he was interviewed by his Leading Petty Officer, who
> decided he wasn't smart enough to be anything but ballast. Ballast
> stays in one place and doesn't get around much, so he never met any
> officers.
>
> Bruno
i was an hm3 as mountain inf can verify. i've got a southwest asia
campaign ribbon, a kuwaiti liberation, hummanitarian service,
meritorious unit comm.,national defence and good conduct ribbons. and
others besides. i also happen to be a shellback. and ten years after
the fact i don't go waving my former rank around like a tinpot hero
bent on shoving my dubious opinions down people throats.
and if you got a beef with that name your time and place and we'll see
if you feel like giving me a little gear locker discipline.
otherwise your just a big mouth former junior zero. there's a reason
enlisted men can't stand junior officers. it's because most of you are
pompous self important idiots that don't know when to shut the fuck
up. i'd have been impressed if you'd been an lt. but then again an lt.
would know better than to run his big pinko mouth then claim to be a
conservative.
who are you kidding? a conservative? in the a.d.l.? that's tantamount
to a liberal in the american nazi party.
Navy Kurt
> calling him a bully? I have been reading this thread for a while now, and
> the only person fitting this description has been you. While other people
> are actually trying to engage in an intelligent discussion, we find your
> pompous self throwing insults with little to no evidence to support your
> claims. If you are going to dismiss the arguments of others, a least have
> some evidence to back up your claims. I'm sure that your insults did not
> work well in a military court.
>
> >
> > Bruno
and as mountain infantry can verify i was an corpsman in the usn. i
could care less if you were a jg. that simply means you either got
kicked out or failed to make grade.
how long have you been in chris? damn near as long as i've known you.
i can't believe the length this a.d.l. scumbag will go to trying to
make himself look important.
Black Knight
> "Black Knight" <kni...@indystart.com> wrote in message
> news:594c8e48.03011...@posting.google.com...
> > navy...@yahoo.com (Navy Kurt) wrote in message
> news:<8b7b01f5.03011...@posting.google.com>...
> > > > > correct me if i'm wrong but isn't this pa dude? think about it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Request denied. Dismissed
> > > >
> > > > LTJG Bruno
> > >
> > > it fucking well is. it's the same virulence on a slightly different
> tack.
> >
> > I am always virulent when I lose patience with fools who refuse to
> > listen.Apparently, that includes you.
> > >
>
> Is it fools who refuse to listen, or fools that refuse to walk lock-step
> with your opinions?
I already answered that question. My opinions are grounded in solid
knowledge. I get impatient with those that are grounded in stubborn
ignorance.
>
>
> > > and once again what's with the "ltjg"?
> >
> > I was a U.S. Navy officer, commissioned in 1973. What the fuck do you
> > think it is, dumbass?
> >
>
> What I'm wonderingis why you still sign off with your rank when you left in
> 1977.
Because I am proud of my Naval service.
Do you think that it adds some respectability to your vitriolic
> ramblings? It doesn't.
Well, that's your opinion. With that and 75 cents, you can buy a coke.
Be careful-don't hurt yourself.
Bruno
>
>
>
> > Bruno
Black Knight
> >
> > YOu are calling me a "Communist"? You're an idiot. I'm a Conservative
> > Republican, former U.S. Naval officer, NRA member and American Legion
> > member.
> > You just made an ass of yourself.
> > >
> > > so why don't you stop nit-picking and start discussing the
> > > substatative issues.
> >
> > Listen, fool. You do not define the issues for me. What you call
> > nit-picking are relevant matters.You are an overbearing, presumptuous
> > ass and your decrees have no effect on me. Try to bully someone
> > else.Get lost.
>
> I'm sorry, but you're calling him an overbearing presumptuous ass?
Correct.
You're
> calling him a bully?
Exactly.
I have been reading this thread for a while now, and
> the only person fitting this description has been you.
That's your opinion. With that and 75 cents, you can buy a Coke.
While other people
> are actually trying to engage in an intelligent discussion,
You are a liar. Sharkey told me to "get my head out of my ass". Is
that "intelligent discussion". He refuses to accept my factual
statements and accuses me of "obfuscating".Wotan told me to "fuck
off". You just called me "ignorant". You are a hypocrite.(or perhaps
you are simply lying)
we find your
> pompous self throwing insults with little to no evidence to support your
> claims. If you are going to dismiss the arguments of others, a least have
> some evidence to back up your claims.
I did exactly that. Why are you lying?
I'm sure that your insults did not
> work well in a military court.
Now you display your ignorance. A Navy legal officer does not go into
"military court".He is the prosecutor at Article 15 Captain's
Mast-Non-judicial punishment.
How did you decide that I insulted anyone in "military court"? Where
is your evidence of that? You are a hypocrite.(or perhaps you are just
lying)
Bruno
Michael Sharkey
Black Knight wrote
> Sharkey told me to "get my head out of my ass".
To be precise Bruno, I said "You obviously prefer keeping your head in
the sand, when it's not up your ass".
Either way, judging by your posts, it's apparently still there.
sharkey
DisiLLusioneD
>DisiLLusioneD <Riff_Raff@d00ds_how_slurp_ladygerls.cum> wrote in message news:<54c42vkknlkfrb333...@4ax.com>...
>> In alt.music.white-power, kni...@indystart.com (Black Knight) typed:
>>
>> >DisiLLusioneD <Riff_Raff@d00ds_how_slurp_ladygerls.cum> wrote in message news:<q9c22vc70e3g3pio8...@4ax.com>...
>> >> In alt.skinheads, kni...@indystart.com (Black Knight) typed:
>> >>
>> >> >Amos Cassius D'ante <fAm...@excite.com> wrote in message news:<fAmosCD-FEC824...@news4.uncensored-news.com>...
>> >> >> In article <3E2056BE...@earthlink.net>,
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> ><deletia>
>> >> >
>> >> >> What did you expect from Bruno? He's admitted he's a "volunteer" for the
>> >> >> ADL. -Amos
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >Stop lying, you stupid asshole. I volunteered that informmation. That
>> >> >is not an "admission", you stupid lying son of a bitch, because it is
>> >> >neither illegal nor unethical.Do you understand now? You are one of
>> >> >the silliest most insignificant fools I have seen here in years. I
>> >> >will now ignore you because that is what you deserve.You do not
>> >> >matter.
>> >>
>> >> Why don't you really hurt him & KillFile him ? You fucking imbecile !
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Excuse me. I think you have mistaken me for someone who cares what you think.
>>
>>
>> No mistake. You're a leftist fucking dimwit, & its not a thought of
>> mine - its actual fact !
>
>You need reading lessons, moron.
OK, we'll go once more, but this is teh last post I waste on you, for
teh time being.
For someone who has teh experiences of life that you claim, you should
be a wise being. Though you sure-as-fuck don't display that in your
usenet postings.
Oh, & before you try a IKYABWAI?, I'm not teh one whose claiming to
have sailed teh seven seas with Christopher Fucking Colombus !
>The "thought" was mine, not yours.
You said I had mistaken *you* for someone who cares what *I* *think*.
So first teh thought was mine, but now you want it back, you fucking
indian-giver, you !
>Why don't you stop sucking your thumb long enough to read what I
>posted again?
Heh. spnak!!!!!!!!1
DisiLLusioneD
<SNIP>
>Wotan told me to "fuck off".
He also called you a dimwit, dimwit !
Phantom Ryder
I never claimed to be with the ADL, mental midget. I'm not a LTjg for I
wasn't Navy. You asked what it was with Navy in your name. You can't have
been Navy and asked that moronic question. As for me, I'm retired Air
Force, O-4, Major to me, LCDR equivalent to you.
Black Knight
Thank you for supporting my position, you fucking slimebag cowardly
chickenshit asshole.
YOu calling someone else a "dimwit" is like Hitler calling someoine a
"racist".
YOu are one chickenshit moronic motherfucker. You got no balls and no
brains, scumbag punk. Go fuck your mother.
Black Knight
Why are you wasting time telling me anything? I don't believe a word
you say or take you seriously because you are a liar, a punk and a
moron.I already told you that, idiot.Have you forgotten already?
Go tell your Momma she's calling you, little idiot.
Bruno
Black Knight
> > calling him a bully? I have been reading this thread for a while now, and
> > the only person fitting this description has been you. While other people
> > are actually trying to engage in an intelligent discussion, we find your
> > pompous self throwing insults with little to no evidence to support your
> > claims. If you are going to dismiss the arguments of others, a least have
> > some evidence to back up your claims. I'm sure that your insults did not
> > work well in a military court.
> >
> > >
> > > Bruno
>
> and as mountain infantry can verify i was an corpsman in the usn.
He's a liar, too.
i
> could care less if you were a jg. that simply means you either got
> kicked out or failed to make grade.
More of your ignorance. You are LYING about being in the Navy.
You have to get promoted from Ensign to make JG. YOU ARE LYING ABOUT
BEING IN THE NAVY.
>
how long have you been in chris? damn near as long as i've known you.
> i can't believe the length this a.d.l. scumbag will go to trying to
> make himself look important.
You are a phony. Phantom Ryder already exposed you know nothing about
the Navy.
You're just a lying little chickenshit punk.
You're just a damn LIAR. You're also a coward and a chickenshit little
punk.
You're a chickenshit little crybaby.
Black Knight
That shows how IGNORANT you are. The ADL is not a political
organization. You are one stupid illiterate lying piece of shit.
>
> and as for a naval officer....if your still signing off as ltjg, 29
> years after you were an ensign, i'd say you weren't to fucking hot at
> taking orders from anyone. don't bullshit me sonny.
Don't call me "sonny" you slimy piece of lying shit. Did you hear
what I said. PUNK. COWARD. LIAR.
i can smell a
> bullshit artist a mile away.
You were never in the Navy. You are a lying punk and a coward.
You are a two-faced little boy with no balls.
Bruno
DisiLLusioneD
<SNiP>
>You are a two-faced little boy with no balls.
And thats not how you like 'em, eh ?
Eustice Clemp
Michael Sharkey
Black Knight wrote:
> That shows how IGNORANT you are. The ADL is not a political
> organization. You are one stupid illiterate lying piece of shit.
Who, in their right mind, would even consider the ADL a "political
organization"?
----------------------------------------------------
The Government and National Affairs Office in Washington, DC, advances
the League's policy goals in the nation's capital by identifying
emerging issues as they take shape in Washington and by crafting
legislative and policy responses.
The ADL name is recognized and respected by key policymakers who look to
us as a resource. The day-to-day
relationships maintained with members of Congress and the
Administration ensure the League a "seat at the table" as Federal policy
is made.
ADL also helps coordinate coalitions of organizations to amplify our
voice on priority issues such as hate crimes legislation and
international religious persecution.
The Office broadens ADL's impact internationally through its access to
U.S. officials and foreign diplomats in Washington. The Office raises
concerns directly with ambassadors and provides information to U.S.
officials about issues affecting the Jewish community or other
minorities to raise with foreign
heads of state.
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DisiLLusioneD
typed:
>HOW IS THIS NIGER IN ARE SIGHT?
Another fan, cant yer tell ?
kuntz
Check out these couple chapters of a really good book on the side.
You won't be able to put them down, so to speak, if you're into
politic.
peace,
http://www.churchofchomsky.org/coc.htm
Navy Kurt
> "military court".He is the prosecutor at Article 15 Captain's
> Mast-Non-judicial punishment.
a navy legal (jag officer) does not conduct an n.j.p.. the skipper
does hence the term "captains mast".
http://www.military-network.com/main_ucmj/SUBCHAPTERIII.html
once again you've been caught shooting your ignorant mouth off.
Navy Kurt
i did mention that a jg was an ensign with a hangover. so you shut the
fuck up.
you thought a jag officer conducyed an art. 15 so who's fucking liar.
so far i've seen nothing but lies and half truths, all pointing me to
the conclusion that you're a surplus store warrior. you can't get your
fucking story straight
about shit not even what i've said to you. you're a typical leftie
lying sack of shit.
you ain't a republican and the only contact you've ever had with the
n.r.a. was when you were spying on them for the pro-gun control,
pro-abortion, anti-christian, anti-democratic a.d. fuckin' l.. at
least with a white nationalist i know where he stands. all you do is
lie and obfuscate.
as for coward your the one hiding behind a computer screaming that
you're a tin-pot hero at a guy (mountain inf.) that i happen to know
to be an up standing
dog-face and former crew member. that's crew as in we were in the same
skinhead gang together.
so before you try your liberal shout down tactics make sure you do it
on someone timid enough to be affected by it. don't do it to someone
who'll kick your teeth in and not miss a minute sleep.
and remember...once upon a time guys like me and sharkey fought one
another in the streets over racism and anti-racism. it was the
commie-liberal bullshit from
asshole like you that made me realize that the sharkeys of the world
weren't half the threat to my life and liberty that the a.d.l.,
j.d.l., n.o.i., and a.r.a. and other like minded groups are. you were
never an ally. you were a marxist exploiting the idealism of young
hoods like me. now we've woken up to
who you really are and will fight the socialist take over tooth and
nail.
dickheads like you tried to fuck well intended young men and women
like me over for power and money and we'll never forget or forgive.
i'm a real american. your a totalitarian hiding behind "human rights".
now fuck off!
Navy Kurt
> > teh time being.
> > For someone who has teh experiences of life that you claim, you should
> > be a wise being. Though you sure-as-fuck don't display that in your
> > usenet postings.
>
> Why are you wasting time telling me anything? I don't believe a word
> you say or take you seriously because you are a liar, a punk and a
> moron.I already told you that, idiot.Have you forgotten already?
>
> Go tell your Momma she's calling you, little idiot.
>
>
> Bruno
everyone is a liar but you.
need i remind you that while dickheads like you we're hiding behind
the police guys like me we're literally fighting in the streets. all
you could think to do was have your puppet congressmen confiscate our
hard earn paychecks and give the money to welfare cheats that would
kill you for a 15 dollar rock of crack cocaine. slowly but surely we
started to realize that while white nationalist may have been wrong
about blacks they were definately onto the truth regarding
you commies. it's so insisious that i doubt you even know you're a
communist.
now-a-days it's called liberalism.
liberalism use to mean one man, one vote. now it means activist judges
educated by a higher learning system that's been rendered evil by
gramscian communism.
liberalism once stood against lynching blacks and now stands for
hanging whites out to dry. liberalism once sought to fight government
abuse but now drives the same government to pillage and oppress the
majority and hand over the nation lock stock and barrel to the new
priveledged minority that's to drug addled, over sexed and uneducated
to see you for what you are. communists.
we've been cheated and back-stabbed by the likes of you. and we're
pissed. we will not sit by while or children are indoctrinated by
atheist's, n.a.m.b.l.a.,
islamo-fascist, bloods, crips and latin drug dealers.
we are the genetic and ideological decendant's of the victors of the
american revolution, the first and second world war and korea. you
fucked our fathers over in korea and vietnam. you have killed tens of
thousands of us by ignoring
gulf war syndrome. and now you are on our shit list. do yourself a
favor and disappear scumbag.
Navy Kurt
> wasn't Navy. You asked what it was with Navy in your name. You can't have
> been Navy and asked that moronic question. As for me, I'm retired Air
> Force, O-4, Major to me, LCDR equivalent to you.
so bruno calls in the cavalry. only he doesn't have one. you're either
him posting
under a different name or you're former military man that has switched
sides because you don't want to lose. i hope you liberal masters don't
yank your retirement pay the way they did with your right to be
medically taken care of.
that was a fast one. use to be (for outsiders who are reading this
post) that military retirees use to be entitled to free healthcare for
the rest of their lives. some judge now decided that the govt. only
has to treat them on a space available basis at a v.a. hospital.
undoubtedly the savings will be passed on to some third world trash
presently being imported and trained to do my job. it isn't
a mentally challenging job. but mohamed the fucking somali has to
learn about in door plumbing before they can cut him loose at the
airport. and since i do alot of heavy lifting muhamed will need food
stamps so he can buy meat. the only thing he's eaten in 15 years is
the vitamin enriched sacks of flour the u.n. airdropped to him (paid
for by u.s. tax payers).
but once his strength returns he'll get my job, less a massive paycut
and no bathroom breaks. and i assume he'll support the traitorous
bastards who gave him my property when they finally seize power and
install a dictatorship. the u.s. flag will be replaced with a u.n.
flag only it won't be peaceful shade of baby blue it will be red.
so before you stick up for bruno, if you aren't just another, i.d.
adopted by bruno, you should be praying that the red u.n. flag isn't
dyed in the blood of misguided careerist who are disposed of after you
out live your usefulness to your new pals.
Navy Kurt
name your place chickenshit. btw very nice of you to totally ignore
the proof of the a.d.l.'s real intentions. i posted it from their own
website. instead of adressing the evidence presented you, once again
attempt to distract everyone from your real purpose. it may work
against weak kneed politicos but not me.
facts are the facts. in this case i've posted your own organization
words as an indictment. these aren't my words linked here. they are
the a.d.l.'s. no need for foot notes, no chance to deny or weasle your
way out. not even empty threat's on your part can alter what's written
on those pages.
so puff up your chest and make your empty threats. and everyone else
can read the links for themselves. and in case you feel tough e-mail
me and name the time and place.
Navy Kurt
> chickenshit asshole.
>
> YOu calling someone else a "dimwit" is like Hitler calling someoine a
> "racist".
> YOu are one chickenshit moronic motherfucker. You got no balls and no
> brains, scumbag punk. Go fuck your mother.
ha! ha! ha! very brave of you to shout challenges over the internet.
you have no intentions of ever walking the walk of course.
Mountain INF
You're
> > calling him a bully? I have been reading this thread for a while now,
and
> > the only person fitting this description has been you. While other
people
> > are actually trying to engage in an intelligent discussion, we find your
> > pompous self throwing insults with little to no evidence to support your
> > claims. If you are going to dismiss the arguments of others, a least
have
> > some evidence to back up your claims. I'm sure that your insults did not
> > work well in a military court.
> >
> > >
> > > Bruno
>
> and as mountain infantry can verify i was an corpsman in the usn. i
> could care less if you were a jg. that simply means you either got
> kicked out or failed to make grade.
> how long have you been in chris?
It was 11 years last December.
damn near as long as i've known you.
> i can't believe the length this a.d.l. scumbag will go to trying to
> make himself look important.
If I am correct, isn't a LTJG just an O-2? Shit, if that's the case, then
that's not something to put down on a signature, especially if it was back
in '77. BTW, why the hell does the navy have three million different names
for particular ranks. I went to Newport last month and had this kid in front
of me an for the life of me, I didn't know what to call him. I figured that
if I called him squid, he might get pissed off.
Mountain INF
"Michael Sharkey" <shar...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Mountain INF
news:<8b7b01f5.03011...@posting.google.com>...
> > > I'm sorry, but you're calling him an overbearing presumptuous ass?
You're
> > > calling him a bully? I have been reading this thread for a while now,
and
> > > the only person fitting this description has been you. While other
people
> > > are actually trying to engage in an intelligent discussion, we find
your
> > > pompous self throwing insults with little to no evidence to support
your
> > > claims. If you are going to dismiss the arguments of others, a least
have
> > > some evidence to back up your claims. I'm sure that your insults did
not
> > > work well in a military court.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Bruno
> >
> > and as mountain infantry can verify i was an corpsman in the usn.
>
> He's a liar, too.
> i
Again, anything that does not conform to your version of reality is
vehemently denied. If also seems as more evidence presented contra your
positions is presented, the more angry and insulting you get. You must have
made one shitty officer.
> > could care less if you were a jg. that simply means you either got
> > kicked out or failed to make grade.
>
> More of your ignorance. You are LYING about being in the Navy.
> You have to get promoted from Ensign to make JG. YOU ARE LYING ABOUT
> BEING IN THE NAVY.
Nope, can't say that he has. I've seen his discharge certificate. And I'm
also sure that I could also get a copy of his DD 214. Do you even know what
a DD 214 is, "sir?"
>
>
> >
>
> how long have you been in chris? damn near as long as i've known you.
> > i can't believe the length this a.d.l. scumbag will go to trying to
> > make himself look important.
>
>
>
> You are a phony. Phantom Ryder already exposed you know nothing about
> the Navy.
Paraphrasing your own words, that is opinion, not fact. Amazing how your
words can come back to haunt you.
Mountain INF
The insult slinging I believe was started by you when you refuted claims
about the a.d.l. It just snowballed from there. If you are willing to engage
in intelligent discussion, I'm sure that most here would be willing.
However, your capability for the aforementioned discussion is questionable.
>
>
>
>
> we find your
> > pompous self throwing insults with little to no evidence to support your
> > claims. If you are going to dismiss the arguments of others, a least
have
> > some evidence to back up your claims.
>
> I did exactly that. Why are you lying?
I have to admit, I could give two shits about the adl. However, In the
beginning, you did not give much irrefutable evidence, only stuff that was
open to interpretation. As more evidence was given against you you turned to
mudslining. You do it quite well, too. Did you run for office?
>
>
> I'm sure that your insults did not
> > work well in a military court.
>
> Now you display your ignorance. A Navy legal officer does not go into
> "military court".He is the prosecutor at Article 15 Captain's
> Mast-Non-judicial punishment.
>
> How did you decide that I insulted anyone in "military court"? Where
> is your evidence of that? You are a hypocrite.(or perhaps you are just
> lying)
My decsion that you insulted someone in a military court is based on two
things, one of which I will admit is ignorance. One: I am in the Army and I
only have a vague idea how the navy writes out ranks along with MOS's.
Two: personality traits tend to be mostly formulated by early childhood, 8
years old at the latest. Once these personality traits are acquired, they
tend to stick with us for the rest of our lives, barring any major traumatic
events etc, etc. I won't bore you with the details. Judging my your current
statements, it appears that you are an overbearing who refuses to
acknowledge arguements against any postion you have taken. Boy the guys in
your section must have loved you. I'm surprised no blanket parties occured
on ship.
And Bruno.....being a Lieutenant is nothing to really crow about. The
majority of lieutenants I have met from all services didn't know whether
they were shot, fucked, or powder burned.
>
>
> Bruno
Mountain INF
just done by an O-6?
"Navy Kurt" <navy...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Mountain INF
"Eustice Clemp" <ecl...@skrewdriver.org> wrote in message
news:3e47e8b0...@pita.alt.net...
> HOW IS THIS NIGER IN ARE SIGHT?
Are we talking about the African country or your ignorance here?
Mountain INF
"Black Knight" <kni...@indystart.com> wrote in message
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> "Mountain INF" <chrisr...@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > navy...@yahoo.com (Navy Kurt) wrote in message
> > news:<8b7b01f5.03011...@posting.google.com>...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Request denied. Dismissed
> > > > >
> > > > > LTJG Bruno
> > > >
> > > > it fucking well is. it's the same virulence on a slightly different
> > tack.
> > >
> > > listen.Apparently, that includes you.
> > > >
> >
> > Is it fools who refuse to listen, or fools that refuse to walk lock-step
> > with your opinions?
>
> I already answered that question. My opinions are grounded in solid
> knowledge. I get impatient with those that are grounded in stubborn
> ignorance.
Alright, we'll look at the spying thing. Yes the courts might have stated
that the ADL is protected as a journalistic agency. If you go by the
straight definition of spying, they are spying.
As for your military service. You did give a number of stations, positions
etc. to back up your claims you were in the military. This goes back to your
whole argument against the journalist from the San Fran Chronicle. Just
because you say it's so does not mean it's so. Unless you show me a DD 214
or some other form of supporting documentation, I can only take your words
at face value. The same goes with your other claims: NRA, etc., etc. Judging
from the stands that the ADL has taken on such issues, I would have to say
the likelihood of your membership is slim.
> >
> >
> > > > and once again what's with the "ltjg"?
> > >
> > > I was a U.S. Navy officer, commissioned in 1973. What the fuck do you
> > > think it is, dumbass?
> > >
> >
> > What I'm wonderingis why you still sign off with your rank when you left
in
> > 1977.
>
> Because I am proud of my Naval service.
I'm proud of my Army service, but that doesn't mean I sign off with my rank.
If you are retired, that is one thing, but if you were just in for 6 years,
that's just a little sad.
>
> Do you think that it adds some respectability to your vitriolic
> > ramblings? It doesn't.
>
> Well, that's your opinion. With that and 75 cents, you can buy a coke.
>
> Be careful-don't hurt yourself.
>
> Bruno
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > > Bruno
Mountain INF
> > Maybe he was in the Navy, airdale. Ten minutes after he reported
> > aboard ship,he was interviewed by his Leading Petty Officer, who
> > decided he wasn't smart enough to be anything but ballast. Ballast
> > stays in one place and doesn't get around much, so he never met any
> > officers.
> >
> > Bruno
>
> i was an hm3 as mountain inf can verify. i've got a southwest asia
> campaign ribbon, a kuwaiti liberation, hummanitarian service,
> meritorious unit comm.,national defence and good conduct ribbons. and
> others besides. i also happen to be a shellback. and ten years after
> the fact i don't go waving my former rank around like a tinpot hero
> bent on shoving my dubious opinions down people throats.
> and if you got a beef with that name your time and place and we'll see
> if you feel like giving me a little gear locker discipline.
I'm assuming that gear locker discipline is wall-to-wall counseling. And
what the hell's a shellback?
> otherwise your just a big mouth former junior zero. there's a reason
> enlisted men can't stand junior officers. it's because most of you are
> pompous self important idiots that don't know when to shut the fuck
> up. i'd have been impressed if you'd been an lt. but then again an lt.
> would know better than to run his big pinko mouth then claim to be a
> conservative.
>
> who are you kidding? a conservative? in the a.d.l.? that's tantamount
> to a liberal in the american nazi party.
Navy Kurt
> what the hell's a shellback?
"initiated" into the loyal order of the deep. they make you crawl
aouind in garbage. the paddle you and make you eat nasty shit like
eggs with worstechire sauce, food coloring and the shells cooked in.
you get paddled and made to bark like a dog. you know fun stuff.
we won't mention baby neptune or the wog queen.
Navy Kurt
> For you guys, does captains mast have field and company grade, or just it
> just done by an O-6?
case he can appoint someone to conduct the hearing for him.
Navy Kurt
>
> damn near as long as i've known you.
> > i can't believe the length this a.d.l. scumbag will go to trying to
> > make himself look important.
>
> If I am correct, isn't a LTJG just an O-2? Shit, if that's the case, then
> that's not something to put down on a signature, especially if it was back
> in '77. BTW, why the hell does the navy have three million different names
> for particular ranks. I went to Newport last month and had this kid in front
> of me an for the life of me, I didn't know what to call him. I figured that
> if I called him squid, he might get pissed off.
course altered and americanized them. tradition is held onto like a
life preserver in the navy.
in the late 70's they switched to the "salt and pepper" uniforms that
more closely resemble uniforms of the other branches. it's the cheif's
winter dress uniform. there was such an out cry that they switched
back to the "cracker jacks".
and if you don't recall the sailors rank title just call him "hey
sailor" or "shipmate".
simo...@webtv.com
Phantom Ryder
> > wasn't Navy. You asked what it was with Navy in your name. You can't
have
> > been Navy and asked that moronic question. As for me, I'm retired Air
> > Force, O-4, Major to me, LCDR equivalent to you.
>
> so bruno calls in the cavalry. only he doesn't have one. you're either
> him posting
> under a different name or you're former military man that has switched
> sides because you don't want to lose. i hope you liberal masters don't
> yank your retirement pay the way they did with your right to be
> medically taken care of.
You are so pathetic of a loser, little boy that I don't know what to make of
you. You answered to me thinking you were answering to Bruno. We are
different people, moron.
> that was a fast one. use to be (for outsiders who are reading this
> post) that military retirees use to be entitled to free healthcare for
> the rest of their lives. some judge now decided that the govt. only
> has to treat them on a space available basis at a v.a. hospital.
> undoubtedly the savings will be passed on to some third world trash
> presently being imported and trained to do my job. it isn't
> a mentally challenging job. but mohamed the fucking somali has to
> learn about in door plumbing before they can cut him loose at the
> airport. and since i do alot of heavy lifting muhamed will need food
> stamps so he can buy meat. the only thing he's eaten in 15 years is
> the vitamin enriched sacks of flour the u.n. airdropped to him (paid
> for by u.s. tax payers).
Totally free health care is still being litigated in the courts for the
older retirees (before the 60s), but those of us who came in later than that
never had TOTALLY free health care promised. Space-A was all that was
promised.
> but once his strength returns he'll get my job, less a massive paycut
> and no bathroom breaks. and i assume he'll support the traitorous
> bastards who gave him my property when they finally seize power and
> install a dictatorship. the u.s. flag will be replaced with a u.n.
> flag only it won't be peaceful shade of baby blue it will be red.
> so before you stick up for bruno, if you aren't just another, i.d.
> adopted by bruno, you should be praying that the red u.n. flag isn't
> dyed in the blood of misguided careerist who are disposed of after you
> out live your usefulness to your new pals.
Already you have outlived your usefulness. You obviously are a liar since
you didn't know what a LTjg was. What a moron.
--
Phantom Ryder
"Cave Putorium"
Mountain INF
> course altered and americanized them. tradition is held onto like a
> life preserver in the navy.
> in the late 70's they switched to the "salt and pepper" uniforms that
> more closely resemble uniforms of the other branches. it's the cheif's
> winter dress uniform. there was such an out cry that they switched
> back to the "cracker jacks".
> and if you don't recall the sailors rank title just call him "hey
> sailor" or "shipmate".
How about Cum? Get it? Seaman?
Phantom Ryder
What a moron you are. You forget the blacks who fought in those same wars
you listed. The white racist lost in 1865. So, go back under your shell
and run away, little boy. Your momma is calling you to come to bed.
Black Knight
> > Now you display your ignorance. A Navy legal officer does not go into
> > "military court".He is the prosecutor at Article 15 Captain's
> > Mast-Non-judicial punishment.
>
> a navy legal (jag officer) does not conduct an n.j.p.. the skipper
> does hence the term "captains mast".
You are still lying and ignorant. A Navy legal officer like I was is
NOT a member of JAG, fool.JAG corp are lawyers and I am not one.
That's lie number ONE
Lie number TWO-the Captain makes the decision on the punishment after
hearing the facts, but the legal officer prepares the charges and acts
as the prosecutor. The Captain is the judge, NOT the prosecutor, you
lying little fuckhead.
>
.
You don't know jackshit about the Navy-you never served and you are a
lying little piece of ignorant shit.
Why are you afraid to contact the Navy and verify what I said about my
service?
What's the problem, coward? Afraid to be exposed as a liar?
Bruno
Black Knight
> "Navy Kurt" <navy...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:8b7b01f5.03011...@posting.google.com...
> > >
> tack.
> > > >
> > >
> > > mental midget. Drop the Navy since it is obvious that you are a phony
> > > wannabe!
> >
> > i know what the fuck a jg is douche bag. and it ain't exactly bragging
> > rights.
> > it's a baby butter bar with an attitude. it's a fuckin' bull ensign
> > with a hangover. you're the phony that claims to be conservative that
> > belongs to the a.d.l. . a cursory glance at the a.d.l. web site proves
> > you're a liar.
>
> I never claimed to be with the ADL, mental midget. I'm not a LTjg for I
> wasn't Navy. You asked what it was with Navy in your name. You can't have
> been Navy and asked that moronic question. As for me, I'm retired Air
> Force, O-4, Major to me, LCDR equivalent to you.
Do you see how Kurtsie LIES? I put LTJG before my name only ONCE in a
response to Wotan. Kurtsie now accuses me of "bragging".
He is so stupid he can't even distinguish between a retired Air Force
pilot(you) and a Navy officer who only served 6 years(me). Now he's so
fucked up in his miniscule nonoperative brain that he thinks you are
in the ADL.
I wonder how the retarded little phony can claim to tell anything
about either of us from the ADL website-it doesn't mention either one
of us.
I'm not even a staff member of ADL-I volunteered my time(no pay) to
help them on occasion and I haven't done that since I retired 6 months
ago.This was all explained in detail in my previous posts on
alt.revisionism.
The incidents I reported to them all took place IN PUBLIC, either on
the Internet or in San Diego where I used to live. Yet, these retarded
dimwits think I'm a spy. What a joke.HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Michael Sharkey
Black Knight wrote:
> Why are you afraid to contact the Navy and verify what I said about my
> service?
Hey Kurt,
Does the Navy really keep records going back that far?
sharkey
Phantom Ryder
What do you expect from the mentally challenged? Sometimes these "warrior
wannabes" think they are the be all, end all. Navy Kurt put his foot in his
mouth with the "what is an LTJG". Hell, even I knew that and I only spent
one night on a Navy base (Key West NAS). Then he is so slow witted that he
confuses Navy with Air Force.
Not being Jewish, I haven't volunteered my time with ADL, rather I spend it
with high school kids trying to help them become better citizens. Looking
at the low level here, anything is an improvement. I may have problems with
people who are different from me, but it is a lack of character in them that
I despise; not their ancestry.
You a spy, huh? Well, anything is possible to these "conspiracy" theorists.
I wonder what they think is in "Area 51"?
Michael Sharkey
Black Knight wrote:
> I'm not even a staff member of ADL-I volunteered my time(no pay) to
> help them on occasion and I haven't done that since I retired 6 months
> ago.This was all explained in detail in my previous posts on
> alt.revisionism.
Sorry I missed your bio, since it sounds scintillating. Nevertheless . .
Kurt, Jess, Chris, Riff and myself are all regulars on alt.skinheads
and attempt to avoid the 'questionable' newsgroups like alt.revisionism.
We skins prefer a more civilized discussion, unless provoked by
arrogance, stupidity and foul language. We >are< conservatives, you know.
> The incidents I reported to them all took place IN PUBLIC, either on
> the Internet or in San Diego where I used to live.
> Yet, these retarded
> dimwits think I'm a spy.
Admittedly, it's pretty ridiculous to think that >you< would have what
it takes to be involved in espionage. Besides lacking the temperament,
when provoked you really do 'volunteer' way too much information (
personal and/or otherwise).
A spy . . no. A snitch . . yes.
> What a joke.HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Don't feel badly. Some people never realize their limitations. At least
you can laugh at yourself.
sharkey