How Did Raybeez Die?
Yung Fat Ho
Thanks.
Marcus
>
>Any info is appreciated.
>
>Thanks.
>
He died go to
http://www.victoryrecords.com/ray.html
for a tribute
Marcus
Pounding the Pavement
Fanzine and Small Mailorder
Soul-Ska-Reggae
http://www.zyworld.com/ptpzine
S.S. Social Service
>
>Thanks.
>
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"ok you have a wife..and you bone her, but just because you're boning other
women once in a while...doesn't make them your wives"
Derek Scott Booth
Yung Fat Ho
they started up. They were from my same crew in Chicago!
Thanks for the link.
In article <20000530003355...@ng-ba1.aol.com>,
ptp...@aol.commiessuck (Marcus ) wrote:
Yung Fat Ho
Any info?
In article <20000530003355...@ng-ba1.aol.com>,
ptp...@aol.commiessuck (Marcus ) wrote:
Son of Oi
In article <hnicharge-D4330...@news.flashcom.net>,
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The way you stand alone and proud, the way you crop your hair
Violence in your boots and braces, Violence in your stare
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Before you buy.
Haole
> Hey man... that site didn't say a thing about what killed the man.
>
> Any info?
Pneumonia.
But for a big guy like Raybees was...I think we all know what that means.
-Haole
PS I spent a lot of time in Chicago in the late 80s (say, 87-90 or so). I
ran with Brew City at the time. Think we ever crossed paths?
Yung Fat Ho
Do you remember Tony Velez? Or George (the Black skin)? Or those girls
they called "The Chicken Heads"? Naomi, Crystal and I can't remember the
other girls name.
I'm sure you recall Wild Kingdom and Int'l Jet Set. Whatever happened to
them?
Who do you remember from Chicago?
Sonny?
Mickey?
Mike Panic?
Corky?
Dwayne?
Jerry?
Joel Mandell?
Any of them?
Were you at "The Syndicate" meeting?
Do you remember when the Syndicate Skins went to Atomic Records and
forced them to destroy all those Skrewdriver records? That was classic.
--
In article
<Majuro-0506...@ras-c5800-1-50-247.dialup.wisc.edu>,
Haole
Ho <hnic...@usa.net> wrote:
> Yeah, I remember the Brew City Crew.
> Do you remember Tony Velez?
I've been friends with Tony since 7th grade.
>Or George (the Black skin)?
You mean Jeff, I'm sure.
>Or those girls
> they called "The Chicken Heads"? Naomi, Crystal and I can't remember the
> other girls name.
Oh yeah......there were a bunch of Chicken heads, but I definately
remember Naomi. She screwed me out of about 150 LPs. Of course, last I saw
of her she had 3 kids by 3 guys and was on welfare living in some dump, so
I don't feel too bad.
> I'm sure you recall Wild Kingdom and Int'l Jet Set. Whatever happened to
> them?
The cool guys from Wild Kingdom are now in a band called 'Citizen King'.
Last year thay had a top 40 hit..'Better Days'.
> Who do you remember from Chicago?
> Sonny?
Definately.
> Mike Panic?
Him too.
> Any of them?
Its been so long now. I'm sure if I went back through some of my old stuff
I would remember some more guys.
> Were you at "The Syndicate" meeting?
Of course! We met in Milwaukee at least once, in Minneapolis a couple of
times, and traveled to Chi-town too.
> Do you remember when the Syndicate Skins went to Atomic Records and
> forced them to destroy all those Skrewdriver records? That was classic.
That WAS classic. Ah, the memories!
-Haole
80's Chicago skin
wrote:
>Hey Haole,
>
>If you remember all that stuff then I almost *definitely* know you.
>
>Let me ask you this...
>
>Were you in Chicago on New Years Eve... I think it was 1987 -> 1988?
>This was a Midwest Skinhead tradition to convene in Chicago on New Years
>and rip the town apart. This particular year Mad Dog and Sonny got
>ambushed by the Medusa Skins (including Tezz from Section 5 | Broken
>Bones | The Business (currently)). Mad Dog (Joe) came up Mickey's stairs
>with his head a mass of running read from the bottle that Zee had
>administered to his dome.
>
>Do you remember this incident?
>
>A few of us who were nearby took the opportunity to serve up a beatdown
>to the Medusa Skins and they never touched a Syndicate Skin ever again.
Actually, one of you stabbed Tezz. They probably left you alone
because instead of fighting like a man, someone took it too far.
As for Sonny, he probably deserved it. He was a smart ass who thought
he was king of the skins. Hell, when he first showed up down there he
had a fucking thin white mohawk. The only person stupider than Sonny
was his white shadow, big dumb Don.
And I'm not sticking up for any of those idiotic "Medusa Skins"
either. Jerry and Joel were the two biggest egotistical assholes to
ever walk the streets of Chicago (especially Joel). Zee, if it's the
same Zee with the ACAB tattoo on his arm, was a fucking poseur when I
first met him (86?). He became a real prick too. In fact, most of
the "skins" that hung around down in that area were either elitist
jackoffs or complete poseurs. I can remember seeing kids that looked
like gang members showing up with certain people like Marty and then a
week later they had a bomber and short hair. A week after that they
had Docs. Gimme a fuckin break.
Yung Fat Ho
skin <old...@windycity.org> wrote:
> Actually, one of you stabbed Tezz. They probably left you alone
> because instead of fighting like a man, someone took it too far.
>
If Tezz got stabbed it wasn't THAT night. I can tell you for certain
that NO weapon was used that evening. If he got stabbed in another
incident later... then that's another story.
> As for Sonny, he probably deserved it. He was a smart ass who thought
> he was king of the skins. Hell, when he first showed up down there he
> had a fucking thin white mohawk. The only person stupider than Sonny
> was his white shadow, big dumb Don.
Ah yes... Don. He definitely wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Not by a longshot.
>
> And I'm not sticking up for any of those idiotic "Medusa Skins"
> either. Jerry and Joel were the two biggest egotistical assholes to
> ever walk the streets of Chicago (especially Joel). Zee, if it's the
> same Zee with the ACAB tattoo on his arm, was a fucking poseur when I
> first met him (86?). He became a real prick too. In fact, most of
> the "skins" that hung around down in that area were either elitist
> jackoffs or complete poseurs. I can remember seeing kids that looked
> like gang members showing up with certain people like Marty and then a
> week later they had a bomber and short hair. A week after that they
> had Docs. Gimme a fuckin break.
Yes, I can concur all of this. But Marty was/is a true street soldier. A
street thug going skin is no better/worse than a headbanger/dirthead
turning skin on the WP side. And that was *at least* as common as the
gangbangers joining the various squads.
Mickey Skins
Northside Crew
Southside Crew
ARA/S.H.A.R.P.
Chicago Rude Boys
S.H.O.C. (all of the above fell under the SHOC banner)
The Bomber Boys
Who are you? My guess is that you are from the Bomber crew. Perhaps
Sparky? Let me know. I'm guessing you are from the Bomber Boys cos you
don't say anything negative about that crew and they were one of the Big
Three crews (SHOC, Bomber Boys and Jerry's Kids "The Medusa Skins").
Joel was/is a bitch. Always will be. I have heard some sick rumors about
that kid.
If you ain't Sparky then you might be Joe Kelly.
Then again, you could be Rob (redhead Rob of that group Macabre) or you
could be Chris the German kid. I can't recall the last name. I'm talking
about the tall dude who would jump off the balcony into the crowd at the
Metro.
So, what is it then?
Yung Fat Ho
I can tell from your tone and your familiarity with the early days
(Sonny's mohawk) that you are probably Perry Hardy.
Well, am I right?
If you are Perry, how are things going with The Templars? I'll check you
out next time you are in my town.
Later.
--
OldSkin
wrote:
>In article <16crks45pjpacsuhi...@4ax.com>, 80's Chicago
>skin <old...@windycity.org> wrote:
>
>> Actually, one of you stabbed Tezz. They probably left you alone
>> because instead of fighting like a man, someone took it too far.
>>
>
>If Tezz got stabbed it wasn't THAT night. I can tell you for certain
>that NO weapon was used that evening. If he got stabbed in another
>incident later... then that's another story.
It must've been then. Funny thing about Terry is that he isn't really
a skinhead. Ask him if he is and he'll say no. During the early
nineties when Terry (and I for that matter) still lived in Chicago we
were best of friends and I miss him alot.
>> As for Sonny, he probably deserved it. He was a smart ass who thought
>> he was king of the skins. Hell, when he first showed up down there he
>> had a fucking thin white mohawk. The only person stupider than Sonny
>> was his white shadow, big dumb Don.
>
>Ah yes... Don. He definitely wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer.
>Not by a longshot.
I once gave Don a ride home out to the suburbs. He was just
so....dumb. I liked playing around with his mind. I remember that I
was telling him stuff like, "Yeah I wrote this big SHOC on my bedroom
wall, it's really cool..." He would just give the usual banter he
memorized. I'm sure he thought I was a dork or something but I just
couldn't believe an idiot like this was a "skinhead." One thing that
always stuck in my mind was that one night he had on these pants that
seemed to be shortened to the perfect length (just below the top of
his boot) but when you got closer you could see that he had cut them
straight across with a scissors instead of actually hemming them and
there were strings and stuff hanging down. Looked really tatty.
Pathetic.
>> And I'm not sticking up for any of those idiotic "Medusa Skins"
>> either. Jerry and Joel were the two biggest egotistical assholes to
>> ever walk the streets of Chicago (especially Joel). Zee, if it's the
>> same Zee with the ACAB tattoo on his arm, was a fucking poseur when I
>> first met him (86?). He became a real prick too. In fact, most of
>> the "skins" that hung around down in that area were either elitist
>> jackoffs or complete poseurs. I can remember seeing kids that looked
>> like gang members showing up with certain people like Marty and then a
>> week later they had a bomber and short hair. A week after that they
>> had Docs. Gimme a fuckin break.
>
>Yes, I can concur all of this. But Marty was/is a true street soldier. A
>street thug going skin is no better/worse than a headbanger/dirthead
>turning skin on the WP side. And that was *at least* as common as the
>gangbangers joining the various squads.
For all of Marty's brutishness I will admit he knew more about
"skinhead" than the majority of rejects down there. He did like to
cause problems though. I remember when The Business played at my
friend Gretchen's bar (Circuits) she pointed Marty and a couple of his
friends out to Mickey Fitz and asked him to talk to them becasue they
always started fights. Mickey had a few words with them and they
wound up behaving themselves the rest of the evening. Another memory
was one night at a party at Hell House (RIP) a big brawl erupted with
some bald (not skin) older fuck that looked like El Duce. My friend
Juli jumped on his back (I think) and he punched here and there were
skins everywhere and beer flying, etc. And I just remember Marty
yelling at the guy, "Don't mess with the skinheads, man! Don't mess
with the skinheads!" It wasn't like a "Yeah we showed you!" kinda
thing, it was like a warning, "You don't want this, so back off." It
was just so funny... "Don't mess with the skinheads man!" LOL!
>Mickey Skins
>Northside Crew
>Southside Crew
>ARA/S.H.A.R.P.
>Chicago Rude Boys
>S.H.O.C. (all of the above fell under the SHOC banner)
>The Bomber Boys
>
>Who are you? My guess is that you are from the Bomber crew. Perhaps
>Sparky? Let me know. I'm guessing you are from the Bomber Boys cos you
>don't say anything negative about that crew and they were one of the Big
>Three crews (SHOC, Bomber Boys and Jerry's Kids "The Medusa Skins").
I never was a part of a "crew." I was always on the fringe. I
started going down there (Aetna Park and then Medusa's area) probably
in 1985 or so. Maybe '86. I won't give my name because back then
(still?) if you didn't tow the line or hang out and agree with SHOC,
you were labeled a nazi. I thought SHOC and all those guys were
pretty lame. Some labeled me a nazi although the first Skrewdriver I
ever heard was through Dwayne (black skinhead for those of you that
don't know). I hung out with Dwayne more than anybody back in the
early days. I will tell you one story though:
I don't know if you read that idiotic book "American Skin" but there
is a scene in that book that actually happened and I was there. The
scene where the mulatto skin "Jermane" (sp?) - who was Dwayne - hits a
nazi chick's pit bull with a cane outside of Dunkin' Donuts. That
actually happened and it was my cane. Me and Dwayne were riding in my
car (probably with another skin or two) coming back from the Belmont
rocks. As we entered the intersection where Dunkin' Donuts is he
shouted "pull over! pull over! Nazis!" I pulled over in front of
Dunkin' Donuts and we all jumped out. Dwayne had grabbed my cane
which was a really nice heavy one. (Even Jerry Rogers said "nice
cane" to me once. I guess I should feel special.) In the book it is
some white trash girl named Corny (based on Amy Strickland due to the
later beating, etc.) but it was actually two skin girls, one of which
if I remember correctly, was Morgan Kipp (Clark Martell's girlfriend).
Anyway, Dwayne started hassling them and then WHAM! hits the dog in
the face. It went down whimpering and people started coming over to
see what was going on and to help the "poor dog". We jumped back in
my car and took off. Just to make it clear, the two girls did not use
any racial epithets (unlike the girl in the book) and were not sic'ing
the dog on us. They were actually kinda scared and shaking.
Personally I don't think Dwayne should have done what he did. Of
course if the dog had started advancing, no problem, but...it was
stupid. 99% of those people down there that night didn't know these
girls were nazis. All they saw was a group of male skinheads surround
some girls and beat down a dog. Great for public relations.
>Joel was/is a bitch. Always will be. I have heard some sick rumors about
>that kid.
I'd like to hear those. I was sitting in the Wrigleyville Tap one
night with this skin girl and Joel and some friends sat at a table
behind her (facing me). He kinda looked us over (we were kitted out)
with that stupid grin on his face and said, real sarcastically, "Oi!"
I just said "How ya doin there Joel?! Good to see ya buddy!" I don't
think he knew that I knew him. He shut up and minded his own
business. Flashes of Oprah went through my mind {{{{{"It's an
American Pitbull!" Joel screamed, defending the BRAND NEW tattoo on
his FRESHLY SHAVED FOR THE SHOW head.}}}}}
>If you ain't Sparky then you might be Joe Kelly.
Oh gee, thanks. Nope. Joe became quite a dick too. I loved early
(*real* early) Lost Cause. In fact, Dwayne and I hung out alot with
KC and Jimi Kangles. Sometimes Gus too but not often. I got a dub of
Lost Cause's demo (before the poorly recorded first album came out)
from this girl Kat that got it from, I think, Sinbad. It was 100
times better than the crappy album. Their live shows were fucking
kickass. I can still see Joe dancing around on stage at Metro smoking
a big joint and singing "Where the fuck is Babylon.!" Hilarious.
>Then again, you could be Rob (redhead Rob of that group Macabre) or you
>could be Chris the German kid. I can't recall the last name. I'm talking
>about the tall dude who would jump off the balcony into the crowd at the
>Metro.
>
>So, what is it then?
I'm none of them.
Gotta go drink some beer. See ya.
OldSkin
wrote:
>Oh! Wait a minute... I know who you are.
>
>I can tell from your tone and your familiarity with the early days
>(Sonny's mohawk) that you are probably Perry Hardy.
>
>Well, am I right?
>
>If you are Perry, how are things going with The Templars? I'll check you
>out next time you are in my town.
>
>Later.
Nope. But I remember Perry too. It was either him or Mickey that got
me pulled over by a cop because his tall ass body couldn't fit in my
car (granted we had about 8 skins in a Toyota) and he was hanging out
the back window.
Yung Fat Ho
won't spell it out. But I will say that you used to have a
girlfriend/wife with an uncommon name that began with the letter "G."
What's up man?
Where is Dwayne these days?
************
A brief note about the Chicago scene in the 80's - for those who might
not know. Skinheads in Chicago have *always* been a mixed lot. All the
various cultures in the city could claim some member in our factions.
African-American. Puerto Rican. Vietnamese. Japanese. Mexican. Slav.
Irish. German. True Brit. Mutt. Whatever. As a result, the Nazi's never
really had a chance to flourish. They were quickly pushed to the fringe
of the scene and *never* gained acceptance. They were too busy plotting
a race war instead of building productive relationships. Anyway, a group
of all-white Skins in Chicago was as odd as seeing a group of all-Black
headbangers... sure, it happens... but not very often. This was that
climate of Chicago Skinhead that prevailed. In fact, most of the more
prominent Skins were Black. Think: Dwayne, Marty, Sonny, Mickey, Vince,
Corky, Ian... I don't know if it's still like that, but in the 80's that
was the case.
************
About Joel: Last I heard he was spending his days as a bike messenger
and hanging out at Oak Street Beach in his off time. Rumor has it that
he's now a homosexual. This last bit is strange because he was *always*
the only skin I knew who ever wanted to beat down a gay person. I
remember when he knocked out a transexual with his Kryptonite bike lock.
I wasn't there at the time of the actual incident, but that shit always
pissed me off - assaulting someone just because they are gay. Him and
that Punk rocker Eric Leather had a serious fetish for that bullshit.
The problem with your Bomber crew (by default you were affiliated with
them by association) was that you all straddled the fence. You had
Catfish Chris Lewis and Joe Mateljan floating in and out of your crew.
Twisted Nazi fetishists, both. Satch had enough sense to not give a fuck
about that WP shit. He was just out for a beer and a laugh. I wonder
where he is now.
Chris Lewis committed suicide in St. Louis about 3 years ago. He grew
his hair into a mohawk and became a tatoo artist. Apparently the woman
he was dating left him heartbroken and he couldn't stand it so he took
his own life.
I still remember the night that Mickey destroyed his face. Chris had
been calling Mickey's house spewing racist bullshit. Mickey is/was an
African-American Skinhead for those who don't know. Our crew and their
crew happened upon each other one night about a block from Medusa's. We
saw a carload of white skins and assumed they were the enemy. We ducked
down into Derek's station wagon while they walked on past. Then we
quietly came out the car and confronted them.
This was about Mickey and Chris. One on One... Toe to Toe. They
exchanged words for a few minutes. Mickey turned to me, smirked and
asked "***** what should I do?" This was a typical Mickey move. I
replied "fuck him up." With that Mickey laid a right hook on Chris' jaw
that left the rednekkk dazed and confused. In the madness that ensued
Satch got mobbed and so did that little kid... I can't remember his name
but Miles was his big brother. Mickey handled Chris by himself. I
remeber being disappointed that Chris couldn't fight. He was all mouth
and trousers. He looked more vicious than Nicky Crane but he couldn't
even fight a coommon cold. Sad. In fact, in all his years in Chicago he
only won two fights that I know of. The one with that Skin from NYC, but
he only won that one cos thy guy lost his footing by slipping in dogshit
and Chris took his chance. And the other one being where he hit the punk
rocker in the head with the 2 x 4. A little scrawny kid. I later heard
that the kid died from his injuries but I wasn't there and I wasn't
hanging with that crew so all I know about it is what I just stated. He
even got his ass kicked by bitch-ass Eric Leather.
The combination of Catfish and Joe Mateljan really splintered the
non-bonehead scene. In '85/'86 there were only Bomber Boys and Romantic
Violence, the rest were independents. We just all kicked it around. They
only politics was our disdain for the racists.
When Joe Mateljan met up with Catfish they found they had common
interests and exposed their Nazi fetish within the Bomber Boys ranks,
then the scene was split. All the Black (except Dwayne), Latino and
Asian skins split off and formed a variety of short-lived crews (The New
Town Boot Boys. Battery Boys, etc.). Vince went off and joined the Air
Force but remained on the floor for true skins. Victor G. stayed true
and so did Kim - then Victor went to jail for stabbing the rednekkk on
Belmont. Corky went full-on Anti-Nazi and helped build SHOC SkinHeads Of
Chicago (AKA SHOC Troops). You might not like his leftist politics but
he truly worked to keep Skinheads true to "skinhead." Sonny stayed
Psycho. Dan Bonfield went underground, etc.
In every scene it's the same. We are all happy until the boneheads
decide to speak up. Then it's war. If we have ever been unhappy as Skins
it's probably because of them. That in itself is enough to pit me
against them. They interrupt my "pursuit of happiness."
I'm sure you agree since you were 20% of one of the most legendary about
Skinhead Events of the late 80s. You know what I'm talking about.
I hear that Splatter died of an Overdose. Is that true? Is the 99th
Floor still around?
In article <6blrks0m0efa71ha5...@4ax.com>, OldSkin
<old...@windycity.org> wrote:
> I never was a part of a "crew." I was always on the fringe. I
> started going down there (Aetna Park and then Medusa's area) probably
> in 1985 or so. Maybe '86. I won't give my name because back then
> (still?) if you didn't tow the line or hang out and agree with SHOC,
> you were labeled a nazi. I thought SHOC and all those guys were
> pretty lame. Some labeled me a nazi although the first Skrewdriver I
> ever heard was through Dwayne (black skinhead for those of you that
> don't know). I hung out with Dwayne more than anybody back in the
> early days. I will tell you one story though:
I don't think anyone ever thought of you as a Nazi. We just thought that
anyone who wouldn't pick a definitive side might as well be the enemy.
You association with Catfish and even sick-in-the-head Dwayne left you
on the fringe of our trust. As much as I loved Dwayne in the early days
he became far too unpredictable when he got into the drugs. He and I got
along for the most part, but I think he was probably the only Skin that
I wouldn't want to battle one on one. =)
In fact, I still remember one incident where we did disagree. I hit him
in the jaw but the bastard didn't even flinch. He let me get away with
that one. Then about a year later I clocked him again and, again, he let
me walk. A few days later - I guess I had been eating wheaties - he and
I ran into each other under the El tracks on Belmont. I hit him one more
time. This time he said: "That's three times that you have hit me
******. I let you get away with the first two." And with that D laid the
most effective punch that I have ever been witness too. I had never been
hit harder before or since. He may have hit me more than once but I
seriously don't remember. =)
I have no embarrassment about this incident. It happened. He prevailed.
I stopped fucking with him =).
I felt much safer fighting Sonny. Him, I could handle.
Without a doubt Dwayne was the most dangerous and untouchable Skinhead
in Chicago. We all knew it. You all fell under his protection while the
rest of us eyed him with caution and suspicion. The boneheads on the
other hand feared him outright - moreso than they did the rest of us.
Where is he now?
Well, I think I've written enough. Later man.
Yung Fat Ho
One thing that
> always stuck in my mind was that one night he had on these pants that
> seemed to be shortened to the perfect length (just below the top of
> his boot) but when you got closer you could see that he had cut them
> straight across with a scissors instead of actually hemming them and
> there were strings and stuff hanging down. Looked really tatty.
> Pathetic.
Yeah, I remember those ratty pants that he wore. He really brought down
the skinhead standard. I don't know why Sonny put up with that fool.
> wound up behaving themselves the rest of the evening. Another memory
> was one night at a party at Hell House (RIP) a big brawl erupted with
> some bald (not skin) older fuck that looked like El Duce. My friend
> Juli jumped on his back (I think) and he punched here and there were
> skins everywhere and beer flying, etc. And I just remember Marty
> yelling at the guy, "Don't mess with the skinheads, man! Don't mess
> with the skinheads!" It wasn't like a "Yeah we showed you!" kinda
> thing, it was like a warning, "You don't want this, so back off." It
> was just so funny... "Don't mess with the skinheads man!" LOL!
I never did like Hell House. Do you remember when Warzone played there?
Not my kind of music, but a good party.
> I don't know if you read that idiotic book "American Skin" but there
> is a scene in that book that actually happened and I was there. The
> scene where the mulatto skin "Jermane" (sp?) - who was Dwayne - hits a
> nazi chick's pit bull with a cane outside of Dunkin' Donuts. That
> actually happened and it was my cane.
Nah. I've never read that book. Never even heard of it. I've been... um
"away" for a while. I do remember hearing about the incident though. It
was a shining moment. One for the grandkids.
But the Amy Strickland beating took place *before* the Pit Bull
Beatdown. If my memeory serves me well. I think the Amy/CASH beating
happened in early '86 while this Pit Bull incident happened later that
year or sometime in '87.
I will try to find the book to read their version. Where can I find it?
Who wrote it? Dwayne ain't a mulatto - as you know. He's all
African-American. But I suppose it's just writer's embellishments. No
harm done.
The girls were Karen Smith and... damn... I can't recall the other
woman's name. Real pretty with dark hair. TRACY!!! Yeah! It was Tracy!
She was dating Kevin Jameson.
A brief side note, Karen Smith later led a class-action lawsuit against
Milli Vanilli saying that she and other consumers had been duped. Too
funny.
I remember being inspired by Dwayne's use of the cane and later used the
same trick on Eric Leather's dog as he clamped down in Myrick's leg. The
dog didn't faint, but he let go and ran off whimpering.
This was the same dog that Eric Leather sic'd on the man who turned out
the be an off-duty cop. The act earned Leather a bullet behind his ear.
He lived, but was never quite the same.
> business. Flashes of Oprah went through my mind {{{{{"It's an
> American Pitbull!" Joel screamed, defending the BRAND NEW tattoo on
> his FRESHLY SHAVED FOR THE SHOW head.}}}}}
Yeah, that was pretty over the top. It was like he was going to a
Skinhead Prom or some shit.
>
> >If you ain't Sparky then you might be Joe Kelly.
>
> Oh gee, thanks. Nope. Joe became quite a dick too. I loved early
> (*real* early) Lost Cause. In fact, Dwayne and I hung out alot with
> KC and Jimi Kangles. Sometimes Gus too but not often.
Yeah, Gus and I were real tight back in '85. We went separate ways when
he joined up with Joe Kelly. Joe and I were avowed enemies and left each
other alone. I did like Lost Cause, however, cos 3/4ths of the band were
great friends of mine. I used to sit in on their practices and give them
advice that I thought would appeal to the Skins.
Great party band. Fucked up album. Too bad, they really could have risen.
>I think, Sinbad. It was 100
Sinbad was my homeboy!!!! Nothing but love for him.
> >Then again, you could be Rob (redhead Rob of that group Macabre) or you
> >could be Chris the German kid. I can't recall the last name. I'm talking
> >about the tall dude who would jump off the balcony into the crowd at the
> >Metro.
> >
> >So, what is it then?
>
> I'm none of them.
>
Do you remember the folks I'm talking about?
Later man.
OldSkin
wrote:
>I know who you are. Since you ain't comfortable with giving your name I
>won't spell it out. But I will say that you used to have a
>girlfriend/wife with an uncommon name that began with the letter "G."
>
>What's up man?
Wrong again. Honestly, you would not know me. I'm not trying to be
mysterious or anything, just letting folks know what a semi-outsider
thought and saw. I was totally a silent lurker that happened to hang
with Dwayne alot. I never did anything important or noteworthy. And
hardly anybody knew me. I liked it like that.
>
>Where is Dwayne these days?
I moved out of state in 1995 but I saw Dwayne a couple of times at
Circuits around '94. He looked exactly the same. He even remembered
my name! I don't look like a skin anymore and haven't for a very long
time.
>About Joel: Last I heard he was spending his days as a bike messenger
>and hanging out at Oak Street Beach in his off time. Rumor has it that
>he's now a homosexual. This last bit is strange because he was *always*
>the only skin I knew who ever wanted to beat down a gay person. I
>remember when he knocked out a transexual with his Kryptonite bike lock.
>I wasn't there at the time of the actual incident, but that shit always
>pissed me off - assaulting someone just because they are gay. Him and
>that Punk rocker Eric Leather had a serious fetish for that bullshit.
People that have overtly violent feelings towards homosexuals are
usually homosexual deep down. They get so violent because they see a
part of themselves that they don't like and want to deny exists. I
remember hearing Eric Leather used to give older men blowjobs for $$$.
Of course I heard that many many years ago so who knows.
>The problem with your Bomber crew (by default you were affiliated with
>them by association) was that you all straddled the fence. You had
>Catfish Chris Lewis and Joe Mateljan floating in and out of your crew.
>Twisted Nazi fetishists, both. Satch had enough sense to not give a fuck
>about that WP shit. He was just out for a beer and a laugh. I wonder
>where he is now.
<snip>
Ya'know, Chris Lewis always seemd intimidating to me. I tried to
avoid him. That's funny that he was kind of a pussy.
> Victor G. stayed true
>and so did Kim - then Victor went to jail for stabbing the rednekkk on
>Belmont.
Was Kim that little Asian (half-asian?) skin girl? Man, I had the
biggest crush on her.
> Corky went full-on Anti-Nazi and helped build SHOC SkinHeads Of
>Chicago (AKA SHOC Troops). You might not like his leftist politics but
>he truly worked to keep Skinheads true to "skinhead."
But that's a contradiction in terms to me. I can't see skinhead and
leftist politics going hand in hand ever. Corky always bugged the
fuck out of me cause he was like a little Spike Lee guy in a bomber
always spouting Marxist propaganda or some shit. Going on and on
about crap I couldn't care less about. Of course if you questioned
him or disagreed (and were white) that made you a nazi. I ran into
him at a punk show...somewhere...back in probably '87 or '88. He came
up to me and I smiled and said, "Corky! What's up man?!" actually
happy to see someone I knew that hadn't driven there with me. He just
looked at me and said, "Yeah, how's it going _ _ _ _ _? Is it going
about like this?" and sieg-heiled me. He obviously heard some stupid
nazi rumor bullshit about me. I just rolled my eyes and walked away.
I went to the show with a Native American with a mohawk, a girl
adopted by Asian parents and a guy who I think was part Jewish. Yeah,
whatever Corky.
>In every scene it's the same. We are all happy until the boneheads
>decide to speak up. Then it's war. If we have ever been unhappy as Skins
>it's probably because of them. That in itself is enough to pit me
>against them. They interrupt my "pursuit of happiness."
I don't know. The only problems I ever encountered were with people
labelling others "nazi." The actual nazis rarely came around, instead
choosing to hang out with themselves down in Blue Island or where
ever. Unity was a very sticky situation. You could be someone's best
friend one minute and then be getting beaten up the next. Fucked up
if you ask me.
>
>I hear that Splatter died of an Overdose. Is that true?
No clue.
>Is the 99th Floor still around?
I actually went back to Chicago the weekend of June 9th for my
grandmother's 80th birthday and before I left I drove downtown to some
of the old haunts. I had just finished the ridiculous "American Skin"
which is set in Chicago so it whet my appetitie. Things are different
but the same. 99th Floor was still there though.
>Man! You are taking me down memory lane!
>> wound up behaving themselves the rest of the evening. Another memory
>> was one night at a party at Hell House (RIP) a big brawl erupted with
<snip>
>I never did like Hell House. Do you remember when Warzone played there?
>Not my kind of music, but a good party.
Nah, Hell House sucked. I knew one of the guys that lived there and
liked him, but that whole scene was fucked up. And I disliked Warzone
way too much to bother seeing them.
>> I don't know if you read that idiotic book "American Skin"
>Nah. I've never read that book. Never even heard of it. I've been... um
>"away" for a while.
It just came out in the US a couple of months ago. It's set in
Chicago around the mid '80s. The made up names are fucking
ridiculous. Medusa's becomes "The Gorgon." Joel the annoying Jewish
skinhead becomes Jason the annoying Jewish skinhead. Black skinhead
Dwayne becomes mulatto skinhead Jermane. CASH becomes CLASH. Clark
Martell becomes...get this...Frank Pritzger. I guess he wanted
something that sound like Tom Metzger. Of course with the author's
*vivid* imagination (sarcasm intended) I'm surprised Clark Martell
didn't become Mark Clartell. Fuck, even Tezz (Terry) is in it as
"Jones" (duh, Bones) the British skin that's "been in alot of English
punk bands."
>But the Amy Strickland beating took place *before* the Pit Bull
>Beatdown. If my memeory serves me well. I think the Amy/CASH beating
>happened in early '86 while this Pit Bull incident happened later that
>year or sometime in '87.
I think you are right too, but in the book certain events are either
grouped together or loosely strung together to create a more cohesive
story. Too bad it didn't work. In the book, Jermane hits this girl
Corny's dog and this half black skingirl/buddhist beats her up. She
goes to see her in the hospital and explains what "real" skins are all
about and they become friends. Corny leaves the nazis and moves into
The Gorgon with the black skin chick and one day when no one but Corny
is there, Frank Pritzger and his boys beat the crap out of her. The
basic Amy Strickland story incredibly embellished for fiction's sake.
Funny thing about Strickland. A while after that whole thing happened
I went to Superdawg for lunch one day (corner of Milwaukee
and...Devon?) and who comes to my car to take my order but Amy
Strickland! You should have seen her face when she saw the crop and
flight jacket! I mean we never met in real life, so she didn't know
who the fuck I was...she had another girl bring my food!
>I will try to find the book to read their version. Where can I find it?
>Who wrote it?
Don De Grazia wrote it and you should be able to find it in any
bookstore. It's pricy at $13 for the paperback (it's one of those
oversize ones) so I would try a library first. I suppose it's worth
owning though since it *is* about Chicago and skins and the '80s. It
just pisses me off when I read it because it's so dorky and really
innaccurate in places.
>
>The girls were Karen Smith and... damn... I can't recall the other
>woman's name. Real pretty with dark hair. TRACY!!! Yeah! It was Tracy!
>She was dating Kevin Jameson.
Wait, which girls? If it's the same Tracy I'm thinking of (wasn't
Kevin Jameson black?) she went nazi but still kept a picture of Kevin
in her wallet. Duh, stupid move. She got her ass beat by her new
friends when they found out she dated a "nigger." Last I saw of her
she was drumming for this band a friend of mine played bass in. They
were actually really cool although Tracy's drumming was mediocre at
best. Of course it was three chord punk but still. They played at
the G Spot in probably '92 (?). I managed the Spot at that time. Do
you remember the G Spot? I think the address was 3320 Halsted. It's
now called Gentry and is, I'm assuming, a gay bar.
>This was the same dog that Eric Leather sic'd on the man who turned out
>the be an off-duty cop. The act earned Leather a bullet behind his ear.
>He lived, but was never quite the same.
Yeah, I remember hearing about that....
Okay, hears another tidbit that no one's ever been told. In the
little alley next to Ann Sather on Belmont (it led to their parking
lot in back) a friend of mine spray-painted "Sonny is a nigger" and
"SHOC sucks" just to piss Sonny off! Please belive me that he was not
a racist in any way, it was just to make Sonny all mad. In fact I was
there when he did it. The group of us were cracking up so hard. It
was just because they took themselves *so* damn seriously (especially
Sonny and dumb Don). I heard that SHOC was trying to figure out if
there was some new nazi faction in town or if it was out-of-towners or
...? LOL! Maybe he was wrong to do it, but it was still fucking
funny.
Toodles.
PATRlOT 13
whatever his name is...I read the book and thought it was pretty stupid
myself...pot smoking skinheads squating in a gay owned dance club...ok? Was the
author a skin? I would assume he was around at least a little to have known the
stories.
-Cameron
Liberty Record Distribution: http://members.aol.com/proamrecords/LIBERTY.html
The Best in Oi!, RAC, and Streetpunk.
OldSkin
>Your stories are pretty interesting...so do you all know this Don De Grazia or
>whatever his name is...I read the book and thought it was pretty stupid
>myself...pot smoking skinheads squating in a gay owned dance club...ok? Was the
>author a skin? I would assume he was around at least a little to have known the
>stories.
>-Cameron
Glad you liked 'em. I think maybe Yung Fat Ho was offended by that
last one, but oh well. It was meant as a lark and it was funny as
hell back then.
As for "pot smoking skinheads squating in a gay owned dance club,"
believe me, that's not too far from the truth. Says alot about the
"skinheads" in Chicago back then.
Here's a link to an interview with Don DeGrazia.
http://www.win-uk.net/~fiction/newrev/intervie/degrazia.htm
I can't see him ever being a skin. Look at the two musical references
(Oi anyway) in the book. First he quotes the lines:
"Oi, Oi, Oi The Chosen Few
This is what we think of you"
and then has a character refer to that band as "some type of
anti-Semitic band" (paraphrasing). WHAT?!? The Business?!?
Later the main character is in whats-his-names room and the narration
goes something like..."he put on the hardcore thrash sounds of The
Last Resort but turned the volume way down" (again, paraphrasing).
Please. The Last Resort were nowhere near to being hardcore or
thrash. This is not a guy that knows his Oi bands.
Hey, Richard Allen was no Shakespeare, but at least he was able to
capture what I think was probably the essence (stereotyped I'm sure)
of what it was to be a poor UK skin in the '70s. Sure his novels are
kinda over the top and silly, but at least they *know* they're over
the top and silly. De Grazia tried to be oh so serious and fell flat
IMO. That whole army deal was ridiculous as was the jail thing. The
majority of the book wasn't even *about* skinheads. It was about a
kid that didn't know the first thing as to what "skinhead" was all
about, being *made* into a skin and deciding it wasn't for him. That
idiot never was a skin, he was a poseur of the first order. Of course
that happened plenty in Chicago. The immortal 4 Skins come to
mind..."You was a punk...you was a mod...but you're a skinhead now!"
Clockwork skinhead indeed.
And the other ridiculous shit, like the black girl he's fucking winds
up being his half-sister, etc. Christ.
Hey, pretty cool site BTW. Maybe we can do some trading. Still got
all my old shit.
OS
Yung Fat Ho
<old...@windycity.org> wrote:
> Wrong again. Honestly, you would not know me. I'm not trying to be
> mysterious or anything, just letting folks know what a semi-outsider
> thought and saw. I was totally a silent lurker that happened to hang
> with Dwayne alot. I never did anything important or noteworthy. And
> hardly anybody knew me. I liked it like that.
> >
> >Where is Dwayne these days?
>
> I moved out of state in 1995 but I saw Dwayne a couple of times at
> Circuits around '94. He looked exactly the same. He even remembered
> my name! I don't look like a skin anymore and haven't for a very long
> time.
> Was Kim that little Asian (half-asian?) skin girl? Man, I had the
> biggest crush on her.
Yes, that's the Kim I'm talking about. Man, was she beautiful or what? I
too had a major crush on that cutie. I used to mess around with her
roomate Amy Moreth just so I could be close to Kim. Damn I loved that
woman. But she was devoted to Victor G. and I had to respect that. He
was my blood.
That's one cat I would *really* like to see again.
Were you there the night Morgan Kipp (Clark's girlfriend) sliced up
Kim's scalp with a razor?
The boneheads really got their asses kicked that night.
Sonny took a baseball bat to Clark and knocked his arm out of socket. He
was walking around bellowing "I CAN'T FEEL MY ARM!!!" at the top of his
lungs. His arm hung there limply. Sonny just kept up the attack. The
crazed look in Clark's eye remains with me to this day.
A wild night.
>
> > Corky went full-on Anti-Nazi and helped build SHOC SkinHeads Of
> >Chicago (AKA SHOC Troops). You might not like his leftist politics but
> >he truly worked to keep Skinheads true to "skinhead."
>
> But that's a contradiction in terms to me. I can't see skinhead and
> leftist politics going hand in hand ever. Corky always bugged the
> fuck out of me cause he was like a little Spike Lee guy in a bomber
> always spouting Marxist propaganda or some shit. Going on and on
Man, THAT is the funniest description I have ever heard of the
CorkSkrew! Thanks for the laugh.
I hear ya about the politics though... that shit was/is his life. Back
in 1991 I was in London and I ran into Corky there. We were both
travelling aimlessly and we decided to combine resources. That kid had
all sorts of women hanging around him. I never really understood it, but
he had some appeal. Regardless of language or age or ethnicity... they
wold be drawn to him. It made travelling quite easy. I would get to lay
with beautiful women as a result of being in his company. =)
At first I was apprehensive about travelling with him cos he had fucked
my girlfriend a few years before... but I let that shit pass. I blame
her more than him.
Anyway, we made it to Australia, New Zealand... Then we hopped on a
cargo freighter and made it to South America. When we got to the
Caribbean things got real deep. Apparently he was really into this cat
named Walter Rodney and he looked up every connection to Rodney that he
could while we were in Guyana. It was a truly profound change for Corky.
He would talk about his duty to his people, and that he was tired of
trying to change the minds of "confused white kids." He felt it was his
religious mission to uplift black people.
We travelled as a team for about 15 months. As you can imagine we were
pretty tight and as we travelled the globe I saw that a lot of the shit
that affected him was deeper than my life in the US taught me.
So, eventually I have to get back to the US but he decided to go to
Cuba. His father told me that he surrendered his US passport and decided
to stay in Cuba.
He got deep into those politics and volunteered when Fidel Castro wanted
to send soldiers to Southern Africa (Angola, Mozambique, etc.)
So he goes over there and commits some act of "terrorism" against the
South African Apartheid government. I have never gotten the details on
the incident but I hear that it had something to do with a truck and
some explosives and an Broderbund traning camp. That's all I really know.
Anyway, he did some time in a SA prison until Mandela was elected...
then he was released with amnesty.
He stayed in SA for a little while then migrated to Ghana where I think
he lives today. I can't know for sure cos his father moved to Africa
also and he was my only link to Corky... He also changed his name but I
can't recall what it is.
I can't pretend that I can understand what motivated him. All I know is
that whenever I had trouble he was always there. He never slighted me
cos I wasn't 'African.' He was - for all intents and purposes - my only
friend for quite a while.
I'd like to see him again.
> about crap I couldn't care less about. Of course if you questioned
> him or disagreed (and were white) that made you a nazi. I ran into
> him at a punk show...somewhere...back in probably '87 or '88. He came
> up to me and I smiled and said, "Corky! What's up man?!" actually
> happy to see someone I knew that hadn't driven there with me. He just
> looked at me and said, "Yeah, how's it going _ _ _ _ _? Is it going
> about like this?" and sieg-heiled me. He obviously heard some stupid
> nazi rumor bullshit about me. I just rolled my eyes and walked away.
> I went to the show with a Native American with a mohawk, a girl
> adopted by Asian parents and a guy who I think was part Jewish. Yeah,
> whatever Corky.
Hey... do you remember Brent? The mulatto skin from Homewood? I'd like
to see that dude again. He was another chick magnet.
The Native American kid... was that "Chief"? He was a cool ass dude.
> It just came out in the US a couple of months ago. It's set in
> Chicago around the mid '80s. The made up names are fucking
> ridiculous. Medusa's becomes "The Gorgon." Joel the annoying Jewish
> skinhead becomes Jason the annoying Jewish skinhead. Black skinhead
> Dwayne becomes mulatto skinhead Jermane. CASH becomes CLASH. Clark
> Martell becomes...get this...Frank Pritzger. I guess he wanted
> something that sound like Tom Metzger. Of course with the author's
> *vivid* imagination (sarcasm intended) I'm surprised Clark Martell
> didn't become Mark Clartell. Fuck, even Tezz (Terry) is in it as
> "Jones" (duh, Bones) the British skin that's "been in alot of English
> punk bands."
Bleh... I'll look up the book for a laugh. I'm surprised that it's set
in Chicago. Usually people think of NYC and LA as the US Skin towns.
I'll have to look through just to see if I'm in it somewhere =)
I wonder if the author was a Skin in Chicago. It really seems that he
was wrapped up in the day to day occurences. Even if he did embellish.
I'll have to look up this book. Warts and all.
>
> >But the Amy Strickland beating took place *before* the Pit Bull
> >Beatdown. If my memeory serves me well. I think the Amy/CASH beating
> >happened in early '86 while this Pit Bull incident happened later that
> >year or sometime in '87.
>
> I think you are right too, but in the book certain events are either
> grouped together or loosely strung together to create a more cohesive
> story. Too bad it didn't work. In the book, Jermane hits this girl
> Corny's dog and this half black skingirl/buddhist beats her up. She
"half-black skingirl/buddhist"?!?!?!? I can't think of *anyone* who fits
that description.
> goes to see her in the hospital and explains what "real" skins are all
> about and they become friends. Corny leaves the nazis and moves into
> The Gorgon with the black skin chick and one day when no one but Corny
> is there, Frank Pritzger and his boys beat the crap out of her. The
> basic Amy Strickland story incredibly embellished for fiction's sake.
Damn... the author disfigured this story almost as bad as Romantic
Violence disfigured Amy's face.
Pah!
>
> Funny thing about Strickland. A while after that whole thing happened
> I went to Superdawg for lunch one day (corner of Milwaukee
> and...Devon?) and who comes to my car to take my order but Amy
> Strickland! You should have seen her face when she saw the crop and
> flight jacket! I mean we never met in real life, so she didn't know
> who the fuck I was...she had another girl bring my food!
She never should have switched over. She used to fuck around with Sonny
back in '84 or '85.
>
> >I will try to find the book to read their version. Where can I find it?
> >Who wrote it?
>
> Don De Grazia
Hmm... probably a pseudonym.
>
> Wait, which girls? If it's the same Tracy I'm thinking of (wasn't
> Kevin Jameson black?) she went nazi but still kept a picture of Kevin
> in her wallet. Duh, stupid move. She got her ass beat by her new
Nah... Kevin Jameson was Clark's White Hand Man. Tracy and Karen were -
I think - the two BoneBirds who's dog suffered the beatdown.
> friends when they found out she dated a "nigger." Last I saw of her
> she was drumming for this band a friend of mine played bass in. They
> were actually really cool although Tracy's drumming was mediocre at
> best. Of course it was three chord punk but still. They played at
> the G Spot in probably '92 (?). I managed the Spot at that time. Do
> you remember the G Spot? I think the address was 3320 Halsted. It's
> now called Gentry and is, I'm assuming, a gay bar.
No. The G Spot doesn't sound familiar. I'm trying to think who this
drummer chick could be. The one I'm talking about was an Art Institute
student who decided to join Clark's fake Klan. She used to drive a
Handsome Cab up by The Water Tower.
Hey, do you remember Dirk, the Skin from Florida? That was one of the
coolest Skins on the planet. Nothing like the gimps that populate that
scene now.
>
> Okay, hears another tidbit that no one's ever been told. In the
> little alley next to Ann Sather on Belmont (it led to their parking
> lot in back) a friend of mine spray-painted "Sonny is a nigger" and
> "SHOC sucks" just to piss Sonny off! Please belive me that he was not
> a racist in any way, it was just to make Sonny all mad. In fact I was
> there when he did it. The group of us were cracking up so hard. It
> was just because they took themselves *so* damn seriously (especially
> Sonny and dumb Don). I heard that SHOC was trying to figure out if
> there was some new nazi faction in town or if it was out-of-towners or
> ...? LOL! Maybe he was wrong to do it, but it was still fucking
> funny.
That is funny. But it would have gotten you killed back then. It's a
good thing you all kept it secret. I do remember that little alley
though. It led to the tiny playground where we used to go and drink.
That's the same spot that Chris Lewis won the fight against the NYC
skin... Damn, I can't recall his name. He was olive skinned and appears
kneeling on stage while the Bad Brains performed CBs... This is all in
the insert for I Against I.
Hey.. do you remember Franken-Cop? That was a big brutal motherfucker. I
remember when he beat down Marty at the corner by Fleet's Inn.
I also remember the night he got his ass kicked by two Black Skins in
the alley behind Medusa's. His badge was a souveneir among the Skins for
years.
Yung Fat Ho
<old...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Glad you liked 'em. I think maybe Yung Fat Ho was offended by that
> last one, but oh well. It was meant as a lark and it was funny as
> hell back then.
Oh no. Not offended at all. My delayed response is due to messages being
missed by my news server. I have to work extra hard to make sure I get
everything I want to see.
>
> As for "pot smoking skinheads squating in a gay owned dance club,"
> believe me, that's not too far from the truth. Says alot about the
> "skinheads" in Chicago back then.
Yeah, it was pretty sad. Well, you must remember... that *is* why we
called them "Medusa" skins. It was nothing short of a derisive term.
Hey, do you remember a Skin that we used to call Rasta Joe?
That was a pretty cool kid. He used to date this woman named Samantha. I
didn't have much admiration for her, but he was cool enough.
Man... Do you remember John Waldmeuhler? We called him "Hans W-10" or
just Dub-Ten for short. That was another cool kid.
These memories are really taking me back.
PATRlOT 13
>all my old shit.
>
>OS
>
Im always up for that...
OldSkin
wrote:
>In article <c29tksk2nherqlvod...@4ax.com>, OldSkin
><old...@windycity.org> wrote:
>
>Were you there the night Morgan Kipp (Clark's girlfriend) sliced up
>Kim's scalp with a razor?
>
>The boneheads really got their asses kicked that night
>Sonny took a baseball bat to Clark and knocked his arm out of socket. He
>was walking around bellowing "I CAN'T FEEL MY ARM!!!" at the top of his
>lungs. His arm hung there limply. Sonny just kept up the attack. The
>crazed look in Clark's eye remains with me to this day.
>
Jeez...I wonder where *I* was...probably at school or something.
>I hear ya about the politics though... that shit was/is his life. Back
>in 1991 I was in London and I ran into Corky there.
<Corky stuff snipped>
Damn! That's wild! I give Corky major credit then, if all of that's
true. He actually followed up his beliefs with actions. I'm very
impressed.
>Hey... do you remember Brent? The mulatto skin from Homewood? I'd like
>to see that dude again. He was another chick magnet.
Yeah! Brent! That's the guy I think that Tracy chick was seeing
before she turned Nazty!
>The Native American kid... was that "Chief"? He was a cool ass dude.
Yup, fuckin' Chief dude! Chief ruled. He was, what, 6' tall or more
with a fucking mohawk and he was only like 16 or 17 I think. He was a
big ass dude too, not a skinny guy. Not fat but you wouldn't fuck
with him.
>> Corny's dog and this half black skingirl/buddhist beats her up. She
>
>
>"half-black skingirl/buddhist"?!?!?!? I can't think of *anyone* who fits
>that description.
I know, but how much more multicultural PC can you get other than give
the main character a half-black half-white buddhist love interest?
>> >I will try to find the book to read their version. Where can I find it?
>> >Who wrote it?
>>
>> Don De Grazia
>
>Hmm... probably a pseudonym.
Actually not, he's a professor of writing at Columbia College.
>> Wait, which girls? If it's the same Tracy I'm thinking of (wasn't
>> Kevin Jameson black?) she went nazi but still kept a picture of Kevin
>> in her wallet. Duh, stupid move. She got her ass beat by her new
>
>Nah... Kevin Jameson was Clark's White Hand Man. Tracy and Karen were -
>I think - the two BoneBirds who's dog suffered the beatdown.
Okay, yeah. Like I said above, the guy that the Tracy girl I was
thinking of was dating Brent.
>Hey, do you remember Dirk, the Skin from Florida? That was one of the
>coolest Skins on the planet. Nothing like the gimps that populate that
>scene now.
Hmm, no, not that I remember. I was always way better with faces. I
didn't talk much so knew most people by face.
> I do remember that little alley
>though. It led to the tiny playground where we used to go and drink.
Fuck yeah! That was always fun. I can remember all of us pooling our
change together and then sending someone into either 1000 liquors
or...hey, do you remember tha name of the liquor store that used to be
next to Fleet's Inn on the corner? It closed and became something
else in probably '86. But yeah, we'd all go back to that little
playground and then you'd have all these hands grabbing for as many
beers as they could carry from the case! Fuck...
>Hey.. do you remember Franken-Cop? That was a big brutal motherfucker. I
>remember when he beat down Marty at the corner by Fleet's Inn.
>
>I also remember the night he got his ass kicked by two Black Skins in
>the alley behind Medusa's. His badge was a souveneir among the Skins for
>years.
That name sounds vaguely familiar...not too sure though. I went away
to school in 89 and only came back sporadically. It's been so long
ago now...makes me feel awfully old all of a sudden. Ick.
OldSkin
wrote:
>Hey, do you remember a Skin that we used to call Rasta Joe?
>That was a pretty cool kid. He used to date this woman named Samantha. I
>didn't have much admiration for her, but he was cool enough.
I remember Rasta Joe quite clearly! He was very cool.
>Man... Do you remember John Waldmeuhler? We called him "Hans W-10" or
>just Dub-Ten for short. That was another cool kid.
Nah, was never for shit on last names. Even people I hung out with
all the time I didn't know last names. But you know it's funny. Some
last names I do know but it's because these folks were commonly
referred to by their full name. Like Jerry Rogers (Rodgers?) was
usually called "Jerry Rogers" in conversation. Weird. Same thing
with Chris Lewis.
Yung Fat Ho
<old...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> That name sounds vaguely familiar...not too sure though. I went away
> to school in 89 and only came back sporadically. It's been so long
> ago now...makes me feel awfully old all of a sudden. Ick.
Franken-Cop was that tall white cop who patrolled the Belmont area. He
was a brutal fuck. For a short while there were two cops. One black, one
white. Both about 6'6"!
Sonny, Marty and Eric Leather were their favorite victims. Eventually
the black cop left the scene and we were left with Franken-Cop. He got
that name cos of his height and rugged good looks (chuckle).
One night he was strolling the alley behind Medusa's and came across
****** and ****** scaling the fence. He called out "Hey! You two niggers
better bring your black asses down from there." Or some shit.
Apparently they did come down and exchanged words with Franken-Cop. And
it got real bad.
So they exchange heated words and eventually one of the two tell
Franken-Cop that they'd like to go toe to toe with him, but he's got to
do it straight, not as 'a cop.'
So, he tells them to ignore his badge and that he'll take them one at a
time and 'beat their black asses like their momma's should' or some
crazy shit.
Now, these two black dudes were big and fit and ultra-violent already.
Add to the fact that they hated Franken-Cop for what he did to Marty and
they were primed for war.
So, Franken-Cop squares off with the first one and get's knocked on his
ass. He never had a chance after that. The black skin was on him and
beat him unconscious. They took his badge, gun and belt and left him in
that same alley.
According to rumor Franken-Cop was hurt fairly bad and was given a desk
job. One can only imagine how humiliated he was amongst his peers. I
have heard that one of the most embarrassing things that can happen to a
cop is being stripped of his badge. This fool lost his badge and his gun.
One night a bunch of us were sitting up at Belmont Rocks and listening
to this story - that was our un-official "official" meeting spot. Right
there on water. We didn't really believe it was as extreme as we were
being told, but we also hadn't seen Franken-Cop for some time.
Somebody produces a pistol and says that it belonged to Franken-Cop.
That same person also produced a badge. At that point I believed it was
all true.
Everybody agreed that the gun was too serious so it was tossed into Lake
Michigan right then and there. No need getting caught with that shit on
you.
The badge, on the other hand, was a coveted souvenier. It passed through
several hands. Always on the sly. I wonder whatever happened to it. And
to Franken-Cop.
--
Wouldn't it be funny if "Don De Grazia" was our very own Dumb Don of
Sonny & Don fame? I know it probably aint, but it would be hilarious if
it turned out to be the same cat.
--
All that stuff about Corky is as true as I can remember it - and as true
as his father could tell it.
Now that I think about it, that's all pretty fucking weird. A former
black skinhead turned anti-apartheid terrorist. Strange indeed.
--
Hey... do you remember that band Out of Order? What about that
RedSkin... Dave something or other. Damn, I can't recall his name at
all. Dave Spears!!!! Yeah, that's it. The boneheads used to always throw
bricks through his windows and terrorize his family because he had
leftist beliefs. Crazy! They talk about their own persecution yet fail
to see how they conduct their very own witch hunt.
--
There were some beautiful young ladies on that scene back then. That's
probably what I miss most. All the young cuties with the monkey boots
and braces. I'm too old for the ones that are around now, but my libido
still feels 19 =)
--
I just recently saw that movie "American History X" and felt cheated. I
never lived the bonehead life so I don't know how that shit was, but the
story was weak.
Have you seen it?
Yung Fat Ho
> >Hey... do you remember Brent? The mulatto skin from Homewood? I'd like
> >to see that dude again. He was another chick magnet.
>
> Yeah! Brent! That's the guy I think that Tracy chick was seeing
> before she turned Nazty!
"Nazty" Heh. I like that.
Are you sure you aren't talking about a young lady named Wendy?
She was a drummer (if I remember correctly) and she used to date Brent
back in '86 or '87.
She used to live in a highrise on that street that's midway between
Lincoln and Belmont. I can't recall the name of the street.
Hey, do you remember Gina Veccaratta? I don't know the correct spelling
of her last name. She was the *real* petite girl with the long red hair
that hung down to her ankles.
Man, that was a hot young lady. I was fortunate enough to take her home
with me two or three times.
Chris Lewis raped her at a party in '86.*
That's really what set Vince off from the group. He considered Chris
Lewis his bro - but Gina was his girlfriend at the time.
Vince didn't know who to believe cos he heard from Chris that they had
regular old consensual sex, but he heard from Gina that Chris had raped
her while she was passed out.
I left the party early so I only know her side of the story cos I was
never too close with Chris Lewis...
Anwyay, Vince and Gina never recovered from that issue and they went
separate ways.
But DAMN she was beautiful. Just like that young lady Diana Vega. Her
brothers were in that metal group Paradoxx. She was absolutely gorgeous.
Like I said... I miss the beautiful young ladies the most. =)
Ah yes.. and the two Kori's.
One was the real exotic looking one with the looong black hair with the
white streak in it.
The other Kori was from Evanston and was a Skin. Quite lovely. Fresh
faces and fit and trim. Definitely one to remember.
Another one just popped into my head. Wendy Mullin. A different Wendy
from the one who dated Brent. This one was a petite little redhead with
a body that didn't have an ounce of fat. She would wear those little
Scottish kilts that were popular back then and her naked little legs.
Good Lord! Thank you for the ladies.
--
*The party that I'm talking about is the one where Sonny earned the
nickname "Black Moses." There was huge puddle of beer in the kitchen of
this house. He went into the bedroom and got a bedspread to wrap around
his naked ass and come out in only the sheet and his boots. He didn't
have any religious aspirations but it looked like he was trying to walk
on water. So he got the name "Black Moses" in reference to the Isaac
Hayes record of the same name. Too damn funny!
I saw him on Jenny Jones about 3 years ago.
Yung Fat Ho
<old...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Nah, was never for shit on last names. Even people I hung out with
> all the time I didn't know last names. But you know it's funny. Some
> last names I do know but it's because these folks were commonly
> referred to by their full name. Like Jerry Rogers (Rodgers?) was
> usually called "Jerry Rogers" in conversation. Weird. Same thing
> with Chris Lewis
Yeah, it was strange. Same thing with Dave Spears (the RedSkin).
Do you remeber Big Vince? He was the fat guy who played guitar in
Macabre with Rob (Sheffield???). Redhead Rob. The last name might be
wrong... but there was a Rob Sheffield I can't remember if he was the
redhead one or the fake skin with the Rude Boy tattoo.
Redhead Rob and Big Vince were two of the coolest Skins in town.
I later heard that Vince moved to southern California and wound up
related to the Italian Mafia in some way or other. I never saw him after
late '86.
He was a true LSD freak. He would go up to the Grateful Dead shows the
score his supply and then sell it in the scene.
I went with him one year. One of the strangest experience in my life.
Yung Fat Ho
Fat Ho <hnic...@usa.net> wrote:
> Do you remeber Big Vince? He was the fat guy who played guitar in
> Macabre with Rob (Sheffield???). Redhead Rob. The last name might be
> wrong... but there was a Rob Sheffield I can't remember if he was the
> redhead one or the fake skin with the Rude Boy tattoo.
>
> Redhead Rob and Big Vince were two of the coolest Skins in town.
I was looking through some old flyers and zines and shit when I found
that I was wrong about the name of the band that Vince and Rob played
in. They were in SCARRED FOR LIFE. Not Macabre.
Macabre was a Death Metal band that they shared practice space with.
They also toured the area together. Hence my confusion.
OldSkin
wrote:
>Wouldn't it be funny if "Don De Grazia" was our very own Dumb Don of
>Sonny & Don fame? I know it probably aint, but it would be hilarious if
>it turned out to be the same cat.
I thought the same thing and would look and look at the little picture
on the back of the book. I'm almost positive it's not, just because
there's no way dumb Don could become a University Professor and of
course the errors concerning Oi bands I outlined in an earlier post.
>Hey... do you remember that band Out of Order?
Totally, Out of Order ruled the roost! I remember they used to do a
killer version of "That's when I reach for my revolver" by Mission of
Burma.
>What about that
>RedSkin... Dave something or other. Damn, I can't recall his name at
>all. Dave Spears!!!! Yeah, that's it. The boneheads used to always throw
>bricks through his windows and terrorize his family because he had
>leftist beliefs. Crazy! They talk about their own persecution yet fail
>to see how they conduct their very own witch hunt.
Not sure, might recognize the face.
>There were some beautiful young ladies on that scene back then. That's
>probably what I miss most. All the young cuties with the monkey boots
>and braces. I'm too old for the ones that are around now, but my libido
>still feels 19 =)
Man, if you have any pics of those old skin chicks from Chicago, I
would *love* to get those in my e-mail! My one fetish in life is
still skinhead girls. Oof.
OS
OldSkin
wrote:
>In article <dih3ls0ocnohris6v...@4ax.com>, OldSkin
><old...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> >Hey... do you remember Brent? The mulatto skin from Homewood? I'd like
>> >to see that dude again. He was another chick magnet.
>>
>> Yeah! Brent! That's the guy I think that Tracy chick was seeing
>> before she turned Nazty!
>
>"Nazty" Heh. I like that.
>
>Are you sure you aren't talking about a young lady named Wendy?
Nah, her name was Tracy. Wendy sounds familiar too though.
<snip>
All the ladies bring back very fond memories, even though I don't
remember them all...but who usually does? :-)
OS
Yung Fat Ho
<old...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Totally, Out of Order ruled the roost! I remember they used to do a
> killer version of "That's when I reach for my revolver" by Mission of
> Burma.
>
Man, that was one of my favorite live tunes from them. I knew it was a
cover but I didn't know who the original was. I think it's time to fire
up the old Napster and grab the original for a listen or two. Thanks.
I have their album around here somewhere.
Do you remember that song they performed called Kilamanjaro? It was the
one that would start real slow and build up to a euphoric crescendo.
Man, that shit was pure killer.
> >What about that
> >RedSkin... Dave something or other. Damn, I can't recall his name at
> >all. Dave Spears!!!! Yeah, that's it. The boneheads used to always throw
> >bricks through his windows and terrorize his family because he had
> >leftist beliefs. Crazy! They talk about their own persecution yet fail
> >to see how they conduct their very own witch hunt.
>
> Not sure, might recognize the face.
Dave Spears was also on the infamous Oprah show. He was the redheaded
dude with the slicked back hair. He was sitting right behind Tom Metzger
in the audience. TM stood up to say something to him and they were
practically face to face.
>
> Man, if you have any pics of those old skin chicks from Chicago, I
> would *love* to get those in my e-mail! My one fetish in life is
> still skinhead girls. Oof.
>
> OS
I'll have to take a look around. I'm sure I do, but finding them is
another matter altogether.
Hey, do you remember Missy? She's the Black SkinGirl that used to work
upstairs at Wax Trax. Man, that's another young lady that I had a
serious love for.
How about Diana? She was the airline stewardess. She was dating Tim from
St. Louis for a minute until he caught her with Matt from Out of Order.
She was too damn fine for words.
Don't get me wrong now... there were some hideous ones too. I just
prefer to remember the cuties.
Man, throw some names out there cos I know I'm forgetting some people.
malcolm hathaway
old, but i read that book you guys have been talking about. i think it's
really interesting to hear all the real stuff in chicago then. i found the
book pretty pointless, too. again, it wasn't even about skinheads!! kinda
funny 'cause all the little kids around here found out where to buy it and
started reading it like it was the end-all, be-all of what skinheads are.
the image of an arty-farty emo kid carrying that book trying to look so
smart, what a clever boy! haha so i suppose my point is, keep these stories
coming, 'cause it's better than staring at the TV. and by the way, does the
name reyez sound familuar? an "old" skin who's an army recruiter at my
school, hehe
-Ashley
OldSkin
wrote:
>In article <hnicharge-DABE5...@news.flashcom.net>, Yung
>Fat Ho <hnic...@usa.net> wrote:
>
>> Do you remeber Big Vince? He was the fat guy who played guitar in
>> Macabre with Rob (Sheffield???). Redhead Rob. The last name might be
>> wrong... but there was a Rob Sheffield I can't remember if he was the
>> redhead one or the fake skin with the Rude Boy tattoo.
>>
>> Redhead Rob and Big Vince were two of the coolest Skins in town.
>
>I was looking through some old flyers and zines and shit when I found
>that I was wrong about the name of the band that Vince and Rob played
>in. They were in SCARRED FOR LIFE. Not Macabre.
>
If it's the one I'm thinking about his name is Rob Holding. He hasn't
been a skin for a very long time. I lived with him back in 1989
outside of Chicago. We were friends up until I left town in 1995. He
also worked the door for me at the G-Spot.
But you're right, there was a Rob Sheffield too.
Yung Fat Ho
<old...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> If it's the one I'm thinking about his name is Rob Holding. He hasn't
> been a skin for a very long time. I lived with him back in 1989
> outside of Chicago. We were friends up until I left town in 1995. He
> also worked the door for me at the G-Spot.
>
> But you're right, there was a Rob Sheffield too
YESSSS!!!!!
Rob Holding. Thank You!!!
Rob Sheffield was the poser skin. Rob Holding was Redhead Rob who sang
for Scarred For Life. What was the name of the woman he dated for so
long... She had reddish-brown hair too. Very cool duo.
Hey, do you remember the name of the talk dark-haired Skin who used to
counterfeit CTA Passes? I can't recall his name but he was an Art
Institue student. He once dated the same woman that I'm referring to in
the first paragraph. In fact, I met them both at the same time in '84 or
'85.
Do you remember Tomahawk? How about Karate Joe? That dude was pure
insanity.
Do you remember Barb Wire?
Yung Fat Ho
Fat Ho <hnic...@usa.net> wrote:
> Hey, do you remember the name of the talk dark-haired Skin who used to
> counterfeit CTA Passes? I can't recall his name but he was an Art
> Institue student. He once dated the same woman that I'm referring to in
> the first paragraph. In fact, I met them both at the same time in '84 or
> '85.
I just remembered... His name is Darryl. Whatever happened to him?
OldSkin
wrote:
>In article <hnicharge-E1623...@news.flashcom.net>, Yung
>Fat Ho <hnic...@usa.net> wrote:
>
>> Hey, do you remember the name of the talk dark-haired Skin who used to
>> counterfeit CTA Passes? I can't recall his name but he was an Art
>> Institue student. He once dated the same woman that I'm referring to in
>> the first paragraph. In fact, I met them both at the same time in '84 or
>> '85.
>
>I just remembered... His name is Darryl. Whatever happened to him?
The only Darryl I knew was also a friend of Rob Holding's so it's
probably the same guy. Again, he hasn't been a skin for a long time
just like Rob. Darryl played bass in that punk band I mentioned
before with that Tracy girl on drums. He had an apartment on Belmont
right across from Dunkin Donuts in the early '90s. In fact I was
going to take his old roommate's place. I was all set to move in and
the owner of the G-Spot closed the place down with no warning to any
of his employees. I remember going to the bar that evening to get
some of my records out and there was a crowd of people waiting outside
to get in...yeah, good financial move closing down. They were
dumbfounded when I told them we were closed for good and they all
slowly wandered away in small groups.
Because of this financial setback I was unable to complete the move.
Rob Holding moved in with him instead I believe - either that or he
was just always there. I went over there this one time and they had a
pile of books sitting on the couch with a pillow in front of them.
When I asked them what they were doing they showed me a little pistol
(probably a .22) that they had just got done shooting into the stack
of books, using the pillow to muffle the noise. They wanted to see
how many books the bullet would go through. Geniuses. They also had
no aversion to pharmaceuticals. I preferred drinking and really
didn't think snorting H was all that cool
Don't get me wrong, Darryl was/is a great guy - hell, I was gonna room
with him. And as for Rob, we were best friends at one point in our
lives so he'll always be a part of my past. Last thing I knew of Rob
Holding he was engaged to this girl named Su (no "e") that was
half-asian I believe. Not a skin or anything like that, just a nice
girl. They met at the G-Spot. I'm sure they're probably married
(maybe divorced!) by now, as all this info is pre-1995. I'm a little
out of touch.
OS
p.s. for a little blast from the past go see the movie Hi Fidelity
(if you can still find it) or rent it when it comes out on video. The
story is set in a Chicago record shop. Besides being hilarious (with
Jack Black stealing the show) there is an Out Of Order poster/flyer on
the wall of the shop that is visible in a couple of scenes (at least
one anyway).
Alan Guest
> In article <o2gnlsorqfmr95eun...@4ax.com>, OldSkin
> <old...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> > If it's the one I'm thinking about his name is Rob Holding. He hasn't
> > been a skin for a very long time. I lived with him back in 1989
> > outside of Chicago. We were friends up until I left town in 1995. He
> > also worked the door for me at the G-Spot.
> >
> > But you're right, there was a Rob Sheffield too
>
> YESSSS!!!!!
>
> Rob Holding. Thank You!!!
>
> Rob Sheffield was the poser skin. Rob Holding was Redhead Rob who sang
> for Scarred For Life. What was the name of the woman he dated for so
> long... She had reddish-brown hair too. Very cool duo.
>
> Hey, do you remember the name of the talk dark-haired Skin who used to
> counterfeit CTA Passes? I can't recall his name but he was an Art
> Institue student. He once dated the same woman that I'm referring to in
> the first paragraph. In fact, I met them both at the same time in '84 or
> '85.
>
> Do you remember Tomahawk? How about Karate Joe? That dude was pure
> insanity.
>
> Do you remember Barb Wire?
Can I just ask you something - what the fuck have you been doing for the
last 10 years and why the sudden surge of interest in the scene again?
(The only answer that will redeem you is that you got 10 years for
beating up a cop and stealing his gun and badge)
--
Alan
al...@macropolis.freeserve.co.uk
Skinhead Heaven - the world would never be the same again
http://www.macropolis.freeserve.co.uk
Yung Fat Ho
alan....@btinternet.com (Alan Guest) wrote:
> Can I just ask you something - what the fuck have you been doing for the
> last 10 years and why the sudden surge of interest in the scene again?
> (The only answer that will redeem you is that you got 10 years for
> beating up a cop and stealing his gun and badge)
LOL!!! Good One for the last line.
No, nothing as spectacular as all that. I simply travel a lot and have
gotten disconnected. Once I got back home I pulled out some old tapes
and also downloaded some tracks via Napster and my interest in the old
crew was peaked. So I turned to the internet to see if I could track
down any old connections.
See. Fairly mundane actually.
OldSkin
wrote:
>On Fri, 30 Jun 2000 08:55:39 -0700, Yung Fat Ho <hnic...@usa.net>
>wrote:
>
>>In article <hnicharge-E1623...@news.flashcom.net>, Yung
>>Fat Ho <hnic...@usa.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey, do you remember the name of the talk dark-haired Skin who used to
>>> counterfeit CTA Passes? I can't recall his name but he was an Art
>>> Institue student. He once dated the same woman that I'm referring to in
>>> the first paragraph. In fact, I met them both at the same time in '84 or
>>> '85.
>>
>>I just remembered... His name is Darryl. Whatever happened to him?
>
>The only Darryl I knew was also a friend of Rob Holding's so it's
>probably the same guy.
<snip>
Thinking back, I believe I'm talking about a different Darryl. Did
the guy *you're* thinking of always dance in the center of the pit at
shows and also had some of his artwork on display at Medusa's for
awhile? I think that guy's name was Darryl too.
That Chris in the p[ic I sent you was Chris Lewis. The Chris I was
thinking about earlier in this thread was Chris Hayes.
OS
Yung Fat Ho
<old...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> That Chris in the p[ic I sent you was Chris Lewis. The Chris I was
> thinking about earlier in this thread was Chris Hayes.
Oh yeah... Chris Hayes was psycho! He's the one I was referring to when
I asked about the Skin who would jump from the Balcony at the Metro.
That was Chris Hayes. Tall, dark-haired Chris.
A nut for real.
Seemed kinda afraid of a good brawl. I remember one time me and some
other SHOC Skins took out some agression on some headbangers and left
one of them was left laying on the ground... Chris Hayes and his friends
actually gathered up the dude and took him to the hospital. I thought
that was nothing short of scandalous.
I don't know that I would be so hardcore now... but I felt almost
betrayed by their compassion for The Enemy.
Yung Fat Ho
<old...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> The only Darryl I knew was also a friend of Rob Holding's so it's
> probably the same guy. Again, he hasn't been a skin for a long time
<SNIP>
> of books, using the pillow to muffle the noise. They wanted to see
> how many books the bullet would go through. Geniuses. They also had
> no aversion to pharmaceuticals. I preferred drinking and really
> didn't think snorting H was all that cool
Man... I guess time stood still for some people.
Tell me more about the G-Spot. What sort of club was it?
>
> p.s. for a little blast from the past go see the movie Hi Fidelity
> (if you can still find it) or rent it when it comes out on video. The
> story is set in a Chicago record shop. Besides being hilarious (with
> Jack Black stealing the show) there is an Out Of Order poster/flyer on
> the wall of the shop that is visible in a couple of scenes (at least
> one anyway).
I will check it out. Thanks for the tip. I used to have a stack of old
flyers but I sold them all or gave them away several years back. I wish
I had them now.
I went to the bookstore last night to flip through American Skin. I
definitely don't recognize the author.
I only took about 5 minutes with the book and a few things stood out.
1) "Sparky Blevins" and "SHANC" is definitely a reference to
Corky/Marty/Micki/Sonny and SHOC. Without a doubt. I don't know if they
figure prominently in the book cos I only found one reference to them.
When I get more time I'll have to pay it more attention.
2) Every spot/clique is renamed except the Bomber Boys. Very strange.
Why rename *all* the other groups but leave the Bomber Boys as the
Bomber Boys? Odd. I wonder why.
3) The story seems less about Skins than it did about this kid's
confusion.
But again... I haven't read it all yet. I'll check my local library.
Yung Fat Ho
quadri...@aol.com (Quadrinhista) wrote:
> YOUR GANG USED TO FIGHT AGAINST PUNKS & HARDCORES?
We fought EVERYBODY. Our favorite targets were the WP tweakers that
would roll through town.
Quadrinhista
Fauno88
Skrew...@tutopia.com.br
Quadrinhista
Fauno88
Yung Fat Ho
quadri...@aol.com (Quadrinhista) wrote:
> YOU WAS SPANKED SOMETIMES? LOST ANY FIGHT? CRIED?
>
> Fauno88
Spanked? Nah. Cried? Nah.
Lost a fight? Of course.
There was one instance in particular where me and a coupla other SHOC
Troopers were coming from Belmont Rocks (waterfront meeting spot). We
saw this party in an apartment building and asked to come up.
It turned out to be a party of Grateful Dead Frat/Sorority folks. You
know... the Biff and Buffy types.
Well, while in the party we proceeded to get rather fresh with some of
the ladies and that peeved some of the men.
My two companions were talking to one of the ladies while I was looking
through the CDs. There was this one semi-scrawny college geek with curly
hair (like Horshack or the guy from Hall & Oates). He said something
about putting on some music that I objected to and I replied that it was
music for "pussys" or something like that.
He asked... "did you just say it was music for pussys?" To which I
replied a hearty "Yes." But I was still rifling through the CDs for
something decent.
I didn't even see it coming. The puss sucker-punched me and spread my
blood across the white carpet. Oohh it was a hellafied nosebleed. I was
more stunned than hurt. I immediately lunged for the prick but two of
the bigger frat boys got between us. Then they rudely escorted me from
the party. My two companions were still inside throwing punches while I
was outside holding my bloody nose.
Eventually they came outside and we had to devise a plan. There were far
more frat boys than our measly 3 Skins so we went back to The Rocks but
everyone was gone. Then we went to Fleets Inn and the only Skins that
were there were Weekend Warriors. But that was good enough.
We gathered up about 15 or so fresh cuts and told them that we needed to
draw the frat boys from the apartment. I was particularly interested in
the curly-haired geek with the zebra-skin jacket. Fucker.
Anyway, along the way we all picked up bottles and sticks and rocks. We
approached the building and on '3' we proceeded to smash as many windows
as we could reach. The Frat boys came running out and all my Fresh Cut
Weekend Warrior "Skins" went scurrying like roaches. Again it was down
to me and my two companions.
We were outnumbered again so we did what anyone would do...
We ran and hid. =)
I never did get back at that curly-haired prick. I'm sure he's as smug
about his victory as I am surly about my loss.
Bastard.
So, there you have it...
Quadrinhista
Fauno88