Question for Chuckie - Barazona & Larianov

[Iguana Rot FSC]

We're trying to work out who qualifies for the Chuckielympics, but we've run into a snag. You listed Barazona & Larianov as skating for Bellingsuagenia at Cookstown, but for Belarus at Pyongyang. We tried going to the International Skating Union's Barazona & Larianov as the tiebreaker, but they skate for Russia!

Who are Barazona & Larianov currently skating for?

While we're asking...here are the countries we have from the International Skating Union's World Championships that we can't match to Ithinkalthistoryisreal Skating Union events. Could you tell us which of these countries are wrong?

Men

Max Aaron - USA
Paolo Bacchini - Italy
Alexei Bychenko - Israel
Christopher Caluza - Philippines
Maciej Cieplucha - Poland
Misha Ge - Uzbekistan
Yakov Godorozha - Ukraine
Zoltan Kelemen - Romania
Jin Seo Kim - South Korea
Maxim Kovtun - Russia
Ronald Lam - Hong King
Peter Liebers - Germany
Kim Lucine - Mongolia
Paul Bonifacio Parkinson - Italy
Viktor Pfeifer - Austria
Abzal Rakimgaliev - Kazakhstan
Viktor Romanenkov - Estonia
Nan Song - China
Justus Strid - Denmark

Pairs

Moore-Towers/Dylan Moscovitch - Canada
Peng/Zhang - China
Sui/Han - China
Scimeca/Knierim - USA
Makarova/Kenchadze - Bulgaria
Klatka/Chruscinski - Poland

[Chilly8]

"Iguana Rot FSC" <iguana...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>We're trying to work out who qualifies for the

As far as Olympics go, a lot of us smaller broadcasters may
be out of business before then. It appears that another attempt
at SOPA and the Commercial Felony Streaming Act may
be at hand.

So, this will probably be the last Worlds we broadcast.
The "carrot" to get laws like these passed this time is
a reduction in the maximum copyright term back to
56 years, as it was before 1976 and 1998 extensions
of copoyright terms.

And if they use the Japan Copyright Law as a model,
blocking US IP addresses will NOT do it. The US
could well model a streaming law on the Japan
Copyright Law, which would mak it a crime for
Americans to VIEW many so-called "pirate" streams
when physically outside the United States. The trouble
is that IP addresses just tell where the user is located,
it does NOT tell you who they are of what citizenship
they have.

Americans can already be prosecuted for many things
done outside the country, even if what they are doing
is LEGAL in the country they are in, so make it a crime
to view "pirate" streams while abroad, just like the Japan
Copyright law does for Japanese citizens, would not be
that much of a stretch.

It has been a GREAT 18 years in the online broadcasting
biz. I have been to more places in the past 18 years that
most others have been in a lifetime. And don't forget the
many years before that I was in pirate shortwave radio.

One can only hope the American people will rise up
in revolt against what appears to be another SOPA,
that is in the making.

[Iguana Rot FSC]

On Friday, March 15, 2013 4:26:41 PM UTC-7, Chilly8 wrote:

> So, this will probably be the last Worlds we broadcast.

We'll have to go back into the archives to see how many times Chuckie has said this. He keeps forgetting that IT IS NOT ILLEGAL TO BROADCAST SPORTING EVENTS FOR WHICH NO ONE ELSE HAS A COPYRIGHT. We are STILL waiting for ANYBODY to name ONE event that Chuckie has broadcast for which somebody else has a copyright.

Speaking of which, apparently the Ithinkalthistoryisreal Skating Union has forgotten how to count - first, they let two skaters from USA into the Ladies event, even though Chuckie made it VERY clear last year that they would get only ONE, and now, somehow, Brazil has two as well (Kanako Murakami and Isadora Williams).

Calm down, Jeanne - I'm not talking about the Murakami at the "real" Worlds, who skates for Japan. We hope to have the preliminary qualifier counts for the "real" Olympics in Pairs and Men's after the men's long program ends (note that six men's spots and four pairs spots (minus one if Russia doesn't qualify somebody at Worlds) will be decided at the 2013 Nebelhorn Trophy event).

Oh, and Chuckie, here are a few more names for which we need nationalities confirmed by you:

Ladies
Alina Fjodorova - Latvia
Anita Madsen - Denmark
Anne Line Gjersem - Norway
Brooklee Han - Australia
Carol Bressanutti - Italy
Carolina Kostner - Italy
Inga Januleviciute - Lithuania
Isadora Williams - Brazil
Juulia Turkkila - Finland
Kaat Van Daele - Belgium
Kaetlyn Osmond - Canada
Kerstin Frank - Austria
Kexin Zhang - China
Monika Simancikova - Slovakia
Natalia Popova - Ukraine
Nathalie Weinzierl - Germany
Patricia Glescic - Slovenia
Sonia Lafuente - Spain
Tina Stuerzinger - Switzerland
Yuna Kim - South Korea
Zijun Li - China

Dance
Agafonova / Ucar - Turkey
Chock / Bates - USA
Guignard / Fabbri - Italy
Heekin-Canedy / Dun - Ukraine
Hurtado / Diaz - Spain
Karmi / Lindholm - Finland
Kavaliova / Bieliaiev - Belarus
Mysliveckova / Brown - Czech Republic
Nagy / Fejes - Hungary
Plutowska / Gerber - Poland
Reed / Rogov - Israel
Shtork / Rand - Estonia
Testa / Csolley - Slovakia
Tobias / Stagniunas - Lithuania
Virtue / Moir - Canada
Weaver / Poje - Canada

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <5143ae34$0$64328$c3e8da3$5e5e...@news.astraweb.com>,

"Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "Iguana Rot FSC" <iguana...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:892e79c3-ac79-49a4...@googlegroups.com...
>
>
> >We're trying to work out who qualifies for the
>
>
> As far as Olympics go, a lot of us smaller broadcasters may
> be out of business before then.

Distraction noted. Deflection strongly rejected. Nobody gives a shit
about your fantasy radio station.

Answer the questions you were asked.

--
JD

"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <5143ae34$0$64328$c3e8da3$5e5e...@news.astraweb.com>,
"Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote:

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[Chilly8]

"Iguana Rot FSC" <iguana...@earthlink.net> wrote in message

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On Friday, March 15, 2013 4:26:41 PM UTC-7, Chilly8 wrote:

> So, this will probably be the last Worlds we broadcast.

>We'll have to go back into the archives to see how many times Chuckie has
>said this. He keeps >forgetting that IT IS NOT ILLEGAL TO BROADCAST
>SPORTING EVENTS FOR WHICH NO >ONE ELSE HAS A COPYRIGHT. We are STILL
>waiting for ANYBODY to name ONE event that >Chuckie has broadcast for which
>somebody else has a copyright.

The problem is that if section 512 "safe harbor" statutes are repealed, it
would shut down a lot of sites.

And there are a few other skating and tennis events where we
DO go and broadcast without any credential, the 'Slams in
tennis, and in skating, it is 4cs, Europeans, and Worlds.

So we broadcast those, in addition to the events on our
Masters series.

And as far as broadcasting those, we now use a
modified version of the Live 365 broadcasting app
for smartphones. We simply modified it to connect to
our Shoutcast servers, so we don't have to lug a lot of
computer equipment to and from arenas. All we
need is a cell phone and 3G internet connection and
we are good to roll. It will simply look like I am
talking to someone on the phone, and dgs and his
security goons will NEVER know what is REALLY
going in.

So we broadcast those, in addition to the events on our
Masters series.

Now currently, it is NOT a criminal offence to do this,
given that our servers are in the USA, but any kind of
Commercial Felony Streaming Act WOULD make it
a criminal offence. And if the latest version of the bill,
now likely bring written is ANYTHING like the Japan
Copyright Law, it would affect streaming services all
over the world, EVEN if they block US IP addresses.

There was an item in SOPA to make it apply to
expat Americans physically located outside the USA,
basically making it illegal to access a blacklisted site
while abroad, EVEN if that site was LEGAL in the
country they were visiiting. Such a provision would
have been a DISASTER for web sites, as they would
have had to verify the citizenship of EVERY visitor,
an IMPOSIBLE task, and likely violating the privacy
laws of some countries, particuarly in the EU, or find
themselves liable in a US court. That is part why
there was a sudden worldwide outcry against
SOPA.

Hoepfully Congress will learn and not make
any laws apply extraterritorially, as far as
what Americans may and may not do while
abroad, in any new legislation. Trying to
prohibit Americans from certain internet
actitivites while abroad, even if legal in the
country they are in, is a lot of what did in
SOPA.

[Iguana Rot FSC]

On Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:43:53 AM UTC-7, Chilly8 wrote:
> "Iguana Rot FSC" <iguana...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:e41c654a-a0a8-49cd...@googlegroups.com...

> >We'll have to go back into the archives to see how many times Chuckie has
> >said this. He keeps >forgetting that IT IS NOT ILLEGAL TO BROADCAST
> >SPORTING EVENTS FOR WHICH NO >ONE ELSE HAS A COPYRIGHT. We are STILL
> >waiting for ANYBODY to name ONE event that >Chuckie has broadcast for which
> >somebody else has a copyright.
>

> And there are a few other skating and tennis events where we
> DO go and broadcast without any credential, the 'Slams in
> tennis, and in skating, it is 4cs, Europeans, and Worlds.

You don't need a "credential" for the Ithinkalthistoryisreal Skating Union's Worlds, Four Continents, and Europeans. Now, if you covered the INTERNATIONAL Skating Union's versions, you might be in trouble, but you have admitted that you don't, as you mention skaters from countries that are not International Skating Union members and aren't allowed at those events. You also don't cover any of the International Tennis Federation's "Grand Slam" events, as you are always at the ones with the Venus Williams born in "Alice Town, Bahamas" where the only ones anybody else cares about have the Venus Williams born in the USA.

And there is no need to remind us that "Venus Williams was born in Alice Town, Bahamas" - we already know that the ITHINKALTHISTORYISAL Tennis Federation's Venus Williams was born there, as opposed to the INTERNATIONAL Tennis Federation's Venus Williams, who was born in Lynwood, California, USA.

[Chilly8]

I am on my way home to Australia right now. From DC, it just just a
short hop to Pittsburg, and thn a flight to Tahiti. Thanks to MyTrafficX
I can find a lot of airlines and flights, since it has more than 2000
airlines. I first fly to Tahiti, then changes planes for Sydney via
Brisbane.

As far as what is going to happen with copyright laws, we
don't know. One Congressman seemed to give a hint that
the House might not take up the issue this time. I don't think
some Congressman want another SOPA fight, which is just
what they will get it they try to pass some of the maximlist
laws suggested.

Other Congressmen have indicated that major copyright
reform may take years to craft, so who knows what will
happen.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <514b38ca$0$40760$c3e8da3$3304...@news.astraweb.com>,

"Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "Iguana Rot FSC" <iguana...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:e41c654a-a0a8-49cd...@googlegroups.com...
> On Friday, March 15, 2013 4:26:41 PM UTC-7, Chilly8 wrote:
>
> > So, this will probably be the last Worlds we broadcast.
>
> >We'll have to go back into the archives to see how many times Chuckie has
> >said this. He keeps >forgetting that IT IS NOT ILLEGAL TO BROADCAST
> >SPORTING EVENTS FOR WHICH NO >ONE ELSE HAS A COPYRIGHT. We are STILL
> >waiting for ANYBODY to name ONE event that >Chuckie has broadcast for which
> >somebody else has a copyright.
>
>
> The problem is that if section 512 "safe harbor" statutes are repealed, it
> would shut down a lot of sites.

What the fuck does this have to do with what you were asked?

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <514b38ca$0$40760$c3e8da3$3304...@news.astraweb.com>,
"Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote:

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[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <514b79c8$0$11757$c3e8da3$6901...@news.astraweb.com>,

"Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I am on my way home to Australia right now.

Lie #1.

> From DC, it just just a
> short hop to Pittsburg,

Is that the Pittsburg in Kansas or the one in California, and how could
you fly to Tahiti from either of them.

> and thn a flight to Tahiti. Thanks to MyTrafficX
> I can find a lot of airlines and flights, since it has more than 2000
> airlines. I first fly to Tahiti, then changes planes for Sydney via
> Brisbane.
>
> As far as what is going to happen with copyright laws, we
> don't know. One Congressman seemed to give a hint that
> the House might not take up the issue this time. I don't think
> some Congressman want another SOPA fight, which is just
> what they will get it they try to pass some of the maximlist
> laws suggested.
>
> Other Congressmen have indicated that major copyright
> reform may take years to craft, so who knows what will
> happen.

Which is precisely why it's so idiotic to be so ridiculously paranoid.

Especially since your "radio station" is nothing but a fantasy streaming
stolen music.

[Chilly8]

"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
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> Especially since your "radio station" is nothing but a fantasy streaming
> stolen music.

As as as music gone, one online music store I use has a playlist
of recommended songs "The 50 Best Songs of 1981"

Looking back at that year, that is the year that Elaine
Zayak won the ladies world title for the United States,
something no US lady would do again until 1996, when
Michelle Kwan won the world title.

1981 was also the year that Scott Hamilton won the first
of his four world titles, and was the first US mens skater
to win the world title since Dick Button in 1953.

Born in that year was Russian skater Elena Sokolova, born
on February 11 of that year.

[Chilly8]

"Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> The problem is that if section 512 "safe harbor" statutes are repealed, it
> would shut down a lot of sites.
>
> And there are a few other skating and tennis events where we
> DO go and broadcast without any credential, the 'Slams in
> tennis, and in skating, it is 4cs, Europeans, and Worlds.

What will happen also depends on which versions of
SOPA, PIPA, or the CFSA are ultimately introduced.

If the far less draconian Senate versions were passed,
we could live with those. I do have to give credit
to Pat Leahy and Amy Klobuchar, they at least tried
to limit the extent of their laws.

For example, if PIPA had passed, as it was, without
being merged into SOPA, all we would have had to
do is block US IP addresses, as PIPA basically
said that if a "good faith" effort was made to block US
IP addresses, no action could be taken in a U.S.
court. And since our servers are all colocated in the
United States, they are ONLY subject to UNITED
STATES laws, and NOT the laws of ANY OTHER
COUNTRY. So, as far as the events where do ingore
press credential requirements, such as the 'Slams in
tennis, or Worlds, Europeans, 4cs, or North Americans
in figure skating, we would have had to have ONLY
block US IP addresses, and we would have been
good to roll.


SOPA would not have had thse protections, but
PIPA would have.

In the talkback and comment secions of many
articles over the past few years about this, people
have gotten the two confused.

Klobuchar's version of the felony streaming law
would have still been a PITA, but we could have lived
with that, while the SOPA version of the same
law would have been far worse.

And one other differnece is the the Klobuchar
version did not criminalise VIEWING of
"pirate" streams while the SOPA version did.

PIPA would have been a PITA, but we could
have lived with it, while SOPA would have been
another kettle of fish altogether.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <514c99b4$0$64391$c3e8da3$5e5e...@news.astraweb.com>,

"Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:514b38ca$0$40760$c3e8da3$3304...@news.astraweb.com...
>
> >
> >
> > The problem is that if section 512 "safe harbor" statutes are repealed, it
> > would shut down a lot of sites.
> >
> > And there are a few other skating and tennis events where we
> > DO go and broadcast without any credential, the 'Slams in
> > tennis, and in skating, it is 4cs, Europeans, and Worlds.
>
>
> What will happen also depends on which versions of
> SOPA, PIPA, or the CFSA are ultimately introduced.

Why do you think anybody here gives a damn about your stupid paranoid
fantasies?

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <514bd5a9$0$11779$c3e8da3$6901...@news.astraweb.com>,

"Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hlwdjsd2-8E0397...@c-131-121-196-216.gonavy.usna.edu...
>
>
> > Especially since your "radio station" is nothing but a fantasy streaming
> > stolen music.
>
> As as as music gone, one online music store I use has a playlist
> of recommended songs "The 50 Best Songs of 1981"
>
> Looking back at that year, that is the year that Elaine
> Zayak won the ladies world title for the United States,
> something no US lady would do again until 1996, when
> Michelle Kwan won the world title.

Are you high?

Zayak won in 1982. Denise Biellmann (of SWITZERLAND) won in 1981.

And why did you SPIT ON American world champions Debi Thomas, Jill
Trenary, and Kristi Yamaguchi. How dare you!

> 1981 was also the year that Scott Hamilton won the first
> of his four world titles, and was the first US mens skater
> to win the world title since Dick Button in 1953.

Dick Button's last championship was 1952.

And why did you SPIT on all the American world champions between Button
and Hamilton?

Like Hayes Alan Jenkins for 1953-1956, his brother David Jenkins from
1957-1959, and Tim Wood in 1969-70. Why did you do that?

>
> Born in that year was Russian skater Elena Sokolova, born
> on February 11 of that year.

Liar. She was born February 1 5, 1980.

Your lies are getting really sloppy.

[Chilly8]

"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message

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She was born in 1981, I don't know where you
get that 1980 bithdate from.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <514cd59f$0$52012$c3e8da3$5d8f...@news.astraweb.com>,

Are you actually calling the International Skating Union a liar?

<http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00000327.htm>

2/15/80

Why are you so insistent on such easily-disproven lies?

[Chilly8]

"Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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>
>
> I am on my way home to Australia right now. From DC,

I just got home to the Outback of Australia. I live
about 2 hours drive from Sydney. There are closer
airports, but with the time it would take to go through
security and get on another flight, I could drive in
less time than that.

As far as what we do next month, it will depend.
If some of the more draconian copyright propsals
I have been talking about are to be enacted in the
near future, they will likely be attached to CISPA,
which will likely go to markup sometime in April.
If anything is going to happen right away, it
will happen then.

We are waiting to find out the dates, so we can
be there cover and broadcast it.

We also plan to cover the Family Circle tennis
event in Charleston, SC, and the ISU World
Team Trophy in Concordia, Bellinsguaenia.

And at Family Circle tennis, we will have
some players from Antarctican countries,
including Carla Suarez Navarro, who plays
for Spain, but was born in Esperanza, in the
Republic of Santiago

And we also have a former Australian player
who has switched countries to the USA.
Melanie Odine will be playing for the USA.

There is also one Ukranian born player who
will be representing Bellinsguazenia at this
event, Yelena Vesnina.

We even have a player from New Vestfold
who is new to the curcuit, but I will let you
all guess who that one is.

And at the ISU World Team Trophy,
the US/Central America/ Caribbean team has been
annouced

Ladies

Gracie Gold (USA)
Ashley Wagner (USA)

Men

Maximillian "Max" Aaron (Dominica)
Jeremy Abbott (USA)

Pairs

Marisa Castelli/Simon Shinapir (Honduras)

Dance

Madison Chock/Evan Bates (USA)

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <514d03e9$0$11745$c3e8da3$6901...@news.astraweb.com>,

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[Chilly8]

"Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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>
> We also plan to cover the Family Circle tennis
> event in Charleston, SC,

Family Circle Tennis is a go. There will not
be any markup on CISPA until at least the
10th, and Family Circle Cup runs from
31st March to 6th April.

I will be flying from Australia to Charleston, SC
next week for Family Circle Tennis in one
week's time.

These are the Antarctican players confirmed
to be playing as of right now

Maria Erakovic New Zealand
Julia Goerges New Schwabia
Jelena Jankovic Australia (born in Serbia)
Madison Keyes New Vestfold
Varvara Lepchenko Bellinsguazenia
Carla Saurez Navarro Spain (born Republic Of Santiago)
Melanie Odine United States (born in Australia)
Samantha Stosur Australia
Elena Vesnina Bellinsguazenia

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <514ea457$0$51972$c3e8da3$5d8f...@news.astraweb.com>,

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[Chilly8]

"Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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>
> As far as what we do next month, it will depend.
> If some of the more draconian copyright propsals
> I have been talking about are to be enacted in the
> near future, they will likely be attached to CISPA,
> which will likely go to markup sometime in April.
> If anything is going to happen right away, it
> will happen then.

I would not be surprised if some kind of
restrictions on VPNs got included. There
is now open source software that makes
the ability to run a VPN server afforable to
everyone.

It used to be where you had to have an
expensive business class router costing
tens of thousands of dollars to run a VPN,
or at least one that support multiple users.


Thanks to SoftEther, the ability to run a
stable VPN on one's home broadband connection
is now affordable to everyone. If you can
afford a broadband connection, you can
afford to run your own VPN server.

If nothing else, corporate network admins
will be screaming their heads off about this
when people start setting up VPNs on
their home broadband connections, and
then be able to bypass the workpace firewalls.

Unlike the sucscription VPNs out there,
these will be much harder to detect and
block. This new software will REALLY BE
a corporate network admin's WORST
NIGHTMARE.

With this software, free public VPNs
will start sprouting up like weeds,
prompting for calls to ban them.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <514fdf68$0$13486$c3e8da3$dd96...@news.astraweb.com>,

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[Chilly8]

"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message

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> In article <514fdf68$0$13486$c3e8da3$dd96...@news.astraweb.com>,
> "Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:514d03e9$0$11745$c3e8da3$6901...@news.astraweb.com...
>>
>> >
>> > As far as what we do next month, it will depend.
>> > If some of the more draconian copyright propsals
>> > I have been talking about are to be enacted in the
>> > near future, they will likely be attached to CISPA,
>> > which will likely go to markup sometime in April.
>> > If anything is going to happen right away, it
>> > will happen then.
>>
>>
>> I would not be surprised if some kind of
>> restrictions on VPNs got included. There
>> is now open source software that makes
>> the ability to run a VPN server afforable to

We were going to join movement for more
free VPNs, but when we installed SoftEther
on the server, it totally screwed things up
where the server suddenly had a differnet
IP. There is something about SoftEther that
makes Windows Vista go apeshit.

The server ended up with a different IP
address that we cannot change, so we
had to change the DNS records on the
domain name to make it point to the right
address on the server. The changes should
propagate around the world in 24 to 48 hours.

SoftEther screwed the server up to where
System Restore does not work.

Other than those problems, the server is
in working order otherwise.



So the public VPN server we were going to run
is history. We still have the public HTTP proxy

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <5152102e$0$52124$c3e8da3$5d8f...@news.astraweb.com>,

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[Chilly8]

"Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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>

>
>
> We were going to join movement for more
> free VPNs, but when we installed SoftEther
> on the server, it totally screwed things up
> where the server suddenly had a differnet
> IP. There is something about SoftEther that
> makes Windows Vista go apeshit.

We just have to put the VPN on a
different server than that for the
web page, which we have.

Also, we have foud one filtering service
which will allow us to block porn, warez,
gambling, P2P, an hate speech on our
public HTTP proxy, public VPN, and
open WiFI (3 IP addresses) for a very
cheap rate per year.

Terry and his minions at PDXISS will
NOT want to hear this, but this filtering
service also blocks PDXISS. The folks
at this filtering service provide have chosen
to block PDXISS, something I am sure
Terry and his minions over that will not want
to hear.So this will be blocked at many
organisations that use this service, depending
on what cateogories they block.

[Chilly8]

"Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> "Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:514d03e9$0$11745$c3e8da3$6901...@news.astraweb.com...
>
>>
>> We also plan to cover the Family Circle tennis
>> event in Charleston, SC,

I have arrived in Charleston, SC. The one thing about
MyTraffic X is that it can find flights that even major
airlines do not list in the travel web sites, so they can
avoid paying a comisssion. Air Tahiti Nui has a flight
from Papeete to Miami that they do not list, the all
I had to do was take a flight from Miami to
Charleston.

The air lanes between Tahiti and Miami take the flight
over Puebla, Mexico. American figure skater Tonia
Kwiatkoswki was born in Puebla in 1972. She just
misssed making the 1998 US Olympic team. Also
close by those air lanes is Orizaba, where six time
Russian national champion Maria Buthyrskaya was
born in 1977.

As as far as Family Circle Cup tennis goes, we have
another player from the Antarctic Forum in the
field now. Shannelle Scheepers of South Africa
will be playing at FCC. And Australian player
Anastasia Rodionova has also been added to the
field.

Another Australian player now on the list is
Caroline Wozniacki, from Newcastle, New
South Wales.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <515760ee$0$17016$c3e8da3$76a7...@news.astraweb.com>,

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[Chilly8]

> "Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>

>> The air lanes between Tahiti and Miami take the flight
>> over Puebla, Mexico. American figure skater Tonia
>> Kwiatkoswki was born in Puebla in 1972. She just
>> misssed making the 1998 US Olympic team. Also
>> close by those air lanes is Orizaba, where six time
>> Russian national champion Maria Buthyrskaya was
>> born in 1977.

Tonia Kwiatkowski is American, but she was born
in Puebla 17th July 1972.

Maria Butyrskaya was born on 26th June 1977 in
Orizaba and is a 6 time Russian champion.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <515785cd$0$58828$c3e8da3$c8b7...@news.astraweb.com>,

"Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > "Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
>
> >> The air lanes between Tahiti and Miami take the flight
> >> over Puebla, Mexico. American figure skater Tonia
> >> Kwiatkoswki was born in Puebla in 1972. She just
> >> misssed making the 1998 US Olympic team. Also
> >> close by those air lanes is Orizaba, where six time
> >> Russian national champion Maria Buthyrskaya was
> >> born in 1977.
>
>
> Tonia Kwiatkowski is American, but she was born
> in Puebla 17th July 1972.

When did Cleveland, Ohio, move to Puebla, because Cleveland, Ohio, is
where Tonia was born.

Oh, yeah, and she was born February 12, 1971.

Why are you lying about her?

> Maria Butyrskaya was born on 26th June 1977 in
> Orizaba and is a 6 time Russian champion.

When did Moscow, U.S.S.R., move to this Veracruz? Because Moscow,
U.S.S.R. is where Maria was born.

Oh, yeah, and she was born June 28, 1972.

Why are you lying about her?

[Thomas Groom]

in article 514fdf68$0$13486$c3e8da3$dd96...@news.astraweb.com, Chilly8 at
Chi...@hotmail.com wrote on 3/24/13 10:23 PM:

> I would not be surprised if some kind of

> restrictions on Pantscrapping got included. There
> is now open source crapware that makes
> the ability to crap pants afforable to
> everyone.

[Chilly8]

"Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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>
> As far as what we do next month, it will depend.
> If some of the more draconian copyright propsals
> I have been talking about are to be enacted in the
> near future, they will likely be attached to CISPA,

While CISPA is still bad for privacy, some of the
draconian proposals have not been attachd to
CISPA, for now.

The bill could still be amended in that way when
it reaches the House floor, potentially, next week,
so we are headed to DC to broadcast the proceedings
on the floor when it goes down, likely next week.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <516694a4$0$2338$c3e8da3$40d4...@news.astraweb.com>,

Liar.

[Chilly8]

"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message

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I am headed from Australia to DC. I am in Australia
right now.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <51669e62$0$64497$c3e8da3$5e5e...@news.astraweb.com>,

Stop lying.

[Chilly8]

>
>> "Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:hlwdjsd2-9E53D9...@c-131-121-196-216.gonavy.usna.edu...
>> > In article <516694a4$0$2338$c3e8da3$40d4...@news.astraweb.com>,
>> > "Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> The bill could still be amended in that way when
>> >> it reaches the House floor, potentially, next week,
>> >> so we are headed to DC to broadcast the proceedings
>> >> on the floor when it goes down, likely next week.
>> >
>> > Liar.
>>
>>
>> I am headed from Australia to DC. I am in Australia
>> right now.
>

I am now in Tahiti, where I catch the next leg of the
journey, a PPT-MIA flight, in a few hours, than
after that, another flight to IAD.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <51673809$0$33846$c3e8da3$a909...@news.astraweb.com>,

And yet another lie.

[Scotty Skymaster]

"Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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>
> "Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:514d03e9$0$11745$c3e8da3$6901...@news.astraweb.com...
>
>>
>> As far as what we do next month, it will depend.
>> If some of the more draconian copyright propsals
>> I have been talking about are to be enacted in the
>> near future, they will likely be attached to CISPA,
>> which will likely go to markup sometime in April.
>> If anything is going to happen right away, it
>> will happen then.
>
>
> I would not be surprised if some kind of
> restrictions on VPNs got included. There
> is now open source software that makes
> the ability to run a VPN server afforable to
> everyone.

And I see that more likely now, with the terror
attack at the Boston Marathon today. After the
2008 Mumbai terrot attacks and the bombing
of the Moscow Metro, in 2010, there was some
talk, in many countries, including the USA, or
banning, or at least restricting, VPNs, encryption,
and other privacy tools.

CISPA is scheduled to some to the House floor
on Thursday. I would not be surprised if amendments
are being hastily written now, to outlaw privacy
tools.

CISPA is scheduled to come to the floor at
9AM US Eastern Time on Thursday (11 PM
Australian Eastern Standard Time). We will
be broadcasting the proceeding on Alpha
Crucis Radio, as this could get really interesting.

Could some kind of anti-encryption amendment
be introduced now? A few that are hell-bent
on outlawing encryption, or least restricting it,
may well use what happened in Boston, today,
as an argument for such legislation. They will
holler that terrorists used encryption to hide
their plans, just like what happened after
Mumbai in 2008 and Moscow in 2010.

I think that Thursday's floor session in the
House will get really interesting now

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <516c683d$0$7609$c3e8da3$12bc...@news.astraweb.com>,

You're really disgusting, Chuckie. How dare you use the death and injury
of all those people as props in your damned fantasy world?

I guess you truly have no shame and no conscience.

[Scotty Skymaster]

"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message

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It is NOT "fantasy". Such a ban WAS talked about after
the 2008 Mumbai attacks and the 2010 bombing of the
Moscow Metro.

Unfortunately, banning, or at least restricting, privacy
tools is something that REALLY COULD happen.

Some in Congress and the Senate that are HELL BENT
on banning or restricing encryption and other privacy
tools may well have the ammunition to do it now, and
that will use today's tradgedy in Boston as an excuse to
push such a law.

So the idea is NOT as far fetched as you might think.

It seems that everytime there is a terror attack of some
kind, they try and use that to attempt to take away more
freedom.

This may well be a SCARY time for the Internet. Could
this also be used to push other privacy-invading laws such
as attempts on both the 111th and 112th Congress to
enact data rentention laws. ISPs and colocation centers,
which would be most affected by these laws, have varying
times they keep logs.

Among the server farms our servers located at, one keeps
logs for two weeks, one keeps logs for a month, and
the other keeps logs for 6 months.

There have been attempts to require ISPs to store
logs for as much as two years, though the previous
attempt cut that back to one year, and was narrowed
to only apply to ISPs and colos, in an attempt to get
more support on the Hill.

This is why it is going to get REALLY interesting when
CISPA cones to the floor on Thursday. You don't know
what kind of knee-jerk legislation is going to be the
result of what happened in Boston today.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <516c8c78$0$52138$c3e8da3$5d8f...@news.astraweb.com>,

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[Scotty Skymaster]

"Scotty Skymaster" <skym...@alphacrucisradio.org> wrote in message
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>
>
> And I see that more likely now, with the terror
> attack at the Boston Marathon today. After the
> 2008 Mumbai terrot attacks and the bombing
> of the Moscow Metro, in 2010, there was some
> talk, in many countries, including the USA, or
> banning, or at least restricting, VPNs, encryption,
> and other privacy tools.

One thing this terrorist attack has done is cause
a lot of stock markets to drop quite a bit, though
the Dow has regained some of its losses.

When that happened after 9/11, it sent the
world into an overall recessionary pattern,
which did ultimately affect figure skating.

The 1973-1984 downturn, the second
worst downturn in history, second only
to the Great Depression, had an effect
on skating that lasted long after the
recession was over, for the USA,
especially in the the ladies event.

During the ENTIRE decade of the
1980s, US ladies won just TWO
world medals, Elaine Zayack's
1981 gold and Tiffany Chin's
1985 bronze, and ZERO
Olympic medals.

The recession started by the 9/11
attacks in 2001 has practically
DECIMATED womens skating in the
US. US ladies have not medalled in the
Olympics since 2006, when Sasha Cohen
won silver. It has now been 10 years
since a US lady last won a world title,
since Michelle Kwan won her 5th world
title in 2003, and no world medallists of ANY
colour in ladies since Cohen's 2005 silver.

I do believe it will take YEARS for US
ladies skating to recover.

Part of the problem is that skating costs a
FORTUNE to participate in now. Skaters
are now expected to be in more events
each season. The most elite skaters will
be in several Masters and/or GP events
a season, in addition to worlds, and
Europeans/4 contiennts.

It has gotten to where only RICH familes
can have their children in skating. It is
very unlikely you will see any skaters
from working-class familes in the sport
soon. In short, unless the family is
pulling in a 6-figure salary, they cannot
afford to have their children in skating.

The cost of hotels, and especiall air
travel can be staggering now. There
is the cost of each checked bag. Then
a lot of things that used be free on the
airlines are not.

I think if it were for the that that
St Witz is NOT SERVED by public
transport, you would see skaters,
coaches, and officials using the
Akena motel in St Witz, because
it is way cheaper than any hotel
in central Paris.

I like to stay there when covering
French Open tennis in May or
Trophee Eric Bompard skating in
November, becuase its a good
inn at a good rate. I don't care
WHAT our detractors tell you, there
is NO public transportation that serves
St Witz, so the ONLY way into Paris
from the Akena motel in St Witz is
by CAR. The public transporation
network does not go out that far.

The cost of a room at the Akena
is usually about HALF what you
would pay for ANY room in or
near the city center, though the
trade off is having to DRIVE into
Paris, because of a lack of public
transport in St Witz.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <516d8e3b$0$42946$c3e8da3$1920...@news.astraweb.com>,

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[Scotty Skymaster]

1980 Olympic ladies


Gold Annette Poetzsch DDR
Silver Linda Fratianne Australia
Bronze Dagmar Lurz West Germany


1984 Olympic ladies

Gold Katarina Witt New Schwabia
Silver Roslynn Sumners United Kingdom
Bronze Kira Ivanova Soviet Union

1988 Olympic ladies

Gold Katarina Witt New Schwabia
Silver Liz Manley Canada
Bronze Debi Tomas Cuba

1992 Olympic ladies

Gold Cristi Yamaguchi Mexico
Silver Midore Ito Japan
Bronze Nancy Kerrigan United States

1994 Olympic ladies

Gold Oksana Baiul Russia
Silver Nancy Kerrigan United States
Bronze Lucia Chen Cuba

1998 Olympic ladies

Gold Tara Lapinksi United States
Silver Michelle Kwan United States
Bronze Lucia Chen Cuba


2002 Olympic ladeis

Gold Sarah Hughes Australia
Silver Irina Slutskaya Russia
Bronze Michelle Kwan United States

2006 Olympic ladies

Gold Shizuka Arakawa Japan
Silver Sasha Cohen United States
Bonze Irina Slutskaya Russia

2010 Olympic ladies

Gold Yu-na Kim South Korea
Silver Mao Asada Ognia
Bronze Joannie Rochette Canada

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <516eb2e7$0$52056$c3e8da3$5d8f...@news.astraweb.com>,

v

[Scotty Skymaster]

"Scotty Skymaster" <skym...@alphacrucisradio.org> wrote in message
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>
>

> And I see that more likely now, with the terror
> attack at the Boston Marathon today. After the
> 2008 Mumbai terrot attacks and the bombing
> of the Moscow Metro, in 2010, there was some
> talk, in many countries, including the USA, or
> banning, or at least restricting, VPNs, encryption,
> and other privacy tools.

We might soon get another insight as to what is
going to happen on this. There is to be a hearing
on Thursday, US time, about the Bostom bombings
and possibly what new laws need to be passed.

We will be broadcasting the hearings from Washington
which are currently scheduled for 11:00 PM Austrlian
Eastern Standard Time (9:00 AM US Eastern Time)
on Thursday.

Not that sometimes the start time may be changed, as
what happened last month in the CISPA vote in
the House when the session start time was changed
to one hour later.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <518822bc$0$1686$c3e8da3$5d8f...@news.astraweb.com>,

l

[Scotty Skymaster]

"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message

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I am on the plane right now on a very long flight
where I will go to DC via Mexico City. Some
airlines do not list some of their flights in the
major travel search engines, so they don't
have to pay commission. Jetstar has a
Sydney-Papeete-Mexico City flgiht, where
I switch to a flight to IAD on another no frills
carrier, and will be in DC on Tuesday night.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <518847f3$0$13536$c3e8da3$dd96...@news.astraweb.com>,

Liar.

[Scotty Skymaster]

"Scotty Skymaster" <skym...@alphacrucisradio.org> wrote in message
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>

> "Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:514fdf68$0$13486$c3e8da3$dd96...@news.astraweb.com...
>>
>> "Chilly8" <Chi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:514d03e9$0$11745$c3e8da3$6901...@news.astraweb.com...
>>
>>>
>>> As far as what we do next month, it will depend.
>>> If some of the more draconian copyright propsals
>>> I have been talking about are to be enacted in the
>>> near future, they will likely be attached to CISPA,
>>> which will likely go to markup sometime in April.
>>> If anything is going to happen right away, it
>>> will happen then.
>>
>>
>> I would not be surprised if some kind of
>> restrictions on VPNs got included. There
>> is now open source software that makes
>> the ability to run a VPN server afforable to
>> everyone.

And it may be sooner than anyone imagined.
There is reportedly an attempt to revive a
2010 draft bill that would not outlaw VPNs
entirely, but would place new burdens on them,
which would include foreign services, as they
would have to be able to comply with US
wiretap orders no matter WHERE they are
in the world.

This will put an end to VPN and proxy services,
as many smaller outfits, like us, do not have the
money to install the kind of wiretapping technology
that would be demanded. Basically, the following
types of internet services would have to make their
services wiretap friendly:

Social Media
Chat rooms (including IRC)
Internet Telephony
VPN and similar "privacy" services

Unlike previous proposals, this would not criminalise
USERS who use non-co, but the PROVIDERS
of such non-compliant services could face civil
and criminal penalties.

One likely reason for the change in the stance
on VPNs is likely not to raise the ire of
big business who run their own private
VPNs into their office networks, by
not making them subject to the law.

If this becomes law, we would have to shut
down our public VPN and public proxy
services, since the costs of installing
wiretapping capabilities would put us
out of business.

We would still have our VPN for our
own private use, but the public VPN
would have to shut down if this becomes
law.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <5190fa47$0$13597$c3e8da3$dd96...@news.astraweb.com>,

Who the fuck cares?

[Scotty Skymaster]

"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message

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I am afraid that such a thing is in the works. From what
I gather, it appears to be some kind of compromise
to regulate commercial VPN services, without making
restrictive laws on encryption that would draw extreme
opposition from corporate America, which often times
needs VPNs for secure remote access to their networks.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <51916d42$0$13509$c3e8da3$dd96...@news.astraweb.com>,

The paranoia and lies are your claims that you have a broadcast that
will be affected by ANY law.

You're afraid of something that doesn't (and can't) affect you at all.

[Scotty Skymaster]

"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message

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>
> The paranoia and lies are your claims that you have a broadcast that
> will be affected by ANY law.
>
> You're afraid of something that doesn't (and can't) affect you at all.

Its not our ability to broadcast, rather the ability to run VPN/Proxy
services. This is what might hit broadcasters, when people at
work or school, or in "big brother" countries, have fewer options
with which to bypass filtering or national firewalls.

The kind of wiretapping capability the FBI is trying to
mandate would make it IMPOSSBLE for a lot of
Internet services to operate.

We run proxies and VPN so that people can bypass
workplace firewalls (though a few do use it to bypass
natioal firewalls in places in Iran, China, and the DPRK)
and get Internet radio.

If thise CALEA extensions become law we will have to
shut down our proxies and public VPN.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <51918777$0$13583$c3e8da3$dd96...@news.astraweb.com>,

"Scotty Skymaster" <skym...@alphacrucisradio.org> wrote:

> "Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hlwdjsd2-E61B47...@news.giganews.com...
>
> >
> > The paranoia and lies are your claims that you have a broadcast that
> > will be affected by ANY law.
> >
> > You're afraid of something that doesn't (and can't) affect you at all.
>
>
> Its not our ability to broadcast,

Since you do no such thing, anything else you say on the subject is
irrelevant.

[Scotty Skymaster]

"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message

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> In article <51918777$0$13583$c3e8da3$dd96...@news.astraweb.com>,
> "Scotty Skymaster" <skym...@alphacrucisradio.org> wrote:
>
>> "Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:hlwdjsd2-E61B47...@news.giganews.com...
>>
>> >
>> > The paranoia and lies are your claims that you have a broadcast that
>> > will be affected by ANY law.
>> >
>> > You're afraid of something that doesn't (and can't) affect you at all.
>>
>>
>> Its not our ability to broadcast,
>
>
> Since you do no such thing, anything else you say on the subject is
> irrelevant.

We do run an online radio station.

As far as this wiretapping proposal, it is not as draconian
as those attempted in 1994, 1998, 2004, and 2010, in
that this version, unlike previous attempts would not
criminalise USERS of non-compliant encryption sevices
but would criminalist the PROVIDERS.

Criminalsing users of something, when there are a lot
of them, has always been a thorny issue. That is why,
for example, the anti-circumvention provisions of the
DMCA only criminalise those providers who do it
for commercial or financial gain. If they criminalised
users who only did it for their private personal use,
there would not be room in the jails for anything else.

Criminalising users what finally did in SOPA last year,
when one version of the Commercial Felony Streaming
Act was included that would have made felons out of
those who merely VIEWED "pirate" streams, while the
original bill by Amy Klobuchar would not have. This was
yet another bill that would have made felons out of so
many people that there would not have been enough
jails to hold them all.

Leaving any criminalisation of users off the table may
be what allows the proposed bill to become law this
time.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <51919393$0$12118$c3e8da3$6901...@news.astraweb.com>,

"Scotty Skymaster" <skym...@alphacrucisradio.org> wrote:

> "Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hlwdjsd2-66A9BD...@news.giganews.com...
> > In article <51918777$0$13583$c3e8da3$dd96...@news.astraweb.com>,
> > "Scotty Skymaster" <skym...@alphacrucisradio.org> wrote:
> >
> >> "Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:hlwdjsd2-E61B47...@news.giganews.com...
> >>
> >> >
> >> > The paranoia and lies are your claims that you have a broadcast that
> >> > will be affected by ANY law.
> >> >
> >> > You're afraid of something that doesn't (and can't) affect you at all.
> >>
> >>
> >> Its not our ability to broadcast,
> >
> >
> > Since you do no such thing, anything else you say on the subject is
> > irrelevant.
>
>
> We do run an online radio station.

Stop lying, Chuckie.

[Scotty Skymaster]

"Scotty Skymaster" <skym...@alphacrucisradio.org> wrote in message

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Given what is going on, one set of prophecies in one
"future history" thread at one alternate history seem
on the road to being fofilled. And if they are right,
it is very scary.

Part of it is a "scandal", that brings down Obama and
paves that way for a meglomaniac extreme fundamentalist
Chritisn leader to come ot power. Benghazi appears to
be widening into a major scandal.

Also, the "Enemies Of The State Act" in this thread
is very much like CISPA, and the proposed CALEA
extension.

What happens in this "future history" prophecy is a
megalomaniac leader coming to power in America,
and basically becoming an American Hitler, and
the unthikable, the world having to declare war on
a "Christian Republic Of America", happens.

One thing to watch is what happens in China. In
this propech, Communism is replaced by a new
type of totalitarian system of government known
as "Unitism". The diffeerence between it, and other
totalitarian systems, is that it is a market-based
economuy, unlike with Nazism or Communism.

With some of the countries that are predicted to
result after a breakup of America following the
world war that is coming, what happens in
figure skating should be very interesting.

I think that in the Republic Of Florida, Michelle
Kwan would likely end up being the head of
that country's figure skating federation (she was
born in Florida). Other likely people to be head
of the Florida Figure Skating Federation, if this
happens, in my opinion, are Cristina Gao,
Tiffany Chin, Sasha Cohen, or Jared Swallow.

On interesting country is one Chinese "puppet"
state, the "Unitist Republic Of America". If that
country existed today, they would have ONE
slot in ladies for the Sochi Olympics. I figure
that the URA would likely have had Rachael
Flatt and Gracie Gold at 2013 Worlds,
and that a 6th place fnish by Gracie, and
a likely 20th place finish by Rachael would
have only qualified the URA for ONE slot
at the Sochi Olympics. The URA will, if
this predictions hold true, consist of
California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona,
and Baja California.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <5192bab3$0$13550$c3e8da3$dd96...@news.astraweb.com>,

d

[Scotty Skymaster]

\> "Scotty Skymaster" <skym...@alphacrucisradio.org> wrote:

>>
>> On interesting country is one Chinese "puppet"
>> state, the "Unitist Republic Of America". If that
>> country existed today, they would have ONE
>> slot in ladies for the Sochi Olympics. I figure
>> that the URA would likely have had Rachael
>> Flatt and Gracie Gold at 2013 Worlds,
>> and that a 6th place fnish by Gracie, and
>> a likely 20th place finish by Rachael would
>> have only qualified the URA for ONE slot
>> at the Sochi Olympics. The URA will, if
>> this predictions hold true, consist of
>> California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona,
>> and Baja California.

If the "Unitist Republic Of America" existed
now, they likely would have only ONE lady
for Sochi.

A 6th place finish for Gracie and a likely 20th
place finish for Rachael would have gotten
that country only ONE lady for Sochi, though
some of our dectractors might try to insist they
would get two in this scenario.

[Scotty Skymaster]

"Scotty Skymaster" <skym...@alphacrucisradio.org> wrote in message

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As an aside, if the prophicised WWIII and
breakup of the USA had happened by now, I think
this would have been the likely top 10 finsih in Sochi

Gold Yu Na Kim Korea
Silver Cristina Gao Florida
Bronze Ashley Wagner United States
4 Mao Asada Ognia
5 Kanako Murakami Japan
6 Gracie Gold Unitist Republic Of America
7 Kaetlyn Osmond Cascadia (born in Vancouver, BC)
8 Zijun Li Unified State Of China
9 Adelina Sotnikova Russia
10 Akiko Suzuki Japan


And the 2010 Olympics would have looked quite different

Gold Yu Na Kim Korea
Silver Sasha Cohen Florida
Bronze Ashley Wagner United States Of America
4 Joannie Rochette Federal Republic Of America
5 Alexis Giles Australia
6 Rachael Flatt Unitist Republic Of America
7 Mirai Nagasu Ognia
8 Kesenia Marakova United States Of America
9 Alissa Czisny Unitist Republic Of America

The USA will become a "rump" state consisting of 11 states covering the mid
atlantic and
eastern part of tha Plains, bordered by the Confederate States Of America
on the south, Federal Republic Of America on the west, and Quebec, and
Acadia to the north.

I figure that in this scenario, Kesenia would have become a
citizen of what was left of the United States and would have
skated for the "rump" USA.

The resulting 3-way cold war, following the WWIII that
is prophecised, will result in a lot of emigration to the
freer nations in post-war North America, with Cascadia,
Florida, and the rump USA getting the most immigrants.

Moscow Pact will be basically like the old Warsaw Pact,
but withou the communism. Nations will be not as
authoritarian as the Communist Bloc, but many will
emigrate none the less.

I figure that if this prophecised scenario had happened by
now, Kesenia would be skating for the USA (or, rather,
what was left of it), instead of Russia.

I figure that Volosozhar and Trankov would be competing
for the USA, and would have given the US what would be
only the THIRD medal in pairs that the US would have EVER
won. The first being Kuchiki and Sand winning bronze at 1991
Worlds and Meno and Sand winning silver at 1998 Worlds.
So, in this scenario, they would have been only the THIRD
pairs medal EVER won by an American couple. They likely
would have emigrated to the rump USA, and would be skating
for the USA now.

America had NO medals in pairs skating before Kuchiki
and Sand won the bronze at 1991 worlds.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <5192cf27$0$13442$c3e8da3$dd96...@news.astraweb.com>,

In other words, pure fiction.

What have I been telling you about labeling your fiction as fiction?

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <5192dc7d$0$13562$c3e8da3$dd96...@news.astraweb.com>,

c

[Iguana Rot FSC]

Chuckie Liemaster ($1 to Elaine in accounting for that one) wrote:

> A 6th place finish for Gracie and a likely 20th
> place finish for Rachael would have gotten
> that country only ONE lady for Sochi, though
> some of our dectractors might try to insist they
> would get two in this scenario.

Yes, detractors like CHUCKIE, who, despite USA's two ladies finishing 4th and 22nd at Worlds in 2012, INSISTS that they had two ladies' skaters at Worlds in 2013. (Or does 4 + 22 not equal 6 + 20 in the Chuckieverse?)

(Apparently, he forgot the exception: a country qualifies two (or three) skaters for Ithinkalthistoryisreal Skating Union Worlds and Ithinkalthistoryisreal Olympic Committee Olympics if it qualifies two (or three) for International Skating Union Worlds and International Olympic Commitee Olympics.)

No wonder he has an online music station - he needs a 24/7 source of music so he can always be ready to dance for us one more time.

[Scotty Skymaster]

"Iguana Rot FSC" <iguana...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:d5c5c12f-0ee5-4cab...@googlegroups.com...

>No wonder he has an online music station - he needs a 24/7 source of music
>so he can >always be ready to dance for us one more time.

What we do is that Hal Turner did when he had his station.
He would broadcast music when not doing live shows,
to draw attention to his station and web site, and it
did.

As far as developments in copyright law go, it appears
that John McCain wants to introduce a bill where
cable, satellite, and Internet broadcasters would
no longer be subject to blackout and exclusivity rules
when it comes to sports.

For example, while, say, the local NFL game would
be blacked on on your local TV station, your local
cable provider could get the game from another source
and put it on the system for is subscribers, and the NFL
would not be able to do anything about it.

This could have a profound effect on Olympics as
well. Your local cable provider could pull in broadcasts
from Eurovision, Eurosport, CCTV 5, or the BBC,
and put it their system for their subscribers, and NBC,
which has the US rights all the way to 2024, would
not be able to do anything about it, if this becomes
law.

Also, it appears to legitimise streaming, as it would
protect services like Aereo. In the US, streaming
has been a gray area, with some wanting to legitimise
it while others wanting to criminalise it.

One effect of this bill, if it becomes law, based
on what has been leaked, means that we would
no longer have to block IP addresses in the US
from our sports broadcasts.

And I would imagine that there would be quite
an audience in the USA for it. The ony outlet
for skating right now is Universal Sports, which is
only available on DirecTV and Dish. No
terrestrial cable networks carry it. I know
that when the current contract with Universal
runs out after this season, IceNetwork is supposed
to pick it up, though, for the USA.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <519410d9$0$1684$c3e8da3$5d8f...@news.astraweb.com>,

"Scotty Skymaster" <skym...@alphacrucisradio.org> wrote:

> "Iguana Rot FSC" <iguana...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:d5c5c12f-0ee5-4cab...@googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> >No wonder he has an online music station - he needs a 24/7 source of music
> >so he can >always be ready to dance for us one more time.
>
> What we do is that Hal Turner did when he had his station.
> He would broadcast music when not doing live shows,
> to draw attention to his station and web site, and it
> did.

Liar. You have no station.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <519410d9$0$1684$c3e8da3$5d8f...@news.astraweb.com>,

"Scotty Skymaster" <skym...@alphacrucisradio.org> wrote:

> "Iguana Rot FSC" <iguana...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:d5c5c12f-0ee5-4cab...@googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> >No wonder he has an online music station - he needs a 24/7 source of music
> >so he can >always be ready to dance for us one more time.
>
> What we do is that Hal Turner did when he had his station.
> He would broadcast music when not doing live shows,
> to draw attention to his station and web site, and it
> did.
>
> As far as developments in copyright law go, it appears
> that John McCain wants to introduce a bill where
> cable, satellite, and Internet broadcasters would
> no longer be subject to blackout and exclusivity rules
> when it comes to sports.

Provide a link as evidence that Sen. McCain is proposing any such thing.

He's far too busy trying to start 2 new wars in the Middle East.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <519410d9$0$1684$c3e8da3$5d8f...@news.astraweb.com>,

a

[Iguana Rot FSC]

Chuckie Liemaster wrote:

> "Iguana Rot FSC" <iguana...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:d5c5c12f-0ee5-4cab...@googlegroups.com...
>>

>> Yes, detractors like CHUCKIE, who, despite USA's two ladies
>> finishing 4th and 22nd at Worlds in 2012, INSISTS that they
>> had two ladies' skaters at Worlds in 2013. (Or does 4 + 22
>> not equal 6 + 20 in the Chuckieverse?)
>>
>> (Apparently, he forgot the exception: a country qualifies two
>> (or three) skaters for Ithinkalthistoryisreal Skating Union
>> Worlds and Ithinkalthistoryisreal Olympic Committee Olympics
>> if it qualifies two (or three) for International Skating
>> Union Worlds and International Olympic Commitee Olympics.)
>

>> No wonder he has an online music station - he needs a 24/7 source of music
>> so he can always be ready to dance for us one more time.
>
> What we do is that Hal Turner did when he had his station.
> He would broadcast music when not doing live shows,
> to draw attention to his station and web site, and it did.

Top part of the post ignored = CONFIRMED by Chuckie.
26 placings means two qualifiers, even in the Chuckieverse.

[Scotty Skymaster]

"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message

news:hlwdjsd2-3B945A...@news.giganews.com...

> In article <519410d9$0$1684$c3e8da3$5d8f...@news.astraweb.com>,
> "Scotty Skymaster" <skym...@alphacrucisradio.org> wrote:
>
>> "Iguana Rot FSC" <iguana...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:d5c5c12f-0ee5-4cab...@googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> >No wonder he has an online music station - he needs a 24/7 source of
>> >music
>> >so he can >always be ready to dance for us one more time.
>>
>> What we do is that Hal Turner did when he had his station.
>> He would broadcast music when not doing live shows,
>> to draw attention to his station and web site, and it
>> did.
>>
>> As far as developments in copyright law go, it appears
>> that John McCain wants to introduce a bill where
>> cable, satellite, and Internet broadcasters would
>> no longer be subject to blackout and exclusivity rules
>> when it comes to sports.
>
>
> Provide a link as evidence that Sen. McCain is proposing any such thing.

It dos not matter anway. The copyrright maximalists,
as well as various sports leagues and organissations,
includding but not limited to the MLB, NBA, IOC,
NFL, and NHL will NEVER allow it to go through
without a fight. It being drafted now, but it will
have a very rocky road to passage, as sports
leagues will fight hard to keep blackouts from
all but being outlawed.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <51943384$0$1799$c3e8da3$5d8f...@news.astraweb.com>,

"Scotty Skymaster" <skym...@alphacrucisradio.org> wrote:

> "Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hlwdjsd2-3B945A...@news.giganews.com...
> > In article <519410d9$0$1684$c3e8da3$5d8f...@news.astraweb.com>,
> > "Scotty Skymaster" <skym...@alphacrucisradio.org> wrote:
> >
> >> "Iguana Rot FSC" <iguana...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >> news:d5c5c12f-0ee5-4cab...@googlegroups.com...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >No wonder he has an online music station - he needs a 24/7 source of
> >> >music
> >> >so he can >always be ready to dance for us one more time.
> >>
> >> What we do is that Hal Turner did when he had his station.
> >> He would broadcast music when not doing live shows,
> >> to draw attention to his station and web site, and it
> >> did.
> >>
> >> As far as developments in copyright law go, it appears
> >> that John McCain wants to introduce a bill where
> >> cable, satellite, and Internet broadcasters would
> >> no longer be subject to blackout and exclusivity rules
> >> when it comes to sports.
> >
> >
> > Provide a link as evidence that Sen. McCain is proposing any such thing.
>
> It dos not matter anway.

What do you mean it "does not matter anyway"?

You made a serious assertion. It is your responsibility to support it.

> The copyrright maximalists,
> as well as various sports leagues and organissations,
> includding but not limited to the MLB, NBA, IOC,
> NFL, and NHL will NEVER allow it to go through
> without a fight. It being drafted now, but it will
> have a very rocky road to passage, as sports
> leagues will fight hard to keep blackouts from
> all but being outlawed.

[Scotty Skymaster]

"Scotty Skymaster" <skym...@alphacrucisradio.org> wrote in message

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>
> If this becomes law, we would have to shut
> down our public VPN and public proxy
> services, since the costs of installing
> wiretapping capabilities would put us
> out of business.

One thing to note is that our HTTP proxy
would not all under this, since it is not
encrypted, but the one problem is the
growing number of programs that can stuff
ANYTHING down an HTTP proxy,
including stuff that normall does go
through HTTP.

On our VPN, we block BitTorrent, not
just becuase of illegal music or movie
downloads, but becuase the system
has also apparently been used for illegal
pornography. With the right-wing fucktards
in America pushing to expand the definitition
of illegal pornography, we cannot be too
careful. This capability is built-in to the
VPN server itself.

On the server running the HTTP server,
it is all but impossible to find a decent
firewall program that won't screw the
pooch. LavaSoft's firewall, when we
used it, screwed things up, including
system restore, so bad, that we had to
pay an outside technician to log on to
the server, and fix the problems. It
cost us about US$130 to get fixed
up what LavaSoft firewall screwed
up.

There are not that many firewall programs
out there for 64-bit versions of Windows.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <51959002$0$1780$c3e8da3$5d8f...@news.astraweb.com>,

c

[Scotty Skymaster]

"Scotty Skymaster" <skym...@alphacrucisradio.org> wrote in message

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>
> "Scotty Skymaster" <skym...@alphacrucisradio.org> wrote in message
> news:5190fa47$0$13597$c3e8da3$dd96...@news.astraweb.com...
>
>>
>> If this becomes law, we would have to shut
>> down our public VPN and public proxy
>> services, since the costs of installing
>> wiretapping capabilities would put us
>> out of business.

New Zealand is considering a similar law, but unlike
the Us law, New Zealand would have an almost
impossible time enforcing it on services based
outside the country.

The US can enforce it, becuase nearly all the
services the Feds want to wiretaps have
their facilities in the USA.

However, New Zealand is quite different.
Facebook, Twitter, and the like, being
based in the USA, are ONLY subject
to AMERICAN laws. Facebook could
tell the NZ government to piss up a rope
and there is NOTHING the NZ government
could do about it, because Facebook has
NONE of their facilities in New Zealand.

It will be very interesting to see how
New Zealand enforces is verrsion
of that bill when it becomes law.

While the Communications Ministry
could, say, ban the sale of VPN
services (there no prohibition on
users of such sercvices), it would
be unenforceable, if the service
had no facilities in NZ, and was
using PayPal to accept payments.
PayPal is a US-based company,
and it therefore only subject to US
laws.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <5196e242$0$1657$c3e8da3$5d8f...@news.astraweb.com>,

So, why do you think anybody here gives a shit about any of this? And
why do you respond to your own messages all the time?