i just saw an old video of nirvanas, and i realized it was high time i bash
this suicide fuckface kurt. his music sucked... whack lyrics and no rhythm..
he was fuckin ugly.. lame ass thrift store clothes and fuckin hella dirty hair
didnt compliment his prepubescent body.. he was a closet homosexual who was too
much of a wimp to put his dick in a pussy so he shot himself.. good.. he
sucked.. grunge was a whack idea.. that guy was utterly brainless.. no pun
intended.. fuck nirvana.
tron411..
ps.. if you live in the northwest united states or canada, fuck you..
pps.. or in guam, hawaii, or puerto rico.
PS- Kurt Cobain and Nirvana were cool.
-Brad & Frank-
As sorry as this sounds, i must for one agree with Tron although the guy
had no argument. Kurt Cobain was a fuck up. He only made progress by
letting people pity him for being descriminated as "alternative". He had
nothing to say, no talent. He was simply a dumb, sorry for himself,
heroin addict. I dont blame the guy for killing himself. he deserved it.
--
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JERRY'S DEAD KURT'S GONE WHO WILL LEAD US NOW?
"experiencing the warm feeling that only comes from eight hundred casino
dollars in your pocket and a machine gun on your shoulder"
-natas kaupas
He had no talent, you're saying but he sold a hell of a lot of records
and he was pretty popular and his death was mourned by millions. Sure,
he did drugs and stuff but I mean these days who doesn't? And as for
you saying he deserved to committ suicide and die, that's pretty mean,
nobody deserves to die.
Amy Leindecker
If I lived in Alaska I would flip over my igloo and skate it.
LEMMY
jason dexter graham wrote:
>
> JERRY'S DEAD KURT'S GONE WHO WILL LEAD US NOW?
>
> "experiencing the warm feeling that only comes from eight hundred casino
> dollars in your pocket and a machine gun on your shoulder"
> -natas kaupas
>
> On Sat, 17 Jan 1998, NathanDuMoulin wrote:
>
> > Kenneth R Sanders wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey, what's your problem?
> > > We're two skaters from Alaska. You know, the Northwest US. What's your
> > > problem.
> > >
kurt cobain was a very special artist who touched many people
so was jerry garcia...your argument is based on guitar technique...i
suggest you listen to some steve vai or old van halen...or even savatage
"experiencing the warm feeling that only comes from eight hundred casino
dollars in your pocket and a machine gun on your shoulder"
-natas kaupas
He sold millions of records because people though that he had something
important and original to say. Something nobody has ever tried to
express that way. However, our society's ignorance towards the
perspective and thoughts concerning ideals, governement and morals of
millions of people, led them to beleive that he was someone special. It
was only because of a growing popularity in what is now considered
"alternative" that brought him to thier attention. Had he not been
glamorized for the idiot he is, he, as well as his so called style of
life, would still not be accepted. It is therefore the fault of the
media for causing such a stir over something so small and insignificant.
And yes, some people deserve to die. Be it because of pity, or
inhumanity, some people are better off dead. It allows others who
appreciate life, to live with less concern. Besides, sometimes death is
not a negative thing. I for one agree with the saying: "Forward to
death".
Heh. At least Kurt Cobain had a genius method of playing the guitar. And good
structure of a song. Yes, he didn't know how to play the guitar like Jerry, but
at least his music isn't like shit like Jerry's is (or was). There songs
(Grateful Dead) just plain suck. Has no catchy melody to it at all. And why did
you bring up suicide? I'm not saying Kurt was good for doing that, but that has
nothing to do with the topic. If he didn't commit suicide, then you'd have no
excuse. It's not like Jerry's was a nice death either. If you think Nirvana suck
so much, say that to Nirvana millions of fans. And if your thinking "hey..leave
me alone, that's my opinion" then why don't you do the same, asshole?
-Greta
>Someone Wrote:
>>>Jason, you're a fucking moron. How can even begin to compare Kurt
>>>Blowbrain to Jerry Garcia. Curt didn't have a clue on how to play
>
>Heh. At least Kurt Cobain had a genius method of playing the guitar. And good
Generally when people start off saying "At least...", they
basically agree with what the first person said, but give an argument
to make a point on another manner. But here, the first person said
that Kurt Cobain didn't have a clue how to play guitar, and you said
"At least he was a genius at playing guitar." Um, okay....just an
observation. Don't take it personally. =)
David
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I have to agree. Nirvana sucks. And why did he shoot himself anyway? He was
one of the biggest music stars and he killed himself.
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Kurt Cobain having a genius method of guitar playing. Even Nirvana fans have
to admit that playing 3 power chords is not genius. He did the same thing
bands like the Ramones did but writing meaningless lyrics. I don't like
Grateful Dead either but at least they could write better lyrics and play
guitar. Nirvana does suck. And I'll say it to any of their fans.
*sigh* I see you don't understand. 1st of all, I was talking about method, not
how good you could play guitar. What I meant is he could figure out riffs that
blended with each other and and sounded good. Unlike the Dead. (in MY opinion).
And before you said he was the most popular musician (or something like that) and
he killed himself. That's probaly why he did it. He talked about how he hated
being mainstream. And why the hell is this on alt.skate-board?
What moron made this thread? Try alt.spam
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um, kareem smokes weed
"experiencing the warm feeling that only comes from eight hundred casino
dollars in your pocket and a machine gun on your shoulder"
-natas kaupas
Almost as cool as you...You little JR high punk...Keep practicing your shitty
little curb ollies and shut up.
"Why are we always hangin out with the busted I3itches?" D.B.
p.s. I live in northwest us, so fuck you dickhead!
>Greta or Joe <pl...@ptdprolog.net> wrote:
>
>>Someone Wrote:
>>>>Jason, you're a fucking moron. How can even begin to compare Kurt
>>>>Blowbrain to Jerry Garcia. Curt didn't have a clue on how to play
>>
>>Heh. At least Kurt Cobain had a genius method of playing the guitar.
>
> Generally when people start off saying "At least...", they
>basically agree with what the first person said,
Not necessarily. One could also mean that despite your assertion
and negative perception, there is an assertion that you can't dispute.
>but give an argument
>to make a point on another manner.
Do you mean "...make a point on another *matter*"?
>But here, the first person said
>that Kurt Cobain didn't have a clue how to play guitar, and you said
>"At least he was a genius at playing guitar." Um, okay....just an
>observation. Don't take it personally. =)
I suppose one could say that person contradicted him/her/self
but it could still be valid if he/she added that even though
Cobain was only good at 3 chords or only knew 3 chords, he
was good at playing those chords as illustrated by the melodies
and sound in the songs etc. Just a thought.
Pete
On Mon, 19 Jan 1998 00:27:32 GMT, Greta or Joe <pl...@ptdprolog.net>
wrote:
>Someone Wrote:
>>>Jason, you're a fucking moron. How can even begin to compare Kurt
>>>Blowbrain to Jerry Garcia. Curt didn't have a clue on how to play
>>>guitar. Jerry was one of the most amazing, and influential guitaurists
>>>of the last three decades. The olny thing that Cobain influenced is
>>>more shit bands with no talent. All that his music consists of is three
>>>power chords played over and over again with some whining to accompany
>>>it, and he attemps to call it music.
>
>Heh. At least Kurt Cobain had a genius method of playing the guitar. And good
>structure of a song. Yes, he didn't know how to play the guitar like Jerry, but
>at least his music isn't like shit like Jerry's is (or was). There songs
>(Grateful Dead) just plain suck. Has no catchy melody to it at all. And why did
>you bring up suicide? I'm not saying Kurt was good for doing that, but that has
>nothing to do with the topic. If he didn't commit suicide, then you'd have no
>excuse. It's not like Jerry's was a nice death either. If you think Nirvana suck
>so much, say that to Nirvana millions of fans. And if your thinking "hey..leave
>me alone, that's my opinion" then why don't you do the same, asshole?
>
>-Greta
>
>
I don't know about you but I listen to music for the music. Not to see
somebody jump around on stage to avert peoples attention from the fact
that they have no musical talent. Cobain wasn't even original with his
stage acts... Toppling the amps, setting guitars on fire... It had been
done 25 years earlier by a man who could actually play guitar(damn
well) ... Jimi Hendrix!
> On Mon, 19 Jan 1998 00:27:32 GMT, Greta or Joe <pl...@ptdprolog.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Seth Wrote:
> >>>Jason, you're a fucking moron. How can even begin to compare Kurt
> >>>Blowbrain to Jerry Garcia. Curt didn't have a clue on how to play
> >>>guitar. Jerry was one of the most amazing, and influential guitaurists
> >>>of the last three decades. The olny thing that Cobain influenced is
> >>>more shit bands with no talent. All that his music consists of is three
> >>>power chords played over and over again with some whining to accompany
> >>>it, and he attemps to call it music.
> >
> >Heh. At least Kurt Cobain had a genius method of playing the guitar.
Could you please explain this genius method...
> >And good structure of a song.
intro-verse-chorus-verse-chorus-bridge-chorus-outro... That's about as
simple as song structure can get. Except most songs usually have a
guitar solo. Most of Nirvana's songs didn't have a solo for a good
reason... Kurt couldn't solo.
> >Yes, he didn't know how to play the guitar like Jerry,
I can't argue with you there
> >at least his music isn't like shit like Jerry's is (or was).
Shitty by whose standards?
> >There (sic)songs (Grateful Dead) just plain suck. Has no catchy melody to it at all.
Most of Beethoven's, Bach's, and Mozart's music don't have catchy
melodie, I suppose that means that they just plain suck. Right?
> >And why did you bring up suicide? I'm not saying Kurt was good for doing that, but that has nothing to do with the topic.
Good point I shouldn't have brought up suicide, I apologize.
> >If he didn't commit suicide, then you'd have no excuse.
No excuse for what?
> >It's not like Jerry's was a nice death either.
I never said it was.
> >If you think Nirvana suck so much, say that to Nirvana millions of fans.
Tell me a way that I can express my opinion to those millions of fans
and I'll do it... until then I think saying it on a nirvana news group
is as close as I'll get. By the way I never said that Nirvana
sucks (which they do) I was just talking about Kurt Cobain, mainly
comparing him to Jerry Garcia.
> >And if your thinking "hey..leave me alone, that's my opinion" then why don't you do the same, asshole? -Greta
Actually I'm not thinking "hey..leave me alone, that's my opinion". If
you want people to leave you alone then why are you posting to
newsgroups, which are public domain. And whats with all the name
calling. People start calling names when they don't have an arguement.
I'm looking foward to a response.
Sincerely,
Seth
I'm talking about both of these peoples music. And musically Kurt had
no clue. The only reason people liked nirvana was because of thier
image. There are many people who listen to greatful deads music and are
not dead-heads. (myself included) The fact of the matter is that a
generation of kids were looking for something to believe in, and nirvana
happened to be in the right place at the right time... With a lot of
media\MTV hype they didn't need musical talent. They could've been
rappin or singing country music for all that mattered. I'm not blasting
nirvana fans for liking the band, all I'm saying is that their music
isn't of the best to come around in the last century.
Sincerely,
Seth.
P.S.-Who are savatage?
ps. Screw you Tron, Canada kicks ass!
On Sun, 18 Jan 1998, Seth wrote:
> Jason, you're a fucking moron. How can even begin to compare Kurt
> Blowbrain to Jerry Garcia. Curt didn't have a clue on how to play
> guitar. Jerry was one of the most amazing, and influential guitaurists
> of the last three decades. The olny thing that Cobain influenced is
> more shit bands with no talent. All that his music consists of is three
> power chords played over and over again with some whining to accompany
> it, and he attemps to call it music.
>
> jason dexter graham wrote:
> >
> > JERRY'S DEAD KURT'S GONE WHO WILL LEAD US NOW?
> >
> > "experiencing the warm feeling that only comes from eight hundred casino
> > dollars in your pocket and a machine gun on your shoulder"
> > -natas kaupas
> >
> > On Sat, 17 Jan 1998, NathanDuMoulin wrote:
> >
> > > Kenneth R Sanders wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hey, what's your problem?
> > > > We're two skaters from Alaska. You know, the Northwest US. What's your
> > > > problem.
> > > >
> > > > PS- Kurt Cobain and Nirvana were cool.
> > > >
> > > > -Brad & Frank-
> > >
> > > As sorry as this sounds, i must for one agree with Tron although the guy
> > > had no argument. Kurt Cobain was a fuck up. He only made progress by
> > > letting people pity him for being descriminated as "alternative". He had
> > > nothing to say, no talent. He was simply a dumb, sorry for himself,
> > > heroin addict. I dont blame the guy for killing himself. he deserved it.
On Tue, 20 Jan 1998, it was written:
> Whatever. Jerry Garcia sucked. I mean, what a performer. He sat on a
> motherfucking stool for 2 hours. Yipee-Skipee.
>
> On Mon, 19 Jan 1998 00:27:32 GMT, Greta or Joe <pl...@ptdprolog.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Someone Wrote:
> >>>Jason, you're a fucking moron. How can even begin to compare Kurt
> >>>Blowbrain to Jerry Garcia. Curt didn't have a clue on how to play
> >>>guitar. Jerry was one of the most amazing, and influential guitaurists
> >>>of the last three decades. The olny thing that Cobain influenced is
> >>>more shit bands with no talent. All that his music consists of is three
> >>>power chords played over and over again with some whining to accompany
> >>>it, and he attemps to call it music.
> >
> >Heh. At least Kurt Cobain had a genius method of playing the guitar. And good
> >structure of a song. Yes, he didn't know how to play the guitar like Jerry, but
> >at least his music isn't like shit like Jerry's is (or was). There songs
> >(Grateful Dead) just plain suck. Has no catchy melody to it at all. And why did
> >you bring up suicide? I'm not saying Kurt was good for doing that, but that has
> >nothing to do with the topic. If he didn't commit suicide, then you'd have no
> >excuse. It's not like Jerry's was a nice death either. If you think Nirvana suck
> >so much, say that to Nirvana millions of fans. And if your thinking "hey..leave
Depending on who you talk too...
> You can't judge someone just by how they look or
>dress cuz that's messed up.
True... True
> You don't know what he was going thru or thinking
>that made him commit suicide. Some people's lives are fucked up and they just
>can't handle it.
Then how come he became this role model/hero to some... I overheard some kid
(10-11 years old) one day say "I wanna be like Kurt Cobain when I grow up"... I
was like... "Ok... lets go down to K-mart and pick up a Fisher Price, My first
syringe..."
> Kurt is and was beautiful. He was fucking hot
uh... no
>, he had a wonderful voice, and he wrote great music and lyrics.
Now... I have to disagree there... He started that whole monotone/suicidal/you
only need 5 minutes to write a song "phenomena"... Damn... am I glad thats
over...
> And you can't believe every fucking rumor you hear, cuz most of them ain't
true. I'm sick of people putting down Nirvana just because Kurt shot himself.
Nirvana was more than Kurt
>and together they made beautiful music.
Once again... his lyrics seemed like they were writen by a 4 year old...
> Until you know what it's like to hate
>your life every day and think about killing yourself or attempt to kill
>yourself, SHUT THE FUCK UP!
Alright... ALright... chill out... don't go put a shotgun to your head... geez
IMHO... everybody should drop thier shock rock and alternative b/c nothing
beats techno... I mean... "The future is now..." so you better get with it
before it leaves you in the dust
-DJ Swift
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The Prodigy is the bomb no matter what those underground purists say...
now the first one is understandable... its a nirvana NG. but the next
2... if you dont like nirvana, then why are you in here? unless you are
a bhuddast monk... and the last one... thats usually crosposted to 30
other newsgroups including: alt.sports.whiffle.ball,
alt.binaries.fisting.your.grandma and
alt.drugs.crack.pipe.marion.barry.crack.rock.homey.g.thug.gangstaz
so i was just wondering, why do people come in here to talk shit? there
must be some very violent, and insecure people in the world, if they
need to be stupid in somone else's newsgroup just to fight...
so anyway. my 2 cents
Kurt was great at guitar, and a great preformer. jerry was great at
guitar, but he was not a great preformer... they both had their
different styles of music. i mean, and teh symphony you dont see the
violinists moshing, and the timpani drummers headbanging do you? no.
thats their style :-)
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If you think that Kurdt Cobain is more well known than Jerry Garcia you
must be living on a different planent than I am... or at least on some
drugs more potent than either Kurdt or Jerry ever took (if that's
possible)
> On Sun, 18 Jan 1998, Seth wrote:
>
> > Jason, you're a fucking moron. How can even begin to compare Kurt
> > Blowbrain to Jerry Garcia. Curt didn't have a clue on how to play
> > guitar. Jerry was one of the most amazing, and influential guitaurists
> > of the last three decades. The olny thing that Cobain influenced is
> > more shit bands with no talent. All that his music consists of is three
> > power chords played over and over again with some whining to accompany
> > it, and he attemps to call it music.
> >
LECHERMOI wrote in message
<19980119203...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
>Dude, you are one fucked up son-of-a-bitch. Kurt was and always will be one
of
>the greatest musicians ever. You can't judge someone just by how they look
or
>dress cuz that's messed up. You don't know what he was going thru or
thinking
>that made him commit suicide. Some people's lives are fucked up and they
just
>can't handle it. Kurt is and was beautiful. He was fucking hot, he had a
>wonderful voice, and he wrote great music and lyrics. And you can't believe
>every fucking rumor you hear, cuz most of them ain't true. I'm sick of
people
>putting down Nirvana just because Kurt shot himself. Nirvana was more than
Kurt
>and together they made beautiful music. Until you know what it's like to
hate
>your life every day and think about killing yourself or attempt to kill
>yourself, SHUT THE FUCK UP!
>
>p.s. I live in northwest us, so fuck you dickhead!
Yeah man!!
HaSHeAd
-DJ Swift>>>>>
I have a friend who unfortunately listens to techno and all I have to say is "
I can't tech no more"
>Whatever. Jerry Garcia sucked. I mean, what a performer. He sat on a
>motherfucking stool for 2 hours. Yipee-Skipee.
And this is so much inferior to Kurt Cobain's practice of [mostly]
standing in one place for a couple of hours?
>In <34c4c48f...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>,
>da...@perle-co.com (David Perle, The Fool On the Hill) writes:
>
>>Greta or Joe <pl...@ptdprolog.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Someone Wrote:
>>>>>Jason, you're a fucking moron. How can even begin to compare Kurt
>>>>>Blowbrain to Jerry Garcia. Curt didn't have a clue on how to play
>>>
>>>Heh. At least Kurt Cobain had a genius method of playing the guitar.
>>
>> Generally when people start off saying "At least...", they
>>basically agree with what the first person said,
>
>Not necessarily. One could also mean that despite your assertion
>and negative perception, there is an assertion that you can't dispute.
I don't know, I stand behind what I said. This just doesn't sound
right:
Person A: Kurt Cobain didn't know how to play guitar.
Person B: At least Kurt Cobain was awesome at playing the guitar!
Call me crazy...
>>but give an argument
>>to make a point on another manner.
>
>Do you mean "...make a point on another *matter*"?
I don't remember. =)
>>But here, the first person said
>>that Kurt Cobain didn't have a clue how to play guitar, and you said
>>"At least he was a genius at playing guitar." Um, okay....just an
>>observation. Don't take it personally. =)
>
>I suppose one could say that person contradicted him/her/self
>but it could still be valid if he/she added that even though
>Cobain was only good at 3 chords or only knew 3 chords, he
>was good at playing those chords as illustrated by the melodies
>and sound in the songs etc. Just a thought.
Maybe. Perhaps if Greta had specifically said something along the
lines of "Well, he may not have known a lot of technical methods, he
was a genius at doing what he did with such few chords..." (And by
the way....since people are going to make fun of me for giving such a
shit about what Greta did or should have done, I'd like to say now
that I really don't care, I'm just going along with Pete for sake of
discussion.)
>Person A: Kurt Cobain didn't know how to play guitar.
>Person B: At least Kurt Cobain was awesome at playing the guitar!
>
> Call me crazy...
It is kind of a dumb statement, for sure. I was just trying to
play Devil's Advocate. :)
>>>to make a point on another manner.
>>
>>Do you mean "...make a point on another *matter*"?
>
> I don't remember. =)
But, it was quoted above. =)
>>I suppose one could say that person contradicted him/her/self
>>but it could still be valid if he/she added that even though
>>Cobain was only good at 3 chords or only knew 3 chords, he
>>was good at playing those chords as illustrated by the melodies
>>and sound in the songs etc. Just a thought.
>
> Maybe. Perhaps if Greta had specifically said something along the
>lines of "Well, he may not have known a lot of technical methods, he
>was a genius at doing what he did with such few chords..." (And by
>the way....since people are going to make fun of me for giving such a
>shit about what Greta did or should have done,
I think that would have to be implied for it to make any sort of
sense.
>I'd like to say now
>that I really don't care, I'm just going along with Pete for sake of
>discussion.)
I have no idea who 'Greta ..." is and don't remember any of the
posts from that person so I was just suggesting a case for
Cobain's guitar playing. I assume that real techies and serious
guitar players will mock or criticize his guitar playing so I just
suggested that extensive knowledge of playing wasn't *absolute*
(i.e. absolutely required) or "everything".
Pete
>>>>to make a point on another manner.
>>>
>>>Do you mean "...make a point on another *matter*"?
>>
>> I don't remember. =)
>
>But, it was quoted above. =)
Yeah, but there wasn't enough for me to figure out what I was
talking about.... Of course, I DO have the original note....let me
check. Okay, yeah, I guess I did mean "matter."
>I have no idea who 'Greta ..." is and don't remember any of the
She's the one whom I first replied to.