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Jeanette S.

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Jun 9, 2004, 10:01:50 AM6/9/04
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I heard on TV news (CBS) last night, that someone is lobbying to have
President Reagan's portrait placed on $10 or $20 bills or perhaps on the
10 cent coin. WHY! He was not a great president , rather a mediocore
one. In fact, I can't think of any great presidents.
There are a few modern day presidents whose silhouette has been put on
U.S. coins, Kennedy, Eisenhower, but no others. The presidents
following have either been mediocre or crooked or blood thirsty - has
everyone forgotten the Contra scandal and Ollie North? I was appalled
after Nixon was forced to step down from the presidency, after his
death, to hear that state, country and city offices would have a day of
remembrance for him and shut all offices down. These men are doing a
job - nothing spectacular - just their jobs., some better than others,
and some worse. Jeanette

Marian

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Jun 9, 2004, 1:46:02 PM6/9/04
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I agree. Sure hate to be in the position to have to boycott $10. or $20. bills,
or quarters...but I will, if this goes through.

Marian

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Gordon

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Jun 9, 2004, 2:58:57 PM6/9/04
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Marian <lust...@aol.com> wrote

>>
>>I heard on TV news (CBS) last night, that someone is lobbying to have
>>President Reagan's portrait placed on $10 or $20 bills or perhaps on the
>>10 cent coin. WHY! He was not a great president , rather a mediocore
>>one. In fact, I can't think of any great presidents.
>>There are a few modern day presidents whose silhouette has been put on
>>U.S. coins, Kennedy, Eisenhower, but no others. The presidents
>>following have either been mediocre or crooked or blood thirsty - has
>>everyone forgotten the Contra scandal and Ollie North? I was appalled
>>after Nixon was forced to step down from the presidency, after his
>>death, to hear that state, country and city offices would have a day of
>>remembrance for him and shut all offices down. These men are doing a
>>job - nothing spectacular - just their jobs., some better than others,
>>and some worse. Jeanette
>
>I agree. Sure hate to be in the position to have to boycott $10. or $20. bills,
>or quarters...but I will, if this goes through.
>
>Marian
>
I'll take 'em off you - the do$$ar is bound to recover eventually. ;-)
--
Gordon

Eugene Kent

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Jun 9, 2004, 5:49:59 PM6/9/04
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Hell the neo-cons have been trying for years to get Roosevelt's image off
the dime. Myself I believe that Reagan is just too cheap to be placed even
on the penny. But them as most people just toss the Lincoln penny in the
gutter, it would be no big loss.Hell maybe if that happened I would get me a
piggy bank with a ten pound hammer and every time I found a Reagan penny I
would drop the Regan penny in it and wham.

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Eugene Kent

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Jun 9, 2004, 5:52:20 PM6/9/04
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By the way Gordon, how did your election turn out. I read in some news
article that they are investigating the mail-in-votes for irregularities.


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Gordon

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Jun 9, 2004, 6:53:30 PM6/9/04
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Eugene Kent <eugen...@fuse.net> wrote

>By the way Gordon, how did your election turn out. I read in some news
>article that they are investigating the mail-in-votes for irregularities.
>
Poling day is Thursday, and there are allegations which will need
investigation, but they are claiming a much increased 'turn out'.
I'm not happy with compulsory postal voting, I prefer the ballot box,
which is secret. Anything can happen to an envelope.

It will be interesting which side gains from the increased vote, but the
4 pilot schemes were all in Labour strongholds, which is suspicious, and
the other parties will play the irregularity card if there are any close
calls in the results.
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Gordon

JMR

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Jun 9, 2004, 7:34:21 PM6/9/04
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This morning we have been suffereing a blow by blow description of the
late Ronald Reagan's progress.
A comment from a friend "What a miserable waste of resources...".

jingles

Joan F (MI)

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Jun 9, 2004, 8:07:56 PM6/9/04
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Yes, it's on every channel here. Boring. I just don't understand why
people would stand in line for hours to walk by a casket. It isn't even
open, I could understand a bit of curiosity if you could actually see him
but all you see is the casket, it could be empty for all you know.

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Eugene Kent

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Jun 9, 2004, 8:30:42 PM6/9/04
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Did you notice that this person wasn't on a caisson with his boots following
with his charger tethered behind him. They say he was great but didn't seem
to have been great enough to be given a warrior's death parade. J.F Kennedy
received that.

"Joan F (MI)" <jjf...@removethisameritech.net> wrote in message
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Olly Mensch

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Jun 9, 2004, 8:56:38 PM6/9/04
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Jingles - no one forces you to listen to teh "blow by blow" description
of the Reagan years.
Olly

Olly Mensch

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Jun 9, 2004, 8:59:12 PM6/9/04
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Joan - did it occur to you that it is "respect" which makes people stand
silently by the coffin. If this is not your way - or mine- why
criticize those who do?? It is simp;ly a respectful gesture.
Olly

Joan F (MI)

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Jun 9, 2004, 9:04:41 PM6/9/04
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Well, I think all pomp and circumstance is silly and I have a right to my
opinion. People who stand in line for five hours to walk by a casket are
weird in my book.

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Olly Mensch <Old...@webtv.net> stated

Lloyd Lewellen

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Jun 9, 2004, 9:39:57 PM6/9/04
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"Marian" <lust...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >
> >I heard on TV news (CBS) last night, that someone is lobbying to have
> >President Reagan's portrait placed on $10 or $20 bills or perhaps on the
> >10 cent coin. WHY! He was not a great president , rather a mediocore
> >one. In fact, I can't think of any great presidents.
> >There are a few modern day presidents whose silhouette has been put on
> >U.S. coins, Kennedy, Eisenhower, but no others. The presidents
> >following have either been mediocre or crooked or blood thirsty - has
> >everyone forgotten the Contra scandal and Ollie North? I was appalled
> >after Nixon was forced to step down from the presidency, after his
> >death, to hear that state, country and city offices would have a day of
> >remembrance for him and shut all offices down. These men are doing a
> >job - nothing spectacular - just their jobs., some better than others,
> >and some worse. Jeanette
>
> I agree. Sure hate to be in the position to have to boycott $10. or $20.
bills,
> or quarters...but I will, if this goes through.
>
> Marian

You have got to be kidding, Marian! I would accept money with a monkey
face on it if it were legal tender. If it disgusts you that much, just send
all your 20's to the Republicans. They will know what to do with it. <tg>

Lloyd

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JMR

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Jun 10, 2004, 1:49:07 AM6/10/04
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On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 20:56:38 -0400, Old...@webtv.net (Olly Mensch)
wrote:

>Jingles - no one forces you to listen to teh "blow by blow" description
>of the Reagan years.
>Olly


I'm afraid you misunderstood my comment. I was referring to his
'funeral' progress which is dominating our television sets at the
present time....
It is difficult to avoid it if you want to see the current news
coverage.
I am quite familiar with his career as I used to go to the movies
qjite a lot....I also read the papers so I know of his political
career ....

jingles

Gordon

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Jun 10, 2004, 1:52:42 AM6/10/04
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Joan F (MI) <jjf...@removethisameritech.net> wrote

>Well, I think all pomp and circumstance is silly and I have a right to my


>opinion. People who stand in line for five hours to walk by a casket are
>weird in my book.
>

If anyone walks by my open coffin after I die I shall sit up suddenly
and shout "BOOOO"!

The word 'ghouls' springs to mind. It impresses me more when people
come to see me while I am alive!
--
Gordon

Gordon

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Jun 10, 2004, 1:55:17 AM6/10/04
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Anne Jackson <amyg...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote
>
>I wouldn't even bother to reply to Ollie's posts if I was you, Joan.
>And as for "respect" she wouldn't recognise a respectful gesture if
>someone hit her between the eyes with one!
>
>Can you honestly imagine this old harriden as a psychologist?
>I certainly can't!
>
I cannot let you get away with that incorrect remark, Anne!

It's "Harridan".
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Gordon

Gordon

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Jun 10, 2004, 1:58:13 AM6/10/04
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Olly Mensch <Old...@webtv.net> wrote

>Jingles - no one forces you to listen to teh "blow by blow" description
>of the Reagan years.
>Olly
>
No one forces us to read your posts, but (G*d help us) - most of us do!

(Sorry peeps, but I am happy to exchange insults with anyone who makes a
hobby of it). :-)
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Gordon

Andy in Fink

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Jun 10, 2004, 5:24:59 AM6/10/04
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"JMR" <momm...@mail.com> wrote in message > This morning we have been

suffereing a blow by blow description of the
> late Ronald Reagan's progress.
> A comment from a friend "What a miserable waste of resources...".
>
> jingles

I can't imagine why it would be of significant newsworthiness in
Australia. It's pretty big in America, but I suppose it is the only thing
happening this week, so the news networks can re-broadcast it for
free, and still get their advertising revenue.

Well, you have my sympathy. Personally, I think these things could
be wrapped up in a day or two. We have been watching it all week.

Much as I like the Reagans, seeing every detail about their life,
over and over, day after day - same details , mind you -- make them
seem like visiting relatives. I was glad to see them again, and I'll
be glad when they leave (grin).

Andy in Fink, Texas


Andy in Fink

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Jun 10, 2004, 5:27:24 AM6/10/04
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"Gordon" <Gor...@g3snx.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> >
> If anyone walks by my open coffin after I die I shall sit up suddenly
> and shout "BOOOO"!
>
> The word 'ghouls' springs to mind. It impresses me more when people
> come to see me while I am alive!
> --
> Gordon


I think I'd like to have a little motor that makes me sit up occasionally
and
have a little speaker in my mouth that says things like :

" Hi. Glad to see you. Don't I look like myself ?? "

Andy in Fink, Texas


Andy in Fink

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Jun 10, 2004, 5:28:44 AM6/10/04
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"Gordon" <Gor...@g3snx.demon.co.uk> wrote in message >

> (Sorry peeps, but I am happy to exchange insults with anyone who makes a


> hobby of it). :-)
> --
> Gordon

Ok, Gordon...... I think you are too fat !!!!

Andy :>)))))


Joan F (MI)

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Jun 10, 2004, 9:27:36 AM6/10/04
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We don't even do funerals in my family. When my father died my mother had
him cremated immediately and kept the ashes in a box in the closet in the
spare bedroom for years. Last year when my brother moved her into a nursing
home near him he took possession of the ashes, not sure what he has done
with them, will likely save them and mix with Mom's when the time comes and
put them somewhere together.

In news:SfBscUAqc$xAF...@g3snx.demon.co.uk,
Gordon <Gor...@g3snx.demon.co.uk> stated

Joan F (MI)

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Jun 10, 2004, 9:28:35 AM6/10/04
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It's like a train wreck, horrifying but you can't look away.

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Gordon <Gor...@g3snx.demon.co.uk> stated

Jeanette S.

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Jun 10, 2004, 10:43:22 AM6/10/04
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jingles wrote: This morning we have been suffereing a blow by blow

description of the late Ronald Reagan's progress.
A comment from a friend   "What a miserable waste of resources...".
************************************************
Too true. I haven't figured out why yet - because he was the oldest
president; because he was a star of Class B motion pictures; or is the
prase devouted to "poorNancy" who so valiantl`y stood by her side.
There seems to be nothing spectacular that he did as a president, to me.
Unless one counts the Ollie North scandal! Jeanette

Jeanette S.

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Jun 10, 2004, 10:46:11 AM6/10/04
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Gene wrote: Did you notice that this person wasn't on a caisson with

his boots following with his charger tethered behind him. They say he
was great but didn't seem to have been great enough to be given a
warrior's death parade. J.F Kennedy received that.
************************************************
I watched bits of it and it seems the "charger" was a bit frisky and
cantankerous and had to be taken away - wasn't used to crowds or
something. So it was on the sidelines.Jeanette

Jeanette S.

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Jun 10, 2004, 10:52:52 AM6/10/04
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Goron wrote: If anyone walks by my open coffin after I die I shall sit

up suddenly and shout "BOOOO"!
The word 'ghouls' springs to mind.   It impresses me more when people
come to see me while I am alive!
--
to which Andy responded:
I think I'd like to have a little motor that makes me sit up
occasionally and
have a little speaker in my mouth that says things like :
" Hi. Glad to see you. Don't I look like myself ??
"**********************************************
or Who are you - I've never seen you before - GET OUT! Seriously I've
left instructions that my csket be closed - I can't stand the thought of
people viewing me when I'm not watching! Of course, whether that
happens, I'll never know. My children are too traditional or onery, to
follow my instructions. Jeanette

Norma

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Jun 10, 2004, 11:19:48 AM6/10/04
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"Jeanette S." <jenah...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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How can we forget the Ollie North scandal. I remember the visions I had of
his secretary, Dawn ??, shredding all those documents. We never will know
that whole story. Belive me I don't watch him on FOX news.

But what will Nancy do now? Norma


Gordon

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Jun 10, 2004, 2:06:56 PM6/10/04
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Joan F (MI) <jjf...@removethisameritech.net> wrote
>We don't even do funerals in my family. When my father died my mother had
>him cremated immediately and kept the ashes in a box in the closet in the
>spare bedroom for years. Last year when my brother moved her into a nursing
>home near him he took possession of the ashes, not sure what he has done
>with them, will likely save them and mix with Mom's when the time comes and
>put them somewhere together.
>
My wife's ashes were scattered around a war memorial which I could see
from this house until they built some 3 storey dwellings across the
park. :-(

It is on a hill where I walk regularly for exercise, as we used to walk
together and with a dog. Full of memories, and I get fit when I go to
visit, rather than getting depressed in a cemetery.
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Gordon

Gordon

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Jun 10, 2004, 2:09:34 PM6/10/04
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Andy in Fink <jungl...@hotmail.com> wrote

>
>"Gordon" <Gor...@g3snx.demon.co.uk> wrote in message >
>
>> (Sorry peeps, but I am happy to exchange insults with anyone who makes a
>> hobby of it). :-)
>>
>
>Ok, Gordon...... I think you are too fat !!!!
>
> Andy :>)))))

Yeaah I know, I'm 154 lbs and 5-8, I'll jest hev to do something about
it.

At least I won't blow away in a light breeze like you - you skinny
wretch!
--
Gordon

Gordon

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Jun 10, 2004, 2:10:24 PM6/10/04
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Joan F (MI) <jjf...@removethisameritech.net> wrote
>It's like a train wreck, horrifying but you can't look away.
>
:-)
--
Gordon

Gordon

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Jun 10, 2004, 2:11:53 PM6/10/04
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Jeanette S. <jenah...@hotmail.com> wrote
What about the Iran Contra scandal, whatever it was. I heard a
commentator say the he should have been impeached over it.
I'll have to Google for it!
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Gordon

Gordon

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Jun 10, 2004, 2:13:14 PM6/10/04
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Norma <norm...@charter.net> wrote

>
>But what will Nancy do now? Norma
>
Marry a Greek shipping typhoon?

Sorry - I meant "tycoon...."
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Gordon

Joan F (MI)

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Jun 10, 2004, 4:31:58 PM6/10/04
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Regardless, she won't have to get by on her Social Security.


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JMR

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Jun 10, 2004, 7:59:54 PM6/10/04
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An interesting comment made on TV. He and Nancy planned his funeral a
long time ago and he even chose his favourite song to be played. It
appears that he planned a big send-off.
Could this be the movie-star in him? <grin>

jingles (ducking for cover)

JMR

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Jun 10, 2004, 8:02:40 PM6/10/04
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On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 09:43:22 -0500, jenah...@hotmail.com (Jeanette
S.) wrote:


Did anybody notice that Margaret Thatcher gave a curtsey to the
coffin....I thought that was quite unnecessary....

jingles

Olly Mensch

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Jun 10, 2004, 9:43:49 PM6/10/04
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AnneJ - I would not dignify your vile attack upon me with a response.
I would have a ball psychoanalyzing your personality!
Olly

Olly Mensch

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Jun 10, 2004, 9:51:33 PM6/10/04
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AnneJ - I shudder to think what your present or former profession is,
since you are so filled with vitriol that it has to stem from someplace
deep inside you.
Besides, your English is faulty. You wrote: I wouldn't even bother to
respond to Olly if I WAS you." It should be:"if I WERE you."
When are you going to drop your personal animosity toward me? My post
to Joan was innocent enough, in describing the concept of respect. which
you then felt obligated to pick up, twist it around, in order to insult
me. What is bothering you???
Olly

Olly Mensch

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Jun 10, 2004, 10:01:32 PM6/10/04
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Andy - I completely agree with you, in that there has been far too much
concentration on the Reagan's; it gets tiresome after a while. But
there is a difference between that and some of the insulting comments
which have been floating around,made by others. and, if so many of the
world leaders decide to attend the ceremolnies,then I feel it would be
more respectful for some of the posters to at least not express such
disdain, and resort to personally insult me, as for instance AnneJ did,
(with support from Gordon of course) by saying something about respect,
and that I wouldn't know it, and making some ugly references about my
past profession. She sounds positively sick. What a shame, when this
could be a delightful group.===Olly

Gordon

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Jun 10, 2004, 5:51:10 PM6/10/04
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Joan F (MI) <jjf...@removethisameritech.net> wrote
>Regardless, she won't have to get by on her Social Security.
>
There was a quite sympathetic portrait of Reagan tonight on BBC TV.
It's general tone was that, well, he was a likeable character, he
managed to get on with people, especially Gorbachov.

Therein lies the difference between Reagan and Bush's 'bull in a China
shop' approach to international relationships.

The program did criticise him for the Iran / Contra affair, which it
classed as a crime. Nancy was criticised for having too much
influence on his government decisions, eg, being responsible for
fingering a fall guy in the Contra affair.
--
Gordon

Gordon

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Jun 11, 2004, 3:49:14 AM6/11/04
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Olly Mensch <Old...@webtv.net> wrote

>AnneJ - I shudder to think what your present or former profession is,
>since you are so filled with vitriol that it has to stem from someplace
>deep inside you.
>Besides, your English is faulty. You wrote: I wouldn't even bother to
>respond to Olly if I WAS you." It should be:"if I WERE you."

You are out of date my dear, I understand that it is acceptable to use
either form nowadays in that conditional context.....
--
Gordon

Gordon

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Jun 11, 2004, 3:50:21 AM6/11/04
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Olly Mensch <Old...@webtv.net> wrote

>Andy - I completely agree with you, in that there has been far too much
>concentration on the Reagan's; it gets tiresome after a while. But
>there is a difference between that and some of the insulting comments
>which have been floating around,made by others. and, if so many of the
>world leaders decide to attend the ceremolnies,then I feel it would be
>more respectful for some of the posters to at least not express such
>disdain, and resort to personally insult me, as for instance AnneJ did,
>(with support from Gordon of course)

Good ole Gordon, eh?
--
Gordon

Gordon

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Jun 11, 2004, 3:52:21 AM6/11/04
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JMR <momm...@mail.com> wrote

>
>Did anybody notice that Margaret Thatcher gave a curtsey to the
>coffin....I thought that was quite unnecessary....
>
Quite! Roy Rogers was King of the Cowboys, not Ronald Reagan.

Maggie and Reagan used to fancy each other, anyway..... ;-)
--
Gordon

Olly Mensch

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Jun 11, 2004, 8:28:41 AM6/11/04
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Norma - you posed the question: but what will Nancy do now?
If her health prevails, she will work for stem cell research, and
perhaps be busy in the Reagan library; there are many causes she can use
to fill her days.
Olly

Olly Mensch

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Jun 11, 2004, 8:33:36 AM6/11/04
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Gordon - you are mistaken - "my dear".
Look it up!---Olly

Gordon

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Jun 11, 2004, 9:19:30 AM6/11/04
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Olly Mensch <Old...@webtv.net> wrote

>Gordon - you are mistaken - "my dear".
>Look it up!---Olly
>
If I was you, I'd just forget it....
--
Gordon

Jeanette S.

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Jun 11, 2004, 11:01:10 AM6/11/04
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Norma wrote: How can we forget the Ollie North scandal. I remember the

visions I had of his secretary, Dawn ??, shredding all those documents.
We never will know that whole story. Belive me I don't watch him on FOX
news.
But what will Nancy do now?
******************************************
I feel sorry for Nancy now, but she will while away her time without
great hardship or money problems, which doesn't happn to most people.
My beloved uncle died recently at the age of 93 from Alzheimers. My
aunt seems to be at peace now. For ten years she took care of him at
home, but didn't have adequate help 24 hours a day so he went into a
care home for Alzheimers patients. At the funeral, I mentioned that
his suffering was now over - her response was he didn't suffer as he
didn't know anyone and didn't know what was going on with him. He was
a mild gentle man, so never developed the mean streak as some A patients
do. He called for his wife constantly even when she was by his side.
She went daily for almst a year to feed him as he wouldn't eat for
anyone else. Then the last six months or so he wouldn't even eat for
her and called her name constantly even when she was by his side. It's
a good thing for the spouses, I believe, when the loved one passes on.
They are now at rest and one doesn't have to worry about them getting
out and becoming lost. Jeanette

Jeanette S.

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Jun 11, 2004, 11:08:03 AM6/11/04
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Olly wrote to AnneJ.: What is bothering you???
************************************************
Look in the mirror, Olly. It's your insults and hypercritical remarks
to anyone who dares to disagree with you. (I just have to respond
sometimes. Can't help myself.) Jeanette

Andy

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Jun 15, 2004, 12:05:19 PM6/15/04
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Gordon <Gor...@g3snx.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:<Vq$9xHBeP...@g3snx.demon.co.uk>...

Ah, would that were true !!!! On the good side, I seem to
have my anorexia under control !!!!

Andy

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