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Prairie Dove
Jun 11, 2017, 6:52:41 PM6/11/17
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Looks as if the Scepter'd Isle will be spared the cloddish footfalls of our origami-haired orange buffoon.
Sunday 11 June 2017 - "Donald Trump has told Theresa May in a phone call he does not want to go ahead with a state visit to Britain until the British public supports him coming.
The US president said he did not want to come if there were large-scale protests and his remarks in effect put the visit on hold for some time....."
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/11/donald-trump-state-visit-to-britain-put-on-hold
Well, if he won't go to Great Britain because he's afraid of protests, I guess he'll never go. Sad.
Sunday 11 June 2017 - "Donald Trump has told Theresa May in a phone call he does not want to go ahead with a state visit to Britain until the British public supports him coming.
The US president said he did not want to come if there were large-scale protests and his remarks in effect put the visit on hold for some time....."
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/11/donald-trump-state-visit-to-britain-put-on-hold
Well, if he won't go to Great Britain because he's afraid of protests, I guess he'll never go. Sad.
Fran
Jun 12, 2017, 3:41:17 AM6/12/17
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On 12/06/2017 8:52 AM, Prairie Dove wrote:
> Looks as if the Scepter'd Isle will be spared the cloddish footfalls of our origami-haired orange buffoon.
>
> Sunday 11 June 2017 - "Donald Trump has told Theresa May in a phone call he does not want to go ahead with a state visit to Britain until the British public supports him coming.
>
> The US president said he did not want to come if there were large-scale protests and his remarks in effect put the visit on hold for some time....."
:-))
> Looks as if the Scepter'd Isle will be spared the cloddish footfalls of our origami-haired orange buffoon.
>
> Sunday 11 June 2017 - "Donald Trump has told Theresa May in a phone call he does not want to go ahead with a state visit to Britain until the British public supports him coming.
>
> The US president said he did not want to come if there were large-scale protests and his remarks in effect put the visit on hold for some time....."
The Welsh Windbag
Jun 12, 2017, 6:42:55 AM6/12/17
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mixed nuts
Jun 12, 2017, 9:52:12 AM6/12/17
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Rover in lieu of the the state dinner and bill him for his stay - and
charge extra for any snacks he may consume.
--
Grizzly H.
Prairie Dove
Jun 28, 2017, 4:50:31 AM6/28/17
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Oh I miss you Monty Python, yet we Yanks are still having fun with covfefe:
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/christinerousselle/2017/06/27/covfefe-license-plates-banned-in-georgia-n2347290
"Trump's 'Covfefe' Is Now on a License Plate in California"
Lyndon
Jun 28, 2017, 6:26:35 AM6/28/17
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On Wednesday, 28 June 2017 09:50:31 UTC+1, Prairie Dove wrote:
> "Trump's 'Covfefe' Is Now on a License Plate in California"
I have three theories as to what Covfefe means, and I haven't seen any of them put forward over here.
> "Trump's 'Covfefe' Is Now on a License Plate in California"
1. Trump suffers from what all we oldies suffer from - the ability to hit a key next to the one we intend. I've tried decoding Covfefe on the assumption that any or all of the keys are neighbours of the intended, and failed.
So the first letter could be cxdf or v
The second could be oikl90 or p
The third could be vcfgb or space, and so on.
2. My second theory is that Trump fell asleep, and a cat ran over the keyboard while be was asleep.
3. My main theory though is based on the assumption that Trump has dyslexia, which I believe to be the case. The particular form of dyslexia which I think he may have means that he has no sight vocabulary. He is entirely dependant on phonics. So when reading, he has to struggle with every single word. So he can read, but it is slow, and error prone. When he gets to the end of a sentence, he has used so much energy in figuring out what each word says, that he can't remember what the sentence actually says. Error checkers are remarkably good at picking up these errors in written work, but clearly failed with 'covfefe'.
On this basis, I believe that the intended word may have been 'kerfuffle'.
mixed nuts
Jun 28, 2017, 7:22:29 AM6/28/17
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fluent in most of the world's languages. Covfefe is a term used by
neolithic proto-akkadians to describe the process of clearing a cave
before retiring for the night. In essence, it means "chuck a rock in
there to see if there's a bear in there".
--
Grizzly H.
Prairie Dove
Jun 29, 2017, 7:43:36 AM6/29/17
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Many people think he is either illiterate, dyslexic, or lazy - how about all three? I do agree with your form-of-dyslexia theory. It fits right in with a newsweek.com article I just read.
"Almost every day at about 10:30 a.m., President Donald Trump sits with the heads of the intelligence community and a fresh Diet Coke to discuss some of the world's most highly classified information in the Oval Office. He prefers "killer graphics," like pictures, videos and charts, and often interrupts the meeting with questions and unrelated asides, according to CIA Director Mike Pompeo and National Intelligence Director Daniel Coats.
The president also favors tiny "nuggets" of intelligence that pop out at him during his daily briefings, and information that can be boiled down to a single page....."
Just think, the dangers of the entire world, from Syria to North Korea, "boiled down to a single page" with easy to read "pictures, circles and arrows."*
The man is trying to run a country using the telephone and Twitter.
I am troubled about his claim to never read books, except the ones he writes ... which, haha, we all know were written by ghostwriters working from tape recorders.
The man cannot spell simple words, even with spellcheck "Honor" becomes "honer" "Unprecedented" became "unpresidented" ... a common failing of people with dyslexia. Everyone can easily distinguish between tweets written by Trump and those written by his staff.
When he goes off the Teleprompter and speaks off the cuff, he rambles along in incomplete sentences, jumping from one subject to the next, and always, always, brings the conversation back to himself ... no matter if he's speaking to the grieving families of our war dead.
You know, prior to this election, if a president I didn't like was elected, it didn't really matter all that much, because I trusted the system. I was never afraid that our new leader was going to drive the country over a cliff - I believed that "checks and balances" would always save us. If the President went too far in one direction, sensible heads and voices in Congress and the Supreme Court would correct our course.
All that changed with Trump. This man has made a shambles of our political system, and I worry every day that he will absolutely drive us over a cliff out of sheer stubborn ignorance and refusal to listen to anyone else, because he knows it all. The ugliest American of them all ... a greedy, narcissistic, un-patriotic grifter... absolutely the worst president we've ever had.
I would love to be able to hop into a time machine and read what future historians will say about this era.
* "Alice's Restaurant" popped into my head
Lonesome Dove
Jun 29, 2017, 8:09:13 AM6/29/17
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class at the Wharton School of Finance by looking at pictures? You
must have him mixed up with Obama.
Disposing of bullshit
one pile at a time
Lonesome Dove
mixed nuts
Jun 29, 2017, 9:14:13 AM6/29/17
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year at Wharton. He has, of course, refused to make his transcripts
available so it's not clear if he ever made it out of the bottom 10%.
http://dparchives.library.upenn.edu/cgi-bin/pennsylvania?a=d&d=tdp19681025-01.2.27
His grades at Fordham were too low to qualify for a transfer to UPenn
but once the admissions office was made aware that his daddy and big
brother were wealthy and might be "helpful" in the university's search
for financial well-being, adjustments were made.
--
Grizzly H.
Lonesome Dove
Jun 29, 2017, 9:52:50 AM6/29/17
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mixed nuts
Jun 29, 2017, 12:32:07 PM6/29/17
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because he's sensitive and very humble and didn't want the extra
attention because it might make less geniouser people feel bad?
Fran
Jun 29, 2017, 8:42:46 PM6/29/17
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On 28/06/2017 8:26 PM, Lyndon wrote:
> 3. My main theory though is based on the assumption that Trump has dyslexia, which I believe to be the case. The particular form of dyslexia which I think he may have means that he has no sight vocabulary. He is entirely dependant on phonics. So when reading, he has to struggle with every single word. So he can read, but it is slow, and error prone. When he gets to the end of a sentence, he has used so much energy in figuring out what each word says, that he can't remember what the sentence actually says. Error checkers are remarkably good at picking up these errors in written work, but clearly failed with 'covfefe'.
LOL. Tat description certainly sounds like a good fit for how he operates.
> 3. My main theory though is based on the assumption that Trump has dyslexia, which I believe to be the case. The particular form of dyslexia which I think he may have means that he has no sight vocabulary. He is entirely dependant on phonics. So when reading, he has to struggle with every single word. So he can read, but it is slow, and error prone. When he gets to the end of a sentence, he has used so much energy in figuring out what each word says, that he can't remember what the sentence actually says. Error checkers are remarkably good at picking up these errors in written work, but clearly failed with 'covfefe'.
> On this basis, I believe that the intended word may have been 'kerfuffle'.
Fran
Jun 29, 2017, 8:48:18 PM6/29/17
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On 29/06/2017 9:43 PM, Prairie Dove wrote:
> "Almost every day at about 10:30 a.m., President Donald Trump sits with the heads of the intelligence community and a fresh Diet Coke to discuss some of the world's most highly classified information in the Oval Office. He prefers "killer graphics," like pictures, videos and charts, and often interrupts the meeting with questions and unrelated asides, according to CIA Director Mike Pompeo and National Intelligence Director Daniel Coats.
OMG! That is scary.
> "Almost every day at about 10:30 a.m., President Donald Trump sits with the heads of the intelligence community and a fresh Diet Coke to discuss some of the world's most highly classified information in the Oval Office. He prefers "killer graphics," like pictures, videos and charts, and often interrupts the meeting with questions and unrelated asides, according to CIA Director Mike Pompeo and National Intelligence Director Daniel Coats.
>
> The president also favors tiny "nuggets" of intelligence that pop out at him during his daily briefings, and information that can be boiled down to a single page....."
>
> Just think, the dangers of the entire world, from Syria to North Korea, "boiled down to a single page" with easy to read "pictures, circles and arrows."*
ie, Cartoons.
> The president also favors tiny "nuggets" of intelligence that pop out at him during his daily briefings, and information that can be boiled down to a single page....."
>
> Just think, the dangers of the entire world, from Syria to North Korea, "boiled down to a single page" with easy to read "pictures, circles and arrows."*
>
> The man is trying to run a country using the telephone and Twitter.
>
> I am troubled about his claim to never read books, except the ones he writes ... which, haha, we all know were written by ghostwriters working from tape recorders.
>
> The man cannot spell simple words, even with spellcheck "Honor" becomes "honer" "Unprecedented" became "unpresidented" ... a common failing of people with dyslexia. Everyone can easily distinguish between tweets written by Trump and those written by his staff.
>
> When he goes off the Teleprompter and speaks off the cuff, he rambles along in incomplete sentences, jumping from one subject to the next, and always, always, brings the conversation back to himself ... no matter if he's speaking to the grieving families of our war dead.
>
> You know, prior to this election, if a president I didn't like was elected, it didn't really matter all that much, because I trusted the system. I was never afraid that our new leader was going to drive the country over a cliff - I believed that "checks and balances" would always save us. If the President went too far in one direction, sensible heads and voices in Congress and the Supreme Court would correct our course.
>
> All that changed with Trump. This man has made a shambles of our political system, and I worry every day that he will absolutely drive us over a cliff out of sheer stubborn ignorance and refusal to listen to anyone else, because he knows it all. The ugliest American of them all ... a greedy, narcissistic, un-patriotic grifter... absolutely the worst president we've ever had.
He's already done damage to brand USA outside his country. In the lead
> The man is trying to run a country using the telephone and Twitter.
>
> I am troubled about his claim to never read books, except the ones he writes ... which, haha, we all know were written by ghostwriters working from tape recorders.
>
> The man cannot spell simple words, even with spellcheck "Honor" becomes "honer" "Unprecedented" became "unpresidented" ... a common failing of people with dyslexia. Everyone can easily distinguish between tweets written by Trump and those written by his staff.
>
> When he goes off the Teleprompter and speaks off the cuff, he rambles along in incomplete sentences, jumping from one subject to the next, and always, always, brings the conversation back to himself ... no matter if he's speaking to the grieving families of our war dead.
>
> You know, prior to this election, if a president I didn't like was elected, it didn't really matter all that much, because I trusted the system. I was never afraid that our new leader was going to drive the country over a cliff - I believed that "checks and balances" would always save us. If the President went too far in one direction, sensible heads and voices in Congress and the Supreme Court would correct our course.
>
> All that changed with Trump. This man has made a shambles of our political system, and I worry every day that he will absolutely drive us over a cliff out of sheer stubborn ignorance and refusal to listen to anyone else, because he knows it all. The ugliest American of them all ... a greedy, narcissistic, un-patriotic grifter... absolutely the worst president we've ever had.
up to the election every political commentator in our country was saying
that he wouldn't get in as the US wouldn't be stupid enough to elect
him. We got the answer and it's not good.
Fran
Jun 29, 2017, 9:03:08 PM6/29/17
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those those people who voted in a sexual predator who's ignorant, who's
a liar, who is rude and crass and....
You think Trump graduated number one in his
> class at the Wharton School of Finance by looking at pictures?
generous donation to build something...............
You
> must have him mixed up with Obama.
donations to help HIS son get any qualifications.
> Disposing of bullshit
> one pile at a time
bullshit that Trump piles up with every tweet and ignorant utterance.
> Lonesome Dove
>
Fran
Jun 29, 2017, 9:16:19 PM6/29/17
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history too. I did a google and found this:
https://apnews.com/76a383d1b6e443a99831bf85a6d6cf3e/trump-and-wharton-complicated-relationship
"And if you assumed his degree was an MBA, you’d be wrong. Trump holds a
bachelor of science degree in economics from Wharton, earned after
transferring in as a junior from Fordham University. Several early Trump
profiles, including a 1973 New York Times piece, stated that he
graduated first in his class at Wharton, but that has since been
disputed. A 1968 commencement program does not list his name among
students who graduated with honors."
And further down the article:
"In the Penn ’68 yearbook, Trump’s name appears on a list of “students
not photographed.” He went home to New York City most weekends, skipping
study groups other students attended, according to his Wharton ’68
classmate Lou Calomaris.
“He wasn’t going to have to study a lot. He was going to get a
gentleman’s degree,” said Calomaris, who, like Trump, was one of a
handful of students who concentrated on real estate.
Wharton officials declined to make their dean, Geoffrey Garrett, or any
professors available to talk about Trump. “We have no info,” said
Wharton media relations director Peter Winicov in one email. Trump’s
campaign did not make him available for an interview for this story.
Junior Corey Stern, who wrote a story about Trump’s connections to the
school for The Daily Pennsylvanian, said that Penn’s administration
“refused to comment in any capacity, even to say that he was a graduate
or served on a board.” "
The Welsh Windbag
Jun 30, 2017, 7:49:48 AM6/30/17
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On Friday, 30 June 2017 02:16:19 UTC+1, Fran wrote:
> > http://dparchives.library.upenn.edu/cgi-bin/pennsylvania?
> > http://dparchives.library.upenn.edu/cgi-bin/pennsylvania?
> Junior Corey Stern, who wrote a story about Trump’s connections to the
> school for The Daily Pennsylvanian, said that Penn’s administration
> “refused to comment in any capacity, even to say that he was a graduate
> or served on a board.” "
Part of me can understand why they would not want to get involved. However, if a doctor, lawyer, engineer, college lecturer or anybody else puts a qualification on a CV it can be checked, and the consequences for lying can be severe. I suppose it doesn't matter if the application is for the post of POTUS. They can claim what they like. After all, a doctor who is not qualified as he claims to be might actually kill somebody. What is the worst thing that a POTUS can do?
> school for The Daily Pennsylvanian, said that Penn’s administration
> “refused to comment in any capacity, even to say that he was a graduate
> or served on a board.” "
Fran
Jun 30, 2017, 8:19:57 AM6/30/17
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For eg, North Korea has changed its Constitution to make proclamations
about being a nuclear nation. That is quite dangerous enough without
someone as unstable and impetuous as Trump in the WH.
Joy
Jun 30, 2017, 2:58:22 PM6/30/17
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American does get the irony of your question.
The Welsh Windbag
Jun 30, 2017, 6:16:21 PM6/30/17
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On Friday, 30 June 2017 19:58:22 UTC+1, Joy wrote:
>
> I've heard it said that Americans don't get irony. However, this
> American does get the irony of your question.
I'm with the Brit who wrote "I was surprised to find that the Americans can do irony. They just don't feel the need to overdose on it and its derivatives, sarcasm and sneering."
>
> I've heard it said that Americans don't get irony. However, this
> American does get the irony of your question.
I think he may have a point.
Joy
Jun 30, 2017, 6:48:36 PM6/30/17
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mixed nuts
Jun 30, 2017, 11:15:53 PM6/30/17
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France at the invitation of Emmanuel Macron. There will be fireworks
and lots of red, white and blue in his honor. It's even possible, in
the tradition established by Arthur Fiedler, conductor of the Boston
pops, at the suggestion of fireworks producer and patron David Mugar in
1974, that a rendition of that great American patriotic song, the 1812
overture, will be performed (with cannons and bells) - same as in
America where Trump is the very best president you could imagine!
--
Grizzly H.
Prairie Dove
Jul 1, 2017, 6:51:05 AM7/1/17
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Mon Dieu! My apologies in advance to the people of France. Our president is a classless fool. Who is he going to shove out of the way this time so he can puff out his chest and be front and center for the photo shoot?
You know what will be in play here for Trump? Not international relations, not our longstanding partnership with NATO allies, not our cultural ties, etc. Trump is all showbiz and concerned with appearances - once said he wanted his cabinet to look as if they came from central casting. So he will be focused on how much younger and better looking and more popular Macron is ... this will determine how he acts on an international stage. Plus there was that handshake a few weeks ago .... maybe it wasn't emasculating enough and he wants another white-knuckled go? Macron didn't let him "win" last time ...this time they just might go to the mat.
Macron is a diplomat. Trump is a jerk who won't know how to take advantage of this opportunity to strengthen ties with France ...unless they write a pretty speech for his Teleprompter.
BTW, we have a drinking game here ... a shot for every time he finds a way to compliment himself in any speech or interview ... and he always does.
Trump isn't interested in history and probably has little idea of the symbolism in this Bastille Day invitation. When they parade him through Paris I hope the French line up real-friendly-like, without signs, then throw stale croissants at him, let him see what the rest of the world really thinks of him.
Or do as the English threatened, turn around and flash their bums. Oh what I'd give to see that.
I'm going to pop lots of popcorn ...
Janet
Jul 1, 2017, 7:44:58 AM7/1/17
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In article <a705a334-3971-4745...@googlegroups.com>,
prairied...@aol.com says...
> Subject: Re: Great Britain breathes a sigh of relief
> From: Prairie Dove <prairied...@aol.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus
Janet.
>
prairied...@aol.com says...
> Subject: Re: Great Britain breathes a sigh of relief
> From: Prairie Dove <prairied...@aol.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.sixtyplus
>
> On Friday, June 30, 2017 at 10:15:53 PM UTC-5, mixed nuts wrote:
> > [quoted text muted]
> On Friday, June 30, 2017 at 10:15:53 PM UTC-5, mixed nuts wrote:
> > overture, will be performed (with cannons and bells) - same as in
> > America where Trump is the very best president you could imagine!
> >
> > --
> > Grizzly H.
>
> ;) Has he said this will be his second trip to the Middle East in two months? Snort..
>
> Mon Dieu! My apologies in advance to the people of France. Our president is a classless fool. Who is he going to shove out of the way this time so he can puff out his chest and be front and center for the photo shoot?
>
> You know what will be in play here for Trump? Not international relations, not our longstanding partnership with NATO allies, not our cultural ties, etc. Trump is all showbiz and concerned with appearances - once said he wanted his cabinet to look as if they came from central casting. So he will be focused on how much younger and better looking and more popular Macron is ... this will determine how he acts on an international stage. Plus there was that handshake a few
weeks ago .... maybe it wasn't emasculating enough and he wants another white-knuckled
go? Macron didn't let him "win" last time ...this time they just might
go to the mat.
Mme Macron is a blonde, so Donald will probably grab her pussy
> > America where Trump is the very best president you could imagine!
> >
> > --
> > Grizzly H.
>
> ;) Has he said this will be his second trip to the Middle East in two months? Snort..
>
> Mon Dieu! My apologies in advance to the people of France. Our president is a classless fool. Who is he going to shove out of the way this time so he can puff out his chest and be front and center for the photo shoot?
>
> You know what will be in play here for Trump? Not international relations, not our longstanding partnership with NATO allies, not our cultural ties, etc. Trump is all showbiz and concerned with appearances - once said he wanted his cabinet to look as if they came from central casting. So he will be focused on how much younger and better looking and more popular Macron is ... this will determine how he acts on an international stage. Plus there was that handshake a few
weeks ago .... maybe it wasn't emasculating enough and he wants another white-knuckled
go? Macron didn't let him "win" last time ...this time they just might
go to the mat.
Janet.
>
Fran
Jul 1, 2017, 9:47:46 AM7/1/17
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On 1/07/2017 8:51 PM, Prairie Dove wrote:
> Trump is a jerk
I'm fascinated by the "Morning Joe" saga. More than ever he's looking
like he's gaga, doolal, lost the plot, barking.........
> Trump is a jerk
I'm fascinated by the "Morning Joe" saga. More than ever he's looking
like he's gaga, doolal, lost the plot, barking.........
Jean B.
Jul 8, 2017, 6:11:36 PM7/8/17
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The Welsh Windbag wrote:
> Ah, shame. The Queen has been practising her handshakes in preparation. And I was going to announce to the world what I believe "covfefe" means.
>
Oh, dear! The thought of Tramp shaking the Queen's hand in his usual
> Ah, shame. The Queen has been practising her handshakes in preparation. And I was going to announce to the world what I believe "covfefe" means.
>
fashion! Consider yourselves lucky on that and every other front if he
stays away.
Jean B.
Jul 8, 2017, 6:16:36 PM7/8/17
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he can't read, but that didn't seem to fit. I think your third theory
works better.
Jean B.
Jul 8, 2017, 6:21:47 PM7/8/17
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people would rather believe the made-up stuff and doubt the truth. And
sure, traditional media can make mistakes, but see how quickly we learn
of the errors... and the often serious consequences. OTOH, those who
spew the real fake stuff have no such checks and consequences. We are
in serious trouble here.
Jean B.
Jul 8, 2017, 6:24:18 PM7/8/17
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Therefore, most USians are as appalled, if not more appalled than, folks
from other countries. If I were a praying person, I would say "pray for
us".
Jean B.
Jul 8, 2017, 6:28:43 PM7/8/17
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happy that many states are stepping up to do what needs to be done and
was just telling someone that I didn't care if state taxes went up to
help with that.)
Jean B.
Jul 8, 2017, 6:31:08 PM7/8/17
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Fran wrote:
> Well a mad, demented or even just unstable one could kill the world.
> For eg, North Korea has changed its Constitution to make
> proclamations about being a nuclear nation. That is quite dangerous
> enough without someone as unstable and impetuous as Trump in the WH.
>
The combination of our unstable president and Kim Jong-un is extremely
> Well a mad, demented or even just unstable one could kill the world.
> For eg, North Korea has changed its Constitution to make
> proclamations about being a nuclear nation. That is quite dangerous
> enough without someone as unstable and impetuous as Trump in the WH.
>
scary.
Jean B.
Jul 8, 2017, 6:32:57 PM7/8/17
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mixed nuts wrote:
> In other ironic news, Dear POTUS will be attending Bastille Day in
> France at the invitation of Emmanuel Macron. There will be fireworks
> and lots of red, white and blue in his honor. It's even possible, in
> the tradition established by Arthur Fiedler, conductor of the Boston
> pops, at the suggestion of fireworks producer and patron David Mugar in
> 1974, that a rendition of that great American patriotic song, the 1812
> overture, will be performed (with cannons and bells) - same as in
> America where Trump is the very best president you could imagine!
>
All that red, white, and blue surely means it is all about him! No?
> In other ironic news, Dear POTUS will be attending Bastille Day in
> France at the invitation of Emmanuel Macron. There will be fireworks
> and lots of red, white and blue in his honor. It's even possible, in
> the tradition established by Arthur Fiedler, conductor of the Boston
> pops, at the suggestion of fireworks producer and patron David Mugar in
> 1974, that a rendition of that great American patriotic song, the 1812
> overture, will be performed (with cannons and bells) - same as in
> America where Trump is the very best president you could imagine!
>
(I have no trouble with irony.)
Jean B.
Jul 8, 2017, 6:34:38 PM7/8/17
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Joy
Jul 8, 2017, 6:43:21 PM7/8/17
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elected he would get us into a war. It sure looks as if it's heading
that way. Of course, it takes too, but Kim Jong-un seems to be a mirror
image of Trump.
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